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The Spectacle Blog
That former Congressman and GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul would smear an American hero like Chris Kyle following his death speaks a great deal to his character or lack thereof.
Yesterday, Paul sent out a Tweet which read:
Chris Kyle’s death seems to confirm that “he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.” Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn’t make sense.
It makes you wonder if these were the sort of letters Paul sent to the families of fallen soldiers who resided in his district. Needless to say, this justly provoked outrage. Glenn Beck described Paul as “the newest member of the Westboro Baptist Church.” Paul should have thanked Kyle for his service to his country and then kept his goddamn mouth shut. A few hours later, Paul took to Facebook. Try as he much he couldn’t resist jumping on his soapbox:
As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend’s violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad. My condelences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies.
Paul’s first two sentences could have atoned for his Tweet. But he just had to jump on his soapbox. Blaming Kyle’s death on “unconstitutional and unnecessary wars” is no better than Obama and company blaming the Sandy Hook massacre on insufficient gun control.
A word of advice to Ron Paul. You might want to avoid Navy SEAL bars. There will be a lineup of guys waiting to pop you in the jaw just like Kyle did to Jesse Ventura after the former Minnesota Governor dissed the SEALS. Yeah, I know Ventura says it never happened and sued Kyle. Regardless, Paul should heed my advice for his own good.
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Sean| 2.5.13 @ 10:30PM
I think Paul has a ton of support from the military and everyone knows that chicken hawks don't fight so he doesn't have much to worry about. The liberals, neocons, and open borders crowd are trying to destroy this country and that is where the real fight is.
Jack in Wi| 2.6.13 @ 6:48AM
Why would you take a mental patient to a firing range? That is what Adam Lanza's mother did. Look how that turned out. Paul is right to blame the war for these deaths. We can also blame all these suicides in the military and among the war vets on the liars and criminals who put us into these wars. Anyone who pushed these wars is too blame for all this misery. I don't especially like snipers. Look at the one that gunned down Randy Weaver's wife. Sheldon Adelson wants his young sons to be Israeli snipers so they can gun down innocent Palistinians, What a wonderful ambition, paid assassins for a criminal state. Live by the sword die by the sword. Anyone who thinks people who fight in criminal wars are heros is wrong. Plenty of Germans who fought for Hitler did so with great courage. I don't see you calling them heros.
Ryan| 2.6.13 @ 8:17AM
Actually, snipers can more easily discriminate against who is and isn't worth shooting than say, a bomb dropped from an airplane.
Your statements are false witness against many American military men in general, as well as your statement about "innocent" Palestinians.
Give proof, or go home.
Kyle was trying to help veterans. What do you do? Slam them.
At times, you're right about the idiots who get us involved into improper conflicts. But your statements are often several levels too far.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 11:48AM
Jack and Sean: both of you are vermin not good enough to clean up this hero's dirty jock straps.
And Jack, that goes double for you, jihadist fellating scumbag.
Ron Paul is an idiot. Perhaps he should look up exposure therapy. It is obvious from his other comments that what he knows of psychiatry came from a Cracker Jack box. He is fine at delivering babies, I'm sure.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 11:49AM
Jack: will you ever learn how to spell? Or are you too busy guzzling jihadist germ plasm?
Jack in Wi| 2.6.13 @ 1:05PM
Occam: Go back to your murderous and insane fantacies in your mental ward. I may never learn how to spell but your screwd up brain will never learn how to think in a sane manner. The Zionazi is also a spelling and typing Nazi.
Jack in Wi| 2.6.13 @ 1:14PM
There is way way too much worship of the military and police among so-called conservatives. Our founders recognized that these were necessary evils, to be strictly limited, and controlled. My uncle was a cop who hated to make an arrest and hated to give out tickets. If he could avoid it, he never did. This country is turning into a police state, with all this worship of the powers of the government enforcers. Defend the country, not the world. Police serious crimes, not all this chicken poop.
