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Once again, some compelling and straightforward observations from Philadelphia Archbishop Chaput on a most pressing issue of our time – ”…an issue of treating people with dignity and understanding that they’ve made a contribution to the common good and therefore that can’t be rejected because they’re here illegally.”
But wouldn’t Los Angeles Archbishop Gómez’s remarks here be more persuasive if delivered in English?
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RCV| 10.30.12 @ 12:55PM
Believe it not, sir, a great number if not a majority of Bishop Gomez's flock speak Spanish. I assume you didn't mind when John Paul II addressed Poles in Polish, did you?
Truth to Power| 10.30.12 @ 3:58PM
It depends on to whom he is trying to make a point. Was he only speaking to his flock? I don't think that is where this was aimed. If he was giving well deserved lectures to the Mexican government and citizenry on treating their immigrants better it would be the right language choice. For attempting to change the minds of Americans, including many of Mexican ancestry, English might be a better choice. RCV is a total reactionary. There are no signs of thought anymore. By the way moveon has come out with a barely human political advertisement where some very cool older people use very vulgar language to threaten violence if the election doesn't work out the way they want. I am sure that the very sensitive RCV will scurry over and correct the lower than human attempt at discourse. After all we think of him as a troll but over at moveon he is an associate and his opinion will be valued. Say hi to the pretend family, phony boy.
Trinacria| 10.30.12 @ 4:56PM
"I assume you didn't mind when John Paul II addressed Poles in Polish, did you?"
I rather suspect he didn't, just as I didn't mind when JPII addressed Americans in English. It would, however, be a different matter if he chose to address Poles in Russian.
You see, sport, that's the problem with flawed analogies; they're...well...FLAWED!
Bob K| 10.30.12 @ 4:27PM
Wlady,
They have made their points. In English and in a translation to same. Now what is your point?
There is a problem with the rule of law in the matter of illegal immigration. Archbishop Chaput makes that clear and he says to ignore the law in some, if not all, of these circumstances.
What do you say? What is National Review's position on this matter?
Trinacria| 10.30.12 @ 5:21PM
It is curious that the Archbishop (having fallen for the social justice canard hook, line and sinker) chooses to aim his criticism at the country to which these immigrants are running rather than the countries from which they have fled.
If the archbishop were serious about justice, perhaps he'd be rather more courageous in admonishing the true perpetrators of injustice; namely, the notoriously corrupt governments of countries that have so profoundly neglected their own citizens that they have compelled them to violate the laws of another sovreign state in order to seek opportunity.
Finally, the archbishop's pedantic world view fails to account for the harm done to those who are patiently waiting in line to enter legally by those who have no regard for them nor the laws of the country which they seek to enter. Such a profoundly simplistic view of "justice" ill-befits a representative of an institution with a long history of serious thinkers.
C Bowen | 10.30.12 @ 4:34PM
This guy thinks Amnesty is the most pressing issue of our time? Is this suppose to be satire?
KittyAmerica| 10.30.12 @ 4:57PM
What about the common good of the citizens who are already here? The ones whose ancestors established and built this country?
Crime, immorality and misery are all that third -worlders have contributed to my state of Texas.
We can not expect to hand over a civilization to a people who had no part in building it nor have any interest in preserving.
btims86| 10.30.12 @ 6:17PM
Forget it Kitty, we Americans don't matter. All that the religious and political and media elites care about are foreigners, especially the holy, hard working, virtuous Laaaaatinos.
Only Latinos have a high incidence of criminality, out of wedlock birth, identity theft, income tax evasion, alcohol use, shall I continue?
geronl| 10.30.12 @ 6:21PM
Illegal immigrants being able to get any sort of public services is immoral theft from the public.
Quartermaster| 10.30.12 @ 11:06PM
We can, and should, reject anyone that entered our country illegally. Even if they did contribute, their illegal entry renders all that moot.
Chaput has apparently never read the Pauline Epistles. Paul had a much different opinion on the secular law than the "good" Bishop does.
Mick Lee| 10.31.12 @ 6:47AM
How is it that I have a feeling that if illegals came and voted Republican our bishops would become advocates for law and order and call for immediate protection of national sovernty?