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Shut Up, America!
So Obama and Pelosi explain to Americans concerned about a federal takeover of health care.
Last week, at a Democrat party fundraiser in McLean, Virginia, President Barack Obama gave his answer to the thousands of Americans showing up at town halls and protests all over America questioning his proposed federal takeover of health care. Obama said,
But I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to just get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking.
Obama here was talking about Republicans and conservatives who he holds responsible for the economic downturn. He doesn’t want to hear from them whether about health care reform or economic policy more generally. He just wants them to shut up and get out of the way of his glorious left wing revolution.
While campaigning last year, Obama was singing a different tune. Then he promised voters he was going to bring a new era of bipartisanship to Washington. Now he tells us he doesn’t want to hear from Republicans who created the mess. And he will not change one component of any of his initiatives to garner any Republican votes in Congress. Many American voters were misled by this deceptive campaign rhetoric.
Obama takes no responsibility for his time served in the U.S. Senate since 2004. He wants us to forget that while serving there he opposed every Bush budget because it did not spend enough. He wants us to forget that as a Senator he joined with Barney Frank to successfully oppose the Bush reforms to clean up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which did so much to cause the financial crisis. In the Congress, he joined with Frank and other ultraliberals who, along with long-time Obama ally ACORN, had long pushed Fannie, Freddie, and the nation’s banks to break down traditional mortgage lending standards, and grant mortgages to so many who ultimately failed to pay them back.
Now Obama is sending messages from his White House and Democrat party to unions and other left-wing allies to “punch back twice as hard” at Americans at town halls questioning his Big Government takeover of health care. And answering this call, union thugs from SEIU, one of the most left-wing unions in America, have already shown up at these events and started beating up on Americans raising questions there.
At a town hall in St. Louis sponsored by Democrat Congressman Russ Carnahan, SEIU thugs beat up a black conservative selling political pins and bumper stickers, sending him to the emergency room. Six were arrested. In Tampa, SEIU plants packed half the hall, leaving hundreds of local constituents outside in the hallway. Union thugs then flooded the hallway, ripping one constituent’s shirt off and pushing him up against a wall, leaving him with a cut in his chest. In Hillsborough County, Florida, a Democrat party leader slapped a constituent in the face.
In calling out these thugs, and saying he doesn’t want to hear from Americans who disagree with him, Barack Obama is not acting or sounding presidential. FDR and John Kennedy and Bill Clinton never told any portion of the American people he didn’t want to hear from them. Rather, Obama is sounding and acting more like his at least sometime ally, Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez. How dangerously close are we getting now to that kind of authoritarianism, with the Great Leader now calling out his brown shirts? What’s next? Seizing radio stations that air dissenting views?
The Wall Street Journal’s William McGurn accurately characterized Barack Obama yesterday as “a my way or the highway president who impugns the character and motives of dissenters.” McGurn added:
In his Saturday radio address, the president characterized opponents as ‘defenders of the status quo’ trafficking in ‘misleading information’ and ‘outlandish rumors.’ His communications officer for health care, Linda Douglass, tells CNN that those who show video clips of Mr. Obama speaking are spreading ‘disinformation.’….Now at one level the intimation that anyone who questions the President must be a liar probably reflects frustration with the legislative outlook for health care reform. Nevertheless, it is highly unpresidential.
Indeed, whatever happened to the President who is not interested in ideology, only what works? That has turned out to be yet another misleading Obama talking point.
Pelosi to Dissenters: You’re Nazis
But it is not just President Obama. The Democrats now running Washington are left-wing extremists across the board, as exemplified first and foremost by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi from San Francisco. She charged that Americans questioning the Democrat government health care takeover are manufactured fronts for corporate opponents of the plan. But she never provided one sliver of evidence for this slur, nor was she asked for any evidence by the compliant, party-controlled press. Those involved in this debate know well that the big corporate interests, from insurance companies to doctors to hospitals to drug companies, have already sold out to the Obama Democrats on this issue, foolishly in my opinion for empty promises that are already being ignored.
