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Voter Fraud
In 1980, fresh out of school and working on Wall Street, I also worked for the Reagan campaign. I had the job every night at around 11 p.m. of going to Times Square and getting one of the first copies of the next day's New York Times. I would take it to the Reagan New York City headquarters in midtown Manhattan, where a phone number would be left for me as to where the traveling Reagan campaign party was staying that night. My job was to cut out the articles in the Times covering the Presidential campaign and "quip" (an early fax) them to the hotel where the Reagan party was staying.
As the election neared, I learned that the campaign high command had decided that Reagan would probably not win unless he racked up a vote margin of 2-3%. That was what was thought necessary to overcome Democrat big city machine voter fraud.
On Election Day, I was part of a team working to counter that fraud in New York City. A couple of us went to heavily Democrat neighborhoods to see what was going on. One of those was the orthodox Jewish Williamsburg neighborhood. A van was driving through the streets blaring something over and over in Yiddish. I asked my Jewish partner what the van was blaring. He said the van's message was "Vote for Reagan. He's the only hope." I knew then that Reagan would win, as he did 51% to 41%.
Chicago
Extensive voter fraud has persisted to this day. Former Justice
Department official Hans von Spakovsky discusses in a recent
Heritage Foundatioin report a shocking 1982 election for Governor
in Illinois in which 10% of the votes cast in Chicago, 100,000
overall, were found to be fraudulent by a federal grand jury
investigation that produced 63 criminal convictions for vote
fraud. Spakovsky writes:
One primary method of perpetuating such fraud was for impersonators to vote in the name of dead people, people who had moved away, and fraudulently registered names. Impersonators were sometimes paid in cigarettes, liquor, or cash, known in the trade as "walking around money." Votes for a straight Democrat ticket, regardless of the actual voter's preferences, were also cast for the elderly, the disabled, and the sick who were unaware of what was going on. Then Chicago U.S. Attorney Dan Webb estimated that 80,000 illegal aliens were registered to vote in the city at the time, and that was 25 years ago.
Precinct captains filled out absentee ballots obtained by others, and absentee ballots with Republican votes were trashed. Another method was to alter the vote count by repeatedly running straight party line ballots through the counting machine, or altering the counting machine vote totals.
Unfortunately, as Spakovsky notes, the Justice Department has never again engaged in such a thorough investigation of vote fraud. Most likely, the practice continues in Chicago today. Moreover, similar practices have recently been exposed in Philadelphia, where sometimes more votes are cast than the number of residents, and in Wisconsin and Tennessee.
Florida
The problem of voter fraud today is thoroughly revealed in a
recent book by Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund,
Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our
Democracy (Encounter Books). One of the best features of
that book is that it reveals what really happened in Florida in
2000: The Democrats tried to steal the election for Gore, but
failed.
On the day after the election, Bush was declared the winner in Florida by 1,784 votes. Gore kept demanding broader and broader recounts, which were conducted in heavily Democrat counties mostly by Democrat party officials. Bush's margin kept declining, but he kept winning the recounts by hundreds of votes. Finally, Gore won a decision by the notoriously liberal fiction writers on the Florida Supreme Court, who began rewriting Florida election law to require a new statewide hand recount without clear uniform standards for each county. Both because the state court was changing the election rules as specified by the legislature, and because the counties would do the recount without uniform statewide standards, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the mandated recount violated the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. With the recounts ended, the Florida Secretary of State declared Bush the final winner by 537 votes.
After all the shouting was over, a consortium of major news organizations conducted their own thorough Florida recount. Despite well-developed Democrat mythology, supported by an idiotically irresponsible HBO movie on the controversy, the New York Times reported the results as follows: "A comprehensive review of the uncounted Florida ballots from last year's presidential election reveals that George W. Bush would have won even if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount of the votes that the Florida Supreme Court had ordered to go forward."
But Fund shows that only widespread Democrat vote fraud made the election as close as it was. The highly liberal Palm Beach Post conducted an investigation concluding that the county had illegally allowed 5,600 convicted felons to vote. Felons, of course, vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, apparently seeing them as soul mates. By contrast, Democrat lawyers won a motion to disqualify 1,420 military ballots because they didn't have a foreign postmark (which most likely resulted because the ballots were sent back through the U.S. military rather than foreign post offices). Those serving in the U.S. armed forces overwhelmingly vote Republican.
