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The Spectacle Blog
The deadline passed for Todd Akin to easily get out of the race in Missouri, without Akin giving the slightest clue that he is a sentient human being. The man makes Walter Mitty look like a realist. He is hurting the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the country, and the causes of life and liberty. Having already shown himself both hopelessly ignorant and bizarrely insensitive, he hasn’t left himself much room to avoid such a perfection of the trait of asininity that said asininity ranks up there with the 4-minute mile and the first conquest of Everest as monuments to the human capacity for surpassing previous frontiers. Too bad that his frontier is one that no reasonable human would ever aspire to.
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Bob Grant| 8.21.12 @ 10:45PM
A month ago this seat was all but over, Put a fork in it, sayonara, vios con dios, turn out the lights...
I've watched Mr. Akin's handiwork at committee hearings and at times seems reasonable but at times will say things that make you scratch your head. A smart man but perhaps not very disciplined in the art of politics. It makes you wonder how he became a perennial seat holder in his district.
Then again, how do Maxine Waters, John Conyers, or Hank Johnson get reelected. Ok, dumb question!
Now republicans have to make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.
Quin, is this possible?
Jake| 8.21.12 @ 11:43PM
Mark Levin said tonight that Missouri Republicans have no other choice
now , but , to support Akin.
I disagree. Let this jerk wither on the vine.
Akin is acting more and more like the leader of a cult rather than someone tethered to reality , so that's not a serious option.
I suppose he could have a full on mental break down and be forced to withdraw -but, really, how could you tell ?
Unless there's some legal escape clause allowing the Republicans to jettison this lunatic , I assume a write in campaign might be an option.
According to NRO , runners up Brunner and Steelman cannot be write ins .
Ashcroft and Bond's name are being bandied about ( too old ? ) and some others who apparently have good state credentials.
If the Republicans decided to field a write in candidate , they 'll have to spend money running ads against both Akin and McCaskill .
Or maybe they'll just cede the election to McCaskill and pour their resources into other Senatorial races.
LarryK| 8.22.12 @ 9:00AM
Everyone is missing the point! Mr. Akin juts needs to switch his party affiliation to "D" and all is well!
wombat1| 8.21.12 @ 11:52PM
Puts me in mind of Warren G Harding's cri de couer:
"I have no trouble with my enemies. I can take care of my enemies in a fight. But my friends, my goddamned friends, they're the ones who keep me walking the floor at night!"
Kingofthenet| 8.22.12 @ 12:50PM
Terrible President, but GREAT line...
Tom Kyba| 8.22.12 @ 1:01PM
Try applying that to your fellow cult members, it would do you good. But you won't.
Mender| 8.22.12 @ 5:58AM
We should just stop talking about this. Opposing abortion in cases of rape is one of the least publicly popular views in the GOP platform, and reminding people of it may be a major turn-off.
As I've also pointed out before, the longer it spends in national debate, the greater the chance that someone else will say something idiotic. Liberal blog Gawker has twisted a Missouri GOP Committeewoman 's words so she seems to be claiming getting pregnant through rape is 'a blessing from God.' And Steve King has said that he's never heard of anyone underage getting pregnant through rape! (Hint for Mr. King: Google 'youngest documented pregnancies wikipedia'. Did you know that the US record is 9 years old?). The less time our klutzier people spend having people ask them about this the better, I think.
Mimi | 8.22.12 @ 6:58AM
Rape pregnancies are Few and rare....Why are we even talking about this....another Dem manufactured issue to keeep us off the real stuff like his record. They also should be called out, on all the time wasting and their idiotic habit of getting gone our Senators like they "MACKAWKIED" George Allen...and we FALL for this nonsense all the time...Get more Snarky GOP! For all we know, we could get tons of Senators elected ....or Todd Akin could win his seat...Who knows what will happen?
The Guy read some articles in the 70's that had a theory about the female chemically being able to prevent pregnancy durin Rape...There were always theories and they were just that...He should have been up to date on his SEX ED.
I hope the next time a DEM slips up....WE POUNCE! & DEMAND RESIGNATION!
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 11:35AM
That's just false, Mimi. Tens of thousands of rape victims become pregnant every year.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 12:04PM
What? In the Western Hemisphere? Cite your sources.
