The Rev. Katherine Ragsdale will soon become the first female president of Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Openly lesbian, the outgoing chief of a liberal think tank that monitored the Religious Right, and best known for her abortion rights advocacy through the Washington-based Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice (RCRC), Ragsdale maybe the perfect icon for untrammeled liberal Episcopalianism.
But a rather vigorous two-year-old abortion sermon by Ragsdale, assertive even by her standards, has overshadowed her recent appointment. "Abortion is a blessing and our work is not done!" she repeatedly exclaimed at a rally in defense of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, in 2007. Those "blessing" situations, according to Ragsdale, are when a woman is pregnant due to "violence," when the fetus has "anomalies," when the woman hasn't education or a "sustainable job," and even when a woman has a "loving, supportive, respectful relationship" with "every option open to her" but knows the child will compromise "one's education, life's work, or ability to put to use God's gifts." So basically, abortion, including even partial-birth abortion as Ragsdale admits, is a "blessing" just about any time it is desired.
In her Birmingham peroration, Ragsdale chastised medical personnel who declined to abort, comparing them to pacifists who join the military or animal rights activists who conduct medical research. They are in the wrong profession! She concluded her sermon: "I want to thank all of you who protect this blessing [of abortion] -- who do this work every day: the health care providers, doctors, nurses, technicians, receptionists, who put your lives on the line to care for others (you are heroes -- in my eyes, you are saints); the escorts and the activists; the lobbyists and the clinic defenders; all of you. You're engaged in holy work."
Although two years old, Ragsdale's Birmingham outburst, recorded on her blog and on the website of the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL) has made a splash in the blogosphere. Last month, she felt compelled to explain the "abortion is blessing" sermon on her own blog. She was rallying "defenders" of the Birmingham abortion clinic that had earlier been "shot up." And her "speech worked well for that audience and that occasion," she insisted. "It spoke to those who had put their comfort and safety on the line to care for others."
Ragsdale also insisted she never meant to suggest that "decisions about abortion are never morally complex and difficult." She was celebrating that "when modern science and moral theology and social supports allow her to embrace her sexuality and manage her generative power and responsibility -- that is a blessing." She compared her "abortion is a blessing" analogy to heart surgery: "messy, uncomfortable, scary," but "blessing" all the same. She recognized abortion is more "complex" for persons who believe a fertilized egg is a fully human, which she described as a "fairly new idea in history." But for persons who see the embryo or fetus as merely as a "potential" person, abortion is "less" or "differently complex."
"We get to choose the lens, the story we tell," Ragsdale concluded her explanation. "We can tell the story of our pain and the ways we've been broken. Or we can tell the story of God's blessings and redemption seen in our lives. Both are present -- real and true; but which is the focus -- the point?"
Whatever Ragsdale's point, Episcopal Divinity School is not deterred by her "abortion is blessing" controversy. The school's trustees elected her unanimously in March and she will take office in July. "Katherine's gifts, skills, and experience are an excellent match with the criteria established by the Search Committee, both in terms of the current challenges and opportunities at EDS, and the personal attributes we are looking for in a new leader," the trustees chair announced.
On abortion, Ragsdale is a true believer. In 2004, she testified before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee against the Child Custody Protection Act, which would have prohibited transporting minors across state lines for abortion without parental consent. She boasted, as she has in past congressional testimony, of chauffeuring a 15-year-old girl to get an abortion and vowed to do so again, no matter the law, because the "vows" of her ordination supposedly require it.
However provocative Ragdale's pronouncements often are, she is in demeanor calm and polished and seemingly disciplined. Perhaps she can exploit her uproar to help Episcopal Divinity School reverse its declining fortunes. With fewer than 100 students, the seminary last year sold off 7 of the 20 buildings on its bucolic Cambridge campus to Leslie University for over $33 million to "secure the financial future of the school," according to its then president. The seminary's location reeks of the Episcopal Church's once ascendant role in America. It's just a few blocks from Cambridge Common, Harvard University, the Henry Wadsworth Longfellow House (which also served George Washington as a war-time headquarters), and 250-year-old Christ Episcopal Church, which billeted soldiers during the Revolution, and from which Teddy Roosevelt was expelled as a Sunday school teacher while a Harvard student because he was not Episcopalian.