But this slur wasn’t enough for Pelosi. She went on to suggest that dissenting Americans exercising their constitutional rights to freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly to petition their government for redress of grievances, are Nazis carrying swastikas to these town halls and protests. Again, she provided no evidence for this slander, and was not asked for any.
Then Monday, in an op-ed in USA Today, she called these dissenting Americans who disagree with her government health care takeover “un-American” (emphasis in original). From that perch in a nationally distributed newspaper, she claimed that these dissenters were “drowning out opposing views.” The national media broadcast throughout the land every word she and President Obama say on the subject. Yet, somehow, their views are being drowned out by senior citizens and concerned parents of disabled children who are lucky to ever see a microphone.
About the Author
Peter Ferrara is Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy at the Heartland Institute, General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and Senior Policy Advisor on Entitlements and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation. He served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.
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Pingback| 8.12.09 @ 7:35AM
Great debate comeback from Commander in Chief: Shut Up, America! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Dean| 8.12.09 @ 8:13AM
"But I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to just get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. "--President Obama
I agree with the President. Unfortunately, Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Biden don't agree, because they keep talking.
Robert Rosencrans| 8.12.09 @ 8:20AM
The manifestation of Obama and his failed policies are the direct result of what occurs when a personality cult is formed.
Here was another.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Stalins Russia.htm
Stalin developed what became known as a "personality cult". Artists painted pictures glorifying Stalin and he dominated many pictures. It was not unusual for Stalin to be in a white suit so that he stood out from the crowd. He gained the nickname "Uncle Joe" which was an attempt to develop an image of a kind, homely man who was the ‘father’ of all Russians. This was all called "Social Realism". Those who wrote poems and novels had to do the same - write about Stalin in a manner which gloried him. Some artists and authors were so depressed by all this that they committed suicide rather than do what the state ordered them to do. Many others tried to leave the country.
Education was strictly controlled by the state. In 1932, a rigid programme of discipline and education was introduced. Exams, banned under Lenin, were reintroduced. The way subjects were taught was laid down by the government - especially History where Stalin’s part in the 1917 Revolution and his relationship with Lenin was overplayed. Books were strictly censored by the state and Stalin ordered the writing of a new book called "A short history of the USSR" which had to be used in schools.
Outside of school, children were expected to join youth organisations such as the Octobrists for 8 to 10 year olds and the Pioneers for the 10 to 16 year olds. From 19 to 23 you were expected to join the Komsomol. Children were taught how to be a good socialist/communist and an emphasis was put on outdoor activities and clean living.
Louis Jenkins| 8.12.09 @ 8:26AM
If it's slapping, punching, and shirt ripping, then they shall get their just return. A town hall meeting is exactly what it is. Everyone should have an opportunity to speak their mind, not "shut up." Is a town meeting an open forum or a closed topic session that allows only picked questions to be asked? Who are the Nazis? The SEIU and ACORN are using Nazi tactics, whereas the common person just wants to be heard for a change. Our esteemed leaders seem incapable of LISTENING, and as usual, defer, demonize, and lambast those who oppose them. These brightest and best leaders are hypocrites, and the truth is not in them.
Calybos| 8.12.09 @ 8:53AM
The loons of the far right can talk, rave, and scream all they like; that's their right.
But nobody's going to LISTEN until they have something intelligent to offer. And given their past performance (a complete failure) and their utter lack of any productive ideas, that doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon.
You blew it, wingnuts. Rave all you want, but nobody's listening.
Dan| 8.12.09 @ 9:11AM
That seems to be the standard liberal message.
"Those displeased are stupid: if they were smarter , they would agree with us".
I think when the 2010 elections come around we'll see how displeased people really are.
Louis Jenkins| 8.12.09 @ 9:19AM
"loons...a complete failure...lack of any productive ideas...wing nuts" ipsofacto statements that justify my previous post. "...but nobody is going to listen...." How true! The ordinary citizen, who gets up every morning, puts his pants on, and goes to work, is fed up with deafness, insane solutions, while being garotted by the Federal and State, drooling, inept, crossed eyed, prehensiled tailed, baboon like, slime feeding, tort lawyer, Spawn of Satan, governments. Name calling is only that, it does not change what is.