DRed| 8.22.12 @ 12:13PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8765248
JP| 8.22.12 @ 1:44PM
The stats say that 5% of all rape victims get pregneant.But, it also said that the vast majority came from statutory rape (a minor can never give consent and therefore the man is considered a rapist).
Mimi | 8.22.12 @ 3:11PM
The study is from...1996 Try again thats 16 years ago this month....What do you have thats recent and relevant!
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 3:43PM
Do YOU have anything more recent to demonstrate any change, Mimi?
DRed| 8.22.12 @ 3:59PM
RCV, don't you know that women have gotten better at shutting that whole thing down in the last 16 years?
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 12:25PM
Darcy, it is just the latest distraction from the real issues. Sadly it is working. Akin has likely cost the GOP this Senate seat and probably MOs' electoral votes as well which could determine the election itself.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 1:46PM
I think, Al Adab, there's going to be a huge backlash against the manipulation and machinations by the left to rob Missouri of their duly elected nominee.
Moreover, the Republican establishment had better be very careful here: The one thing that animates the Tea Party more than anything else is the idea that it doesn't matter how well they organize, fund, and staff their efforts to effect rollback of the statist project that they will be sabotaged by DC elites and the establishment, as witnessed in the 2010 victory when MANY Tea Party congressional rookies were TURNED by Boehner et al.
There is a slow burning rage building within the conservative movement that the establishment dismisses at its peril.
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 1:58PM
...and the results of that "slow-burning rage" will be the same as they were in Delaware with the witch and in Nevada with Angle.
Occam's Tool| 8.22.12 @ 2:08PM
McCaskill is much weaker than Reid or the Delaware Dem. Watch and see. Obama's campaign is going to be hurt real bad, real soon. For one thing, he's going to condemn Bibi's assault on Iran. For second, unemployment and gas prices are going to go up.
Think of Romney as Marciano, and Obama as Archie Moore. Obama is outclassed.
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 3:14PM
If the assault occurs before November, he will not condemn it, and it will aid his reelection. Reid was toast before Angle won the nomination, and the Democrat in Delaware had identified himself as a "Marxist" in writing. Akin lost 10 percentage points in the polls in one day after his remarks; with the beating he's been getting from his own party leaders since then, he'll be lucky if he gets 40% in November.
Martin| 8.22.12 @ 7:40AM
First, given Akin's moral views, his views on abortion are logical, and were known to the primary electorate. Scientifically, there is a decline in pregnancy rates after rape, so Akin was correct, although he overstated it -- the decline appears to be only about 20%.
The party and the commentariat do not get to nullify primary results. Akin's criticism of Mitt Romney in this respect was correct. We have primaries because otherwise the party machine would fill every position with corrupt leftist timeservers like Charlie Crist and Lindsay Graham. Their results must be respected, even if they are sometimes electorally suboptimal.
Akin would be a fine Senator, immune to subornation from the media and the left. Missouri remains a near-lock for Romney/Ryan and highly winnable for Akin if the party gives him even reasonable backing. The commentariat and the party leaders (especially the loathsome Cornyn, who has an appalling track record) need to eat some crow and do so.
Occam's Tool| 8.22.12 @ 11:01AM
Does anyone recall the Dem Congressman who was worried about Guam tipping over? Hmmm?
If Akin's what we have, beat the Dem with it. He'll vote against ObamaCare and for pro-Life judges. Does he have criminal or personal fraud issues to worry about? No? Then let's make lemonade here. I think he can win.
Zeppo| 8.22.12 @ 11:47AM
The Guam-tipping guy was an affirmative action Congressman--totally different ballgame. Akin was not asked about Guam. He was asked about one of his core issues. How could he not be ready for it? Anyone with two neurons to rub together knows that this is highly contentious, emotionally charged topic. And there are so many useful things that he could have said. Never mind whether his answer was "insensitive;" it was weird and dumb. As a strongly pro-life conservative, my respect for him instantly fell through the floor.
Like other posters here, I sort of like him just based on the enemies he has made. But c'mon, he is completely radioactive at this point. You honestly think he can win?
