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Now we will put to the test what was always an odd claim, namely that Mitt Romney is well positioned and well equipped to defeat Barack Obama this fall. This is a man who lost by 17 points to an incredibly weakened Ted Kennedy (people forget how vulnerable Kennedy was that year) in one of the most pro-Republican years in history, 1994 (the same year in which Rick Santorum won yet another upset victory); a man who would have been handily defeated if he had run for re-election as governor of Massachusetts in 2006; and a man who could barely squeak past his GOP opponents this year despite running almost non-stop for nearly six full years and despite outspending all of them combined by at least a 2-1 margin, while outspending each of them individually by at least 4-1 and running ads that were 90% negative against them.

Plus, he’s a perfect caricature for Obama’s anti-corporate-elite message to take root. Plus, he’s plastic.

The GOP establishment — the money men, the consultants who so repeatedly spread the message that only Romney could beat Obama while they angled for a piece of the lucrative campaign pie, the hangers-on and officious kingmakers, and the cultural elitists who secretly share much of the big media’s cultural attitudes and disdain for middle America — now must prove they can actually deliver a victory. If they can’t, the GOP should have a figurative bloodletting that banishes them forever from party power.

Nonetheless, every conservative, and everybody who loves this country and cares about its traditions, its Constitution, and its freedom, should do nothing other than help that establishment succeed in this election. Objectively speaking, almost any analyst would say that from the standpoint of a conservative of conscience and a lover of liberty as conservatives understand it, Romney certainly should appear a better choice than Obama — by an almost astronomical degree. Conservatives would do far better for themselves to hold their noses and work hard for Romney than they would if they stood back, stayed home, and watched the forces of Big Government complete their extreme makeover of American society.

Mitt Romney has none of the personally obnoxious qualities of John McCain. He doesn’t go out of his way to insult people, especially conservatives. He does show an understanding of most free-market principles. He seems to have an exemplary family life. He doesn’t have temper tantrums like McCain does. If conservatives had been able to have Romney as the Republican candidate four years ago, rather than McCain, they would have been extremely relieved.

An Obama second term would feature expanded use of executive orders, expanded abuses via administrative fiat, further retrenchment from military strength — and a real effort to stack the judiciary with ideologues who will refuse to rein in these abuses. In fact, the likelihood is reasonably high that he will be able to replace a moderate or conservative on the Supreme Court with a statist ideologue — and thus secure an Alinskyite vision of a power grab on behalf of radical aims.

Mitt Romney will not do that. Conservatives should leave no doubt that they will not be responsible for failing to try to put him over the top in what is sure to be a brutal and vicious campaign.

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Clint| 4.10.12 @ 4:19PM

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Mender| 4.11.12 @ 1:25AM

Gizza Clizza Hizza Wizza Hydrangea Elisa Obama.

Hy Trampled Cardinal Baxter McGillicddy Flunky Fake Stooges.

The Tea Party Rebellion Seriously Believes Ron Paul Can Win.

Vern Crisler | 4.11.12 @ 2:20AM

Forget it Quin. Been there, done that. Romney, whether he wins or loses, is a disaster for the Republican Party. I also think the Republican Party itself is now a party of political whores -- they knew that Romney was a snake but they still voted for him. I will be laughing come November at all the Republicans who once again fell for the "where else are you going to go?" line.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 4:22PM

Hillyer,

Obama is eminently beatable.

Before we start making pronouncements of doom, before we start seeing ill omens in every entrail we might come across, ------ let's be mindful of the fundamental fact that obama has been an outright disaster economically!

And that looms large over his reelection hopes, now doesn't it?

Churchill once remarked that when danger is distant, be aware of your weakness, but when it is upon you, be mindful of your strength.

We have cards to play in this tremendous drama that is about to unfold.

We are not in any way done!

Simon Templar| 4.10.12 @ 4:47PM

Drek, you are both correct. He is indeed beatable, but do not underestimate the ability of the GOP establishment and their candidate to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Do not underestimate the Socialist Democratic machine.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:26PM

We need to be careful about overestimating the power of the Democrat/media machine.

It didn't protect them in 2010.....

Rushbo stresses this point, that sometimes we're too overawed by the ability of the Democrats to push their narratives.

As for the GOP establishment, I don't have any confidence in them.

But neither does a good chunk of our party. Romney won't be able to get away with near that amount that GW pulled off. Romney will be dealing with a base that is on to him, and on to the leadership in the party.

At least I hope so........

vb| 4.11.12 @ 7:11AM

You should be very careful about your attacks on the GOP establishment. You seem to be implying that anyone who found Romney to be better presidential material than Cain, Bachmann, or Santorum is some unthinking unprincipled tool of an evil inner circle. I personally resent that. I gave all of the candidates a fair hearing, but I couldn't jump on the Cain bandwagon because of his lack of interest in foreign policy. Michelle didn't impress me because she accomplished next to nothing in congress. Santorum didn't seem able to set platform priorities, and his zero tax for manufacturing showed little awareness of the need to streamline the tax code and stop playing favorites in the economic sector.

I can accept that different people have different priorities, but I expect others to accept that mine might have some legitimacy. Try to convince me of yours, but don't make me out to be a manipulated idiot.

Le Cracquere| 4.10.12 @ 5:09PM

I hope you're right, and shall vote accordingly. But as your post illustrates, we're left betting on--COUNTING on--our opponent's weaknesses, rather than our strengths. That's an extraordinarily weak hand to play.

But here's hoping.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 5:52PM

But with obama, his weaknesses, his litany of failure and inflation, is an unusually strong hand to play.

And we're playing it before an American audience unaccustomed to delaying gratification. They want a turn around, and they want it fast.

And the messiah, false and fallen, didn't deliver!

Quartermaster| 4.10.12 @ 7:33PM

Yep! He's beatable with the right candidate. Mittens, alas, is not that candidate.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 8:43PM

Even with Romney, we can take obama out, and throw his entire political persona right up there on the ash heap of history.

Jozy Wales| 4.12.12 @ 12:36AM

How do you know? The Rasmussen poll yesterday had Romney tied with the evil one. Are you a demo RAT troll posting negative comments about Romney? The check is in the mail.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:55PM

Obama was one helluva lot more beatable in 2008 when we ran a bona fide war hero against him. That was the best shot the RINOs had.

They got whupped.

Just like they always do.

If you bet money on Romney winning, you may as well just give it away.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 8:44PM

McCain gave away the election the moment he purchased into this idea of bailing out America's banks.

The polling indicated as much. When he selected Palin, he assumed the lead, which he never relinquished until he signed up for the bailout.

After that, stick a fork in him.

Romney can defeat obama, and if we all play our parts, he will defeat obama.

Then it will be for all of us to make sure that Romney doesn't wander off the conservative reservation.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 8:57PM

Obama supported bailing out the banks and got elected.

Romney supported TARP and the auto bailouts too.

You do see the problem?

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 8:57PM

http://www.conservativehq.com/.....rp-outrage

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:22PM

Tef,

realize, I've not been a Romney guy. Don't go confusing me with Rich Lowry, who is over at NR's Corner posting on his late and lamented cat, {complete with a drawing too}.

The bailouts aren't on the election slate this go 'round.

Obama's economic record is. And as you are well aware, his record is a piece of sh#t.

Obama finally has a record, and all the fuzzy, vague hope and change crap isn't going to cut it when he is forced to defend that record, even against a guy like Romney.

We can win this thing.

This entire race was never going to come down to a purity test of health care mandates, which has been the line Santorum's been spouting.