Bandido| 2.6.13 @ 1:21PM
Did you mean to say fantasies? Phantasm? Or fantastic? As in NBA action, it's FANtastic!
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 5:14PM
Jack: insulting is so much more pointed when you learn to spell: for example, "screwed." Again, Mr. Kyle was worth a thousand of you, maggot.
Go back to worshipping child molesters.
TNcracker | 2.6.13 @ 7:10PM
He's right, Jack. Learn to spell. Your vitriol doesn't work so well when you make so many errors. Why is it that hatred of Jews is the primary focus of your life? Just curious. It must make for a miserable existence.
Jack in Wi| 2.7.13 @ 12:30AM
I am quite happy my friend spreading truth and justice. I love the Jews and all of my neighbors, Muslim Hindu, Protestant and everyone else. Jesus tells me to do so. For the Truth will set you free. The fifth column here hates the truth like a vampire hates the crucifix.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 5:22PM
Jack: too many commas for independent clauses.
I doubt the Palestinians will be "innocent." Except that you, Jack, support raping and maiming little girls, so they may be innocent to you.
Jack in Wi| 2.7.13 @ 12:34AM
You Israeli's Occam are thieves, murderers, torturers, and liars. The Palistinians have lived there for 5 thousand years and are the cousins of Jesus and the Apostles. They have done nothing to deserve the treatment they get in Israel.
Ryan| 2.7.13 @ 9:32AM
So....firing indiscriminantly into civilian areas and using civilian cover for military emplacements is justified?
RCV| 2.7.13 @ 12:15PM
They get treated better in Israel than any of them would get treated in Syria, Jordan or Lebanon, each of which went out of their way to confine Palestinians to camps, slaughter them wholesale when they complained, and expelled them as a group.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:29AM
Uh, I'm an American, Jack. And you are using the possessive of Israeli rather than the plural.
The cousins of Jesus from my readings were....Jews.
RJ| 2.5.13 @ 11:39PM
Chris Kyle's death was a tragedy. I don't know why Ron Paul would say such a thing.
spike59| 2.6.13 @ 5:33AM
Likewise, RonPaul's birth was a tragedy...
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 4:16AM
Well that's a very Christian, pro-life thing to say Spike59. Just when I think I can't stand the idiocy of liberals a neo-con will come around and open his mouth.
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:22AM
ahhhh...'neocon"...the rallying cry of the true Paultard
spike59| 2.11.13 @ 6:27AM
Well that's a very Christian, pro-life thing to say
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this from the Paulturd who posted his fantasies about anally raping people with a broken and splintered broom handle
hypocrite much?
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.6.13 @ 1:17AM
I wouldn't call what Paul said smearing. The timing of the comments was insensitive and maybe unwise, but the meat and potatoes of his comments is 150% correct. PTSD has been one of the unfortunate outcomes of the unwarranted Iraq War.
I say Ron Paul is an American hero for having the guts to speak the truth in a time when nobody wants to hear the truth. Was Kyle a hero? You don't get a Silver and Bronze star by being a coward. Most assuredly Kyle did heroic things as a US Navy Seal in combat, however that doesn't make Paul's statements any less true.
Also my godfather was a Seal in Vietnam my grandfather was UDT during WWII and cleared the mines for the DDay invasion. Neither of those men felt the need to write a book or brag about how many confirmed kills they had in combat. The old timers hardly ever spoke about their war experiences let alone bragged about how many "confirmed" kills they had. I guess its a different America nowadays.
spike59| 2.6.13 @ 5:34AM
RonPaul is a babbling nutjob who spends too much time parroting the nonsense he hears from the voices in his head; he belongs in a nursing home
aware| 2.6.13 @ 5:51AM
Speaking of babbling....neocon babbling at that.
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:24AM
'neocon'...you can always tell a Rontard; you just can't get them to understand
hey, i'm guessing you got the name 'aware' the same way a huge biker sometimes gets the nickname 'Tiny'
Ryan| 2.6.13 @ 8:19AM
Paul actually may be theologically incorrect in his terminology. "Live by the sword, die by the sword," in context, probably means more about those who live to make war on others will likely meet a violent end in war.