Otis, my man!| 8.12.09 @ 9:51AM
Way to rally the troops Calybos! Keep up the good work!
DougN| 8.12.09 @ 10:15AM
Well, I dunno, Calybos. SOMEBODY (really, a lot of somebodies) must be listening. Have you seen the poll numbers on health "reform" lately? Hmmmm?
Jack Frost| 8.12.09 @ 10:23AM
"I want them to just get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking. "
Um, Mr. Obama, this is no longer President Bush's economy. IT'S YOUR ECONOMY, the mess you need to clean up is your own.
Tony in Central PA| 8.12.09 @ 10:40AM
The doublethink surrounding this bill is staggering. Obama tells us there are " 47 million " uninsured now in the US and that his plan will cover all. There will also be no rationing. 47 million people is about the population of the UK. To take care of the additional 47 million under a nationalized health plan, we would need something close to the health care apparatus of the UK. So add up all of the doctors, specialists, physician assistants, nurses, physical therapists, administrative support personnel, hospitals, clinics, rehab facilites, home nursing agencies etc. etc and you get some idea of what resources we need.
Or we can impose Draconian rationing based on an individual's economic potential and political usefulness. You do the math.
JIM WHITTAKER, Hemet, CA| 8.12.09 @ 10:51AM
Note to self: Buy more ammo!
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terryfrank.net » On the Radio for Wednesday links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Mad Monica| 8.12.09 @ 11:42AM
While I'm not a grandmother (I hope to be someday) I do have Parkinson's Disease, along with fibromyalgia and a deteriorating spine and I find it absolutely frightening to think I might not even get to SEE my grandchildren should my situation deteriorate further. It took five years to be diagnosed because current science requires ruling out all other problems before a diagnosis for Parkinson's, MS and other neurological disorders can be applied. Under the president's "reform" plans, I highly doubt such an effort would have been made. Instead, though I'm relatively young, I'm sure I'd have been handed a hand full of pills and told I could release myself when the pain got too bad.
Who do these people think they are? What gives these a*&&%^% the right to decide who is productive enough to be given the medical care they need to stay alive?? I don't trust these guys for anything and I sure as hell don't trust them to decide what is right for my health. After all, isn't this president the one who voted against medical treatment for babies who survived attempted abortions?
The hypocrisy of this government is sickening. This is a group of people who feel abortions should be available at any time to anyone who feels they need one, yet screams and hollers when rapists, murderers, etc. are given the death penalty. I'll tell you one thing. I am NOT going without a fight. The first time ANYONE tries to counsel me about "end of life" issues just might find themselves facing one pi$$ed off cripple with a big-a$$ cane.
I've been saying it since November and I'll say it again: My fellow Americans, how could you be so frigging stupid? You elected a Congress who claimed to be able to tame the "culture of corruption" which has turned out to be more corrupt than just about any other Congress in history. Then, you idiots put your faith in a first-term Senator who has done nothing in his entire adult life other than run for office and/or act as a rabble rouser while buddying up to domestic terrorists and Chicago thugs. Good work, folks. You got what you wanted and now the rest of us get to suffer. Way to freakin' go.
Bruce| 8.12.09 @ 12:01PM
Mad Monica:
You're a gem!! Stick by your guns, live long, and prosper!
Richard Baker| 8.12.09 @ 12:12PM
Mad Monica:
I personally never thought that, in history, I'd see an administration more corrupt than Grants' or Hardings'. The Kenyan proves that record ARE made to be broken.
Dean Vander Linde| 8.12.09 @ 12:15PM
To paraphrase a passage from Herman Wouk's novel The Caine Mutiny, "The Constitution is a master plan designed by geniuses for execution by idiots." The Obama administration and the 111th Congress are eminently qualified for their positions.
crookedwren| 8.12.09 @ 12:15PM
". . .union thugs disturbed the family of the father and his stricken son at their home."
That's what Hitler's group used to do, even in the early days, when they hadn't gained power yet.
I could hardly have imagined such a thing in this dear country of mine.
But the media has been so silent about Obama's past associates. It's not just Bill Ayres & Co. It's not just ACORN's SDS-founder Rathke. It's his mentors from his youth. His parents meeting while learning Russian during the height of the Cold War.