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 1:46PM
What about the Dem Congessman who was caught in flagrante with a 17 year old boy just a couple days ago? Heard much about that?
Occam's Tool| 8.22.12 @ 2:08PM
Actually, Zeppo, yes I think he can.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 1:49PM
"[L]oathsome Cornyn," you got that right, Martin.
Ryan| 8.22.12 @ 8:31AM
It appears that Akin's apology has gone over well with grassroots in Missouri, and he was so far ahead in the polls that there is PLENTY of time to make up the ground.
He also put himself in an enviable position if he wins - he doesn't owe the party ANYTHING.
Also, this is a complete distraction that the left and the media (but I repeat myself) are taking advantage of, and the mainstream and conservative leadership are falling for it.
Not supporting or condemning, but just stating some political realities.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 1:24PM
You know what? That's a great point: "he doesn't owe the party ANYTHING."
If ever there were a man we need in the US Senate, it is a man who owes his position to the people -- not to the DC elites who have brought us to the very brink. That's probably what they see in him that has them hanging him out to dry.
Teflon93 | 8.22.12 @ 8:59AM
He's spent a lot of money, won the primary, and has a poll stuffed by Democrats to justify his delusions.
Indy| 8.22.12 @ 9:19AM
I'm with the Professor, MD may be a long shot but with a great candidate, I'd rather float a few bucks his way and spend time making calls for someone I can believe in - Dan Bongino
http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....-momentum/
Bob K| 8.22.12 @ 9:27AM
Did anyone offer to pay him back his investment in money to run in this race, or at least some of it, if he would get out? It's too late for that now I guess. He has nothing to lose by staying in and a lot to gain if he pulls it out.
It costs an awful lot of money these days to run for offices like these. Talking about his selfishness for not quitting sounds like cheap talk now.
Grzmlyk| 8.22.12 @ 9:38AM
1.
My, my my.
He said one incredibly stupid thing. I have no doubt that he's a bloody fool, and what he said is unfathomable.
But where is the conservative hue and cry over most of what Joe Biden says? What much of what Obama has said? I haven't seen this kind of monolithic outrage over any of that; that's just the way Dems are, I guess, and we have to accept it.
What did Akin DO to merit our collective desire to tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail? Did I see such stories about his unfitness for office last week? I did not. Everyone was content with the status quo then.
Again, I'm not defending what he said - it is jaw-droppingly stupid. But is he an egregiously lousy politician or incompetent man? He did win the nomination, did he not? I haven’t heard any moaning about his unacceptability before this. By our collective yelping now to obliterate this guy, we are conceding the boundaries of the playing field to liberals - we are saying, how DARE one of ours say something so insensitive about - gasp - women! We are, in fact, bending over backward to show Democrats that we are not the benighted, medieval chauvinists they take us for; that we can rush to the defense of women's issues just as impulsively, and with just as much faux outrage, as any garden-variety liberal.
Grzmlyk| 8.22.12 @ 9:38AM
2.
My dismay is not about Akin; it's about the ludicrousness of Republicans today - they tell the Democrats that, ok, you can define the debate, you can set the terms, you can pick the playing field, you can dictate the boundaries, you can make the rules, you can hire your own referees - and then they are shocked! Shocked! That they keep losing elections.
Bob K| 8.22.12 @ 9:49AM
Amen to that!
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 12:28PM
GRZ:
You got it right. This is just the latest distraction to keep the debate away from actual significant (legitimate) issues. As we were saying yesterday, this likely will cost the GOP this Senate seat, MOs' electoral votes and possibly the election itself.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 1:12PM
Same here, GRZ; my thoughts exactly.
Grzmlyk| 8.22.12 @ 1:42PM
Thanks (all):
Well, I think we're screwed, I think Romney is a RINO, and that even if he does win the presidency, it'll just be more "all government, all the time." Oh, I'm sure he'll move courageously to reduce our total unfundated liabilities from $222 trillion to $221 trillion. Yipee.
The only way this will ever change is if we get hold of a critical mass of the popular culture - Hollywood, the newspapers (not so much dying, as convervative wishful thinkging would have it, as undergoing a diaspora toward new, online outlets), education, etc. We need to alter the inertial momentum of the value architecture of this country.