Today's purportedly more inclusive Episcopal church insists it would never expel anyone. Ragsdale generously admits that pro-lifers are entitled to their views, unless of course they are medical personnel, in which case they evidently should resign or compromise with conscience. Would she allow a pro-life professor to serve at Episcopal Divinity School? Teddy Roosevelt, who belonged to the Dutch Reformed Church, once called contraception "race suicide." His views on abortion presumably were equally adamant. Likely he would not fare any better among today's Episcopalians in Cambridge than he did 130 years ago.
Appleby| 5.8.09 @ 7:10AM
I am a Catholic who has turned her back on the Episcopal Church after many years, because I am sick and tired of their constant drumbeat of homosexuality which is, I am sure, the main reason blasphemies like this woman are rising to dominate the church -- and why, by the way, such as she are so adamantly against procreation under any circumstances.
God is not mocked, Madam. He sees everything you are doing and He knows why you are doing it. Perhaps He is using you, the clanging cymbal and blaring horn, as an instrument to drive what is left of the Episcopal church right into the ground.
Red Phillips| 5.8.09 @ 7:18AM
The Episcopal Church has become a caricature of itself. This is really very sad. And leading a divinity school? Do they bother teaching the Bible there?
Paul D| 5.8.09 @ 7:49AM
I was always wondering just how low a church could go. I guess, now I know.
Although I suppose it could get worse. Episcopalians have yet to incorporate human sacrifice into their multicultural religious practices. But then again, at the rate we're circling the drain, that might not be far off.
protect natural law| 5.8.09 @ 7:52AM
With whatever banner the sexually dysfuntional want to cloak themselves, it is still never going to change the fact that their behavior is dysfunctional. Live with it, and leave the rest of us alone to lead a naturally logical reproductive
existence.
Son Of Sam| 5.8.09 @ 8:18AM
I know that truly nothing about this is the least bit funny. This is especially so considering that we have the TelePrompter in Chief on record as believing that babies who survive abortions should be allowed to die, while terrorist bomb throwers should be allowed to live.
That much being said, I do find it truly hilarious that the women who are most vehemently in favor of abortion are those who don't have sex with men in the first place. Who exactly are they "protecting" from the evil threat of being pregnant? If its not themselves and others like them, then exactly who the hell are they to presume to speak for others? Back off, lesbian pro-abort witches: this is a matter that's none of your damned business.
Reproduction: its a hetero thing,
you wouldn't understand
stay strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam
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Crusader| 5.8.09 @ 8:21AM
My first question is: Why is a lesbian worried about abortion?
Next question: WTH is wrong with the Episcopalian church?????
stephanie| 5.8.09 @ 9:19AM
And to think I have been contemplating joining the Episcopalian church. I am saddened because I did so want to become a part of this parish in my county.
Well, onward and upward in my search for a church to lite in.
Tanya Wersinger| 5.8.09 @ 9:20AM
The sad thing is this woman(?) is going to hell if she doesn't wake up,( pray for her); and she's dragging others along with her. The good news is that the Episcopal Divinity School is dwindling. That is a sure sign of hope. The episcopal church is a house divided against itself, it will not stand.
JWB| 5.8.09 @ 9:22AM
How twisted are her thoughts. I thought that God said ALL children are a blessing, clearly she heard wrong.... she is proclaiming that it is a blessing to DESTROY what God has created in His likeness and image? Sure sounds like she is listening to the Devil and not God!
Prester John| 5.8.09 @ 9:24AM
Rev Ragsdale is gonna have some 'splainin to do when she meets her Lord.
Viki| 5.8.09 @ 9:30AM
I know some wonderful Episcopal priests, but have met others who no longer believe in Christ or speak of infanticide (not just abortion) as just another quasi-acceptable "anthropological practice."
There's so much darkness in our country today (I speak as a resident of Maine, where the vitriol daily heaped on Christianity because of the gay marriage issue is astounding). We can only remember to love and follow Christ's example.
SLG| 5.8.09 @ 9:43AM
A quote that makes some sense?
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
So said Mohandas Gandhi
Musterion| 5.8.09 @ 10:04AM
Is it any wonder that many Episcopal parishes are choosing to organize (Sorry if I get the terminology wrong) under the authority of the African Anglican churches?
Dustoff| 5.8.09 @ 10:30AM
When the left thinks killing the young means 'nothing', who is next?
