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CARACAS POLITICS
Re: Philip Klein’s Friend
or Foil?:
It’s beginning to look a lot like Venezuela around here. Rat out your fellow citizens who disagree with the Obamamessiah, so he can add them to his Enemies List. Send paid union thugs to intimidate citizen protests at town hall meetings. Scapegoat doctors, insurance companies, drug companies, hospitals, and any other useful parts of the current healthcare system (even though many of the relevant associations have thrown in with the Obamamessiah to try to cut the best deal possible, and regardless of member sentiment). Legislative leaders engage in loose talk to characterize concerned citizens as Nazis, racists, rightwing extremists, and all the other bogeymen of the statist imagination. All this because the loony left is unwilling to engage in a debate over its healthcare goals, instead relying on fraudulent talking points and the politics of personal destruction.
The best part of all this is that AARP has finally made it clear to its membership that it is a statist front group first, a membership organization second. The footage I saw on Fox News with the youthful Ms. PR talking down to concerned members, and finally petulantly closing the meeting and walking away — just priceless! They actually wanted to express grievances, the nerve of them!
If we are ready and willing to protect our country from joining the socialist scrap heap of nations, if we are ready and willing to prevent the Obamamessiah from turning America into a third world banana republic, it’s time for the tea party patriots to step up.
Time to turn in AARP memberships and publicly burn the AARP membership cards.
Time to hold “Hall of Shame” meetings to identify the Congressmen unwilling to meet in person with constituents because of fear of what they might have to hear.
Time to run primary challenges against “get along and go along” Republicans. If a Crist is nominated in preference to a Rubio, we are not paying attention to the real world.
Time to document every thuggish anti-free speech initiative of the Obamamessiah and his loony left crew. Time for a patriotic media person to put this all together into a documentary to be promoted by conservative alternative media and distributed to all interested persons for nominal fees. By the way, the Enemies List is nothing new for BO. Here in Missouri, during the election, some local Democrat sheriffs and others involved in law enforcement warned people to be careful about what they were saying. There were clear attempts to intimidate anti-BO’ers from expressing opposition to the chosen one.
Time to organize a fall march on Washington to express our disgust with tax and spending, the debasement of our currency, and the nationalization of American enterprise.
Time really is growing short.
— Stephen Zierak
Kansas City, Missouri
I looked long and hard for the logic in Mr. Klein’s “Friend or Foil?” but could find none. He apparently sees some sort of irony or contradiction in Obama’s original efforts to obtain the cooperation of health industry powers, and current claims that these industry powers are at least partly behind supposedly grass roots anger at the town hall meetings. Why is it ironic or contradictory?
Only an idiot would attempt a major overhaul of health care without trying to get the cooperation of the major players in the field. And only an idiot would think that seeking the cooperation somehow precludes one from criticizing the tactics of these major players when they renege on their public statements of support for reform and resume their longtime efforts to sabotage reform.
Even worse, Mr. Klein also seems to imply that we — Democrats, and people like me who are not Democrats but strongly favor reform of our idiotic health care system — are claiming that these town hall protests are being manufactured solely by the major health industry players. That is not true. Some of the disruptive efforts may be prompted and/or financed by the health care industry, but my understanding is that most of the funding and organizing is coming from the usual suspects: extremists from the anti-government, anti-tax folks, probably the same ones funding the equally hokey tea parties.
Phony is phony, Mr. Klein, and propaganda is propaganda. The
debate over something as crucial as what to do with a health care
system that is broken beyond repair should never come down to
this kind of paid thuggery and deliberate fear mongering (kill
your grandma, indeed!) which increases the paranoia of the
ignorant and threatens the very structures that we count on to
keep us free enough to have debates.
— Lee Russ
If anyone thinks Barack Obama is their friend, that delusion shows lack of awareness of the Illinois community organizer’s credo that power and self-interest are all that matter.
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frost| 8.10.09 @ 8:18AM
Kinda saw-it-coming, you might say? Fifteen, twenty years ago I returned AARP's propaganda with an important looking letter saying, "if you send me any more of this garbage I'll sue you for harassment."