That healthcare legislation will play its part, but the economy is going to be the focus.

America is hurting, Americans are out of work, Americans have lost hope, {this from the messiah of hope!}.

We can win this thing.

Maybe I'm in just a different mood this day, but I'm just not up for indulging in bitterness because Santorum went down.

I got over my bitterness about Gingrich a couple of months back.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:39AM

I know you're not a Romney guy, Drek--I've followed your posts for months.

You're in denial regarding how awful a Romney candidacy is. It's not Santorum going down---I supported fully have the Republican field and Bachmann and Cain before Santorum---it's about the RINO Establishment aided and abetted by FauxCons here, on Fox News, and at NR, conspiring to keep a conservative off the ballot in an election where our only chance is a conservative standard-bearer.

It is an utter betrayal of Tea Party conservatives who are the only reason the GOP has any sizable presence in government today---after the last RINO candidate got them wiped out in 2008.

Don't put the blinders on---this is bad.

Jozy Wales| 4.12.12 @ 12:40AM

There is nothing awful about Romney especially when the alternative is the Muslim who will bring the apocalypse to the USA. You must one of the many trolls sent by the evil one's campaign to convince us Romney is not conservative enough. If you are not a troll than you a fool.

ilovewax| 4.10.12 @ 10:08PM

Seriously!?! Doesn't Romney have to actually be on the conservative reservation before he can wander off? He doesn't even know where the conservative reservation is!

Romney is a moderate/liberal...look at his record. Why on earth should we think he would govern conservatively if he were to win? If conservatives vote for him, all it says to the Moderate Liberal Elite GOP Establishment is that they can continue to shove their fake, conservative candidates down our throats and we won't make a sound. Actually, we will cough and sputter a bit, but in the end we won't throw-up the bile, we'll swallow it whole.

I am a True Conservative. There will be no swallowing here...not for me and my house.

Skuzi| 4.10.12 @ 10:30PM

Amen!!!

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 11:18PM

Good point, we would like to think that Romney is on the reservation at least once in his life.....

I get it.

I've not been a Romney guy.

But before any of this, I've ALWAYS been an anti-obama guy, and that will guide my behavior in the months to come.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:42AM

I love how MittBots---RINOs to a woman---conveniently forget Romney's own words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU

Then they tell us "you conservatives just need to keep an eye on him and make sure he governs to the right."

Yeah, that worked real well with both Bushes, didn't it?

Simon Templar| 4.10.12 @ 4:38PM

Wow! That was fast!

John - TMF| 4.10.12 @ 4:43PM

Time to let this hooptie hit the wall. Cover up and protect your vitals.

When the GOP Establishment nominates a Liberal Democrat in the craven desire for any sort of power, well, it's time to dump the Establishment, not mollify it.

The only way to dump the establishment is to fire its pet candidate, and the only way that I have to fire who I firmly believe will govern against my interests (meaning just like a Liberal Democrat) is to withhold my vote.

So... The Pledge:

Willard Milton Romney is a Limousine Liberal Democrat masquerading as a Republican; therefore I WILL NOT vote for him, EVER!

Time to under-vote... Fimian for Congress, Allen for Senate. Blank for president.

r/John - TMF

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 4:51PM

I'm with John. I won't stay home, but I won't vote for Rmoney. I will write-in a committed conservative instead. Take care John.

Bob K.| 4.10.12 @ 8:42PM

Good move. Like Lemmings and the Gadarine Swine you are in the process of running headlong over the side of a cliff.

Anybody is better than Obama!

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 8:57PM

Thank you Bob for proving to me the GOP & most of their voters are fear driven & all for driving conservatism out of the party. The GOP is all yours Bob. They have become nothing more than enablers of modern liberalism. Barack Obama is only a man Bob. The only one who can make the necessary changes needed to correct the disastrous course America is on is God. The GOP & many of their voters have proven they don't have the stomach to say no to the GOP's own liberals, aka RINOs.

Caritas| 4.10.12 @ 11:05PM

Do we all agree that Obama has no regard for the truth? That he has lied to us too many times to count? Is one liar better than another? When do the American people think to take a stand for the truth? Whose conscience can bear up knowing that they willfully voted to replace a liar with another liar? Lying, with all of it's corruption, has delivered us to this current, untenable place we find ourselves. When one has no regard for the truth, one has no place in leadership. The biggest issue we have is the ongoing corruption in government. We cannot, in any way, begin to rid ourselves of this plague, if we start out with another plague ridden candidate.

Bob Grant| 4.10.12 @ 9:10PM

Go ahead champ, do that. And while you're free falling over that metaphorical cliff try using your principles as a parachute. See how that works for you.

I'm sure your offspring, friends, and relatives will thank you for doing your little part in reinstalling this Disastrous Dictator.

John - TMF| 4.10.12 @ 9:58PM

The snickering that you hear in the background are the members of the Establishment that run both parties...

If Obambi gets back in... he continues to be a sockpuppet for their pocket lining power games. If Mittster eeks it over the finish line, he just consolidates the power gains... as long as they can fill their personal coffers before it all piles up at the bottom, they are all cool about it.

Obummer is nothing. He's a face... Harry Reid has more power and more control.

Romney is a just an echo. He is a distinction without a difference... as George Soros said... he just brings different people with him, but he's basically the same.

You are voting for nothing... no difference...

This nation needed a Conservative to vote FOR. Instead a liberal poseur is dressed up and presented as a choice.

No choice.. no vote.. I will vote Conservative Fimian/Allen for the House and Senate.

Maybe I'll write in my old man for President. He passed away in 1975 at the age of 39. He was spared the loss of his beloved Saigon. I suppose he was spared much more dishonor than that. Of course he's not eligible, but he sure is better than the stiff Mittster...

Smile.. life goes on.. it's not the end of the world, or it doesn't and it is... nothing much we can do about that... It's all up to God.

TMF

Bob Grant| 4.11.12 @ 12:36AM

Your obama=Romney=establishment is plain wrong.

I'm sure you were of the same mindset in '08 regarding McCain. As much as I despised McCain there was a light and day difference between him and obama. No forced "universal" healthcare plan, no cap and trade ploys, no 800 billion stimulus (perhaps 300), no takeover of car companies, no takeover of student loan industry, no takeover of the financial industry, no irresponsible deficit spending like we see today, at least not at this level.

He would have dad his unique set of problems many conservatives would have issues with but nothing close to the magnitude we have with this POS currently in the whitehouse.

So save your "Romney is no different than obama" meme because no one in their right mind is buying it, save for a few unhinged Paul supporters!

It's time to coalesce around this flawed candidate and work to unseat the dictator. Unless, that is, you WANT to unseat the dictator.

Bob Grant| 4.11.12 @ 12:44AM

Corrections (sheesh)

*That would be "night and day" difference
*He would have" HAD" his unique set of problems
*"that is, if you WANT to unseat the dictator"

John - TMF| 4.11.12 @ 1:26AM

Actually I am exactly correct... I am aways right.. just ask my wife.. she'll tell you... ;-)

But no, it is all of you who opposed Romney, who are now singing his praises who are forgetting why you opposed him.

He is a liar and a phony. He is not conservative, not even remotely so. The fear fed self-delusion that somehow Mitt is going to magically morph into the Gipper because "we" are going to hold his feet to the fire is bordering on pathetic.

What is even worse is stalwarts mouthing lies to themselves believing that Romney is going to nominate conservative judges and cabinet officials...