Appleby| 5.8.09 @ 10:53AM
Wait until she sees what the Muslims have in store for her.
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The “Blessing” of Abortion « The Truth in Black and Right links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Richard Baker| 5.8.09 @ 12:28PM
Isn't it remarkable that the leading advocates of abortion are usually the well-to-do bored White women who are looking for "meaning" in their tired and hum-drum lives? Their motto should be "Kill them babies"! Many other murderous types in history were calm and disciplined in manner in public. This is a recommendation for this silly woman?
John| 5.8.09 @ 12:41PM
It's funny how with the torture debate, the Left portrays itself as the moral superior, politically virtuous----fighting for justice against "hate-mongering" conservatives. They fret that KSM received too much water up the nose because he plotted 9-11.
Yet here we have a lesbian "reverend", appraently belonging to firecely partisan leftist organization, advocating death on innocents, as a means of compensating for a crappy job or fetal "anomalies".
Be wary of leftist liberals preaching the sanctity and of "healthcare workers". What tripe.
Do we need further proof that we are a nation in decline?
Been There| 5.8.09 @ 12:55PM
"We get to choose the lens, the story we tell," Ragsdale concluded her explanation. "We can tell the story of our pain and the ways we've been broken. Or we can tell the story of God's blessings and redemption seen in our lives. Both are present -- real and true; but which is the focus -- the point?"
Here's a real and true newsflash for The Rev. (I use the term loosely) Ragsdale:
The blessing is not this horrible act. The blessing from God is that you can ask for forgiveness after you've been brainwashed into having one, and He will -- As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
Rita| 5.8.09 @ 1:11PM
God have mercy on us. This is what seems to be driving our country. We need to take it back and asap. How God must cry over what we are doing to our young. They are being taught that to be into ones self is all that matters. It started many many years ago and just keeps sliding. Pray Pray Pray.........He is our only hope.
stephanie| 5.8.09 @ 1:17PM
Appleby,
Your first post was so on the mark. Thank you.
A Christian| 5.8.09 @ 1:21PM
I'm trying not to judge. But I'm still disgusted.
tbird1| 5.8.09 @ 2:31PM
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Exactly. Ragsdale is a nitwit.
Therese| 5.8.09 @ 2:52PM
It seems to be a blessing to everyone according to her, but what about the child torn apart in the womb limb by limb; or burned and drowned with saline injections; or partially birthed, stuck in the back of the head with surgical scissors and its brains sucked out with a suction device with no anesthetic? That is the way abortions are done. You kind look it up online. It doen't sound like a blessing to me if one is the child. Yes, God will forgive, but you have to repent and change your mind and behavior first.
Ed| 5.8.09 @ 3:04PM
This is perverse. These people are turning abortion into a dark sacrament, which is a way of making sure that left-wingers have to stay pro-abortion, or suffer the consequences.
Jenny| 5.8.09 @ 3:40PM
I wouldn't want to be this sick chickie on judgment day.
Vin| 5.8.09 @ 5:13PM
How ironic that there are people who cannot consider a person prior to birth valuable. We all come into the world the same way. To throw abortion into God's face seems to be pretty blasphemous to me. But I guess some of us make our own decisions as to what God is all about regardless of what is written in the bible. Oh well, so be it. I still respect life in all it's stages. Sorry.
John G| 5.8.09 @ 5:24PM
Madame Ragsdale will experience trouble long before judgment day.
She will be unable to explain herself to the 50+million who were done in before they had a chance to exercise their own "choice" in the most basic matter of life.
Mike from Maryland| 5.8.09 @ 5:37PM
The satanists have a ritual they call the "Black Mass," which is a parody and perversion of the Catholic Mass, usually involving profane and/or pornographic substitutions for the holy ritual. I see Ragsdale and her denomination as an organizational "Black Mass."
But note that the crazy school she heads has "fewer than 100 students." This is now just a crank group. The Episcopal Church though is a tragic and damnable farce.