It worked. They've not darkened my mailbox since...
David Gonzalez| 8.10.09 @ 10:11AM
Mr. Daub---
I'm not a psychologist, but I once read that humans laugh when they're surprised (which is why the funniest jokes are the ones with which the comic blind-sides the audience). The diatribe was hilarious precisely because it wasn't expected, and the female rental agent's observation was even funnier for the same reason. I suspect that, were you to consume some Kingsford briquets, in very little time you'd produce some high-quality blue-white diamonds!
wanda keith | 8.10.09 @ 11:42AM
I am scared. I am very scared! B. Hussein is out of control. As for the front group AARP, I returned my card after they supported B. Hussein in the last election. I have repeatedly told them to stop sending me their trash and I now put it in envelopes with no return address and send it all back to them. I am not sure if they get it but I feel better.
Die Fledermaus| 8.10.09 @ 5:50PM
Lee Russ is just another left wing socialist nut job.
IMKessel| 8.10.09 @ 6:43PM
Mr. Zierak,
Well thought out and written.
Welcome to the revolution.
FIGHTINGFORFREEDOM| 8.10.09 @ 6:47PM
Obama Hussein / the Demograt dictator is following the footstep of Chavez/Castro. Wake up America! Stand up and fight for the freedom before it's too late. This administration is practicing communist law in our country and suppressing the voice of the American people!
Occam's Razor| 8.10.09 @ 7:38PM
Mr. Nixon may or may not have been an antisemite in his private views. But in his public one, he authorized the airlift that saved Israel in 1973. Some credit is due for that.
IMKessel| 8.10.09 @ 9:27PM
Nixon's motivation, like all human motivation, is like a diamond, multi-faceted and observable only from certain angles at a given moment. Or to use Heisenberg Principle of Uncertainty: all (motivational) factors cannot be observed at once. Nixon assisted (saved is too strong a verb) Israel, but he had a myriad of reasons. Israel owed him no thanks.
Plenty of evidence is recorded that Nixon was an anti-Semite. It is not a question of fact, though it may be one of perception: “You know, there's none so blind as they that won't see.
[1738 Swift Polite Conversation III. 191]”
Richard Baker| 8.10.09 @ 11:22PM
Kessel:
Tell you what. If Nixon hadn't taken M-60 tanks out of US stocks and had them C-5'd to Israel in 1973 Israel would have been hammered. Does an Anti-semite do something like that? Ask Golda Meir and the Israelis of the day if they were thankful.
IMKessel| 8.11.09 @ 12:51AM
Mr. Baker,
If Nixon had not sent military assistance, the outcome might well have been different, but his sending assistance does not make him pro-Israeli or negate his personal feelings of anti-Semitism. Nixon understood that without the support of the Evangelical Christian and other pro-Israeli constituents, his presidency would have become highly ineffective. Abandoning Israel would have been (rightly) seen as morally repugnant. Further, the Soviets were giving support to Arab and Muslim countries. The defeat of Israel would have been a defeat of America by proxy (similar to conflict in Viet Nam). Nixon well understood the real world and the world of realpolitik. His personal opinions and dislikes took a backseat to his politics.
Please feel free to do “Google” President Nixon + anti-Semitic Remarks. (Here is one result: http://www.bing.com/search?q=Nixon+++Anti-Semitism&src=IE-SearchBox)
Ivan| 8.13.09 @ 10:54PM
Like Chavez, no way, it's imposible to make a copy. His style to rule Venezuela is unique, more likely to Castro's style.
Richard Baker| 8.14.09 @ 4:17PM
Kessel:
As usual, you liberals make the assumption that you could read Nixon's mind.
Lee Russ| 8.19.09 @ 9:23PM
Well, I guess "we" have really been put in our place. First we get the incredibly well reasoned "Lee Russ is just another left wing socialist nut job." Then we get the impeccably argued "As usual, you liberals make the assumption that you could read Nixon's mind."
Brilliant. Unassailable.