(I mean have you gotten a load of the Girl Scouts lately?)
But that's not going to happen, sadly, so the best we can do run candidates who are either faded copies of Democrats or else they run as conservatives and then transmogrify into RINOS once they go through the rabbit hole and enter Beltway-land. Yes, there are outliers. But the critical mass is moving in one direction, and it's to the left.
DRed| 8.22.12 @ 3:56PM
Laurence Kotiloff gets his 211 trillion by assuming no new workers enter the American economy. He counts the cost of, say, your social security benefits as unfunded. They're only going to be unfunded as long as nobody is paying social security taxes by the time you get old enough to collect benefits. And if nobody is paying social security taxes, you won't be getting any social security benefits, so don't worry about that being unfunded.
DRed| 8.22.12 @ 3:56PM
Excuse me-Kotlikoff
Crassus| 8.22.12 @ 9:52AM
Maybe some bimbo will come forward and say that Akin fathered her child. That might force him out of the race.
Occam's Tool| 8.22.12 @ 11:03AM
I bet he wins, and then tells Quin to kish mir tuchus.
Occam's Tool| 8.22.12 @ 11:09AM
Akin is pro-Israel, pro-Life, anti-ObamaCare, pro-defense and American power, anti-spending, pro-tax cuts. I think I'll donate to him, and I hope he wins.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 12:14PM
I just sent him $100 and a strong note of encouragement.
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 1:31PM
He'll need both.
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 11:23AM
Akin is just more good news for Democrats. With his ignorant remarks together with the new GOP
no-exceptions abortion platform, the GOP is already off-message. They are on the defensive with their unsellable social programs, instead of being on the offense with the economy. God bless 'em!
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 12:32PM
Right on the money. The entire echo chamber called for his dropping out. The dems asked for him to stay in.
He will be a drag on the rest of the campaign as HR3 and HR212 with Ryan's stink all over them will slowly waft into the nostrils of the sleeping electorate.
Every candidate will now have to pass the Akin test and whether they will vote for or against the identical wording in the GOP platform.
Tom Kyba| 8.22.12 @ 1:04PM
You two failed comedians would have a point if you had the testosterone to apply some standards to your side. But you don't.
RCV| 8.22.12 @ 1:30PM
The "distractions" will only grow as the campaign continues, and they stem from the fact of the obvious disconnect between Paul Ryan's conservatism and Mitt Romney's lack thereof. Ryan has already been forced to retreat from his Medicare voucher advocacy to accommodate Romney's position, and today he had to repudiate his previous only "forcible" rape exception views to conform to Romney. By November, he'll be unrecognizable as a conservative, and his integrity will be savaged beyond repair. This ticket is headed downhill fast.
MRD| 8.22.12 @ 12:04PM
Bill Krystol at the Weekly Standard has a few good thoughts on this. Maybe its time to people talk with Akin 1:1. His fervid denounciation at this point is counterproductive. It will not persuade Akin and is keeping the issue in the news. I would recall Quin that you supported Rick Santorum who also shared the view that if an unborn child is a human being than killing him/ her can not be justified even for a good reason. ( a view I agree with ) Even to ease the suffering of rape victims there must be another way. Of Course Sen Santorum was better at defending this position. There are others who do so eloquently including some who have been conceived just this way and whose mothers choose herocially to bear them. I agree Akin did a terrible job of making this case . He should step aside, Still Women tend to be pro-life overall, and at this point it is really the conservative punditry doing Obama the favor of talking about this. The public is more interested in what is going to happen to medicare. As a practical matter the real issue is whether Roe should stand or be eliminated. Most conservatives say Roe should go. At that point abortion would become an issue on which it would be restricted more or less as the moral consensus of the country dictates. Probably less restricted than those who are 100% pro-life would like, but much more than the unlimited industrial scale abortion on demand we have now.
Grzmlyk| 8.22.12 @ 12:26PM
I don't know much about Akin aside from this issue. But it kills me that there's this universal outrage that can only be assuaged by dumping him when, on any given day, there are 50 Democrats - Biden, Obama, Wasserman-Schultz, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, and on and on - who say things that are WAY more outrageous, fatuous, bigoted, hateful and foolish.