SRPaquette| 5.8.09 @ 5:43PM
She and others are the reason I no longer attend church. This woman of faith has her god, Satan. And she will pull in as many simple minded Bible illiterates church goers as possible. God will not be mocked, and His real church will throw these swine to the abyss where they so deservingly belong, and we the true Church will not have to look upon downcast angels any longer. Better sooner than later.
ds80| 5.8.09 @ 5:56PM
Son of Sam: **excellent** bumper sticker material: "Reproduction: its a hetero thing. You wouldn't understand"
That'll go right next to my other right-wing extremist bumper stickers:
"In God We Trust"
"Don't Tread On Me"
Greg | 5.8.09 @ 6:08PM
This just goes to show us what happens when the Episcopal Church or any other denomination or church departs from the beliefs and teachings of the Bible. The Word of God says that human life begins at conception and that homosexuality is a SIN. Ragsdale is wrong on both accounts and will understand that at the Great White Throne Judgement unless she repents(changes her mind).
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SRPaquette| 5.8.09 @ 6:28PM
It is bad to say , but I hope she does not repent and I doubt this heritic would anyway, I certainly would not want to look at this womans face for eternity or the other pieces of misguided filth. They have their own paradise; here on Earth, to divide and conquer till there is nobody left but them, and then watch as they attack and eat each other.
Nancy| 5.8.09 @ 7:00PM
This Ragsdale woman is an IDIOT!!! Who, in their right mind, would appoint her to anything? Calling abortion doctors and nurses Saints is itself an OUTRAGE! Hell is littered with her ilke. May she soon see the error of her ways and beg God's mercy.
Kelso Sturgeon| 5.8.09 @ 7:06PM
As one in exile from the Episcopal Church, I can only note that just when you think it can't get worse, it does. This is the church from the world of darkness--believing in everything and thus nothing. And they wonder why its churches are empty
stmichrick| 5.8.09 @ 8:28PM
Does anyone doubt that the first man-equine wedding will be conducted by the contemporary Episcopal church?
jimfarrowlove| 5.8.09 @ 8:48PM
Abortion is good for you!!! You should love abortion! Society needs to embrace abortion as though it were as vital for human survival as air, water, or the ground beneath our feet!
Abortion will be our undoing, the very umbilical cord noose around our necks. A nation that kills its own children has no future.
Rev. Marty Meuschke| 5.8.09 @ 9:11PM
I am Episcopal clergy and ashamed of this woman and her decidedly un-Christian attitude. I have not spoken with anyone in this diocese who would agree with her, and am appalled she holds any position in our church.
stmichrick| 5.8.09 @ 9:58PM
Why won't FemiNazis like this admit their position is a power issue; life being secondary.
Why won't they explain the logic that says, if the baby is wanted, it's a life; if it is not wanted or is inconvenient then it is an unviable tissue mass.
How anti-intellectual we are.
Lucy| 5.8.09 @ 11:28PM
What shocks me is how few people, especially feminists, seem to understand the devastation that abortion wreaks upon women (not that I am forgetting the innocent lives that are snuffed out.)
A true feminist would see how destructive abortion is -- if she were only to read the many testimonies of women who have been through it.
Please visit www.afterabortion.com to read the harrowing accounts.
It seems to me that women don't understand anymore what it is to be a woman. Children are a blessing and a joy. I thank God that I was raised in a traditional family where mom stayed home, dad went to work, and we were surrounded by love, so that when the time came for me to have children, I gladly put my career on the back burner to stay home and raise my children.
Mother of God, pray for us!
rosa luxemborg| 5.9.09 @ 12:39AM
"It seems to me that women don't understand anymore what it is to be a woman."
Why dont you tell us Lucy? You must have it all figured out to say something like that.
God has no mother, heathen. (seewhatididthere?)
Angel| 5.9.09 @ 1:27AM
You're right, rosa--Lucy does have it all figured out. Sadly, you snarky little stupid--you don't. It's all about love, all of the time. Ain't much love in partial-birth abortion. Right on, Lucy!!
Daisy| 5.9.09 @ 1:29AM
What a hideous lesbian monster. Ugh!
Donna Suarez| 5.9.09 @ 1:38AM
I can't understand how people with education can be so blind, unless God removes the light of His Wisdom from their hearts. This woman needs to know that Our Lord said if you hurt one of these little ones it would be better to tie a milestone around your neck and throw yourself in the river to drown. I really do not think wasted any words.
Jeremiah/Tom Paine| 5.9.09 @ 2:15AM
There is so much evil in our country, and liberals personify most of it. God help us defend the innocent; those who are most vulnerable to the liberals' cruel anti-life social policies.