The national TV networks declared that Florida's polls were closed at 7 p.m. Eastern time, even though the polls in the heavily Republican Florida panhandle were still open for another hour because they are in Central time. Fund notes that CBS broadcast 33 erroneous statements between 7 p.m. and 8 p.m. that Florida's polls were closed. NBC followed almost immediately by other networks even called the state for Gore at 7:48 pm Eastern time. Fund cites Democrat and Republican pollsters, as well as academics, who concluded that this cost Bush a net loss of close to 10,000 votes.
Most importantly of all, Fund conducts a detailed analysis of Palm Beach County election return anomalies, buttressed by local interviews, to conclude that Bush was deprived of another 15,000 votes through a little scam known as double punching. After the polls closed, Democrat election officials appeared to have taken dozens of the punch hole ballots at a time, and punched through the little box for Gore on all of them, using a nail or pencil. For ballots that had been voted for Bush, this would have resulted in invalid ballots that appeared to have been punched for both Bush and Gore. For ballots that had been voted for Gore, this would have had no effect, because the nail or pencil would have just pushed through a box that had already been punched out for Gore.
Washington State
Fortuitously, what Gore was trying to do by seeking recount after
recount in Florida was demonstrated in the Governor's race in the
state of Washington in 2004. On election night that year,
Republican Dino Rossi had apparently won the Governor's race over
Democrat Christine Gregoire by 3,000 votes.
Washington is comprised of heavily Democrat Seattle and King County, surrounded by a sea of Republican counties. Democrats in King County first focused on provisional ballots that were legally invalid because they were not signed or the signatures did not match the voter registration on record. (Provisional ballots are ballots that are cast because the voter does not appear on the registration rolls, so his vote is taken and kept to be verified later if possible.) Even though federal law requires the identity of such voters to be kept private, the Democrats found a judge who ordered that the names and addresses of these provisional voters be given to the Democrat party so they could go to the residence of each one and get the signatures straightened out.
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Mark Murphy| 10.22.08 @ 7:44AM
I remember the 2000 recount. I don't recall anyone ever explaining how all those pregnant hanging chads got to be that way. I remember Brian Williams on the air punching holes in punch cards trying to make his own hanging chads and whatever and he wasn't able to do it.
I always had a hunch about this how easy it would be for a campaign worker to take a stack of punch cards and spoil them.
I grew up in Illinois. I know Chicago slime when I see it. I remember a Cook County poll worker was quoted a long time ago, "We throw the ballots in the air and the ones that stick to the ceiling we count Republican."
msfreeh| 10.22.08 @ 9:10AM
for a partial list of crimes committed by FBI agents over 400 pages long see
campusactivism.org
click on home
click on forum
scroll down to FBI WATCH
Nick in Virginia| 10.22.08 @ 9:39AM
The Democratic party has gone one better in the fraud department: beyond Voter fraud, we now have Candidate fraud.
Yes, 0bama is a fraud. He has lied about ALL of his close personal and business associations; he has lied about his voting history; he has not just flip-flopped on many issues, but he lied about his prior stands on those issues (Iran, the surge, Born Alive Infant Protection Act, etc).
But the only reason he got away with all that is because the MSM decided to let him get away with it. So the MSM can be considered to be fraudulent as well.
Cindy Sue Causey| 10.22.08 @ 10:18AM
Seemed appropriate to pop in and drop these couple of stories to you in case you hadn't come across them yourself..
Peace and best wishes from North Georgia.. :)
~
Poll workers clash at Falls nursing home
Police, elections board investigate alleged assault over marked ballot
By Stephanie Warsmith, Beacon Journal staff writer
Published on Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008
http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/30930849.html
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Sec. of State takes up challenged voter issue
Jack Justice says his vote didn't go to the candidate he wanted
Updated: Oct 20, 2008 10:22 PM
By Jennifer Emert, WALB.com, Albany, Georgia
http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=9191440
Previous:
Investigation launched into questionable voting assistance
Investigation to be conducted into handling of mentally challenged man's vote
Updated: Oct 15, 2008 04:59 PM
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=9183158
Previous:
Mentally challenged man says his vote wasn't right
Assisted voting takes an alleged wrong turn
Updated: Oct 14, 2008 06:20 PM
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=9177991
Berl Goetz| 10.22.08 @ 10:26AM
Can McCain garner a margin greater than Reagen's? Voter fraud perpetrated by the overwhelming Democrat corruption-machine is at its greatest level.
I read the junk posted at campusactivism.org, by the way, and it is just more po-gressive neurosis.
me| 10.22.08 @ 10:28AM
me
Dai Alanye| 10.22.08 @ 11:12AM
Your petition links seem to be faulty.