This hyper-sensitivity by the GOP to what he said because it's a "woman's issue" is right from the Democrat playbook. As I said yesterday, with enemies like us, the Dems don't need friends, because we always make their case for them. Limbaugh said it well yesterday (before he retreated into the establishment position): Dems circle the wagons, we circle the firing squad.
Medicare is another issue whereby we are conceding to liberalism that a welfare state is desirable - it's just that we'll manage it better (which is patently untrue; Ryan's plan is, indeed, fantasyland).
The foregoing are but two reasons why I believe that our trajectory is not going to change. The purpose of the GOP is not to shrink government and restore individual liberty - it is to hoodwink those few remaining Americans left who embrace those principles into believing they give a crap.
As for SCOTUS, Roe v. Wade will NEVER be overturned. It is enshrined in the concrete of stare decisis, and most SC judges end up on the liberal side of the bench anyway.
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 12:40PM
Perhaps the SC realizes that giving personhood to a creature INSIDE of another person has enormous unintended consequences for public policy.
Can a woman forced to carry an unwanted fetus be locked up? Can a woman forced to carry an unwanted fetus be forced to carry it beyond viability? Can a woman be charged with attempted murder for smoking or simply continuing a prescription drug regimen prescribed by a doctor? Most cancer drugs are a no-go for pregnant women.
Will fathers be compelled to offer support before the child is born?
Can these mothers apply for social assistance from the moment of conception?
Mississippi, in all their wisdom, voted down the Personhood scheme. If it cannot work there, then is absolutely has no place in the rest of the country.
Grzmlyk| 8.22.12 @ 12:53PM
It has nothing to do with any of that. It's stare decisis alone (see, judges are not supposed to legislate from the bench, which is what your litany of "reasons" would amount to).
As for your other balderdash, I find it rather amusing that you people think a fetus is just a mass of cells with no rights whatsoever - that is, up until the minute it's born.
Then it can declare as a Gaia-given RIGHT cradle-to-grave goodies including a high standard of living, cadillac health-care plans in which everything from manicures to gender reassignment surgery is covered, a beautiful, air-conditioned home, a vast wardrobe, all the food and drink its gluttonous hearts desires, transportation on demand, the latest cell phone, high-quality entertainment, free education, high-paying jobs and on and on and on and on.
Paid for, of course, by somebody who is not you.
Yup, you're a real moral hero.
JP| 8.22.12 @ 1:33PM
In 2004,Durbin called our soldiers in Iraq Nazis,and Kennedy compared them to the Taliban. Not a peep of outrage.
Akin's mistake was that he truly believed that somehow women can magically prevent conception when they are being brutalized. He makes all social conservatives look ridiculous. And you remember what Jack Wolz said in the Godfather about being seen as ridiculous?
Of course that's a one way street. Remember what Pelosi said about ObamaCare (we have to first pass it to see what's in it)? Or that Dem who thought Global Warming would cause Guam to flip into the Pacific? Or ALGORE and his Social Security lockboxes? And come to think of it, Atkin's remarks do not harm women anymore than the Kennedy/Dodd waitress sandwiches at Le Brassiere.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 12:12PM
I can't believe how eager the establishment has been to abandon Akin.
It's disgusting, and it's a lesson to ALL of us, a reminder, that had it not been for the utter fecklessness of the Republican Party, especially since the 60's, the left would not have, could not have dismantled our liberty to the extent it has nor spent us into crushing debt norheaped on our heads the repugnant and revolting MARXIST sexual revolution that has decimated America's character, not to mention her people's families.
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 12:49PM
More baloney.
The US was on track to eliminate debt by 2010 before Junior got his keys to the Presidential Palace and the Randian Greenspan endorsed the tax cut move.
RR was the first AND only divorced president, went to church one time in office and had astrologers and the cretin Graham running around the oval.
Nixon did not possess this repugnat sexual orientation when he did what he did.
Junior was a born-again friend of Bill W., and yet he went into two wars on a lie, didn't pay for them, and now we have 1000's of young men and women lining up at the VA. 30% of which are there for emotional and mental health.