Jeremiah/Tom Paine| 5.9.09 @ 2:18AM
There is so much evil in our country, and liberals personify most of it. God help us defend the innocent; those who are most vulnerable to the liberals' cruel anti-life social policies.
Juan Oskar| 5.9.09 @ 2:40AM
WOW! She sounds creepy to me.
Zephyr| 5.9.09 @ 2:42AM
Sick liberals will be the ruin of all of us. Truly twisted--they should be institutionalized.
John| 5.9.09 @ 4:32AM
So to her killing is a good thing! Now what if her mother felt the same way where would she be right now? In the end the good Lord will take care of her!!!!!
Sydney Rose| 5.9.09 @ 8:03AM
WE ARE AT WAR WITH SATAN & HIS EVIL MINIONS. He uses anyone who could be his agent to destroy people in the physical and spiritual realm, it’s so clear he is using this Rev K Ragsdale.
1930’s, a Catholic Saint, Sister Faustina once asked our Lord Jesus Christ why God has not brought down the chastisement yet & destroy all evil works & wicked people - and she was told that if that would happen, both the good & the bad will be destroyed but it is NOT TIME YET – because – THE NUMBER OF THE ELECT WHO WILL BE OCCUPANTS OF HEAVEN IS NOT COMPLETE YET (only God knows what is the number and when is the end of days). To reach this number, people MUST BE BORN so as to have the FREE WILL to choose God. Unborn people/children is deprived of this free will and free choice – that means they are not considered elect or those who will have Beatific Vision (those who will see God). Fortunately, unborn children will still be in Heaven because of God’s Mercy however, they will not have Beatific Vision.
This is very important – Satan doesn’t want children to be born – because once a child is born – this child will have the Free Will – is a candidate to be an occupant of Heaven if this child grows to love, choose & serve God. For each child born – the closer it gets to God’s desired number of occupants of Heavenly Kingdom. Satan doesn’t want this because of his extreme jealousy of men who will soon occupy places they lost in Heaven. And also because once the number is reached, it will be THE END OF DAYS- he will be eternally damned in everlasting fires in hell. He rather wants to stay loosed on earth than suffer in hell – and while he can, he will try to influence people to annihilate as many unborn. The magnitude of abortion is growing worldwide – a silent massacre of millions of unborn children every day in global scale.
What we can do is to ACTIVELY SUPPORT PRO-LIFE ORGANIZATIONS, UNCEASING PRAYER & SPIRITUAL WARFARE TO STOP THIS. Consecrate your family & all unborn children to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus & Immaculate Heart of Mary. O Lord Jesus Christ, cover us and all unborn children with Your Most Precious Blood. Amen.
Don't have children abstain| 5.9.09 @ 11:36AM
The message is clear Don't have children, no one wants them. The people having children can't keep them off drugs. can't afford to educate them, they are no more than farm animals, and society dont want them they end up in care or in disfuntional homes. There will be no jobs for them in the future. Just don't breed stop. Children is just a commodity to sell the next War Games.
Children is jus for the Catholic church to rape up the ass. And the Rabbis to play kiddy fiddling on.
And the Dope dealers to make a profit on, read Matthew 24, the womb that never bore fruit, thewy are the lucky one in these times.
The Abortion clinics is making huge profits, tearing children out of the womb before they are born to become the next generation of Rapist, mass murderer, burglers, theives, and child molesters.
ds80| 5.9.09 @ 12:40PM
To the poster "Don't have children abstain":
The Non-Sentient Being swim time is up. Please remove yourself from the gene pool.
Viki| 5.9.09 @ 1:04PM
Yes, alas, the day pass has expired.
Thom| 5.9.09 @ 1:20PM
I’m trying to understand what the functional difference is between the Episcopal Church and the Fire Department in Fahrenheit 451? For those that don’t recognize the reference, in Fahrenheit 451 the Fire Department’s function was to burn books, not put out fires. Katherine Ragsdale’s statements are a rather blatant contradiction of Christian beliefs and her behavior just adds insult to that. If Christianity is to remain relevant in this country the “brand” can’t be allowed to be hijacked by the equivalent of the Fire Department in Fahrenheit 451. Words mean things; Labels mean things. This women and the Episcopal Church in general are a walking contradiction of the teachings of Christ. I’m not a Bible thumper or even attend any church and can see that as plain as day. If you let Satan define the teachings of Christ the word “Christian” will become irrelevant in the scheme of things and history is pretty clear on where that leads for Christians….on this earth.