And then there are the extreme Socialists in Congress, some members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
True Marxists usually hide their true allegiances. But how many in our government have been raised to admire "Uncle Joe" Stalin or Mao or Fidel or Che Guavara?
Still, even after the debacle of this past November, I didn't think I'd be seeing Union Thugs going after a concerned, impassioned citizen and his son. Not by August. I thought it'd take longer than that.
And Mad Monica -- I, too, will be at them with a cane in one hand and a copy of the Constitution in the other.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com| 8.12.09 @ 1:00PM
A Fable for the obuma Age
Fable 10 - The Thug and the Vendor:
(based on Aesop’s The Wolf and the Lamb)
Once upon a time a Thug was seated at a bar drinking a pissy tasting cheap beer, when, looking up, what should he see but a street Vendor just beginning to enjoy a much tastier example of the brewing arts and a juicy looking half pound cheeseburger with fries which he had paid for with his own hard earned money. "There's my supper," thought the Thug, "if only I can find some excuse to seize it." Then he called out to the Vendor, "How dare you pee in my beer?"
"No, friend," said the Vendor; "if your beer was urinated in, I could not have done it, for I am in a full body cast from a beating I suffered the other night at the hands of your friends."
"Well, then," said the Thug, "why did you call me bad names provoking my friends to kick your butt?"
"That cannot be," said the Vendor; "Ten minutes before you even arrived, your leader ordered that some of my Gadsden flags be stuffed down my throat so that my voice could not be heard."
"I don't care," snarled the Thug; "if it was not you it was one of your teabagging friends;" and with that he rushed upon the Vendor and beat him to death. But before dying the Vendor gasped out ."Any excuse will serve a tyrant."
A few months later, all the charges against the now convicted Thug simply vanished into thin air.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Don’t Tread on Me!!
T Kaplan| 8.12.09 @ 3:49PM
"Does not want to hear from Republicans!" Isn't that tantamount to taxation without representation? Let the revolution begin!
the-gunslinger (EOTIS) | 8.12.09 @ 4:56PM
Hail Mad Monica!
I stand with you—as an Enemy of the Imperial State!
Lee| 8.12.09 @ 5:40PM
Like many,I neer thought I would live to see the mad swing to socialism,,, Unfortunately we are in a place in history where we have more people taking from the system than are paying for it... These are the ones who put the "Obama-nation" in power
Rich| 8.12.09 @ 5:55PM
Does it not seem that the people who are currently in power are projecting their own intentions on the American people who are objection to their "the State is god" approach?
I find that these politicians have no other way to look at the world except to think that everyone else is as empty as they are. Their only principle seems to be "might makes right" and to ensure that they retain (and increase) their power. Of course they believe that everyone else would do the same if allowed to be in their position. They CANNOT actually believe that someone would do "the right thing" even if it proved a detriment to themselves.
Gives one cause to be concerned, since it is impossible to reason with someone who already "believes" something to be true and are willing to lie to support their beliefs.
Rothschild & Rockefeller SATAN| 8.12.09 @ 7:08PM
THE ANTI-CHRIST
In our study of prophecy we lay much stress on the "Second Corning of Christ," forgetting that there are two other comings of "individuals" that are just as momentous as Christ's coming. The first is that of the Antichrist, and the other is that of Satan.
In both the Old and New Testament we are told of a "Mysterious and Terrible Personage" that shall be revealed in the "Last Times." He is described under different names and aliases, and it is only by a careful examination and comparison of these names, and the Person they describe that we see that they refer to one and the same individual. These names are-
In the Old Testament.
Ezekiel 28
"Prince of Tyrus" and "King of Tyrus"
Daniel 7,8,9,11
"The Little Horn.", "A King of Fierce Countenance.", "The Prince that Shall Come.", "The Wilful King."
In the New Testament.
2 Thessalonians 2,
"The Man of Sin.", "Son of Perdition.", "That Wicked."
1 John 2:18,
"Antichrist"
Revelation 13
"The Beast."