Andy| 10.22.08 @ 1:09PM
The mainstream media's complete bias coverage of this campaign has rendered me many sleepless nights and an overall knot in my stomach that I cannot get rid of. It is so obvious and blatant that I am considering suites against MSN, NBC, ABC, CNN, and the others for my decline in health and happiness. The spin machine must be stopped at some point. Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom to Commit Voter Fraud by proxy. I suggest we all consider ways to stop this one-sided coverage.
Marc Jeric| 10.22.08 @ 1:30PM
In 1957 I escaped a Commnist country after being exposed to 12 years of revolutionary marxism. The vote there was always 99.5% for Communist Party candidates who never lost. The Democrat Party vote fraud is widespread and present in all our states - and the way it's going soon enough we will have similar results here: 99.5% Democrat.
dfelton| 10.22.08 @ 1:57PM
Please vote for Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party's candidate for president.
Only Bob Barr opposes US government investment in large commercial banks, which is Socialism.
Both Obama and, very sadly, McCain approve of investing US government money in commercial banks.
And Bob Barr opposed the $700 million giveaway to Wall Street, also known as the bailout.
With McCain now having little chance, it is the best of times to vote on PRINCIPLE. Send a message to the Republican Party! Tell them that it is time to be really conservative, for a change.
Please vote for the only true conservative in the race, Bob Barr. He has the support of Rep. Ron Paul.
Please vote for Bob Barr on election day.
Brian| 10.22.08 @ 2:42PM
Wow. Unbelievabe. The last two elections stolen by Republicans and Diebold, yet you are trying to claim Democrat voter fraud. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Your entire premise, of Reagan needing a 2-3% margin to overcome voter fraud, is faulty. Paranoia is part of Alzheimers, and Reagan was pretty paranoid before even before he became the demented puppet of the Redubyakins. Voter fraud in the last two elections is quite well documented, so you do have that part right. Only problem is that it was the Republicans responsible. Fortunately, there are enough people this cycle who can see through the smears that the fraud won't swing this election. Sorry.
OCPatriot| 10.22.08 @ 3:01PM
Unfortunately, this piece, as expected, only takes one side of the vote fraud issue. For those who might want a more balanced look at the issue, you might go to http://www.stealbackyourvote.org/ , which is co-authored and sponsored by Robert Kennedy Jr. It has been, no kidding, a basic tenet of Karl Rove's action plan to disenfranchise as many Democratic and newer diversified voters in elections that the Republicans are losing; and, lo and behold, the complaints about ACORN have come from the Republicans as McCain's poll numbers dwindle. Again, all this is NEGATIVE and DISPARAGING and hides the fact that positive plans and programs to benefit everybody are like hens' teeth, very scarce, in the Republican offerings. McCain, guys, is losing and the only way he can fight back (because he's a military man and fighting is what he knows) is to be NEGATIVE and COMPLAIN about side issues.
MSHILL| 10.22.08 @ 3:07PM
QUESTION: ARE YOU ALL SUGGESTION THAT THERE ONLY VOTER'S FRUAD IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY..........I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSE SHOULD NOT THROW STONES.........
ThisWomansOpinion| 10.22.08 @ 3:09PM
McCain Employing GOP Operative Accused Of Voter Registration Fraud
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Share Print CommentsJohn McCain's campaign has directed $175,000 to the firm of a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states.
According to campaign finance records, a joint committee of the McCain-Palin campaign, the RNC and the the California Republican Party, made a $175,000 payment to the group Lincoln Strategy in June for purposes of "registering voters." The managing partner of that firm is Nathan Sproul, a renowned GOP operative who has been investigated on multiple occasions for suppressing Democratic voter turnout, throwing away registration forms and even spearheading efforts to get Ralph Nader on ballots to hinder the Democratic ticket.
In a letter to the Justice Department last October, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers said that that Sproul's alleged activities "clearly suppress votes and violate the law."
That Sproul would come under the employment umbrella of the McCain campaign -- the Republican National Committee has also separately paid Lincoln Strategy at least $37,000 for voter registration efforts this cycle -- is not terribly surprising. Sproul, who has donated nearly $30,000 to McCain's campaign, has been in the good graces of GOP officials for the past decade despite charges of ethical and potentially legal wrongdoing.