Pat V| 5.9.09 @ 1:50PM
Perhaps Katherine Ragsdale has never known the Lord. Perhaps she has never seen just what abortion is and how it rips babies apart. These babies are in pain. Anyone with any brain would know what is good and what is evil. Katherine must have been raised in home without God's love and affection. How sorry I am that she has turned into evil and doing the devil's work. Who is she trying to impress by thinking she can preach abortion in her services and think it is a blessing.
The time is coming when Jesus will appear and she will then know how wrong she is. She better pray for God's guidance instead of the devils. Hell is a bad place to be for those who do not follow Gods teaching. She had better think of her soul instead of trying to impress the world with her evilness.
David| 5.9.09 @ 2:31PM
To say that abortion is a blessing is tatamount to saying that gang violence is good for the economy. Now here is the kicker, I am not a republican and I support Obama. But abortion sickens me, especially partial birth abortion.
Anonymous| 5.9.09 @ 2:35PM
All this is sick and wrong. Just bizarre.
John G| 5.9.09 @ 3:27PM
Our work is not done -
This 'woman of the cloth' (sarcasm intended) did not get her views from Christianity. We have a deep and wide trail over the past 2000+ years.
This "blessing" isn't part of it. The cruelty is stunning. Bizarre, sick, twisted, creepy, evil, ... everything wrong with it.
Madame Ragsdale stumbled into the truth in her "our work is not done" phase. The episcop-alien (well, that's where it is heading) faith is tasked with throwing her out of office while trying to improve her soul. Big job, that.
Seth Trevino| 5.9.09 @ 4:36PM
I am part of the Episcopal church and people like Ragsdale give our church a bad name. I am ashamed of my church because of homosexuals and liberals. Thank you for that, Madame Ragsdale. Thank you BUNCHES.
polyester mather | 5.9.09 @ 4:48PM
"The satanists have a ritual they call the "Black Mass," which is a parody and perversion of the Catholic Mass, usually involving profane and/or pornographic substitutions for the holy ritual."
Thanks, Mike, for reminding us of the relationship between the latter day TAS, and the excellent Anglican journal founded by Addison & Steele.
wendy| 5.9.09 @ 7:19PM
Sad that any person in any church, especially one in a high place would go against what the bible teaches. Jesus is sad at the blatant disobedience of his chldren. I will add you to my rosary forever and pray for your soul
ross| 5.9.09 @ 8:39PM
I would love to see this woman's re-write of the bible (e.g. Romans 1:26-32) to accommodate her own beliefs. Her "church" is being destroyed by itself, thanks to its openly homosexual leaders. I don't see any humility in her at all. Pride was the first sin, and she is too arrogant to see her blindness. Even worse, she leads others to Hell. Her only hope is to renounce her heresies and join the one true Church based on Peter. Otherwise, may God have mercy on her soul.
Sasha| 5.9.09 @ 10:53PM
Why do sodomites and lesbians care about abortion and encourage (not merely approve it)? Deep down, it seems that they hate not only themselves but the entire human race and want its elimination from the Earth! [This especially happens after God Extinguishes their lights when they sin sufficiently.] Hence their support for euthanasia.
Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of professors and teachers in the seminaries and universities' humanities sections are anti-Christian and hate God. My belief is that (as did happen with Pol Pot) a few of those professors killed whatever faith she may once have had!
Finally, for the Protestants who find it hard to think in terms of the Virgin Mary as being the Mother of God (and I can sympathise with them): my suggestion is that they think of her as the Mother of Christ, who is God in Human Form as God the Son.
Sasha| 5.9.09 @ 11:03PM
It's not just the USA, UK, Canada, Australia or a specific nation that's in decline - the whole of Western Civilisation is in trouble! It seems to be seeking its suicide ever-more desperately and rapidly!
As to not having children: evil as the times indeed are (I understand you), if everybody did as you suggest, would we ever have had a Mozart, a Michelangelo, a Bernini, Goethe, Cardinal Newman, Bach, St. Louis Capet (Louis IX of France), Pasteur, and so many, many other people??
