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Appleby| 10.27.09 @ 7:05AM

My sainted Southern Granny would have observed, *If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.*

The Archbishop and his cohort should immediately dissociate themselves from George Soros and the brownshirts he employs -- and His Holiness the Pope should warn them to immediately divest themselves of the fleas before more of the Faithful are deceived by their association of the Catholic Church with dogs.

Diane Woomer| 10.27.09 @ 8:40PM

Thank you, I feel like I am wandering in the desert, a lost Catholic without a home. With the church giving money to acorn, to the group- catholics in alliance for the common good using the church to get obama elected it was nice to read your comment.

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 10.27.09 @ 8:39AM

Tread very carefully with going after hate speech, because the words you say today, just may be considered hate speech tomorrow.

Now the reason why the vile crap heard on Air America is not actually considered hate speech is, more than 10 people need to hear the “so-called” hate speech, for it to be considered real hate speech. Nobody even listens to Air America (or would even know how to find it on the dial), except a couple of wacky leftover Hippies. But they don’t really listen to it either, which is why they have no ratings whatsoever to speak of. And all of those Air America hosts that you named? I’ve never heard of any of them before, except for Montel (but then again, who knew he even had a job there?), so keep on talking Air America, because nobody’s listening, and nobody cares.

Also, I hope all you Air America host’s get run over by a car. Hate speech? No, it's called free speech!! Let’s Go Yankees!!

Ed Moran| 10.27.09 @ 8:44AM

The UCCB has the kind of embedded liberal administration that cheers on the Obama administration because it 'substantially' implements Catholic social doctrine of care for the poor and immigrant, augments welfare for those in need seeing so much of the current domestic policy as an extension of Mt. 25 in 'doing for the least of these'. Then come the 'troubling' unyielding federal support of abortion in the current health care bill and their ship begins to tack the other way away from the President whose ameliorating words of concilation are at dire odds with his record of allowance for the killing children in the womb. The bishops are thrown into a dither in needing to distance themselves from the ideology that has been present and obvious from the beginning.
While I deeply respect Archbishop Chaput and the distinctions he draws in regards to UCCB participation in 'So That We Might See', the good archbishop knows the fundamental inclination of the UCCB and what limits of control there are for those there who actively work to implement a liberal agenda in the Church. To drive out that demon, to quote a higher source, "what is needed is prayer and fasting".
If eternal vigilance is the price of maintaining freedom, I am appreciative of Mr. Lord's reporting. It most certainly helps to keep the 'lights on' and the 'transparency true' so we can see the fleas and avoid the dogs who have them. Kudos to Appleby.

Cris Worth| 10.27.09 @ 9:54AM

Before the catholic hierarchy criticizes folks outside the fold it needs to get its own house in order. Since time immemorial the Church has been rife with corruption, violence, arbitrary enforcement of doctrine and recently saturated with prelate pedophiles. The Church is desperate the flock has left hence the welcome mat for "undocumented" immigrants. Go Phillies!

ds80| 10.27.09 @ 12:15PM

"...it needs to get its own house in order. Since time immemorial..."

Well, duh. It's an institution comprised of fallible humans. As opposed to the wailing and gnashing of teeth by those who demand perfection in the Church, and right now, by golly, I'll place my bets on a higher authority: "The gates of hell shall not prevail against it".

Helen Donnelly| 10.27.09 @ 3:21PM

Well said!!

Lisa| 10.27.09 @ 4:41PM

ds80,
Well said! Pedophilia really has nothing to do with this subject, does it? Yes, there is corruption...Archbishop Chaput is not one of the corrupt though. He's one of the good guys...it's the USCCB that needs to go...they really aren't speaking for the Church at all.

stmichrick| 10.27.09 @ 10:11AM

It seems that the current tactic to discredit major conservative media is to try to connect them to disparate and obviously toxic, sources in documents and petitions as the ones described here.

Next we'll see the left float electronic reconstructions of right wing personalities, seen uttering the alleged verbiage, that will be just realistic enough to get them on the prime time CBS NBC ABC CNN presentations, only to have them discredited at 3 AM by same.

It's a new sick age we live in.

wayfaring stranger| 10.27.09 @ 10:17AM

The Catholics, my Western spiritual brethren, have been trying to make themselves more palpable to secular society for decades. So it's no wonder they would get involved with a project funded by the likes of George Soros.
The old adage is true: If you shake hands with the devil, you're going to get burned.

Tim| 10.27.09 @ 10:19AM

"Cross yer feet, we only brought three nails."