But his involvement with the Republican Party's voter registration efforts has the potential to create a political and public relations headache at a time when McCain can ill-afford one. For weeks the Arizona Republican and his allies have been seeking to tie Barack Obama to the community organization ACORN, which they have accused of potentially committing massive voter registration fraud. Sproul's contract with the GOP ticket -- in addition to news of Republican officials attempting to suppress Democratic turnout in California -- raises, for some, questions about McCain's own efforts.
"It should certainly take away from McCain's argument," said Bob Grossfeld, a progressive political consultant based in Arizona who has followed Sproul's career. "Without knowing anything of what is going on with ACORN, there is a clear history with Mr. Sproul either going over the line or sure as hell kicking dirt on it, and doing it for profit and usually fairly substantive profit."
As Republican Congressman Chris Cannon summarized during a joint hearing for the subcommittee on commercial and administrative law back in May 2008: "The difference between ACORN and Sproul is that ACORN doesn't throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out."
Indeed, Sproul's history is filled with allegations of political misdeeds. During the 2004 election, Sproul & Associates (the former name of Lincoln Strategy) was accused of attempting to destroy forms collected by Democratic voters in Nevada. That same year in Oregon, Sproul & Associates allegedly instructed canvassers to only accept Republican registration forms in addition to destroying those turned in by Democrats.
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In Minnesota, meanwhile, Sproul's firm was accused of actually firing workers who brought back Democratic registration forms, while other canvassers were allegedly paid "$13 an hour, with the $3 bonus for every Bush, undecided or Ralph Nader voter registration." Similar problems related to Sproul & Associates popped up in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.
All of this was executed, it seems, through an elaborate web of deception. As Salon.com wrote back in 2004:
Canvassers were told to act as if they were nonpartisan, to hide that they were working for the RNC, especially if approached by the media... In letters the firm sent to the libraries, Sproul misrepresented itself as America Votes -- a left-leaning national voter registration group not affiliated with Sproul -- but said that it was interested in registering "all those who wish to register to vote." Shortly after Sproul canvassers began working the libraries, though, patrons began complaining that the canvassers were being especially inquisitive about their political leanings, and some were pushing people to register as Republicans.
Sproul has denied those charges, claiming often that his registration efforts were bipartisan and that any suggestion otherwise was nothing more than the testimony of disgruntled former employees. He did not return a request for comment for this article.
But there has been a wide array of public complaint over the scope and nefariousness of his activities. Sens. Patrick Leahy and Ted Kennedy sent a letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004 asking that the Justice Department "launch an immediate investigation into the activities of Mr. Sproul and his firm." Three years later, members of Congress still weren't satisfied. Rep. Conyers complained in an Oct. 2007 letter that the Justice Department was not closely scrutinizing Sproul's efforts. "The alleged misconduct described by many witnesses," he wrote, "clearly suppress[es] votes and violate[s] the law."
Indeed, those who have followed Sproul's rise in Republican circles argue that the pattern of behavior is too hard to dismiss as anything other than ethically-blurry, brass knuckle tactics.
"The biggest single thing is that he is a true believer," said Grossfeld. "He might take this as a compliment, but he is as committed to the worldview and the neocon approach to life as any operative I have ever run across. He is absolutely devoted to whatever that ideology is and as a byproduct of that he will look for every opportunity he can, I believe to further his or his client's agenda."
OCPatriot| 10.22.08 @ 3:12PM
Polls are not, by the way, subject to voter fraud manipulation. If you want to see the polls and where they're trending, RealClearPolitics shows you what they're reporting; it has a conservative slant but tends to be objective. Find it at http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ and catch about 14 different pollsters, from FOX to Pew, all legitimate polling companies. All of the information today shown in their website must make McCain's and Republican's advisors more determined than ever to besmirch anything positive for Democrats including registering more new (and younger) voters than anybody else in a long, long time.
Don Saunders| 10.22.08 @ 3:20PM
Well written.
Problem is... not so well researched or reasoned.
Google "Vote Suppression."
The history of infringement on our right to vote is long and tattered. To propose that it is somehow a "Democratic" phenomenon requires that peculiar ability of the Spec to view issues with only one eye open.
"You did it first" is not my argument. I am a grownup, much to my dismay. My argument is that understanding requires a clear perspective (i.e. two eyes open) and a reasoned analysis.
Here is an interesting question for you: "If the substantial increase in registrations, especially among minority and urban areas in the South is real, will it impact the number of voting stations available?"
The answer I have so far is "Not in Florida." The number of voting stations in rural areas is 3X those in urban areas. That means longer lines and, perhaps, discouraged (or "suppressed") voters.