Dave Wallace| 5.10.09 @ 1:04AM
I always have tried to sort out the person from the institution. I could never see me attending any church service under this Woman, and I will not stoop so low as to call anything, other than a eugenics murdering hate monger. To Stephany, please consider the Catholic Faith, which is adamantly opposed to obortion. Catholic means Universal, for Jesus didn't want many religions, he only wanted one church. And if you want to have the opportunity to come under one umbrella, consider becoming a member of the Conservative's
Restore America's Mission by going to my site
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and Best Wishes!
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High Priestess of Abortion | chad farnan links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Mrs. Jackson| 5.10.09 @ 5:40PM
Episcopal Divinity School?
*yawn*
They are about to go the way of the Shakers. EDS's student body is unique, not for its theology. But for the fact most 'students' are in their forties. EDS also boasts of having one of the best student/professor ration in the country. This is because they've got less than 100 students.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
DaveS| 5.10.09 @ 8:48PM
Camel's nose got in the tent with the ordination of the first female Episcopal priest. Exhibit B: the first female Episcopal bishop followed. It's about the guilt of their lives and lesbianism is at the core of this nonsense. There will never be a re-unification of the Christian churches until these errors are denounced. My only lament is that a lot of this has crept into female religious laity of my Catholic Church. I've seen way too many heretical 'pastoral assistants' asserting themselves to older and weaker priests. I could recount several liturgical horror stories attributable to caving to these clowns - one involving a Holy Saturday recitation of the litany of the Saints: I did not know that Malcolm X and Anwar Sadat (among several others) were canon saints of my Church. When they got the pulpit in some protestant churches the game was up. I see the occasional 'guest speech' at the ambo on Sundays and it sickens me. Benedict XVI, save us from the American clowns!
melvin polatnick| 5.10.09 @ 9:04PM
An unwanted pregnancy is no different than having a tumor growing in the stomach. It must be cut out before it destroys the lifestyle of the bearer. Those sadists that want to see a suffering mother will be punished by God and sentenced to hell after death.
Sparky| 5.10.09 @ 11:14PM
I never knew a tumor could see, breathe on its own and cry after nine months gestation. Sadism, indeed. Hell's coming, people--evil is everywhere.
Ray| 5.11.09 @ 12:01PM
I am not a liberal Episcopalian, but I fail to see how "be fruitful and multiply" equates to abortion being a "blessing." God said to reproduce, to birth children, not kill them in your womb. Killing the innocent children within one's own body is what EVIL does, not the faithful.
Ray| 5.11.09 @ 12:06PM
":Those sadists that want to see a suffering mother will be punished by God and sentenced to hell after death. "
And what of the mothers who KILL their own children? What will become of them? I don't think Heaven will be open to those women who murder their own children. Hell will have a very special place for those mothers, and the people who support and admire them, like yourself.
Ray| 5.11.09 @ 12:08PM
It's rather ironic that children used to be considered a blessing and now, according to some people (even religious people!), they're considered a curse.
MT| 5.11.09 @ 1:21PM
The real curse is celebration of abortion.
stmichrick| 5.11.09 @ 9:55PM
well Melvin;
You are a sick puppy. In fact you are a tumor of humanity. Too bad no one can force you to watch the image as the 'procedure' takes place.
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Scoked & Horrified | 5.12.09 @ 6:49PM
"Reverend" Katherine Ragsdale, who will soon become president of Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, while considering a "blessing" murdering innocent babies who can't defend themselves in their mothers' womb", doesn't make any good favour to those US catholic women who want to be ordained priests".
Women are not reliable to manage moral theolgy, let alone the sacredness of life itslef.
Oh my God! America, wake up! With all this "liberty" you have, you are heading towards an abyss.
One last queston: Does "Reverend" Katherine Ragsdale believe in hell?
Muslims, who are not christians, but have a great respect for life, fare better then many in Amercia vis-a vis religious and human issues.
Allow me to repeat what a kind writer said before me.
It's from another non-chirstian: Mohandas Gandhi:
"I like your Christ, (but) I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Richard Baker| 5.13.09 @ 7:09PM
The saddest part of these High Abortionists is that their "deathstyle" is a cloud cuckoo land in their minds. Sadder still are the people who mindlessly follow along behind these "Merchants of Death". God will not be mocked.
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