Back under your rock. Be clearer when you describe the real malevolence in our culture.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 1:09PM
My comment still stands; your's is complete balderdash, no, not even that. It's rubbish, well-meaning, I'm sure, but rubbish in that you didn't really read what I wrote. F e c k l e s s Republican Party! What part of that went over your head?
Grzmlyk| 8.22.12 @ 2:08PM
Seems to me that real malevolence is smearing your perceived enemies by spreading third-rate propaganda and proven lies for the sole purpose of self aggrandizement. Tsk, tsk. Another liberal acting in his own ego's self interest.
Are you trying to engage in debate? Change minds? Hardly. Like all trolls, you are attempting to parade exhibitionistically what you mistakenly think is your own moral superiority (I would include intellectual superiority, but even you can't be that callow, can you?) - and you are doing so atop a vehicle that's made of nothing but lies, distortions, misapprehensions and wishful thinking. The classic leftist's ramshackle mind on display (on track to eliminate debt??? Hardy har har - you gotta get off the Krugman, man, it's rotting your brain).
The only think that holds your rickety raft together is your own misguided and undeserved vanity.
There's nothing so sad as vanity in the ugly.
pigdog| 8.22.12 @ 12:16PM
Rape is rape. It came on the scene early. Throughout history, the word itself implied a forcible act. Then the legal system gave us "statutory rape." Then the liberals gave us "date rape," "hate rape," "familial rape" and "marital rape." "Legitimate rape" is not in the liberal lexicon (though, among the feminists, the term perfectly describes what Bill did to Juanita). Is it surprising that a politician might trip on his tongue? Fortunately, academics in the Womyns' Studies Departments are working to simplify the definition of rape to: "sexual intercourse between male and female, especially in the case of married couples."
Thank God leading Republicans are calling on Akin to step down. We must rally around Romney, and drive Akin into the Ozarks, never to be seen or heard from again. Just be grateful that it is not worse. Imagine the embarrassment that Rick Santorum might cause if
he were to open his mouth at the convention.
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 12:51PM
HR3 and HR212 tell the true story of GOP dogma. Ryan's name is emblazoned on both.
Willard in pro-choice, and he should be campaigning on it.
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 12:29PM
Akin is repeating GOP doctrine word for word. To watch the spasms of dissent from the echo chamber is amusing as it exposes the deceit to the lowest levels of leadership.
The Dems now have a litmus test for all their opponents: Akin was a true adherent to GOP dogma, are you are you not a true conservative?
There will be more "I am not a witch" moments in the coming weeks. Cruz and that doofus in Indiana are next to the plate.
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 12:31PM
What dogma is that old man? The one that says my property may be taken and redistributed as the governing elites see fit?
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 1:01PM
No, the dogma that a person can be compelled to carry a child of a rapist. It is sickening on so many levels in modern society.
and yes, your property must be taken and redistributed for the betterment of the country that you have lived and benefitted from birth.
Leadership on any level requires a community sacrifice. The GOP tends to believe that people, including dogmatics like you, will line up to underwrite foreign expeditions, basic roads and basic services, as if we are somehow detached from the rest of a world that had figured out that 16th century civic management was dead and gone. Mobility settled it.
Willard has already demonstrated that he preferred to move his money out of the country he made it in, and not reinvest it in the country.
Now he is the nom and you debate me on dogma?
He is a governing elite, and he has chosen to escape.
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 1:09PM
Thank you for making it clear that central planners and government operatives know what is best for me..
From birth? LOL
JP| 8.22.12 @ 1:37PM
"No, the dogma that a person can be compelled to carry a child of a rapist. It is sickening on so many levels in modern society."
Yes, a woman gets raped; therefore we must kill the child! Please, just don't tell that to Rebecca Kiessling. She would most probably see your objections as offensive if not outright cruel.
pigdog| 8.22.12 @ 2:09PM
Here is Mrs. Kiessling's website:
http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/index.html
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 2:11PM
Let us conreast the Virginia Declaration of Rights with Cannucistani dogma shall we?
"...all men are born free and independent and have certain inherent natural rights, of which they cannot by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; among which are the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."
If I were to chose as I have), I would not follow Cannuci.
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 3:36PM
JP:
For the record, would not standard medical treatment following rape include a D&C? I believe it would. Any medical Drs out there who can reply?