Jesus also made a prophetic reference to him. John 5: 43 when the Jews rejected Jesus is their Messiah, when the Antichrist comes they will accept him.
43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not; if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
His Personality.
The Apostolic Church believed that Antichrist was to be a "person," the embodiment of human blasphemy and wickedness, but toward the close of the Twelfth Century many began to look upon the Pope as Antichrist, and this view has been largely advocated by Protestant commentators. The arguments in favour of this view are ingenious and plausible, but they are hard to reconcile with the Word of God. This view makes Antichrist a "System" rather than a Person, and would see in the "Papal System" the Antichrist. But this is disproved by the Word of God. The Papal System although it plays a major part in bringing the Anti-Christ to power, is NOT the Anti-Christ.
The Apostle John says in 1 John 2:22 and 1 John 4:3;
22. Who is a liar, but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is Antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
3. Every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in THE FLESH (His Deity) is not of God; and this is that spirit of Antichrist.
Judaism has denied that "Jesus is the Christ," and Unitarianism that He has "come in the flesh," but the Papacy never. The Church of Rome has always confessed "I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord."
All Protestant commentators insist that the "Papal System" is described in Revelation 17: 4, 5.
4. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5. And upon her forehead was a name written, mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.
This is undoubtedly true, but this "Woman," the "Mother of Harlots," is represented as riding upon a "Beast," universally admitted to be the Antichrist. If the "Beast" is the Antichrist, the "Woman" cannot be, and that they are separate and do not signify the same thing is clear.
Again the Antichrist, as the "Man of Sin" is described in Daniel 11:36,37 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 as follows;
36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
However false and impious the claims of the Papacy, it always recognises its subordination to God, and the Pope's highest claim is that he is the "Vicar of Christ." Following on we must also look at Revelation 13:3-4.
3. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
The Papal System worships the Virgin and the Saints, but it is not true that it worships the Devil. Now look at Revelation 14:9-11.
5. If any man worship the Beast and His Image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall; drink of the wine of the Wrath of God.....and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone;......and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever…and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the Beast and His Image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
If the Papal System is the Antichrist, it follows from the above that all its worshippers, instead of being saved, are doomed to eternal torment. Again, the Lord, who destroys Antichrist at His Coming, comes to Jerusalem, not to Rome, the seat of the Papal System.
While there are many things in the history of the Church of Rome, and in the conduct of her Popes that foreshadow the Antichrist, yet it is clear from the preceding scriptures that the Papal System is not the Antichrist, and that these scriptures can only be fulfilled in the person of some Individual yet to appear.
The Antichrist is not a Rival or Counterfeit Christ, he is an Opposing Christ. This is clearly seen when we compare him with Christ in a series of Contrasts.
Christ came from Above. John 6: 38
Antichrist comes from the earth. Revelation 13: 1.
Christ came in His Father's name. John 5: 43
Antichrist comes in his own name. John 5: 43.
Christ Humbled Himself. Phil. 2: 8
Antichrist Exalts himself. 2 Thessalonians 2: 4.
Christ Despised. Isaiah 53: 3; Luke 23: 18
Antichrist Admired. Revelation 13: 3, 4.
Christ Exalted. Philippians 2: 9
Antichrist cast Down to Hell. Isaiah 14: 14, 15; Rev. 19: 20.
Christ to do His Father's will. John 6: 38
Antichrist to do his Own will. Daniel 11: 36.
Christ came to save. Luke 19: 10
Antichrist comes to Destroy. Daniel 8: 24.
Christ is the Good Shepherd. John 10: 4-15
Antichrist is the Idol (evil) Shepherd. Zechariah 11: 16,17.
Christ is the "True Vine." John 15:1
Antichrist is the "Vine of the Earth." Revelation 14:18.
Christ is the "Truth." John 14: 6
Antichrist is the "Lie." 2 Thessalonians 2:11.
Christ is the "Holy One." Mark 1: 24
Antichrist is the "Wicked One." 2 Thessalonians 2: 8, (R.V. says Lawless)
Christ is the "Man of Sorrows." Isaiah 53: 3
Antichrist is the "Man of Sin." 2 Thessalonians 2: 3.
