With former New York Governor George Pataki becoming the eighth Republican to formally declare a White House bid, it occurs to me that he has a great deal in common with someone who has yet to formally declare - Jeb Bush.
Both Pataki and Bush were competent, successful governors whose successors have not matched their achievements in office.
Both Pataki and Bush last ran for office in 2002.
Both Pataki and Bush have developed opinions rather unpopular with Republican voters. With Bush, it's his support for Common Core and his soft views on illegal immigration. With Pataki, it's abortion, climate change and gun control.
It's true that Pataki doesn't have the financial advantages Bush has nor does he have the burden of Bush's name.
Pataki's best bet would be if he were to shine in the debates. But will he get even to climb on the stage?