Not get murdered helping a guy trying to cope.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.6.13 @ 2:03PM
You are right Ryan. Ron Paul may be theologically incorrect because Kyle and his fellow veteran who were slain followed orders they did not give them. A good example of living by the sword and dying by the sword would be Saddam Hussein himself, or (God forbid) if any of the US officials who knowingly misled us into war with Iraq causing the deaths of thousands of American troops and thousands more Iraqis met an end not unlike Saddam Hussein or Ghaddafi. Then it could be said of them "You Live By The Sword, You Will Perish By the Sword."
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 5:23PM
It is a different America, Dmitri: now we have elected Republican reps who smear war heroes, and Republicans who support child rape and maiming.
aware| 2.6.13 @ 5:39AM
Highly appropriate you would include blasphemy there, Aaron. Now we know where you stand. Last time Paul used Jesus' words was at the infamous S.C. debate in a room full of "evangelicals". And he was booed for it.
Of course, the Lord said the world would hate His just as it hated Him. Feel the hate, Aaron?
Ryan| 2.6.13 @ 8:20AM
Paul was theologically incorrect in his use of the verse, or, at minimum, was FAR too specific in its application for a verse so broad and vague.
Tom Kyba| 2.6.13 @ 1:00PM
Coherence: 2. logical interconnection; overall sense or understandability. Dumbass, heal thyself.
spike59| 2.8.13 @ 5:51AM
Paul wasn't booed for using Christ's words; he was booed for blatantly exploiting Christ's words to justify kissing the arse of terrorists...and why, pray tell, would he do this? because the terrorists hate us? no, because, like RonPaul, the terrorists hate Israel...
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 7:37AM
I read Chris Kyle's book and found it to be an inspirational account of how one man's desire to serve his country and do the right thing took him on the journey where he happened to use his skills to kill many of those identified as his nation's enemies, saving the lives of his fellow American and allied warriors. As Walter Brennan used to say in "The Guns of Will Sonnett" TV series, "No brag, just fact".
I think a Congress full of Chris Kyles (or even only one) would be far superior to a Congress full of Ron Pauls. I also believe a military full of Chris Kyles would be far superior to a military full of Ron Pauls, and would posit that Kyle saved more American lives during his military tour with his sniping than Paul did in his military tour with his doctoring.
Quartermaster| 2.6.13 @ 9:51AM
Ron Paul misapplied the passage, but it was not a smear. Klein is reaching for a "bridge too far" just as Paul has from time to time. Klein is being an idiot here.
jay0718| 2.6.13 @ 9:53AM
Very fitting that you quote the almighty Glenn Beck who smeared 911 widows. I am one of the thousands of former Marines who donated to Ron Paul's campaign when he beat the pants out of all of his neocon opponents in donations from military members and families. Am I correct when looking at your bald, pathetic appearance that you never picked up an M16 your entire life? Keep living vicariously through Navy Seals like Chris Kyle, Chickenhawk.
Tom Kyba| 2.6.13 @ 12:56PM
Correction: you're one of the many unbalanced pill poppers who pretends to be a former marine.
You're welcome.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 4:05AM
So the troops are heroes as long as they believe in neo-con foreign policy. Once they become disillusioned with that they become "unbalanced pill poppers". It's thinking like that, that's going to keep the Republican party out of power for a very, very long time.
Crassus| 2.6.13 @ 2:08PM
Wear your war wound like a crown, dirtbag.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 4:11AM
Hero if they agree with the wars they've fought, DIRTBAG if they don't or question to much. Zeig Heil there Crassus. The fact that many folks here don't believe that you can be a Republican and/or conservative and disagree with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan just goes to show how the conservative cause has been hijacked by neo-conservatives and their corporate masters. It's time to think outside the box. It's time to read in between the lines. I will give the liberals hell when they deserve it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give self proclaimed conservatives a pass.