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 10:20AM

The BHO administration, George Soros, spun tales about the US Chamber of Commerce accepting the healthcare reform. It was a LIE. So, it is very plausible that the USCCB never accepted the Church of Christ's letter regarding hate speech and naming Rush as an example. This administration is very adept at separating people. Archbishop Chaput is a fine priest. I put a lot of credence into what he has said. Unlike some of the liberal prelates, Chaput is faithful to his calling and his church.

IXLR8| 10.27.09 @ 11:20AM

The scales are falling from the eyes of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. First, they have stopped fnding ACORN(!), and now this. Maybe, the Bishops will now see clearly that they are being played for suckers by the dupicitous left.

Thomas| 10.27.09 @ 11:21AM

Religious organizations should be very careful how they deal with public broadcasts. Just as religious expression, particularly Christian expression, is under constant attack for using publicly owned or controlled land for displays and demonstrations; they could find themselves banned from the "public" airwaves just as easily. By stipulating that the Federal Government [i.e. the public] has dominion over radio waves broadcast in US airspace, these groups are placing the ownership rights for those airways in the hands of the Federal Government. This could very likely mean that no broadcasts of church services, religious discussions or debates or even religious talk shows could be broadcast legally over those "public airwaves".

Well meaning imbeciles will be the death of this country yet.

Marty Cohn| 10.27.09 @ 11:29AM

I wonder if Archbishop Chaput would think it's OK to support Planned Parenthood, but just not its abortion clinics.

ds80| 10.27.09 @ 12:19PM

Read Archbishop Chaput's writings before making inane statements like the above.

Clearly not "innane"| 10.27.09 @ 12:57PM

ds80, clearly Marty was making the totally-appropriate comparison between Archbishop Chaput saying, essentially "We support 'So We May See' just not this particular petition" and the ethically-equivalent "We support Planned Parenthood just not this particular abortion mill." (Note I said ETHICALLY-equivalent, not MORALLY equivalent, given the difference in CONTENT between those two positions. But the same underlying logic or ethic of "ok with the general, just not the specific.")

So Now You May See the point of Marty's comment.

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 3:50PM

Clearly you are not familiar with Archbishop Chaput. Obviously grossly uninformed by the Bishop's stand on abortion and Planned Parenthood. Google Archbishop Chaput and find out. He is a man of great integrity and stands for life from conception to natural death. He does not support Planned Parenthood.

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 3:50PM

Clearly you are not familiar with Archbishop Chaput. Obviously grossly uninformed by the Bishop's stand on abortion and Planned Parenthood. Google Archbishop Chaput and find out. He is a man of great integrity and stands for life from conception to natural death. He does not support Planned Parenthood.

catholic mom| 10.27.09 @ 11:33AM

I am a faithful Catholic and the USCCB has disappointed me time and time again. Good thing that the Church has the Sacraments, otherwise I would be at another church! I am remaining in the Church despite the USCCB....my apologies to the faithful Bishops.

bishopofharahan| 10.27.09 @ 12:25PM

catholic mom, the USCCB does the same for me. Left wing all the way. As for staying in the church, we have the true body and blood at my Lutheran church every Sunday!

That would be Missouri Synod?| 10.27.09 @ 1:00PM

bishopof, surely you're not referring to the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA), the left-wing body that I was finally forced to flee in the last month for the Missouri Synod. Should have made the move 30 years ago but after each whacky lurch to the left I'd think "Well they're surely not going to go further than THAT..." but of course they have, non-stop, for decades. (In the predecessor bodies as well.)

TMC| 10.28.09 @ 9:39AM

We ran from the ELCA last month also to the Missouri Synod - we did some investigating and found out that the ELCA is nothing but a left wing loon group and now the left wing loons have hijacked the religion about the same way the terrorists have hijacked islam - very sad to see nutcases using religion to justify their evil behavior.

Appleby| 10.29.09 @ 7:34AM

I fled from the ELCA to the Anglican/Episcopal Church in the mid 1990s when my ELCA church hired an East German associate pastor who spent his time in the pulpit railing against capitalism. Eventually he had the desired effect of driving all the capitalists out of the congregation, whereupon the rest of them, including the senior pastor, discovered what the rest of us know: Socialists Have No Money. The church went bankrupt and closed its doors.