Added to that the fundamentally vapid belief that a conservative Vice President will be chocolates to salve the contusions and abrasions caused by being slapped around till stuns me.

Y'all were maneuvered into voting for so a candidate so grossly liberal is disheartening. We were supposed to be the smart ones. Well, Romney voters will be a combination of the Establishment, Moderate Republicans, and the abused spouses without any pride.

With that coalition Obama is guaranteed a second term.

I voted for Johnny Mac...I held my nose and kept my promise to my mother, God rest her soul. I have seen this idiot's delight before...

Ford/Dole - That went well didn't it, I was 17 and couldn't vote in that one.

Then there was Bush/Quayle - 2nd term.. after George the Elder walked away from Reaganism.. I voted for him.. I worked the polls for that one.

Then there was the wunnerful Bobdole/Kemp - Kemp being the conservative pogey bait... yup.. The Tax collector for the Welfare state and the football hero. Maybe if it had been Kemp... at the head of the ticket... but that is maybe... I held my nose and voted, and lost again.

Then there was Bush/Cheney.. well I really liked W. and Dick Cheney is an American treasure. They had flaws but Bush was a good man doing a difficult thankless job, and the movement made him know how thankless they could be. I worked for both 2000 and 2004 Bush campaigns... lots of sweat, shoe leather, and gas burned.. I never held my nose for him.. that's for sure.

But then there was 2006, the Democrat take over, and the Democrat tofu-ham sandwich election of 2008... We ran an unstable man with the personality of a cranky pit bull and a kick me sign the size of a road side lollipop on his back. Most attractive pogey bait added, and for a moment just before the Establishment committed sepukku, McCain/Palin had a snowmobile's chance at crossing the melted lake surface... just a chance.. but Johnny Mac was afraid to gun the engine and go for it.. so the machine drown...

And now.. in 2012... We have before us a curious thing... an Establishment Candidate who has a tiny shot at winning the election, but who will definitely destroy the GOP regardless.

I am now convinced that the internal polling numbers for the Establishment have scared them into believing that they really don't want the presidency. They want to go back to the "golden years" of 1995-2000 where they ran the House and Senate, earmarked their way to safe seats, and used the opposition president as a strawman on which to blame everything. The Establishment doesn't want to lead, it just wants to line its pockets... before there is nothing left with which to fill them.

They want Congress, the presidency is to hard, and easy to blame when the inevitable collapse comes...

The hooptie went off the road in 2008, y'all just haven't noticed that the ground rush is starting.

Protect your vitals and brace for impact... No matter who sits in the Oval Office we parted company with the road and the crash WILL happen.

Start saying those Hail Marys and Our Fathers... it's all about to hit bottom.

r/TMF

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 9:10AM

How do other conservatives not see this?

My God, look at what's happening in the economy. In the world.

Look at this, my favorite indicator of the doom nearly upon us:

http://research.stlouisfed.org.....RES?rid=19

That, my friends, is where Bernanke's been hiding the money he's been printing like a madman to carry Obama over to a 2nd term. That is where the stagflation is. We've only seen a small portion leak out. There is another 2 T sitting in corporate coffers---and for the same reason.

Bernanke is going to have to ease up on the reserve requirements soon in order to get some modicum of economic growth going and get unemployment below riot levels. And when he does, you're going to see Weimar Republic-level inflation.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:47PM

INTELLIGENT conservatives see it, and they'll vote Republican to get rid of this Fed chairman and his facilitator-instigator @1600, to get rid of WELFARECARE, to begin downsizing governmental spending and therefore defecits/debt. The Wolfman's days are numbered of providing inflation for his socialist bosses and driving our dollar's value into the economic toilet. The conservatism called Catholic ain't the solution, and will only be a Republican alternative to the AFL-CIO's wishes of maintaining governmental employment of union represented GSA partyiers in Vegas at taxpayers' expense!!!!!!

Caritas| 4.11.12 @ 6:02PM

Thank you for your confirmaions, John-TMF. We offer our Rosary everyday for this country and her people!

DavidH| 4.10.12 @ 5:29PM

You're entitled to your opinion, which is noticeably devoid of facts.

Mitt Romney is a generally conservative, but also fundamentally pragmatic, politician. He is competent. He is more than deserving of conservative votes when the alternative is Obama.

If you choose not to vote for Romney, be prepared to accept your share of the blame for Obama's second term.

hrh| 4.10.12 @ 5:38PM

Mitt Romney is not generally conservative, he's severely conservative, dontcha' know.

Which is a bunch of poppycock.

He is not conservative at all.

And right back atcha', if you vote for Romney, be prepared to accept your share of the blame for the downfall of the United States in Romney's first term.

Romney does not have the GUTS to make the necessary reversals to undo what Obama has done.

This country's going down with Obama or Romney.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 7:37PM

Thanks hrh. You said exactly my thoughts.

Bob Grant| 4.10.12 @ 9:11PM

Amen!

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 9:11AM

Mitt Romney disagrees with you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU

But why should we believe HIM, right?

JeffC| 4.10.12 @ 6:26PM

so in other words 1 vote for Obama ...

thanks for playing ...

Quartermaster| 4.10.12 @ 7:35PM

Hardly. Just one less vote against the Kenyan. That is a vote for the Kenyan only in mathematically challenged minds.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 7:38PM

BINGO! Thank you Quartermaster.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:43AM

I'm with John. And frankly, I'm strongly considering not voting the down-ticket either given the betrayals wrought by Tammy Faye Boehner and Mitch McClownel since 2010.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:49PM

Forrest Gump predicted this!!!!!

Simon Templar| 4.10.12 @ 4:43PM

Excellent, accurate, honest, and to the point, Quin!

We do indeed will have to work very hard and get into this fight with all we have and support this guy even if we have to literally carry him over the finish line!

JeffC| 4.10.12 @ 6:25PM

try kneecapping Obama before you try to carry Romney ... if you are pointing your shots at Romney you aren't taking shots at Obama ...

Simon Templar| 4.11.12 @ 4:50PM

JeffC,

Word to the wise.

Politics is a struggle for power in it's simplest definition and it is not a virtual reality game or fantasy play. Being realistic about a candidates weaknesses and being honest about them serves the interest of your struggle and your cause. It is not about who has the best and biggest shots of rhetoric, cheerleading and propaganda. It is about ideas, the ability to communicate them, and real leadership that can effectively deal with the onslaught of an opponent that is willing to deceive. Romney and you will need to do more than kneecapping to win, Obama has a bigger bat, it is called the MSM. before you enter he battlefield, it is always a good idea to take stock of your strengths and weaknesses and shoe those weaknesses up if you really want to win. It is those weakenesses that will determine if you win or lose.

Bob Grant| 4.10.12 @ 9:13PM

I"m in!!

Occam's Tool| 4.10.12 @ 4:57PM

Well, tonight I donate to Mitt.

Leo| 4.10.12 @ 5:03PM

Now that's going a bit far...

WL| 4.10.12 @ 5:09PM

Yep...I have to say that one of my biggest critiques of Mitt is his seeming weakness to take it to the opponents.

However, he has proven me wrong with his campaign so far...Hopefully he doesn't take the ol Republican dive into cowardice over the next 6 1/2 Months...

If he doesn't...then we might have a chance.

WL| 4.10.12 @ 5:11PM

"Yep" as in..."tonight I donate to Mitt"

NOT as in..."that's going a bit far..."

What are we supposed to do LEO? Contribute to Ron Paul and throw our money in the dung heap of Clint and friends????