Bob Grant| 2.6.13 @ 12:08PM
Anytime Mr. Paul and others of his ilk (Like John "Reporting For Duty Sir" Kerry) begin their sentences with "As a veteran,...", get ready for an attack on our military or it's members.
As though Mr. Paul's service to it gives him moral justification to attack it's members, the people running it, or how it's run.
He's a Doctor who happened to serve our country for several years but his expertise in the military in general is no more broad than any other who served in a limited capacity.
As a non-veteran who fully supports our military and it's endeavors, I say Ron Paul has inflicted more damage on our military by his words and actions as a congressman, and ex-congressman, than anything he contributed while serving.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 5:24PM
Dr. Paul has done immense harm to our country.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 4:01AM
How has he done that Occam? Before the Cold War, Paul's non-interventionism was the dominant foreign policy of the Republican Party. Now the Cold War has been over for 20 years and our foreign policy has changed from containment of Communism to neo-imperialistic gunboat diplomacy and the continuation of the Cold War footing with Moscow and Beijing. How has the average American benefited from those policies. Why is it so dangerous to entertain the notion that 9/11 happened not because they hate us for our freedom, but because in 1990 we bombed and invaded our former Arab ally (Iraq), erected bases in the Muslim holy land of Saudi Arabia, imposed strict sanctions on Iraq that may have been responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqis and continued to support Israel financially and militarily as well as autocratic Arab rulers that would do our bidding despite the oppression of their own populations.
What is so radical about the idea that those things led to 9/11 when it was those very things that Osama Bin Laden listed in his declaration of war against the United States and the West in the late 1990's? You seem like you're intelligent Occam, can you see why I hold the views that I do?
Quartermaster| 2.7.13 @ 9:52AM
Mr. Tool is merely a Quisling troll. He's a Franken supporter and is best ignored.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:34AM
Dmitry: very simply, we cannot win against militant Islam by burying our heads in the sand, as Rand Paul has stated. That path led, when applied to Communism, to the Korean War.
As for Al Franken, I don't care for most of his policies. But if he makes it easier to treat the violently mentally ill, I will support him as that is my calling in life. However, I tend to doubt that he will. If what I expect to see happens, I will be voting for the other guy.
But, again, if he manages to reverse Riese Versus St. Mary's, that would be quite an achievement.
QM: The likelihood of a Conservative winning in MN is small anyway. We chose Kurt Bills over Pete Hegseth, for goodness sakes. Now, if Pete goes against Franken, consider my comments null and void. But I expect another non-entity will be nominated by this pathetic stste party.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:36AM
Dimitry: this is where we disagree: I think those madmen ARE suicidal, in the right circumstances.
By the way: "State party."
Incidentally, Franken IS a strong supporter of the military.
Tom Kyba| 2.6.13 @ 12:53PM
Good riddance to Mr. MaGoo.
Bandido| 2.6.13 @ 1:17PM
Ron Paul is a dead ringer for the googly-eyed, giggling, head-bopped, seeing-stars, goofy gremlin in Gremlins 2 the New Batch. Same quality of ideas, also.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.6.13 @ 2:14PM
Glenn Beck is a psychopath who would enthusiastically lead this nation into WWIII believing Armageddon was at hand. If Glenn Beck was President of the United States there would be little difference between him and apocalyptic views that Ahmadinijead supposedly holds.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 5:39PM
I am not a fan of Glenn Beck, and I don't listen to his show, or frequent his site. I do seem to recall, though, prior to March of 2003 (on the few occasions when I was traveling and his show was about the only thing on the radio), that he had many reservations about going into Iraq, and largely advised against the war at that time.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.6.13 @ 10:48PM
Even if he had reservations about Iraq he has had no reservations in letting the world know that he believes that Russia and Iran are going to join together to attack Israel which in the case of Iran is unlikely (it more likely Israel will attack Iran) and is ludicrous to think Russia would attack Israel. End times fear mongering is dangerous especially here in the USA where evangelicals do have considerable political clout.
