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Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) is trying to craft a more GOP-friendly version of the DREAM Act. The original Democratic iteration, which has stalled in Congress, was billed as an attempt to prevent the deportation of people whose parents brought them to the country illegally as children if they enlisted in the military or pursued certain educational opportunities. DREAM contained loopholes that could have turned it into a much broader-based amnesty.
Rubio says he can formulate a DREAM proposal that will pass the “Kris Kobach test.” Kobach is a Mitt Romney adviser who opposes amnesty and helped design laws like Arizona’s SB 1070 to crack down on illegal immigration. While the details have yet to be fleshed out, here’s how Rubio explains the broad outlines of what he is trying to do:
All it does, it takes something that already exists, which is it takes non-immigrant visas and applies it to children who have grown up in this country, who we spent thousands of dollars educating … [and] allows them to continue to contribute to this country and if they eventually decide they would like to become residents and then thereafter citizens, allow that to do that the same way that anybody else in the world would be able to do it, and that is by accessing the existing route that is now in place.
If successful, Rubio could also help Romney square the circle on immigration. But he does run the risk of proposing something Democrats and Latino activists will oppose without winning the support of immigration restrictionists. I’ve written previously about the fact that Romney’s immigration stance — with an assist from Rubio — didn’t hurt him with Florida Hispanics in this year’s Republican primary.
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Pete| 4.20.12 @ 12:31PM
Its still amnesty. They should leave the country and apply just like those who obeyed the law.
Chris| 4.20.12 @ 12:54PM
Bingo. Plus it doesn't solve the problem of encouraging the parents to illegally enter anyways.
I might go with it if the parents get deported. That would be a good idea. You get to stay if you turn in the rest of your family.
Bob S| 4.20.12 @ 1:30PM
The only reason Democrats and Latino activists would be against it is because it doesn't give full citizenship, and as a result doesn't give the Democrat Party an influx of voters that they need in the face of their failing policies.
WhiteDude| 4.20.12 @ 1:36PM
Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, White countries for everyone????????
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into White countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY White countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would bit take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, Liberals and respectable conservatives will just say that I'm a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
Rantly McTirade| 4.20.12 @ 2:18PM
Senator Wetbacker-whose cowardly parents ran off from Cuba, rather than actually fight(and, if necessary, die) against Castro-is a great example of why the Repukes are as bad as the Demoscums. Illegals need to be busted and tossed out, no matter their age upon slithering in or how long they've been here and those who employ or shelter them need to be imprisoned and bankrupted. Any citizen who favors illegals because of shared ethnicity should not be surprised to be considered a traitor by other citizens who are sick of their pandering. Rubio is such a traitor and an enemy of America and its citizens. Romney doesn't need to 'square a circle' or shake an etch a sketch, but of course he will, making most of the staff scribblers here look like fools.
once again.
C Bowen| 4.20.12 @ 2:54PM
Rubio supported Holder's DOJ getting involved in the Martin-Zimmerman case--a local issue, and now he pressing for Amnesty?
Derek Leaberry| 4.20.12 @ 3:17PM
Rubio is for amnesty. So he is an enemy. Furthermore, Republicans should be calling for reductions of legal immigration. An overhaul of the old Kennedy 1965 immigration law is imperative.
WM| 4.20.12 @ 5:23PM
Rubio's DREAM act is an attempt at a compromise of principles, and compromises always fail.
Is Rubio proposing to break up families when the parents who broke the law are deported? What is the solution to this?
Like it or not, the kid is a foreign national. By the laws of every country on earth, that kid is a citizen of and is entitled to a passport from the home country, not the United States. Why are we evading that principle? Perhaps the kid would have obtained a visa like many Mexicans do anyway, but he did not. That matters. Lawfulness matters.
Also, I would note that you already can get citizenship through military service. If you have served, you know about the mass citizenship ceremonies. What does this bill do, grant citizenship immediately upon enlistment? That is idiotic and short-sighted. It could easily be gamed - enlist, get your citizenship, and then abscond. The National Guard in Texas is often lax about punishing new recruits who don't follow through with their service obligations. With this bill, you may or may not be punished, but by George, you are now a citizen.