NO, as for me, the primary is OVER...I am Mitt's new best friend. We have to beat Obama.

We just have to...

Clint| 4.10.12 @ 5:34PM

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

the_dumb_oxette| 4.10.12 @ 7:08PM

No, we just have to have faith in God...

Quartermaster| 4.10.12 @ 7:37PM

The country has the Kenyan, and is faced with the choice between the Kenyan and Mittens because it has forgotten God. The solution to the problem starts with repentance, not a request for God's blessing on a corrupt system.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 7:40PM

THIS + 1,000,000!

JeffC| 4.10.12 @ 6:30PM

don't forget that in every single Senate and House race the GOP candidate will be "taking it to" Obama and try to tie his/her opponent to Obama ... so in all 50 states we will see anti-Obama ads from local candidates and in battleground states we'll see plenty of anti-Obama ads from Romney forces ...
since most of the negative ads have been placed by pro-Romney PAC's I would expect to see more of the same in the general ...

Kingofthenet| 4.10.12 @ 5:20PM

Mittens is playing checkers, all the while The President is playing 3D chess...your move

Calvin| 4.10.12 @ 5:40PM

The President is playing tic tac toe but he ties over half the time. He almost has as much skill as he does at Constitutional Law and at visiting states. He has visited more states than an other President when he went past 50 and is now at 57.

Simon Templar| 4.10.12 @ 5:59PM

KingoftheUsefulIdiots,

Let us be honest for one moment, the community organizer you elected to the white house is indeed a very clever individual but certainly not a 3D chess player. As Clinton aptly said, this guy should be getting our coffee. If it were not for the gigantic state controlled media you know in your bleeding heart that he would be nothing. That is what is formidable and they of late have been shocked at his unwillingness to admit to mistakes, his stupidity, and lack of focus as of late.

I am going to roll out something that you really need to think about before you leave this earth. Why do you implicitly trust your liberal talking masters and rulers. Is the world really run by greedy, the rich, and powerful? If so, the how is it men obtain these positions of government power? What makes you so sure he really has your interest in mind? What makes one politician more honest than any others?

You can be a liberal but you do not have to be a useful idiot nor a blind sucker.

As conservatives, we do not trust any of them when you come down to it, nor those that sit at the seats of power and wealth. That is why we want them divided against each other both in government and in the corporate market place via competition and free markets.

Kingofthenet| 4.10.12 @ 6:40PM

Yes, I do believe there is an 'Illuminati' controlling things but they are BOTH Democrats and Republicans. Let me ask YOU this Simon IF you had the choice between (Say winning the lottery with help from a Genie) between 500 Million and EVERYONE was doing great, full unemployment, the works or 750 million but the Country and World was in the grip of a great depression, which would you take? and more importantly why?

Simon Templar| 4.11.12 @ 5:06PM

I guess you are a bigger idiot than I thought you were and frankly a waste of space.

Liberalism and left wing philosophy is based on a set of principles that underscores the belief that there are organized units of society called classes and business interest that seek to dominate and control the masses to insure their power and enhance their interest. This is your usual rhetoric and the basis of many of your idiotic post.

I challenge you using your own rhetoric and accept this premise partially to get you to broaden your thinking and you return with an idiotic response implying that I am a paranoid, tin foil hatted crazy and making idiot references to the illuminati. That takes the case, and assuredly proves that liberalism is a dishonest, mental derangement.

It also does not answer or address a single point but employs the usual liberal ploy and tactic of changing the subject.

Your question is pure flummery and ridiculous.
Keep posting nevertheless. You help us daily in our quest to demonstrate the bankruptcy, childishness, and general vapidness of liberals and liberalism.

Kingofthenet| 4.10.12 @ 6:40PM

Bob Grant| 4.10.12 @ 9:20PM

What political genius does it take for him to say the most outrageous lie and have the networks spruce it up for maximum impact on unsuspecting voters?

His teleprompter and the networks carry his water. He just says the words and the media turns it into a finished product for mass consumption.

3D chess? ...that's a good one!

Marco2| 4.10.12 @ 5:27PM

Holy Jesus, can't you even shut up about Romney for five minutes? How about a new project, to bring back Rick Perry? It should be as easy as 1,2, er, 3. Oh, I forgot, sorry about that.

Casey Abell| 4.10.12 @ 5:28PM

Quin's a bad loser, much like his beloved Rick. Had to run down Romney for three paragraphs before grumpily conceding that he's better than Obama. Oh well, at least Hillyer's done with that silly non-pledge (which he violated as soon as he made it) once and for all.

Simon Templar| 4.10.12 @ 6:04PM

You are being a poor winner. Quin is being realistic. You might want to try it. We have some real issues and challenges here. He and all of us want to win, and a great deal is at stake here.

We want the man to win, but like adults that think we need to face these issues and weaknesses and develop a plan to counter them.

What you need to do is address these concerns and convince us of a way out towards success.

Your input, ideas, and strategies are needed, not the little smarmy retorts and remarks or dismissals.

JeffC| 4.10.12 @ 6:23PM

most of what Quin describes as his weaknesses only exist in a GOP primary fight ... in the general they are hardly weaknesses against Obama ...

how about defining the Obama weaknesses first and coming up with input, ideas, and strategies to hit Obama with ...

We Are All In Trouble ...

does that sound like the headline of a writer who wants to find ways to help his candidate ?

Simon Templar| 4.11.12 @ 5:26PM

JeffC,

Word to the wise.

Politics is a struggle for power in it's simplest definition and it is not a virtual reality game or fantasy play. Being realistic about a candidates weaknesses and being honest about them serves the interest of your struggle and your cause. It is not about who has the best and biggest shots of rhetoric, cheerleading and propaganda. It is about ideas, the ability to communicate them, and real leadership that can effectively deal with the onslaught of an opponent that is willing to deceive. Romney and you will need to do more than kneecapping to win, Obama has a bigger bat, it is called the MSM. Before you enter the battlefield, it is always a good idea to take stock of your strengths and weaknesses and shore those weaknesses up if you really want to win. It is those weakenesses that will determine if you win or lose.

To sat that those weaknesses exist only in the GOP primary is ridiculous.
You will soon find out that they are not, as the Dems use them in the general.

The claims and observations that Quin has layed out are undeniable and must be faced and will be faced whether we like it or not. I am no one's sycophant and surely will be voting for Romney if he is nominated.

This will not be about cheerleading the loudest or putting one's head in the sand or covering your ears. It will be about delivering. Romney and the establishment made their claims, took their actions, and ran a campaign as they saw fit.

They will be held accountable this time.
Given the task ahead and past history, we are all indeed in trouble.

But it will take more than defining the Obama weaknesses first and coming up with input, ideas, and strategies to hit Obama with ...
That is the point. We are not confident that he will even do this...

You need to keep in mind that we want him to win and would like to believe that he is now a conservative. Yes, we all must contribute in developing ideas and such, but will the establishment listen to its base? Has it up till now and why should it start; you need to think about that...

Casey Abell| 4.11.12 @ 9:56AM

Funny how Quin finds endless ways to dismiss Santorum's disaster in 2006. But every Romney defeat is blown up into a crusher.

Hillyer is a sore loser. His heartthrob was facing another embarrassment in Pennsylvania.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 6:32PM

Yeah, and with a prissy little girl like you stomping for Mittens, he has zero chance converting NC and VA----which he MUST win---back to the GOP column.

Metrosexuals like Mittens play well in the Northeast---not in the South.