Quartermaster| 2.7.13 @ 9:56AM
Many of us old Cold Warriors thought going into Iraq was a bad idea. For our trouble we had court Jester the Little Frummer Boy, tell us how unpatrotic we were. Many of us put our lives on the line in WW2, Korea and Vietnam, while the idiotic Frum never served in the US Military or Canadian forces. Frum is less than nothing, yet the GOP establishment lined up behind him and cheered him on. Frum is the classic example of a Chicken hawk.
TNcracker | 2.6.13 @ 8:55PM
You obviously have never listened to his show. He is a strong supporter of the military, and the last two days has called for them to be brought home, because the war in Afghanistan no longer makes any sense. If you do not see Ahmagivinablojob as the threat that he is, you are the one who needs psychiatric help.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 3:44AM
The reason Ahmadinijead doesn't bother me is that he has to tow the line of the ruling Shia clerics in Iran and believe me the Ayatollah Khomeini and his top clerics are anything but crazy or suicidal. They are extremely shrewd and seek geopolitical domination in the region. Lets forget about Israel for a second and remember that there's nothing the House of Saud (the royal family of the Wahhabist state of Saudi Arabia) fears more than the Islamic Republic of Iran. If this was not so then you wouldn't have diplomatic cables from the royal family to the US State Department urging the US to "cut the head off the snake" in regards to Iran. The Saudis have even gone so far as to give Israel a green light to use their airspace in a future attack on Iran. Keep in mind that this is the same Saudi Arabia that is the biggest financier of Sunni Islamist terrorism throughout the world (financed almost entirely with US petrol dollars).
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.6.13 @ 2:08PM
What cannot be disputed is that Chris Kyle, Chad Littlefield and the veteran with PTSD who pulled the trigger Eddie Ray Routh were ALL casualties of American wars abroad. Had we heeded the foreign policy wisdom of Ron Paul in the past and not invaded Iraq (and not stayed a dozen years in Afghanistan) then it is quite possible Kyle and Littlefield would be alive and Routh would not be a war veteran suffering from PTSD.
Crassus| 2.6.13 @ 2:11PM
Wow! The Paultards are once again out in force to defend their heroic leader. Who started that rumor that the Paul movement was dead?
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 3:37AM
Paultards? The last time I checked it wasn't Ron Paul type Republicans who gave us Barrack Hussein Obama it was eight years of George W. Bush and his neo-con cabinet, two endless quagmires in the Middle East that cost us at least 1.4 trillion (a lot of which was syphoned off by the Vice President's pals at Halliburton), the loss of Constitutional freedoms with the introduction of Patriot Act I and II, the crash of 2008 and the subsequent bailout of the banking system while average American citizens got the shaft by those same banks and their homes were foreclosed upon.
It was exactly 8 years of Bush and his administration that led to the election of Barrack Hussein Obama and the rejection of Romney last November.
aware| 2.7.13 @ 5:57AM
Only because the neocon scum like you are doing what they do best. Slavish support for the organized murder expeditions of the State while staying as far from danger as they can. The bravest flag wavers around.
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:25AM
Who started that rumor that the Paul movement was dead?
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well, it SMELLED like something dead, so we all just assumed...
Quartermaster| 2.7.13 @ 10:00AM
That smell was your ideology. It has the smell of death, because death is what is at its core.
spike59| 2.8.13 @ 5:54AM
try reading that out loud without laughing yourself silly...then ride off on your pink unicorn, Libtard
Slacker| 2.6.13 @ 2:22PM
Two weeks ago Chris Kyle’s killer was also a “hero”. That is until he killed a famous “super-duper hero”. See the irony you stupid neocons?
This is what you get…and it is only going to get worse. It's not Ron Paul's fault...
Occam's Tool| 2.6.13 @ 5:17PM
He was, until he merited the title no more. Previously good people can do bad things.
Ron Paul was always a scumbag.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 3:22AM
The Vet who pulled the trigger is also a casualty of war wouldn't you agree Occam? He didn't get PTSD from playing video games. People with that disorder can snap.