Of course then the Episcopal church became The Gay Way, and I had to leave them too. The Catholic Church does not change with the winds of the time but wishful thinking sometimes drives some of them to seek a corporate solution where Jesus mandated an individual solution. Now I am among the faithful urging them to get back to Matthew 25, in which the INDIVIDUAL is tasked with all the duties this gang of socialists try to bind on the backs of their neighbours...lest he or she end up in Hades. The Church has erred in trying to force unwilling groups of people to do what Christ mandated us personally to take into our individual hands.

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 3:51PM

Oh no you don't have the true presence.

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 4:03PM

Hang in there Catholic Mom. The Church is filled with sinners, puffed up Bishops. I'm one of the sinners. I would not change to another religion for anything. I have the truth. So do you. Hang on to Jesus and stay.

Tex Geoas| 10.27.09 @ 11:42AM

Sounds like the bishop was for it before he was against it.

ds80| 10.27.09 @ 12:17PM

Sounds like you're not a Catholic, and ill-informed, out to score points with wry humor.

Dave LeBlanc| 10.27.09 @ 10:36PM

I thought Tex was kind of funny, ds80. Lighten up a bit.

I have heard Bishop Chauput speak on abortion many times. He is as uncompromising as possible and still be with in the law.

The Bishops are very left, abortion not withstanding, and an embarrassment to most of the laity. They mean well, but they are dumb, no way around it. Their support for illegal aliens getting Obamacare being the latest example.

Too many supported Obama and looked the other way when it came to his radical acceptance of abortion. The tortuous dogma they used to justify their support is the sort than caused Protestantism.

No doubt about it, they are an embarrassment to their faith.

Don L| 10.27.09 @ 11:55AM

I love my Church, and this Bishop, but it needs badly to purge its "official" bishop's group of its politically left members. Someone in that group oversaw the paying of million of dollars, intended by the laity for the poor, to ACORN, hence electing Obama the most anti-life candidate in history. Where is the outrage, or the investigation? Out of 365 bishops, only 79 had sufficient faith to publically call the Notre Dame scandal what it was. The Church, (in the words of Pope Paul; the smoke of Satan has entered the tabernacle) has had its secular affair with Marxism before, with the spectacle of Liberation Theology instigating Jesuits to pick up uzis for the poor in Latin America - until JPII stopped that game.
Some of the laity is losing faith in its sheperds, and needs clarity from within. It needs to return to its role of salvation of souls, and charity. Politics from within, merely tend to corrupt it.
Repentence and amendment are essential.

Son Of Sam| 10.27.09 @ 11:55AM

Hmmmmm, I guess my copy of the Bible must be defective..it says that Jesus that came for all people, but it should really read that he came to censor talk radio and Fox news.

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Nick| 10.27.09 @ 2:05PM

I never heard of "So We Might See" until today, so I can't comment on the specifics or the goals of this loose confederation.

But for those who would use the membership of the USCCB as a cudgel to bash the Roman Catholic Church, let me "enlighten" you with some facts.

The USCCB is comprised of the bishops of the U.S. And like too many of the dioceses in the country, they let lay "Catholics" or nuns do the grunt work of their committees and departments. This is where the liberalism comes from. Most of these nuns and lay faithful are in fact activists trying to change the Church from within.

Archbishop Chaput is a faithful Catholic bishop who takes his office as teacher of the Faith and shepherd of his flock seriously. I trust what he says.

Also, the Catholic Church is not a political organization, despite what some might think. The bishops of the USCCB will not care if Soros is involved if they think "So We Might See" can do some good works, i.e. do the work of the Gospel.

The USCCB is always looking to "dialog", which gets it in trouble sometimes. Mostly, due to the lay activists, who sometimes leak subcommittee draft reports to the media, who "report" that it came from USCCB.

So to compare this situation to "supporting" PlannedParenthood but not the abortions they execute, isn't even apples and oranges. It is like comparing apples and ... well ... abortions.

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 3:55PM

Thanks, Nick! I'm getting steamed up with these ignorant replies re the Catholic Church and the "Bishops." Bless you and Archbishop Chaput (whom I admire greatly for being a true, faithful priest).

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 9:14PM

Clasiana,

Thank you so much!

And may God Bless You and Your Family.

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 9:45PM

I'm sorry, Clusiana, my eyes must be going!

I don't get peoples' names wrong very often. At least not by mistake.

bill carson| 10.27.09 @ 3:28PM

Nick above appears to be correct. Archbishop Chaput is no liberal. He was one of a very, very few bishops with the courage to denounce Notre Dame worshiping Obama. The fact is, about 80% of all U.S. bishops are liberals. I'd guess 80% of that 80% actually voted for Obama. Just because you're a bishops doesn't mean you'll not lie to yourself about what Obama really represents.