Tom| 10.22.08 @ 3:26PM
No democracy can survive for long when many of its citizens believe that the elections are rigged. This issue must be solved soon!
Holly| 10.22.08 @ 3:57PM
Sigh...
How many times does someone have to point out to you Republicans that VOTER FRAUD and VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD is not the same thing. ACORN was the victim there. They paid part time employees to register voters. These people might not have done their jobs properly. No one is going to vote more than once. You still have to have ID to vote. So the registration situation will not affect the election. Seriously. You guys have to know that by now. You are beating a dead horse, as they say.
And I saw a comment that made me laugh out loud. You think CNN and the like are biased and you want to "file suit"? While you are at it, be sure to include FOX. It's the most pathetic excuse of a news channel. FOX is blatantly trying to frighten everyone with racist undertones and fabrications. Watch BBC or PBS news instead. Heck even listening to NPR is better than most news channels.
Voter suppression is the real evil and you should all be paying attention to that instead of grasping straws with your anti Obama sentiments.
I am a young, southern female and I am wholeheartedly voting for Obama. Actually, I already did.
Obama '08!
Jan WN| 10.22.08 @ 4:12PM
What concerns me the most are the machines that do not spit out a paper ballot, that I can confirm what and for whom I voted! Even in Texas, where for many elections we haven't really had close elections, even then I have my doubts that no matter how I voted, the machine may or may not indicate a correct ballot! In a true democracy that is very disturbing!
birdy| 10.22.08 @ 4:17PM
ummm.. actually -- those Diebold voting machines were programmed to "flip" the votes from Democrat to Republican. This has been widely documented. When some of these fraud machines were discovered in Utah by an elected official named Bruce Funk, he was fired.
How can a corporation get an elected official fired? Big stuff going on. Read about it.
These were the machines used in Florida.
ed| 10.22.08 @ 6:01PM
Holly,
The whole purpose of this nonsense is to set the predicate that the right wingers will use after the election - Obama "stole" the election. They know they are going to get pasted in the upcoming election and this is their way of trying to make themselves feel better. The right wingers are not interested in facts or reasoned analysis. Of course Mickey Mouse isn't going to vote but you can use that example to yell "voter fraud!". The republican definition of voter fraud is poor people voting. The party has a problem in that its message is so narrow and exclusionary, the only way they can win is to keep people who they think won't vote for them from voting. Their real goal is to put as many roadblocks up as possible to prevent poor and disenfranchised people from voting. This cynical strategy is no longer working and they are freaked out. I think the right wing wackjobs are literally going to go crazy after the election. Let the Obama era begin!
Scott| 10.22.08 @ 10:36PM
Not mentioned were the voiting irregularities on the reservations in SD when Johnson was elected to the senate and how poll watchers stopped similar things leading to Tom Daschel's defeat.
hp| 10.22.08 @ 10:46PM
ed and holly.
sigh.
when one employs people who R microsoft-level tech savvy, mickey-bleepin-mouse can do anything on this planet his little heart desires.
end of discussion. ;)
Conservative Tim| 10.22.08 @ 11:58PM
Holly,
I'd like to point out that you do NOT need an ID to vote. Democrats claim that requiring an ID to vote will "suppress" and "disenfranchise" to many people. Voter Registration Fraud is still a very very big deal as it threatens our voting process. (regardless of which side does it)
Also, is FOX news very right wing biased... of course. But no more so then BBC or PBS is left wing biased (granted, Fox tends to be nutty sometimes). I can't believe you even countered with that. All new's media reports the new's in a manner that favors their cause, FOX is the only one for that favors the republican's, compared to the dozen or so that are in love with the Dems.
screw Obama and screw McCain. One has very Socialist views and the other has very Liberal views (hint, McCain is the liberal). True conservatives don't have a horse in this race.
Cody| 10.25.08 @ 11:24PM
90% of democrat voters are illiterate, ignorant and/or totally unable to form an original thought
American| 10.26.08 @ 2:01AM
I can't believe all this Diebold stuff - company owned in part by Hugo Chavez. We all know Democrats cheat in elections, just as they did last time, slashing tires, illegally holding open voting stations in St. Louis only so that west county Dems could drive down town to vote again, the Madison WI students boasting on camera of voting four and five times.
But what do you expect from people who believe that there is no truth, only the group will to power, and that words are just a mask for power.