Quartermaster| 2.7.13 @ 10:04AM
Now, now. The Tool is a shrink. You would think he'd know all this stuff.
Shamefully, Franken has scratched the Tool's back, and he now supports Franken. Alas, being a member of the profession that has done much to give us Newtown will shrink from nothing when it comes to justifying themselves, or demonizing anyone that disagrees with them.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:38AM
I'm sorry? I'm with the profession that tries to stop Newtowns by medicating dangerous psychotics. It is the ACLU that creates Newtowns.
The Vet who pulled the trigger was twisted by war, yes. Probably also not taking his meds correctly, either.
aware| 2.7.13 @ 6:00AM
Hey O. do you take PTSD sufferers to the gun range for therapy? Rapists to strip clubs?
There's no such thing as "good" people. Thinking there are gets you killed.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:55AM
There is no problem in taking PTSD victims caused by rape to gun ranges. In this case, I don't know what caused this fellow's PTSD. But, in some cases of severe anxiety, exposure therapy is good. You would want to have an overall sense of the person's potential for violence. This may not have been done, here. In addition, medication compliance may not have been evaluated. There may not have been a professional involved with this, which would have been Mr. Kyle's mistake.
But, you know, psychiatrists can also be assaulted by patients, too. This is not precise enough, here.
Rapists to strip clubs is moronic, of course. But your overall logic doesn't jell.
Finally, Mr. Kyle served his country well. Much better than Dr. Paul. He deserves to be remembered with respect. When RCV is doing a better job showing respect to Vets than "Conservatives," we have a problem, and it doesn't lie with RCV.
timmycav| 2.6.13 @ 2:50PM
ron pauls tweet may have been a little ill-timed and a little too deep for most to understand but to completely write him off is ludicrous. he could have won the republican nomination had he taken the advice of just about every establishment talking head by changing his views of foreign policy. every single republican said they liked ron pauls domestic policy but hated his foreign policy. translated - they didnt give a crap about the troops ! ron paul did and stood by the troops no matter what slander and lies they tried to pin on him. he deserves more than how easily hes being dismissed by a tweet thats limited in text size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WrzwtHJl5E
Bob Grant| 2.6.13 @ 3:36PM
"...a little too deep for most to understand ..."
Would you mind educating this simple soul, sir? I'm just a simple caveman. Your words confuse and frighten me.
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:30AM
"he could have won the republican nomination had he"....killed EVERY other member of the GOP
here's the drill, Scooter...the Tinfoil Hat Messiah, hero of the Birchers and the Neo-Nazis, and scribbler of antisemitic, homophobic, and racist rants on his conspiracy theory-laden 'news'letter, had ZERO shot of ever winning the Presidential nomination of ANY major party at ANY time-what amazes me is that anyone with an IQ above room temperature in Fairbanks actually fell for his drivel
Quartermaster| 2.7.13 @ 10:07AM
To call those articles in his newsletter "racist rants" marks you as one of two things, an individual with very low reading comprehension and who is nekulturny, or a leftist liar. In your case, it's probably a lot of both.
Those articles were not PC, but they were certainly not racist.
spike59| 2.8.13 @ 5:58AM
to defend those idiotic newsletters (which even The Tinfoil Hat Tinghorn has tried, without success, to disavow AFTER banking the money he made from the suckers) marks you as an utter dullard, someone who should not be allowed out of your mommy's basement, lest you get your cheetos-encrusted hands on a pair of sharp scissors
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:39AM
Yeah, they were racist. Otherwise, he wouldn't have backpedalled that quickly away from them.
The man did his training at Duke in the 1960s, I believe.