The best thing about Romney getting wiped out in November will be watching you RINO MittBots go down in flames----as you should have done last time around.

This time, it's the Tea Party. Bye-bye, GOP---you are now a cautionary lesson in what happens when people stop believing in any principle save power.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 6:33PM

And I vote in NC, so the GOP will now need to find at least 2 people who voted Obama in 2008 to replace the votes my wife and I won't be casting.

Good luck with that.

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 8:42PM

North Carolina... explains alot.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 8:59PM

Yeah, you MittBots are all about primary victories in states you can't win, but you haven't a prayer of taking this state, which you must.

Political geniuses.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 7:51PM

"The best thing about Romney getting wiped out in November will be watching you RINO MittBots go down in flames----as you should have done last time around.

This time, it's the Tea Party. Bye-bye, GOP---you are now a cautionary lesson in what happens when people stop believing in any principle save power."
What you posted above bears repeating over & over & over again. Sadly, the RINOs & the "Establishment" will never, ever get it. They learned absolutely nothing from 2008. All they understand is, "it was Sarah Palin's fault". The GOP is finished after Rmoney loses in November.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:00PM

Oh, it will be Rick Santorum's fault. See, he should have gotten out the moment he was leading in the polls.....

Casey Abell| 4.11.12 @ 9:58AM

Oh, you called me a prissy little girl. I'm gonna cry.

As if Santorum had any chance of taking any state back into the red column. He was gonna lose his home state to "Mittens." And Santorum was somehow supposed to beat Obama? Don't make me laugh...or cry.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:55PM

I got news for ya.........NC ain't '''''SOUTH''''' or '''''''''SOUTHERN'''''''. Try South Carolina instead, now that's ''''SOUTH'''''!! And VA being southern [that state is a suberb of Washington DC]? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!

Quartermaster| 4.10.12 @ 7:39PM

Mittens is the Soros approved GOP candidate.

9thID| 4.10.12 @ 5:35PM

Lesser of two evils RomneyCare cannot beat ObamaCare and the Dole/McCain Redux is now set in motion. Looks like the Whig Party got its assisted suicide wish. So, now that the die has been cast, it is time to cash in some investments and head back down to the military surplus store...

JeffC| 4.10.12 @ 5:39PM

way to rally to the cause Quin ... some men run towards the sound of battle ... others shoot those men in the back ...

I'll bet you blame your equipment, the sun or the course for your golf score don't you ...

we are in a fight, grab an oar and pull in the right direction or leave the boat ...

That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 6:34PM

Your general's wearing the other side's uniform, pal. Had you done your homework on Romney you'd know that.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:58PM

The other side's uniform? Socialism, really is Romney being a private sector capitalist....a socialist? Shazam, you's beez from NC alright!

aware| 4.10.12 @ 6:21PM

The last 2 Republican primaries represent a serious defeat for conservatives, period. Put the best face on it you can, but that is the truth. There will be NO conservative "alternative" in November.

If this debacle leads to some real soul searching among conservatives, it would be the only positive result. This bus has crashed through the guard rails and is about to careen over the cliff.

It's going to be sickening to see all the cheerleading "conservative" commentators try to put lipstick on this swine.

As November approaches, I bet Quin and others who claim lesser of evils find it harder and harder to claim evil isn't winning.

JeffC| 4.10.12 @ 6:37PM

nice turn of praise ... "harder and harder to claim evil isn't winning."

except that in the real world neither man is really evil and especially not Romney ... apparently evil = more liberal than me ...

on a scale of 0 being hard core liberal and 10 being hard core conservative nobody in their right minds would place Obama and Romney any less than several points apart ...

on single issues they may be close but in the sum total Romney is clearly more conservative than Obama ...

Quartermaster| 4.10.12 @ 7:40PM

Both men are pushing evil. So it's hard to say they aren't evil.

Raymond| 4.10.12 @ 6:48PM

Mr.Hillyer. As if Obama couldn't caricature Santorum?? Or Newt? Or anyone the GOP selects.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 7:00PM

Obama has a record for really the first time in his existence, a record he'll have to defend.

So sure, whichever Republican we went with was going to get plastered and caricatured, {SNL has already started on Romney}, but let's not overlook obama's weaknesses.

Andrew Keirns| 4.10.12 @ 6:54PM

I am really tired of the 'hold your nose' candidate. Once again, I vote against someone instead of for someone. When do we wise up and give the Republican Party the RINO candidate while we create (fund, volunteer, etc) a conservative alternative?

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 6:55PM

Few other than Mr. Hillyer would begin the litany of liabilities of what he judges to be the inferior candidate with the observation that he lost a Senate race in his home state by 17 points - after having compilled a veritable treasure chest of love letters in this same space for a candidate who lost his Senate seat by...wait for it...18 POINTS.

Rich. Very rich.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:02PM

Did Santorum write the blueprint for Obamacare, mandate taxpayer funding of abortion, defend said practices to this day, and run AGAINST the Contract with America and Ronald Reagan?

Why no, no he didn't. So take your MittBot nonsense elsewhere---we're on to you RINOs and we know why you support Big GuvMitt.

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 8:19PM

Quick, Teflon; look up! That object zooming by overhead is the point.

I carry no brief for Romney; in fact, we part company on a number of substantive issues, and pulling the lever for Mr. Romney will be rather like settling for the least ugly chick at the bar at last call.

The point, Stephen Hawking, is this: when crafting a strong argument against one's opponent, one generally does well to select as one's opening salvo a criticism from which one's favored candidate is immune. When one begins by disqualifying a candidate on the basis of a deficiency that is shared by the candidate one supports, the reader has little reason to continue.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:49PM

Yes, which is why Romney can't fight Obama on the issue that 70% of Americans oppose him on.

THAT is the point, Christopher Pike.

Trinacria| 4.11.12 @ 3:03PM

Pity, that. I suppose he'll have to focus on any one of a dozen other issues on which Mr. Obama has proven to be disgracefully incompetent...

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 3:04PM

BigGovMitt? Sahazam! Did he legislate the GREAT SOCIETY welfare programs which taxpayers are saddled with today? Is he responsible for the Warren SCOTUS? Did he federalize the public school system? What about $800 billion non-stimulus? Maybe the welfarecare '''''Federal''''''legislation now being decided by the SCOTUS? Did he ignore immigration laws to facilitate Democrats becoming elected? Did he have the USJD file lawsuits against photo-ID laws of states? Right, hues beez one of thems there RINOS-CINOS, huhs??????????????

Quin| 4.11.12 @ 1:03PM

You missed the comparison. Mitt lost in a GOP year when Santorum was winning an upset. Santorum lost in a completely pro-Democrat year when Mitt chickened out of running for re-election. I'll take the guy who won in 1994 and at least ran in 2006 over the guy who lost to a VERY weakened Kennedy in 1994 and chickened out in 2006.

Trinacria| 4.11.12 @ 3:07PM

OK - you take that guy (the two of you can have a barbeque while watching the Republican convention from his home in Western PA). Me - I'll take the guy who will actually be on the ballot (but, hey, that's just me...)

Larry| 4.10.12 @ 7:02PM

Mr.Hillyer. I actually feel sorry for you. Your obsession with Santorum borders on that of a schoolgirl.

aware| 4.10.12 @ 8:06PM

Penis envy.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:07PM

As an INDEPENDANT traditionalist Christian, I don't have a stake in an Obama versus Romney match. BOTH are worthless liberals. They don't deserve my support; neither will they get it.

Since there is no viable candidate that suits my values this year, I will be not be voting in November's election.