Yips| 4.21.12 @ 2:55AM
And I am fed up with the ones in the ranks (a whole lot of women) who are foreigners only doing if for all the lavish taxpayer funded benies and, yep, the big payoff, citizenship.
It's not like we're getting a physicist from Switzerland to reject the Alps nation for the USA. Or a superb IT specialist from Scotland or Japan.
The dregs of the world show up and get on this conveyor belt to citizenship.
Has anybody ever really looked to see that over 60% of these "troopers" in the ranks solely to get the jackpot of U.S. citizenship are illiterate. Yes, of course they are illiterate in English. But I am talking about their illiteracy and lack of formal, proper and useful education in their countries of origin.
The military needs to toss overboard this route to citizenship.
The present system is already very well "gamed." By thousands.
jpc| 4.20.12 @ 6:18PM
Enforce the border and immigration laws. No special treament for the darling, so called "Hispanics" - really Latinos.
Deportation. It's the only solution.
Dave Francis| 4.20.12 @ 7:57PM
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND POPULATION GROWTH
It is Forty years after a multi-year bi-partisan government commission recommended slowing U.S. population growth and eventually stabilizing it. Americans still would like to see it happen, according to poll results to be released this weekend at the 2012 Earth Day Dallas festival. In the past three decades we have had a population explosion, caused by the arrival of millions of 40 percent of illegal aliens by overstaying expired temporary visas and even as many numbers crossing our sovereign border without permission. The misgivings shown by Americans today are similar to what Americans indicated in a national poll by “The Commission on Population Growth and the American Future,” which was created just before the first Earth Day (1970) and issued its closing report in spring of 1972.
Leaders from labor, business, civil rights and environmental activists, religion and academic contributed to the report. In 1972 a poll found 57% of Americans believed U.S. population growth was environmentally harmful, with 66% disapproved of adding another 100 million people, 56% said government should try to do something to slow down population growth, 57% said people should limit the size of their families even though they can afford a large number of children and 50% said the number of immigrants should be reduced, with only 3% saying the numbers should increase.
The Census data show that our population would be stabilizing at around 250 million if the American people had controlled things, given that their average family size has been at a zero-population-growth level ever since 1972,”
The new poll found only 10% of U.S. voters approve the current rate of growth that the Census Bureau states will double U.S. population from 313 million today to over 600 million by the end of the century. Of course not too many people believe the official number of 11.million foreigners who have illegally settled here. Very few organizations trust this numbers and think a more logic figure would be around 20 million and up.
In today's polls 68% of voters said immigration should be reduced in order to slow U.S. population growth; 19% prefer to keep immigration the same and let it double the U.S. population; 4% prefer increasing immigration so that population would more than double this century. Even Hispanic voters and other minority were similar to all other voters in their opposition to high population growth and in preference for a stabilizing population size.
Illegal Immigrants who are constantly pouring across our borders and entering America as international tourists are adding to this population growth. Because of this uncontrolled travesty, our energy supplies are under constant strain as is our health care system, public education and a the erosion of our once admired freeways and highways. Underground our sewer systems, is crumbling, with some pipelines over 50 years old. 30 years of indifferent administrations have allowed this incompetency to flourish and now our grandchildren are facing a 16 Trillion dollar deficit. Unquestionably we need an ultra strong Congress, which must dismiss incumbents that are not doing their job. Not just the do-nothing law makers in Washington, but hard core leftists, Democrats, Republicans and the state Governors, Mayors, and all those involved in pampering illegal aliens at the state, county and local elected officials. These people who are filling their pockets with campaign contributions are sole to blame and ignorance for the Sanctuary City ordinances, the Chain Migration adding to even larger population and other regulations such as making the public pay for Dream Act children and any new secret visa’s for people, that is really just another Comprehensive Immigration Reform known as Amnesty.