Osamas Pajamas| 10.26.08 @ 2:09AM
Here's another form of voter fraud. James Madison wrote that an informed public is key to the success of a democracy and the Demos and their unindicted co-conspirators in the media are always babbling about "the public's right to know." But now they pooh-pooh every attempt to expose the voting public to hidden facts about OhBummer, they support every OhBummer dodge and evasion, they further propagate every falsehood launched against McCain and Republicans generally, and they work hand-in-glove with America's premier voter fraud organization, ACORN. The media infect the so-called fact-checking services, for whom half-truths, misrepresentations, disinformation and prevarication are operating policies. We have a fraud, OhBummer, running for president and hijacking it by means of fraudulent voter regsitrations and manipulation of vote-counting, and protrayed as a victim of fraud rather than a perpetrator of fraud, by that gang of frauds, the mainstream media. Would that there were a chain that one might yank and flush all this excrement down the drain.
fournier| 10.29.08 @ 4:21PM
Why not have a national voter card?
Matt Miltz| 10.31.08 @ 9:40AM
Please have a national voter card.
LCp Mosley| 12.30.08 @ 3:26PM
Acorn registered false voters and then voted for them, imgainary jerks, multiple registrations etc. typical rat voter fraud. Obama did not "win" the election him and you fascist pukes stole it with a culture of voting twice hello dumbazzblack dude on CNN and organized campaign of voter fraud and double voting along with typical identidty theft voting. The only way to make sure voting is uncorrupt is a person to person house to house check based certification prcess done after the fact with the voter in question. All multiple names must be throughlly checked and decided upon.
Fact Dienbold was a used for voter fraud by Democrats, hence all those "pre-vote" votes for John Kerry. fact is DIEBOLD represents only a small part of the voting system, and it is reliable and tamper proof, just as long as when the voting starts the numbers strt at 0. And no there is no way to "hack into the machine" when voting starts and ends, to blatant. Spoonamore who was Dean buisness fascist lied and wasnever a "Mccain/Bush insider". Randi Rhodes wild stupidity was throughly refuted ala Christic institute. Furhtermore no convictions, no evidence, and no truth. Meanwhile Fake "early voters" WHO LIVE APPARENTLY IN AN OHIO RIVER gave Obama the "victory". I hate this white keynan phony.
LCpl Mosley| 12.30.08 @ 3:28PM
The organized smear attempt by the goofy Soviet controlled apparatus through Diebold, conveinantly ignores no CONNECTION DIEBOLD TO REPS, but a big connection from DIEBOLD to Hugo and Dems....me thinka ya'll are playing that political theater game again.
LCpl Mosley| 12.30.08 @ 3:46PM
Fox isn't right-wing biased...it has traditional washingtonian "liberla" scum like Kondracke and Charen, a legacy leftist in Chris Wallace who always makes sure Democrats have the full gauntlet to make up crap un checked with no critical analysis and always backs smears against against reps that aid/abet the left without overreaching except on occasion in controversial junk and the he tries to make us look really bd, it has Colmes then Greta and Rivera, and O'Reilly. All of whom have big DEMOCRAT Leftwing pasts and egotistical. BOR plays the middle, Greta does it in her own way, Riera is a crackpot leftist, Colmes is insane. Then you hae Cavuto, Sean, and Megyn etc. Along with a bunch of other "middle roaders" etc. And then they allow everyone on there from Wright to Dornan. CNN no that Beck is gone have Washingtonians then hardocre dipshits, MSNBC is Pravada, NBC, ABS, and CBS are CNN with more snobbery.
But he ultimate effect of our "media" i that they are owned by Soviet buisiness saboteurs who have extreme connection with radical subverts and everythng from Avlar apple, to Tailhook, then to TXNAG forgeries then to the cove up of Iraq's NBC programs and massive funding, equiping, and training of Al Qaeda along with a won war in Iraq since 2003 cultimating after massive conventional victory with a situation handled overall very well despite massive subversion and treason along wth minor missteps caused by listening to the UN, doing what Democrats want us to do or soe of wht they want from not totally removing the Baathist power structure...to politically correct prosecution of the occupation, to many other stupid things.
I'm ranting right now because dammit I'm right and our fucked up media hasn't reported even relayed one truth in all this time. As a SSGT I know has told me the overwelhming majority of the attacks he saw at the height of terrorism in Iraq was targerted specifically at civilians to intimidate them, have them not cooperate with us, shut down their economic and civic lives, and provide the media with carnage to distort to the public. He was hit multiple times with IED attacks. Something very similar I've heard soming from those returning from Iraq.
Hear those stories printed? Fuck NO!
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