Frog in Uniform | 2.6.13 @ 7:56PM
Please Messieurs, behave! An American hero was betrayed and murdered by a fellow American he was trying to help and this is the heart of the matter. No need to discuss whether the wars you mentioned were justified or not, they were your Country's wars and you should stand by your Country and his military men, no matter what and express your opinions in the ballot box. Chris Kyle was not responsible for your country's foreign policy, he was just doing his job with the dedication that comes with a deep sense of duty. People like Ron Paul have a very biased and mistaken view of what sniping and selected marksmanship really are. This is not a job for assassins or psychos, it requires equanimity, brains, stability and patience. In this line of work there is no room for hateful, agressive and violent people. These are usually the dregs that are used as cannon fodder whereas sniper applicants are carefully selected and screened among low key guys who are married and value human life, with deep moral sense and religious beliefs. That's the way it's being done in my Frogland and I'm convinced it's the same in your US of A. Outstanding men like Alvin York, Carlos Hathcock or Donald Reinke are legendary examples even in my corner of the world.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.6.13 @ 9:40PM
My government (United States government) dropped bombs on my Orthodox Christian brothers and sisters in Serbia in the 90's for defending their own land. My government supported a Georgian nationalist idiot in 2008 (Saakashvilli) who sparked a conflict where fraternal Orthodox blood was spilled. My government is currently supporting Sunni Islamist rebels in Syria who are murdering my Arab Orthodox Christian brothers in Syria this very day. For some men religion is nothing and they have no religious loyalties then for some men like myself it is everything. The Serbian Orthodox homeland of Kosovo was stolen by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and they threatened to do the same in Macedonia on behalf of Albanian terrorists. Yes I have some deep seated bones to pick with my government and its foreign policy and I don't care if I appear disloyal because I am loyal to my God and I am loyal to my Church and I am loyal to my Orthodox Christian brothers and sisters and that's all that matters.
Bandido| 2.7.13 @ 8:13AM
And now you will walk on thewater.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:43AM
No, it isn't, Dimitry. You are inconsistent in what you support, and this will lead to much more suffering for your Christian brothers.
I happen to think that Clinton's support of Muslims against Christians was an atrocity, by the way. I think supporting the rebels in Syria will also be an atrocity, for your same reasons.
But, if you are opposed to the Islamist persecution of Christians than your failure to support Israel becomes mysterious.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.13.13 @ 3:32PM
Occam tell me you are not loyal to your God, and fellow Jews and your family above anything else? You're loyalty to Israel comes directly to the loyalty you feel to your religion and your people just as my sympathies toward Russia and Serbia have to do with me being Russian Orthodox.
My reasons for not supporting Israel is that Israel was built upon on Arab land (where there were not only Arab speaking Muslims, but Christians and Jews as well) and made into an almost exclusive Jewish state and those Palestinians and their children who were made refugees have absolutely no right of return. Given history I understand why Jews feel the need for a safe haven, but I think it should have been (and it should have been welcomed by Americans) in the United States instead of in Palestine where creating a Jewish state was guaranteed to create conflict for generations.
Occam's Tool| 3.23.13 @ 3:54PM
So, you oppose Sunni Islamists but you oppose Israel. Just as you are a Conservative who voted Democratic.
The Jews have had ties to the land of Israel much longer than your people have had toes to their land. They BOUGHT their land, and then were attacked, including by the Palestinians. However, many, many Arabs were not pushed out, and there are 1 million Israli Arabs in a country of 7 million total. Hardly an exclusive Jewish state.
You have some decent ideas Dmitry, but you must strive for consistency.
Incidentally, I supported the Christians against the Muslims in that war, and thought Clinton was out of his skull.
By the way, you live on land stolen from Indians and Mexicans. Enjoy.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.13.13 @ 3:38PM
With that said, you know I am an outspoken opponent of the Sunni Islamists. As for the Shia Islamists at this point in time we have a situation in Syria where Shia are protecting Christians from Sunni Islamists. During WWII the many Zionists in Palestine volunteered to fight for the British against the Nazis because it was in their best interest at the time even though many now wanted the British occupation of Palestine to end so they could officially create the Jewish state. I think it is absolutely in the best interest of Christians in the Middle East at this time to maintain good relations and sometimes even an alliance with the Shia powers in the region for protection against the rising Sunni Islamists.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:50AM
Frog: you are, as usual, superb. Would it only be that you were your country's leader.
