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saleboter| 1.12.09 @ 7:28AM

We will all be working well past 65 to pay for all the benefits of government workers and teachers. When will the revolt happen?

Fred Edwards | 1.12.09 @ 8:13AM

Here's a survey that the Education Intelligence Ageny can do: What schools do public school teachers send their children ? This would be very revealing. My instinct tells me they (inner city school teachers) probably live in the suburbs where public schools are better , or they send their kids to private schools.

Deborah| 1.12.09 @ 8:16AM

Just another obvious problem with unions and other liberal ideas. They tend to destroy themselves and the rest of us along the way.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 10:11AM

it would be best to shut down public ed altogether but that would be anti-conservative.

know what Ahnold wants? he wants to be first foreign born potus; his career trajectory is aimed thusly.

Stan Redmond| 1.12.09 @ 11:58AM

AND YET, there's NEVER enough money to fund the schools. The sad reality is education dollars do not go to funding education but instead fund administration and teachers. From Kindergarten to master degree honor students, students be damned. As long as students are taught to be good little democrat voters the system will never change.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 12:48PM

it wont EVER change, Stan, whether dem or GOP voters. is there any longer doubt? only suckers today would fall for change in education. what is 'Change'.
change is building a bridge to the 21st century.
educational change is a chump reading a $14.95 book, 'The Coming 21st Century Electronic Kandy Flake Technetronic Classroom'
all is teacher/administrator funding, status.
Alles tenure. Alles vanity.
kids mixed together like pigs: scholars with room temp IQ kids, J. Delinquents.
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Joe| 1.12.09 @ 1:06PM

This is the sad state we are in with another Govern't run agency. And they want us to trust them to fix all of our troubles. No Thanks. It is time to throw the liberals out.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 1:29PM

Joe,
it wont change unless you throw publik skools out.
but that would be radical.
just leave skools the way they are, children herded together-- no matter what their capabilities and temperaments-- like cattle in a barn.

change.
put straw on classroom floors.

Prez George W. Bush| 1.12.09 @ 2:03PM

Look, guys, clearly, putting a 'mission accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake. It sent the wrong message. We were trying to say something differently but, nevertheless, it conveyed a different message. Sorry, everyone.

Obama Rules| 1.12.09 @ 2:05PM

saleboter,

The revolt happened on Nov. 4, 2008. Weren't you paying attention?

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 2:18PM

um,
to get back to the teeny weenie, ittle bittle wittle 'issue' of education, Obama will do nothing to reform ed, save for higher ed.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 2:25PM

the revolt was on 11/4?

you really believe that?
dont you know govt is really business like everything else, and the people who work for govt care about their precious positions in the food chain?

to save ed infra. funds, put K-16 students in barns and let them roll in the mud at recess.

Kat| 1.12.09 @ 4:13PM

Obama better watch our national security, just one terroist attack on our soil will destroy his administration and all liberal garbage policies (including our failed school system) . Let's see how long the liberal revolution lasts.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 4:16PM

sorry, saleboter,
jumped the gun--you meant the revolt of the elites.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 4:19PM

kat,
actually hes not a liberal, hes a nude democrat
er that is to say a new democrat.

Allan| 1.12.09 @ 4:29PM

Pay no pensions until age 65 - 67 and compute benefits on the best 38 - years average earnings just like scoial security.

Alan brooks| 1.12.09 @ 4:37PM

teachers unions wont allow it, Allan. there are no econ conservatives or libertopians running teachers unions & lobbies.
good try, though.

Ken| 1.12.09 @ 10:14PM

These numbers are huge. If I were a teacher in California, I would automatically discount the value of my future pension benefits by at least 50%. We can not bankrupt the state and all of the taxpayers of the state in order to meet a ridiculous promise that was irresponsibly made by vote grabbing school board members.

The days of public employee pay, benefits, and job security being excessively higher than markets rates paid in the private sector is soon to be over. Good riddance.

Alan Brooks| 1.12.09 @ 11:11PM

does that mean education will improve? education is the most important 'issue', more important than anything else in Ca, so how did school boards become so irresponsible in the first place?
why wont teachers unions and administrators make the same mistakes next decade?

Osamas Pajamas| 1.13.09 @ 1:51AM

Hey. It gets better [worse]. OhBummer wants to add a million or so new government employees ---- with all the salary and benefit problems that implies for the privately-employed and largely unarmed taxpayer who is expected to pay the bill. Overthrow OhBummer. Overthrow the Democrats. Overthrow the public school system, and refuse to pay the reitrement and other benefits of teachers. Let 'em eat snake.

AreYouDumbOrWhat| 1.13.09 @ 11:00AM

ENCINITAS - 4 Million not 4 Billion.
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2008/02/06/22pensions.h27.html

Random Teacher| 7.5.09 @ 6:38PM

I'm not scared of performance pay. Bring it on. If it gives me the opportunity to make more money, I'm all for it.

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