Christ is the "Son of God." Luke 1: 35
Antichrist is the "Son of Perdition." 2 Thessalonians 2: 3.
Christ, "The Mystery of Godliness," is God manifest in the flesh. 1 Timothy 3: 16
Antichrist, "The Mystery of Iniquity," will be Satan manifest in the flesh. 2 Thessalonians 2:7.
jordan 6 rings | 8.12.09 @ 8:29PM
I agree with the President. Unfortunately, Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Biden don't agree, because they keep talking.
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From: "Roy Roger"
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:03:16 GMT
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Subject: OVERVIEW OF THE JEWISH-OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
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OVERVIEW OF THE JEWISH-OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
THERE IS NOTHING "Federal" about the Federal Reserve Bank. In other words,
the Federal Reserve is not "federal" and it does not have any "reserves."
The Jewish Bankers, who are masters of deception, own the Federal Reserve
Bank, print money with interest but without any backing, and would like to
keep their "federal" banking cartel a secret.
But the House of Rothschild which owns 57% of the stock of the
privately-held Federal Reserve Bank, is alive and well in North America.
Recently, Reuters News Agency published an article announcing two new
appointees of the Rothschilds' banking interests in North America @
Rothschild Bank Names New North America Heads. And be certain that the
Rothschilds have charged their appointees to act as liaisons with their
fellow Jewish bankers who own the Federal Reserve Bank.
It was Jacob Rothschild II who in a letter to his US agents in 1863 with
regard to establishing a Central Bank in America said: "The few who
understand the system will either be so interested from its profits or so
dependant on its favors that there will be no opposition from that class.
The other class will simply have no comprehension or concern about American
monetary policy."
Here is an historical overview of the makings of the Jewish-owned Federal
Reserve Bank:
* 1791-1811: Rothschilds' First Bank of the United States
* 1816-1836: Rothschilds' Second Bank of the United States
* 1837-1862: Free Banking Era -no formal Central Bank through the efforts of
President Andrew Jackson
* 1862-1913: System of National Banks through the efforts of President
Andrew Jackson
* 1914-Current: Federal Reserve Act effects a consortium of 7 privately held
Jewish banks called the Federal Reserve Bank. The largest share holders of
the bank are the Rothschild's of London holding 57% of the stock which is
not available for public trading.
THE JEW Paul Warburg (1868-1932), came to the United States from Germany in
1902, buying into the partnership of the Jewish owned bank Kuhn, Loeb and
Co. with the financial backing of the Rothschilds.
Paul Warburg was a man with a mission, sent here by the Alfred Rothschild to
lobby for the passing of a Central Banking Law in Congress. On January 6,
1907, the New York Times published an article by Warburg, called "Defects
and Needs of Our Banking System."
In 1908, Sen. Nelson W. Aldrich, (father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller Jr),
and a Rothschild agent, proposed a bill recommending a Central Bank. A
member of Congress for 40 years, Aldrich was the most powerful man in
Congress and was the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
Without going into the labyrinth of the contrivances of the Jewish Bankers
and the Jewish propaganda machine, on October 25, 1914, the formal
establishment of the Federal Reserve System was announced by Congress with
Paul Warburg and the Rothschild ally, J.P. Morgan, at its head
Justin Roether | 8.12.09 @ 9:17PM
Thanks again for your excellent reporting.
Osamas Pajamas| 8.12.09 @ 10:28PM
Luckily for Nazi Pelosi, her name fits perfectly with her political philosophy.
Osamas Pajamas| 8.12.09 @ 10:31PM
Oh. By the way. Somebody throw this bloodsucking Jew-hater out of the blog. He's here only to pollute the TAS blogosphere so that later he can point to his own remarks and say that the TAS readership is obviously anti-Semitic.
American Hero| 8.12.09 @ 11:22PM
Nazi Pelosi? OH RLY? You're not really a jew, are you? No matter how much you complain and whine and cry. You sound like a jew, but you don't smell like one. You smell like old money pissing its pants.