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:21AM
"former Congressman and GOP presidential hopeless Ron Paul"
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there-fixed it for ya
Commander Kelly | 2.7.13 @ 6:39AM
Good point. See my post "Good Riddance Ron Paul" only here...
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Quartermaster| 2.7.13 @ 10:12AM
You need to get a proper foundation in US history before writing bilge such as your post on Lincoln. First Lincoln was at the foundaing convention of the GOP, but he was not a "founder" as such. he was just there. Second, there is nothing "complex" about the war of northern aggression. Lincoln fought his illegal war to maintain his vewi of US emprire and keep the south as the economic colony of his new England handlers.
We would not be here we are as a country without Lincoln. Obama is the dread result of Lincoln's leftistism. He was anything but a conservative.
MOS was 71331| 2.8.13 @ 1:17PM
Bravo, Quartermaster. Had Lincoln allowed the southern states to secede -- as was their right as sovereign states -- there would have been no US civil war. Slavery would probably have died a natural death, though I can't guess when.
The only positive result of Lincoln's election I can think of is the US acquisition of Alaska. Had the area been in Soviet hands, the "Cold War" might have ended with a Soviet victory.
RCV| 2.7.13 @ 12:18PM
Ron Paul is, and has been for a long time, a despicable America-hater and apologist for terrorist regimes. His attack on this American war hero, whose only "crime" was trying to help his fellow vets, was appalling. And this is the guy the GOP held a tribute for at their convention. And you wonder why you guys lost!
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 2.7.13 @ 3:37PM
So anyone who questions the wisdom of undermining, fomenting revolution, bombing and/or invading any sovereign nation Washington DC sees fit is an "American Hater"? I said all ready that his statement was insensitive and probably unwise given the timing of it, but that doesn't mean it was an "attack" on Chris Kyle. The reason the GOP lost is their neo-con foreign policy and the American public's perception (that's not far from the truth) that the mainstream GOP are the whores of Wall Street and big international corporations.
Occam's Tool| 2.10.13 @ 3:49AM
You know, you get a real feel for QM when he smashes Lincoln.
Without the Federal Union prevailing in the Civil war, the USA would have been replaced by a series of weak, squabbling, balkanized states, easy pickings for European Empire subjugation.
Please name a country that you would have be the dominant military power in the world in place of the USA at this time. There WILL be one, you see. We do NOT live in a world of pure idealism of any sort. Power and force always have a dominant place.
And that is the problem I have with your view, Dimitry. I happen to agree with you that Christians are persecuted by Muslims, and that this should stop. But to win against 1.6 Billion scum you need allies. Kicking them in the face (as you do vis-a-vis Israel) will not help you. My suggestion is to resolve your inconsistencies.
You will find most of the pro-Israel community thought Clinton's war was moronic.
Mike W| 2.7.13 @ 12:24PM
I listened to that little crybaby Beck on the radio not knowing what Paul said. From Beck hysterics I thought it was something heinous. Then it turns out to just be this. He had the nerve to call the Iraq war unconstitutional. I don't know about that but I will call it an un-needed pile of crap.
The Iraq war was a Republican screw up of a generation. It set the country back and put B.O. in power. What Paul said was not that bad.
Fat faced little jerks like Beck have never seen service but they are experts at all things patriotic.
On top of all that, his show is simply un-listenable tripe. I simply can't stand his insipid frat boy bs format. I am surprised he hasn't lost listeners for that reason alone.
MOS was 71331| 2.8.13 @ 1:28PM
I consider myself a strong defense libertarian, and I generally prefer Rand Paul's foreign policy of isolationism. That was the predominant US foreign policy for much of our history, and it served us well.
It would be hard to go back to isolationism, and I'd prefer it to include using a global navy to ensure freedom of the seas. Unfortunately a global navy would require overseas bases mostly located in foreign countries. Those countries would have to be allies, and we'd have to somehow "encourage" them to be reliable allies. And there goes our isolationist foreign policy.