As for the controversial issue of the ‘DREAM ACT’ for granting a quick passage of illegal alien’s children will not be Fair? Thousands of people wait patiently for years, sometimes as much as 10 years to receive an entry visa.
One of the greatest menaces to our immigration laws is the ‘unfunded mandates’ forced on every taxpayer by the U.S. courts. All 50 states are held accountable to pay for the large populations of illegal aliens, where taxes are taken to pay for their medical health, children’s schooling and under the birthright citizen law, allocating food stamps, low income housing and numerous other benefits that citizens are denied. Many welfare programs have been crippled because of females who arrive here illegally by any means, with an unborn child can apply for natal care and other subsidies. The fact that our borders are still not secured, that women are able to enter here pregnant, in the years that followed we have children of illegal aliens smothering our public schools. In 20 years the populace of foreigners coming here are directly affecting any chance of slowing population growth through each prior and post administration are responsible for not enforcing immigration laws and not the absconder from their own country? And still over a million new imported legal immigrants are allowed to come here. What are these so called legislators thinking, when they are cutting off welfare for U.S. born American or resident aliens?
The U.S. public are generous and passionate and the biggest philanthropist in the world. But we cannot continue to fight distant wars and take in every desperate pauper from any corner of the world. We must stop printing money and make a giant effort to remove illegal aliens by ATTRITION BY ENFORCEMENT.
This America is the land of opportunity, but only if you come here with permission and a work visa. For farmers and agricultural communities, there must be a well regulated system of arrival and departure, not the mess provided now. In furtherance special visas should be expedited for top professionals in Science, Engineering and a whole range of high technology, given us the brain power for a futuristic U.S, but we must spend the money to check on females who are carrying an unborn infant, with new detection systems at entry ports, as 400.000 arrivals are ready to conceive annually and apply for welfare. Just calculate the uncompensated cost to hospitals that have to pay for this delivery? By the Congress just amending the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 (H.R.140) the country could discontinue this billion dollar soaking of individual states?
Then just as viable and with a high success rate is the introduction of Verify (H.R. 2885) – Chairman Lamar Smith's 'Legal Workforce Act'. Every worker hired would be eligible, if they are not flagged by the employers hook-up to the Social Security and Homeland Security databases. Those declined can fortunately travel to the SSA to get clearance for their new job. Foreign illegal workers would not go to any government agency anyway. Marco Rubio may be providing a less tough immigration enforcement ideology to Romney, but it could mean a loss of votes? Mitt Romney already stated that unauthorized workers would “self Deport” when employment cannot be located. Businesses owners and management that don’t follow the law could lose business licenses, profits, be fined and even end in a prison cell.
The best hope with have is to elect TEA PARTY leaders who have a different approach to every issue, who believe in the free competitive business enterprise, self reliance on our own abundance of oil, natural gas and clean coal. Huge deposits await us that are so plentiful, we can supply it to Europe and other friendly countries.
Anthony M| 4.20.12 @ 11:01PM
I may have a difficult time voting for Romney if he chooses Rubio as his running mate. I hate to think I'll stay home on election day, but I don't think I'll be able to support a candidate who supports amnesty.
STP| 4.21.12 @ 2:48AM
I observe anchor babies being born here every week.
By the dozens here. Statewide? Hundreds I am sure. Annually? The numbers must be off the charts.
All the women having these anchor babies know just exactly what they are doing. And it is not just to provide foreigners Mom and Pops a new track to U.S. citizenship. No, no. The plan is to bring over grandparents, step-brothers, uncles, aunts, and on and on.
And it works. It might take four to ten to fifteen years to bring it all to pass, but it will occur. Right under our noses and no one says a peep.
The Indians from India are doing this to the tune of tens of thousands of illegals arriving here annually. Pakistanis. Even Ethiopians. The Sudanese. Nigerians. Afghans. Just go on and on.
Purp| 4.21.12 @ 12:04PM
Look the southwest part of the US really belongs to Mexico anyway, so get out of the way.
Bill| 4.21.12 @ 12:18PM
No DREAM Act. Period.