NoCrud | 8.13.09 @ 12:21AM
Actually, I welcome comments from Obama and Pelosi and their kind. The media is being silent about dissent but when Obama & Co. comment on it, then the media will report it. However, those like us know and understand the pros and cons of the Obamaroids and realize that the media is not telling what is important. Therefore, the reports of Obama, Pelosi and others causes many people listening and watching the media to wonder what is really going on.
If the Obamaroids would just keep their mouths shut about the agony that Conservatives, Republicans and, indeed, true Americans are causing them, then the media would continue to merely intentionally fail to report it and a high percentage of Americans would continue to be in the dark. However, because the Obamaroids hope and expect the media to pass on all that they say, then their agony will begin to be apparent to more and more people.
The Leftists/Socialist wannabees want to be seen and heard. When they drive home that they are being attacked, there is an element in Americans that want to know the "evil" that the people in Obama's camp, along with the help of the media, are complaining about. Many people love the blood, guts and gore and want to know more. They are fascinated by it. However, in this case, it exposes them to more of the truth and they will see that what Obama, Pelosi and others in their camp are saying just ain't so! This, then, works into the hands of Conservatives. The media is forced to expose Obama & Co. and after a couple of months of this, people will become even more fatigued with Obama's saviourhood and eventually tire of it. Just like the daily obit from Iraq that the media hammered away until it meant less and less as a new item, then people will lose even more faith in the media as a source of news. But, keep in mind that Obama & Co. love it when people are not watching them -- this then allows them to slip stuff through the process and surprise us on Monday morning. With this, then, we see it as a double-edged sword but it is one we can better live with.
Marc Jeric| 8.13.09 @ 12:56AM
Everybody forgets that the commies (aka Democrats) took control of the Congress in the elections of 2006. Eactly 11 months after that the present recession started - in December 2007. Frank, Dobbs, Pelosi, Reid and other criminals resisted the weak Republican efforts to stop giving mortgages to "underserved minorities" (about 2 million mortgages with no hope of being paid ever). Financial crisis ensued, with Fannie and Freddie going bankrupt and then nationalized; this was followed by the auto industry being nationalized and turned over to the unions which had destroyed it. Community organizations at work - ACORN brownshirts and SEUI thugs; in Lenin's time these community organizations were known as soviets.
shaun| 8.13.09 @ 8:24PM
Oh no - the communists are back. Don't they know America is an Oligarchy?
Pingback| 8.13.09 @ 8:55PM
BHO to USA: Shut Up! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Kadius| 8.13.09 @ 10:35PM
When I come I will destroy those who defiled my name, stole from those I blessed and wrote false accustations of the ones who held their candle high.
My voice will be heard and all who take my name will know my voice as the healer of their lands, those who wait for that terrible day and hear my voice in eternal judgement will know there path was a path a distruction that leads to death everlasting.
GOD
Tailgunner| 8.15.09 @ 12:15AM
Forget conservatives. Obama could get this thing passed without a single GOP vote.
The outrage and uproar are coming from individual DEMOCRAT citizens...mainly the elderly who fell for the regular Dem BS about Republicans wanting to starve old people and rob them of their Social Security.
Now they realize Obama and his czars and his crony front groups are leading them to the slaughter and they're fighting back.
Those who Obama, Pelosi, the MSM and innumerable Democrat Congressmen are smearing as 'nazis', a 'mob', 'terrorists', and 'un-American' are their OWN Democratic constituents.
Pingback| 8.15.09 @ 3:17PM
President Obama is being “picked on”? « NewsReal Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
clothing shopping online | 8.16.09 @ 3:18AM
shut up...
i from china, cant see this isseu..
Pingback| 8.17.09 @ 8:05AM
Moments of Conception | America Watches Obama links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Tenn Slim| 8.28.09 @ 8:56AM
ALL
My answer to "But I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to just get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking. "
Sent and continue to send, to all Congressional staffers. Questions the OBNA will not answer, but will be posed in 2010 elections.
bt
Senator and Congressional Staffers
Please R and D these questions for your boss. He will be asked these at election time, 2010.
Thanks for your interest and support.