Today is the first time I've heard about the USCCB giving money to ACORN. Anybody have any links to confirm this?

Clusiana| 10.27.09 @ 3:57PM

Raymond Arroyo of EWTN, "The World Over" news program listed the organizations to which the lib bishops supported. ACORN and others which probably came under the ACORN umbrella. Try contacting Raymond and he may give you the info you need.

Lisa| 10.27.09 @ 4:50PM

Bill,
This link might help you with the ACORN and other scandalous "charities" the USCCB has been supporting through another rogue organization.

http://bellarmineveritasminist.....igns/cchd/

John II| 10.27.09 @ 5:07PM

Eighty percent. That's an interesting figure. It was approximately that same portion of European bishops who were taken with the screwball Albigensian heresy in the 13th century, and it's doubtful that the Reformation of the 16th century would have gone very far without the motive force of widespread episcopal scandal.

Saintly witnesses and pastors like Archbishop Chaput have always been in the minority since the first century of the Christian era. The short Letter of Jude, penultimate entry in the New Testament, says it all for all subsequent centuries of the Church's existence. It's no proof, exactly, but it's always seemed to me to be a strong inkling of the Church's divine character: a merely human institution stewarded by so many weaklings and jackasses could not possibly have survived for so long. The whole thing would have imploded before the era of Constantine.

Gordon Jewettt| 10.27.09 @ 3:53PM

Thank you Mr. Lord for your diligent work. After reading your first column about this, I called our diocesan media liaison and inquired about the USCCB's apparent support for the FCC inquiry. The good deacon checked with all his contacts and was unable to find any support for what Rev. Guess had implied. Peace and God bless.

DaveS| 10.27.09 @ 5:00PM

Benedict XVI himself said that the national bishops' conferences (like the USCCB) have the same weight as a fly's wing. Individual bishops have said the same thing. The alignment with 'So We Might See' is puzzling and needless; that group may need the USCCB to realize some gravitas while a single bishop needs no such assistance. Chaput has grown a pair bigger than many bishops, but the denial of involvement with this partner over this issue is just another case of being in the wrong theater of operations.

Robert| 10.27.09 @ 5:14PM

Did the USCCB actually participate in this action?

Without any doubt in my mind.

The bishops' immigration agenda (the "Pastoral Plan") is a very cleverly-designed plan in which the Vatican systematically chisels away at American sovereignty. The pretense is spiritual, but the underlying impetus is cultural and political.

I am never surprised by things like this. I have spent years watching the Vatican, and in particular the USCCB (which, make no mistake, has a direct line to Rome through which it takes its orders), and am fully convinced that this organization is a serious threat to the future of our country.

Check out my blog for regular updates on such matters: www.thevaticanlobby.blogspot.com

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 9:24PM

Perhaps you would like to outlaw all of us Roman Catholics, like Queen Elizabeth did?

Take off the tinfoil hat and try reading some history and what the Catholic Church ACTUALLY teaches, not what you THINK it teaches.

John in Toronto| 10.28.09 @ 9:31PM

Oh no! He's on to us!

Darn that Jack Chick, letting out all our secrets!

Big Leo| 10.27.09 @ 6:33PM

As a strongly conservative United Methodist who has been actively fighting the leftward drift of our church for over forty years, I am proud to say that even our liberals find the USCCB group to be unacceptable. ""United Methodist Communications is not a sponsor of this coalition at this point. Our name was inadvertently added to the sponsorship list in error. It has now been removed." Sounds like the liberal coalition in the mainline denominations is falling apart.

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 7:12PM

Big Leo,

Read the article again. This is not an USCCB group.

marjer| 10.27.09 @ 6:36PM

Just wondering why the USCCB belong to an organization that is partially funded by George Soros? Doesn.t make sense to me.

Frank Natoli| 10.27.09 @ 7:18PM

I apologize for writing this anecdote more than once, but when NYC John Cardinal O'Connor died in 2000, the NY Times ran an enormous full page obit on him. Paraphrasing, while O'Connor was hardly a conservative by national political standards, he was consistently the only vote at U.S. bishops' confererences against one left wing policy resolution after another. I've attended five different Roman Catholic parishes in northern NJ, and every single one produced left wing "social justice" themes from the pulpit. I'm at the point where I have two choices: (1) don't pay any attention to what I hear from the pulpit, or (2) don't attend Mass. At the moment, I'm choosing the former. It's a pathetic situation.