I will NOT for Obama-Lite just so Romney's Minions and GOP Hacks have jobs in January 2013. In fact, if Mitt Romney is truly what the Republican Party stands for, I really do not care if I NEVER vote for another Republican politician as long as I live.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:10PM

"I will NOT for Obama-Lite....."

Sorry, that should read, "I will NOT vote for Obama-Lite ....."

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 8:32PM

"Since there is no viable candidate that suits my values this year, I will be not be voting in November's election. I will NOT [vote] for Obama-Lite ..."

Brilliant reasoning, sport... I'd rather have "DISASTER" than "DISASTER-LITE". Hell, why have a migraine when you can have an inoperable brain tumor?!

Darwin vindicated here in the pages of American Spector...

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:14PM

Rick Santorum is one of the few Republicans and conservatives that I retain any respect for. Considering where he came from, and how much more resources Mr. Electability had, he produced a great campaign to make it as close as he did. Nothing but the very best wishes and prayers for an abundance of God's grace for he, his family, and especially for little Bella.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 7:39PM

So you respected him and his vote for McCain/Feingold?

The only thing that excuses such a comment is that you're momentarily bitter because you didn't see the writing on the wall for the last month or so, and you must be ignorant of vast portions of Santorum's legislative record.

Santorum was never equal to the challenge.

And think of this too, before indulging in more bitterness, Santorum hadn't run a damn thing in his entire life, so was he ever the guy for the job of chief executive of the United States.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:45PM

I am MUCH more impressed with Santorum that that fat bucket of sleeze Newt Gingrich. Since he is going absolutely nowhere near the nomination, he can spend his time trying to find more wives and complaining about "right-wing social engineering."

aware| 4.10.12 @ 8:07PM

You are both right!

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 8:46PM

The country has entered a death spiral and all you can care about is Newt's domestic arrangements.

Yea, you've got your priorities right.........

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 8:50PM

And as for Gingrich's critique of Ryan's earlier proposals, if you haven't noticed, Ryan VALIDATED Gingrich's critique by altering his proposals and acknowledging the wisdom of Gingrich's criticism, that such wideranging and ambitious legislation needed a wider bedrock of political support.

So your comments about Gingrich are fixations about his domestic arrangements, problems with his valid criticism of Ryan's earlier proposal that Ryan backed away from.

What else?

If you're capable of discarding the proposal of making America the foremost energy supplier on the planet, and using the royalties that proceed therefrom to entirely retire federal debt, and if you're willing to discard all that because you've got a problem with him dumping his second wife who was a harpy.............. then you've got SERIOUS problems on establishing proper priorities.

LiveFreeOrDie| 4.10.12 @ 11:24PM

Taking Santorum to task on his conservative credentials while touting Newt's?

mjs_pa| 4.10.12 @ 7:21PM

As romney will not make the changes in D.C. necessary to avert financial disaster, the most irresponsible act would be to support him, vote for him and help him get elected. Let obama and the republican house bear the burden for the inevitable financial chaos. This more than anything will drive a stake into the heart of big government.

If romney would be in office when the bond market cuts up the American credit card, republicans and more specifically conservatives would be held accountable by the majority of the main street media and the electorate which seems to love its hand outs more than its freedom.

Electing romney will do more to kill conservatism and the republican party than his defeat.

Four years of obama is preferable to 8 years of romney.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:33PM

"Electing romney will do more to kill conservatism and the republican party than his defeat.

"Four years of obama is preferable to 8 years of romney."

Absolutely totally agree 100 percent!!

The 2012 Republican Primary has beennothing less than the total capitulation of the so-called "conservative movement" to the liberl establishment. The "conservative movement" is nothing but a paper tiger. Now "conservatives" are going to be falling all over themselves to support Obama-Lite in the vain hope that they will carry favor with the liberal GOP establishment.

What you brain-dead zombees are too stupid to accept is the the fact that the GOP Establishment HATES YOUR GUTS, and NOTHING that you do will make them "like" you. They continue to use you like cheap whores election after election after election. And considering your continued willingness to support the garbage the GOP tosses up, you deserve every bit of contempt they have for you.

The late Soviet dictator Kruschev could have been speaking of the way the "conservative movement" continues to bow down to the GOP establishment when he said of the West over half a centruy ago, "We spit in their faces, and they call it dew."

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 8:09PM

Thanks Tom, but to those who trust so-called conservative Republicans more than God to bring about the necessary changes needed in this nation will not listen to reason. They can't see past Barack Obama & the havoc he has wreaked on the nation with his policies. God will do what the GOP refuse to do, but only if America returns to Him.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:57PM

Yup. All of the disasters Obama has visited upon us will be laid at the feet of Republicans if Romney wins.

Plus racism.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:29PM

Will Paul Ryan be chair of the budget comm during a Romney administration?

Ryan is going to be a player in that whole thing.

Romney isn't alone going to be able to ram through some Rino agenda.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:51PM

No, he'll have Tammy Faye Boehner, Mitch McClownel, Karl "The Weasel" Rove, John Souternunu, and a host of other RINOs to help him.

LiveFreeOrDie| 4.11.12 @ 1:31AM

"Four years of obama is preferable to 8 years of romney."

You make a good point but the possibility of a supreme court nomination is too important.

Larry| 4.10.12 @ 7:27PM

Yep. Lets let Obama pick 2 or 3 more wise latina's and hunchback Kagens.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:47PM

What's the difference given the guy who vouched for Souter's bona fides is a key Romney advisor?

Clueless.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:34PM

Yep, why have that when Romney could give us more Earl Warrens, John Paul Stevens, and David Souters!!!!

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 7:42PM

Or, if we watch him like a hawk, and insist on conservative appointments, we could get another Roberts, another Alito, and if we're really likely, perhaps another Scalia.

If you want to see only the darkness looming on the horizon, go ahead, but our horizon isn't entirely bleak, and there are options we have to play.

Right now you're too bitter for some clear thinking.

What, were you buying into what The Other McCain was shilling? Santorum's candidacy has been dead for weeks now.

No money, his one on ones were defeats for him, there were other reasons too that his candidacy was going nowhere.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:48PM

Yea, his track record in selecting Democratic judges in Massachusets really gives me confidence that he will provide us with the next Scalia and Thomas!!!!

And if you honestly believe that, then you are dumber than I think you are.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:49PM

Oh, B.S. The crap some of you are giving Santorum is because he supported Bush for the sake of the party.

There's no such thing as "watch him like a hawk" because once a president is elected he becomes the de facto leader of his party.

Do you really think Tammy Faye Boehner and Mitch McClownel are going to fight Romney on anything given how loath they are to fight Obama? The party unity excuse is all they need.

My God, Drek, don't take leave of your senses----history didn't just begin!

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:02PM

Tef,

When has the party been so aroused against their standard bearer? When has the rank and file been so aware of their leadership wandering off the conservative reservation?

We resisted Bush on immigration reform, the Dubai Ports deal and Harriet Meirs. And that happened because the party finally, FINALLY became alert to the danger that Bush represented.

But this time the party STARTS OFF fully aware of who and what Romney is, and where he's likely to lean.

We're in a much better position now with relations to Romney than we were through the first term and a half of GW's tenure.

Sure, Boehner and McConnell aren't interested in fighting for a conservative agenda.

But they're not the only game in town, for if they fold fast to a Rino agenda, they're be facing a full-fledged rebellion up on the Hill and throughout the country.

Sure, a President becomes de facto party leader. But which party leader in our lifetime has faced a base as aroused as the base presently is?