End
Day 4
August 27, 2009
You need to start asking questions:
- Why do we need a civilian force? (Obama Campaign Speech refers)
- Who is posing a threat to us? (that we need such a force)
- Who will this "force" be made up of? (Constitutional question)
- Who is the real enemy? (that this “Force” will oppose)
- Does the president know of a coming event? If not, who builds an army against an unrecognized enemy?
- Why won't the media get off their butts and look into these radicals in the White House? And into this civilian army?
August 26, 2009
Day 3
- Why does the FCC have a diversity "czar"?
- Who is Mark Lloyd and how does he plan to "balance" the airwaves?
- Will he bring back the Fairness Doctrine or worse?
- Cass Sunstein once said he wants to balance the Internet; is that next?
- Will broadcasters who leave the airwaves be allowed to go to satellite or Internet without government regulation?
- Is there any place (that has a mass audience) where the government won’t regulate free speech?
- Why does it seem every member of the Obama advisory team hates capitalism, unless those companies (like G.E.) are in bed with the administration?
If WH Czar Advisor for FCC Lloyd has his way, stations who don't comply to the governments definition of the "public interest" will have to pay a massive fine — that helps support public broadcasting:
- What will be the definition of "public interest"?
- Who defines "public interest"?
- Why should it be balanced? Because it's public airwaves?
Day 2:
Glenn Beck: Reasonable questions for unreasonable times
- Who is "surrounding" the President in the White House?
- Do any of the President's advisers have criminal records?
- Are the President's advisers working to better the country or their own ideals?
- Who are the anti-capitalists in Washington?
- What roles do they have in crafting bills?
- What was "STORM"? What happened to the founders, where are they now?
- What qualifications must one have to be a Presidential adviser?
- What is the difference between a community organizer and a community activist?
- Do the czars have power?
- Should a communist have the ear of the President of the United States?
- What role did the Apollo Alliance play in crafting bills?
- Does the President know the co-founder of the Weather Underground is a board member of the Apollo Alliance?
- How many people in the administration are connected to the movement for a democratic society?
- What role does George Soros play... CONSTITUTIONALLY?
- Our unfunded liability for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is close to $100 trillion. Is there any way to pay for these programs without bankrupting America?
- We are in so much debt, why spend more borrowed money on cap-and-trade and healthcare programs before we stop the flow of red-ink?
- The stimulus package funneled billions of dollars to ACORN. How does giving billions of dollars to ACORN stimulate the economy?
- If it was so important for congress to pass the stimulus bill before they even had time to read it why has only a fraction of the stimulus money been spent 6 months later?
- Bush said he had to abandon free market principles in order to save them, how exactly does that work?
- Why won’t members of Congress read the bills before they vote on them?
- Why are citizens mocked and laughed at when they ask their congressman to read the bills before they vote on them?
- Was the cash-for-clunkers program meant to save the earth or the economy? Did it accomplish either?
- How did Van Jones, a self-proclaimed communist become a special advisor to the president?
- Did President Obama know of Van Jones’ radical political beliefs when he named him special advisor?
- The Apollo Alliance claimed credit for writing the stimulus bill—why was this group allowed to write any portion of this bill?
- If politicians aren’t writing the bills and aren’t reading the bills, do they have any idea what these 1000 page plus bills actually impose on the American people?
- If the ‘public option’ health care plan is so good why won’t politicians agree to have that as their plan?
- If town hall meetings are intended for the politicians to learn what’s on our mind—why do they spend so much time talking instead of listening?
- Politicians are refusing to attend town hall meetings complaining, without evidence, that they are scripted. Does that mean we shouldn’t come out and vote for you since every campaign stop, baby kiss and speech you give is scripted?
- Why would you want to overwhelm the system?
- Is using the economic crises to rush legislation through congress what Rahm Emanuel meant when he talked about "not letting a crises go to waste"?
- What are the czars paid? What is the budget for their staffs/offices?
End
Questions emanate from “Glenn Beck Week of 24 - 30 August 2009.”
end
Trackback| 9.1.09 @ 3:07PM
Lost Psalm: Obama is my Shepherd, on Snapped Shot, links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Tommy Phame | 9.29.09 @ 8:59PM
I like President Obama's view on health care. I hope he gets it passed. The sooner the better.