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 9:32PM

Mr. Natoli,

I implore you, find an orthodox parish. Use the internet. There has to be one in your area. They are the ones that are growing.

Remember, we go to Mass to receive the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Even if the priest is not very magisterial, as long as he follows the rubrics of the Mass, you are receiving Christ.

But it is better to belong to a parish with priests that actually believe what they are preaching.

Sheryl| 10.28.09 @ 2:53PM

Frank--you have another (infinitely better) option--seek out and attend a traditional Latin Mass. You would not have to listen to any of this left-wing nonsense.

Appleby| 10.29.09 @ 7:43AM

I concur heartily -- our parish recently switched the Latin Mass to 11:30 a.m. instead of 9:30 a.m. (having discovered that our unionized subway system does not start running on Sunday until 9:00 a.m.) and the growth in attendance has been exponential. A very interesting proof of its orthodoxy is the blooming throughout the congregation of chapel veils.

Steve-O| 10.27.09 @ 8:23PM

American Catholic bishops are, by and large, a yella-bellied, smarmy lot. Most are completely uninspiring. They are more a bunch of tired social workers than souls on fire for G-d. If they had half a clue at all, they would immediately disassociate from that twisted little "So We Might Se" coven.

DaveS| 10.27.09 @ 8:52PM

Your second sentence is wrong: ALL are uninspiring. But they are not a group to look towards for inspiration. It's sad they don't realize how their politicized stances will reflect in higher costs and taxes for all and how, under tithing, many will be forced and just in halving their Sunday envelope amounts.

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 9:40PM

Steve-O,

Luckily, our salvation does not depend on how INSPIRING particular bishops are. At one point in Church history, most bishops were followers of Arianism, and Holy Mother Church survived. Just as Christ said it would.

Through the prayers of the faithful, the make-up the bishops worldwide is changing for the better, thanks to the past two Popes. It might not be happening on our timeline, but it is happening. And the Church will be better for it.

JCS| 10.27.09 @ 10:10PM

I've have been reading your replies & I believe you are absolutely correct in everything that you have written in this article's blog.

I will also add that things are looking up for the Catholic Church: increase in diocesean seminarians who are orthodox, increase in vocations among the orthodox religious orders, even the Dominicans & Jesuits are training young orthodox priests, increase in vocations for monastic life, religion school books for the youth are more than just fluff, unity w/the High Church Anglicans, & many reverions & conversions that are taking place every yr around the world. As 1 priest recently told me, that within 15 yrs most of the liberal priests will be retired. Nothing but positive news for the future.

Nick| 10.27.09 @ 10:17PM

JCS,

Amen! I agree with everything you wrote.

Remember Pope John Paul II's constant refrain: "Be Not Afraid."

God Bless you, JCS. And God Bless the Catholic Church.

shoey| 10.27.09 @ 9:03PM

why doesn't the American Catholic Church just admit what they are thinking... Jesus was the orginal Socialist.

collectivism of any stripe is against God's gift of freewill.
and it's not just the Catholics, it's all of them slowly allowing the liberals to chip away a tiny piece at a time everything that is good and true.
i don't go to these "New" churches, i shun them, loathe, they offer me all the hope and faith of a 12 step meeting.
useless, pointless, ultimately disasterous for our culture.

ATLmedia| 10.27.09 @ 11:19PM

"Jesus was the original Socialist'
Exactly!
How a person can follow our 'conservative'
leaders AND follow Jesus is the definition of cognitive dissonance. Compasion for the poor?
Love thy neighbor? Socialist!!!
Voters influenced by Palin Platitudes know,
hang yer "Christian"principles & go for the money
while the gettin's good.

shoey| 10.28.09 @ 12:57AM

i was using sarcasm to make the point that the Catholic Church has sold it's soul and is no longer a servant of God, but a servant of man.
Jesus was no socialist, Jesus spoke to the individual, his call was to the heart of each of us individually, Jesus cared not about the Romans or the Temple priests. Jesus was a lover of freedom because only when ppl are free to choose do their choices matter.

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Connie| 10.28.09 @ 12:17PM

Thank you for clarifying (I think) the position of the Catholic Bishops on this "hate" speech of certain radio personalities and FOX NEWS. I was very disturbed when the Catholic Bishops didn't come out more forcefully on the abortion issue in the Presidental election!! As a Minnesota (and Arizona) resident I am deeply disturbed that I have to admit that I have a dirty minded Senator (Al Franklin) to represent Minnesota. But not me!! How can he represent me???? But that's democracy - even if it has to be stolen - like the votes were to get him elected.