You're underestimating the influence that an aroused base has up on Capitol Hill.

Is everything going to be fine and dandy? No, not by any stretch.

But if we stay alert, if we stay engaged, if we insist on certain things from our Republican representatives, whether the leadership really wants them or not, we can get our way.

Bush didn't want to place two staunch conservatives on the high court. He wanted two squishes, and he wanted them badly. First he tested the waters for a Alberto Gonzales nomination, ------------- which conservatives on the Hill blew out of the water.

Yea.

He tested the waters about Gonzales long before he got around to Roberts.

And he was determined to impose on us a moderate who would tend left in Meirs.

Which we rejected.

We've insisted on conservatism before against a hostile president of our own party, and we'll just have to do it all again.

But this time, no honeymoon period, no self-delusion that Romney is in any way one of us.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:54PM

Bush pushed through TARP, steel tariffs, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, and a host of other things very few conservatives embraced and even then only out of party loyalty.

In return we managed to keep Harriet Miers off the bench and shut down the Dubai ports deal.

Bush won and it wasn't even close----government grew dramatically on his watch.

As it will grow dramatically if Romney gets in.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 11:13PM

Remember, the resistance to Bush only rose up after 2005.

Bush rammed through a good deal of that while Laura Ingraham and others were still prattling on about him being a "great wartime leader."

Romney has no such honeymoon period.

Teflon, you know you're right about that litany you listed.

I know it too.

But nonetheless we need to find a way to impose our will on a Romney administration, and we're far better positioned to that now then we were when that idiot Bush went off the reservation.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:45AM

The better path is Romney gone and try again in 2016. The Republicans in Congress are far more likely to oppose Barack Obama's big government socialism than Mitt Romney's.

That's the political reality.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:53PM

"No money, his one on ones were defeats for him, there were other reasons too that his candidacy was going nowhere."

Yea, and one of the reasons for that is that pseudo-conservatives idiots like you did nothing but whine and cry for months about every alleged deficiency that Rick Santorum had because he continually out-performed fat boy Newt Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich had his chance in the 1990s, and blew it. He is nothing but yesterday's junk.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 8:53PM

When Bush tried to ram Meirs down our throat, the base rose up and insisted on a REAL nominee, Sam Alito.

I'm not in any way leery of who Romney is likely to appoint to the Supreme Court.

I am worried about other appointments, to be sure, and we're all going to have to watch him like a hawk, to make sure he doesn't wander far afield from his campaign persona.

This is how it goes dude.

Why the bitterness though?

Did you really think Santorum was going to pull it off? The writing has been on the wall for roughly a month, so where have you been?

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:09PM

Talk about biterness Drek. You've done nothing but go up and down these boards today to hammer Santorum any which way you can because he whipped your boy Gingrich in all but a couple of primaries.

You truly are a piece od DREK.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 11:09PM

Is he an adult man, or a kid?

Is he ready for the big leagues or not?

Was he somehow entitled to the nomination? Were we somehow obligated to support him?

I'm not bitter about Santorum, for the simple reason, like most Republicans, I never took him seriously enough to get bitter.

I'm bitter about Romney, but not Santorum.

If you bought into the Cinderella version of Santorum, I feel for you, for you feel you lost out on something.

But I never bought into this rosy coloured view of Santorum and his candidacy.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:19PM

You know what, it is YOUR Party. YOU want to support someone who spits in the face of everything that American conservativism has claimed to adhere to for over half a century, then that is YOUR right.

But don't expect me to play your stupid games. Don't expect me to beg for crumbs from the GOP Elite's table. And don't expect me to reward the Republican Party with my vote following decade of decade of them treating conservatives like whores. YOU may be willing to be a GOP whore, but I am not.

As far as I am concerned, I don't care if the Republican Party NEVER wins another election if they insist on having garbage candidates like McCain and Romney. and as long as they do, they will NOT get y vote.

And if you don't like it, then that is YOUR problem, not mine.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 11:11PM

It's not about the party.

It's about the country, whose claims on me far exceed any claim of party or ideology.

Obama is a dark malevolent force, which must be stopped cold.

I've got my eye on the target, and I suggest that all the rest of you maintain your eye on the target.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 9:14AM

Your mistake is in allowing wishful thinking over what a President Romney would do to cloud your thinking.

Look at what Governor Romney did and catch a clue, Drek. He wasn't "forced" to govern as a leftist---he chose to.

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 9:01PM

No, sport. We continually spoke the truth; namely, that Santorum had neither the funding nor the organization nor the ideas to prevail in the Republican primaries. Upon reflection, it does appear we were rather prescient, doesn't it?

But let's not allow that to detract from your brilliantly constructed post-game analysis ("we woulda won if you idiots didn't whine and cry because Santorum continually outperformed fat-boy Gingrich").

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:07PM

"[O]outperformed?"

How, by allowing Romney to focus his fire on the serious candidates, Perry and Gingrich, which he polished off first, then leisurely turned his attention to Santorum, who couldn't rise to the challenge of prevailing against Romney in any one on one.

I can understand present bitterness.

I get it.

But going off on a "fat boy," especially a "fat boy" who established a Republican majority for the first time in 4o years?

Have you any idea whatsoever how difficult, what kind of long, long struggle that was for Gingrich, to take a party of Rockefeller deadbeats and whip them into something that could and did defeat 40 years of Democrat dominance.

Who was it that defeated Hillarycare?

Take a good look at that guy you derided as a "fat boy," because it was him!

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 9:20PM

Back off, bro! I'm taking friendly fire, here. The fat-boy reference was a quote from the post above, and it was included for the puropose of mocking it.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:32PM

It wasn't directed at you Trin.

I got that.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:01PM

Gingrich got FAR more credit for the Republican vicotyr of 1994 than he ever deserved. And when it did occur, he screwed the whole thing up.

And now the Republicans are going to make the same exact mistakes after the 2010 sweep as they did in 1994.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 11:00PM

"[S]crewed the whole thing up?"

How?

By insisting on a balanced budget against many in our own party!

Don't you get it, there would never have been any budgetary insanity under the Bush years if Gingrich hadn't first been purged. Republican wanted to go on a spending spree, they wanted to emulate what they had seen Dems doing for 40 years, and Gingrich stood in the way of that.

Ask yourself this, what was conservative that was passed once Gingrich was removed?

What conservative item in the agenda did Gingrich block, that otherwise enjoyed widespread support?

Gingrich stood between you and the deluge, and you just haven't picked up on that.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:04PM

Yea, he didn't have the funding or the organization because idiot "conservatives" like you used every oppurtunity they could to take swipes at him.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 11:05PM

"[S]wipes?"

You mean like asking questions about his record, you mean asking him to explain himself about Arlen Specter?

You mean asking him to explain supporting a ban on political ads 30 days prior to elections in McCain/Feingold, {which should be better known as the incumbent protection act}.

The guy had NO executive experience, none, nada.

What part of that didn't you get?

He wasn't equal to the job, which is why he couldn't garner enough money to run in the first place. People didn't want to part with dearly earned money supporting a guy who hadn't run anything in his life and wrote an ill-advised book about the family!

What the hell was he thinking even getting in this thing!

Trinacria| 4.11.12 @ 3:14PM

You're right, Tom. It's all my fault; I shouldn't have taken swipes at Mr. Santorum. It does rather beg the question, though: If Mr. Santorum couldn't withstand swipes from us dumbass idiot conservatives, how pray tell do you suppose he would have fared against the swipes of the Chicago Thuggery Machine?