Ryan| 8.22.12 @ 2:54PM
Are children born of rape any less human than the rest of us?
aware| 8.22.12 @ 12:32PM
Akin couldn't possibly do more damage to what's left of conservatism than you neo cons have done, Quin.
canuckistani| 8.22.12 @ 1:01PM
"Conservatism" has never existed. That is the joke.
Al Adab| 8.22.12 @ 1:13PM
Read Russell Kirk, The Conservative Mind. Read Burke, Locke... oh well, that would take effort wouldn't it. Read Eric Hoffer, The True Believer.
Kingofthenet| 8.22.12 @ 12:41PM
Gold told him to run, so Obviously God HATES Republicans even more than Fags.
Tom Kyba| 8.22.12 @ 1:14PM
Funny how you hypocracy detectors apply your skills(?) to only one side of the debate. This means you don't subscribe to any broader philosophy, you just play this game to buttress your own beliefs, or can we assume you boys are also all over Huffpost et al giving them the what for as well. No? Then why is it you need to come here for an intellectual challenge? It's because there is no intellectual challenge on your side isn't it? Chickens.
Kingofthenet| 8.22.12 @ 1:31PM
I am not real fond of 'Circle Jerks', to me discussing political issues with people who agree with me is boring.I spend PLENTY of time on HP, but prefer to engage in real debate.I look at it like our work in Afghanistan, every now and than we can win some 'hearts and minds' but mostly I just have to KILL,(Your Bad Ideas)
JP| 8.22.12 @ 1:59PM
You really believe that you can debate anything on the net? I've read the HuffPo "debates", and see no diff from here other than people like to enage in more cut and paste wars. Boring.
Kingofthenet| 8.22.12 @ 2:31PM
Yeah usually everyone comes in with various false info, exaggerations and outright lies, but every now and than you can get a REAL debate going.
JP| 8.22.12 @ 1:25PM
Part of the blame lies with the Missouri GOP,which allows for cross-party voting. Akin is all that is wrong with today's politics. And it isn't just with the so-called "value" voters or politicians. The professional politician is usually a man or woman of low intelligence- almost all lack wisdom . Their careers are usually scripted (for Dems, they either come from the bar, academia, or public advocacy groups; for Republicans they more and more come from conservative think-tanks, and public advocacy groups). Today's pols may be telegenic, well scripted, and in-touch with the most recent focus groups; but, their entire political career is scripted. Once ensconced in the Beltway, they obey their lobbyist and PR masters.
What makes Akin's remarks so appalling is that he was probably forced fed this from one cause-group or another for years. Philosophically and tempermentally, there is little that seperates Akin from Wiener or Lugar from Durbin). They both represent our political class. They are all vacuous.
darcy| 8.22.12 @ 1:34PM
Here's an article for you, Quin:
Bryan Fischer: Akin: Hyenas in the GOP ignore medical science, eat their own.
See here: http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogP.....MA.twitter
Kingofthenet| 8.22.12 @ 1:44PM
Ah yes, Bryan Fisher, here are some of his other 'pieces':
Jesus would let house burn:
http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogP.....2147499026
Why not give Congressional Medal of Honors for Killing:
http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogP.....2147500421
PHILLIPBERNAL| 8.22.12 @ 2:01PM
Wahoo! This is a good one. Stick to your guns Mr. Akin. I do not know what kind of politico you are, but the fact that the gutless Republicans want to sh*tcan you for one gaffe proves that they are worthless to begin with. You serve your constituents, not the "party". Even if you just want the office to feed at the trough another six years, I want to see the Repubs squirm. Apparently rape has many flexible meanings depending on whether you are a Repub or a Dem (Bill Clinton), liberal or conservative. Do your worst Mr. Akin, I am sick to death of so-called conservative Repubs with no backbone (cue Mitt Romney). Are there no men left?
JP| 8.22.12 @ 2:11PM
One wonders what would the Establishment Republicans and MSM do if Atkin pulls a rabbit out of his hat and wins?
Ken (Old Texican)| 8.22.12 @ 9:43PM
If 51% of Americans vote foor Obama, we no longer deserve to be a Republic of free men and women.