Dave| 10.28.09 @ 5:16PM

Left-wing churches are anything but "Christian." They have forsaken the Gospel long ago and will suffer the same fate as all non-believers.

Richard Baker| 10.28.09 @ 7:52PM

Eventually, the Holy Father will have to deal with priests who have forgotten their vows and reason for being. The Archbishop is learning that working with apostates is like getting in the mud with a pig. You get dirty and the pig loves it.

Tony in Central PA| 10.28.09 @ 9:18PM

Chaput has shown himself to be a straight shooter over the years and I'd be inclined to take his word. Unfortunately, there are probably quite a few bishops who would align themselves with some kind of a George Soros effort. The Church doesn't have any business being liberal or conservative or political.

Richard| 11.2.09 @ 12:16PM

Find a US bishop that enforces Canon 915, and you will find an authentic, orthodox bishop. The Holy See has provided guidance and instruction on the proper and correct interpretation of this Canon, yet very few in the USCCB enforce it. One would think so clear a Canon would provide little room for equivocating and obfuscation by the USCCB members.
Chaput does not enforce Canon 915. Talk is cheap; actions speak louder than words...

Please have a look at the text of Canon 915 on the Vatican's website for yourself to see if you find it unclear or ambiguous. If you do, you may want to research the topic and the view of the Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura?

Richard
Ecclesia Militans
Credo in sanctam ecclesiam catholicam

Nick| 11.3.09 @ 12:44PM

How do you know he doesn't enforce Canon 915?

Who has he given the Holy Eucharist to that shouldn't have received? Names please.

Richard| 11.4.09 @ 10:07AM

Nick, let's start with Colorado Governor Bill Ritter whose actions in office are in clear opposition to the Magisterium. Chaput had warned Ritter for over 2 years not to present himself for Holy Communion, however Ritter continued to present himself and receive the Host. Chaput's interpretation of Canon 915 is that it is the responsibility of the communicant to refrain from receiving which is in stark contrast to the Church's teaching. When a public pro-abortion, pro-sodomite marriage or "obstinate in manifest grave sin" person comes to Holy Communion of his/her own volition and the Minister of the Eucharist gives the Host to such a person, the bishop is doing evil (CIC, n.1755) because he has not instructed his Ministers to deny. It is the bishop and his ministers who are entrusted with preventing sacrilege and defilement of the Body of Our Lord.

When the Democrats were meeting in Colorado, how many other pr0-abortion, pro-contraception, pro-sodomite marriage "catholic" politicians do you think received Holy Communion in the Denver Archdiocese vs. how many were denied the Host as required by Canon 915 as instructed by the Holy See? Tell us, Nick, who has Chaput and his Ministers withheld the Host from in accordance with Canon 915? Names please.

A little searching on your own could have found this, if you cared to investigate for yourself instead of blind devotion to a bishop who is mostly talk, and no action.

At last count, only 15 U.S. Archbishops and Bishops have publicly stated that they would deny Holy Communion according to Canon 915 as instructed by the Holy See.

Our Holy Father Benedict XVI in concert with his predecessors has reaffirmed with a warning of automatic "tolerati" excommunication - or Latae sentetiae - for Catholic persons who support, legislate or promote abortion (c.1329). Benedict said the teaching is, in fact, the law of the Church. Based on this, Kennedy, Pelosi, Kerry, Ritter, and many others are in actuality excommunicated latae sententiae. As any Catholic versed in the teaching of the Church would know, one who is excommunicated is separated from the body of the Church and is denied the Sacraments. Was Pelosi denied Holy Communion in Chaput's Archdiocese?

Nick| 11.14.09 @ 2:41PM

Richard,

I know this is late, but why are you jumping on my back?

I was not editorializing with my question, I sincerely wanted to know. Yes, I could have investigated, but if you were wrong, my search would have been in vain, would it not? It was easier to ask for specifics from the person who made the accusation.

I agree with you totally on denying the Eucharist to pro-death politians. Thanks for the information. I will now verify what you wrote.

Doris Chmielenski| 11.5.09 @ 3:50PM

Great explanation, Richard. Archbp. Chaput is one of the biggest disappointments in the Church. HIs pro-abortion Governor receives Holy Communion in a sacrilegious way each Sunday, just steps from the Archbp's chancery office. Why is Chaput afraid of pro-abortion Gov. Ritter? What does Ritter's power do to Chaput that he fear him so?

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