You see, it generally redounds to one's benefit to think through one's arguments before giving them public voice. Thanks for playing, though. Jolly good fun, that.

Eric | 4.10.12 @ 7:50PM

Reagan gave us Kennedy who is a squish.
Gave us O'Connor who on most things was a disaster.
Gave us Scalia.
You never know how a judge will turn out.
Unless a Democrat picks them. Then you know.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:57PM

Then the whole "we need to support Romney for the judges" is a bogus meme.

Just like we conservatives have pointed out all along.

And with John Sununu picking 'em, you're getting liberals, baby.

Eric | 4.10.12 @ 7:52PM

Tom-you do know governors are usually given a list of judges they can select,right?

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 7:54PM

Who gives them the list according to Massachusetts law?

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:14PM

As if any Republican could have put forward a Scalia in the socialistic Republic of Mass.

I blame Romney for many things, but not for failing to get through staunch conservatives on the Mass high court.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:55PM

He CHOSE to run in Mass. Which should tell you all you need to know about him.

Romney could have run in Utah and been a stalwart conservative. He ran in Mass BECAUSE he was---and is---a liberal.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 10:57PM

Teflon,

I've made the same point myself many times, that it was Romney who selected Mass for his political career.

I'm not a Romney defender.

But I dislike obama far more than I dislike Romney..........

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:47AM

It's not a question of dislike---we're well beyond that. It's now a question of how we turn away from the abyss.

Mitt Romney won't---he doesn't believe it's an abyss. He likes it. And he'll take the GOP Congress tumbling right off the cliff with him out of party loyalty.

The only answer is divided government for 4 more years.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 7:58PM

Who gave him the Romneycare blueprint?

And made him defend it to this day?

Who made him include taxpayer-funded abortion in it?

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 9:03PM

Uh...The Heritage Foundation. Next?

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:56PM

Nope. Romney's handpicked guru was a guy named John Gruber, a liberal Democrat who then went to D.C. and taught Obama how to do it.

After Romney advised Obama to use it as "a national model".

Next!

Trinacria| 4.11.12 @ 3:15PM

Who got the idea from...The Heritage Foundation. E-mail him and ask him, he'll confirm it.

Ken| 4.10.12 @ 8:03PM

So let me get this straight. We are to hold our noses and vote for Romney because he supposedly won't appoint liberal judges who'll tear up our Constitution. Romney's track record in Massachusetts wasn't very good in that department so why should we believe he wouldn't appoint liberal federal judges? No, this is one conservative who won't be voting for Romney this fall. Is Romney better than Obama by "an almost astronomical degree?" I don't think so.
When the GOP establishment's candidate goes down in flames maybe this will stop them from ever having a say in choosing our nominee.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.10.12 @ 8:15PM

I hear you Ken, but don't count on the GOP "Establishment" learning anything when Rmoney is crushed by BHO. You can't fix stupid.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 8:22PM

They surely didn't learn anything after McCain lost last time, did they?

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:29PM

Or Dole.

Interesting the way history repeats itself.

1994--HUGE Republican vicotry, because the Republicans ran as CONSERVATIVES.
1996--HUGE Republican DEFEAT, becuse the Republicans ran Mr. Establishment Moderate Dole.

2010--HUGE Republican victory, because the Republicans ran as CONSERVATIVES.
2012--AGAIN, despite the proven winning formula, the Republicans are once again set to to Mr. Establishment Moderate.

The Republicans deserve to get their heads knocked off this November simply due to their own stupidity.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:47AM

This is because the RINO Establishment considers the real victory to be keeping conservatives off the ballot.

That's the God's honest truth.

Caritas| 4.10.12 @ 11:46PM

That is right, "You can't fix stupid". Has anyone considered that the establishment Republicans were all educated in the government schools? Government schools are the creators of stupid. We all know that the government schools are bastions of liberal non-thought. Clearly, persons who come out of those schools have no idea how to think.

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 9:13PM

No; we're supposed to hold our noses and vote for Romney because the result of not doing so would be catastrophic. Moreover, if you believe that watching the GOP establishment's candidate go down in flames will teach them a lesson, perhaps you weren't around in 2008 - if the unmitigated disaster that resulted from that election was not sufficiently instructive, on what basis does one make the assumption that 2012 will be different?

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 8:22PM

I told you so. But then, so did most conservatives.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/s.....w-it-deals

This is what happens when you don't vet your candidate. It's a huge problem for Little Lord MittleRoy because he was 30 years old before LDS allowed the ordination of black men. In 1978---well after the civil rights revolution in the rest of America.

Trinacria| 4.10.12 @ 8:37PM

2 words: Harry Reid. 1 more word: Mormon.

Conclusion: the libs attacking Romney on Mormonism is like Quin attacking him on losing the Senate race by 17 points...

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:33PM

Democrats and obama will throw anything at all against Romney just so long as it sticks.

This is going to be the most wicked reelection campaign in our lifetime.

Obama is a real piece of work............

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:59PM

And after Romney spent millions smearing every one of his conservative opponents he deserves what he gets.

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:20PM

AMEN!!!

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 10:55PM

And does America deserve what it will surely get if obama is reelected?

Bitterness against Romney I surely understand.

But where does America figure in all of this political bitterness?

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:49AM

Your mistaken presumption is that Mitt Romney would govern differently.

His entire governance record is an argument against that notion---as is a review of his key advisors. There is not a rock-ribbed conservative in that bunch.

There is a reason for this.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 7:10PM

BS! There will be tons of conservatives in his cabinet and his government administration. Why? Because he's intelligent, thats why!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:38PM

It's called.........POLITICS for the STUPIDS out there [or maybe in words you can understand, aka Sheenisms......WINNING]!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 9:58PM

One word: Democrat.

Romney will get his @ss handed to him because he is a rich white man who never worked a day in his life and belonged to a church with an awful record on civil rights well into the 70s.

You can't run Richie Rich against the first black president and not have this narrative fail.

It was stupid to nominate him. He is an empty suit incapable of overcoming his obvious defects.

Trinacria| 4.11.12 @ 3:29PM

I dunno; I'm rather partial to rich white men, myself. I generally find more of my money stays in my pocket when they're running the show.

But, then again, maybe you have a point - I can see were folks would clearly prefer an underwhelming, unprepared, inarticulate, dishonest, race-baiting, divisive, unqualified black man who has failed in virtually every facet of the presidency and disgracefully stooped to pitting the wealthy against the poor, blacks against whites, and men against women in order to foment the type of discord that would facilitate his re-election. Why, a successful, financially secure white guy doesn't stand a chance against such a formidable opponent...

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 7:07PM

Nobody gove a rats behind about your social conservatism. You idiots have caused the 8% drop in female support of a Republican candidate due to your idiocy over the Catholic Church issues, and additionally Obama/Democrats are using same to say the RP wants to take away their birth control. Dumb bastards, playing right into the C&P playbook. Rick white guy versus Obama? Bring it on! Sharpton/Jackson/Holder/Obama screqaming about T Martin? Bring it on! Check out the racial composition of every prison.....bring it on! Crime stats? Bring it On! This country is sick and tired of this socialism of H&C from Obama/Democrats......bring it on! Alan West details food stamp usage increases in the last three years.....bring it on! White guy with the GD brains/intelligence/monetary success? Bring it On! Dumb whites w/o the intelligence to get/hold a job and having their women have to support them? Bring it On! Rick white guy with the intelligence and know how to straighten out this economy dying from Obama/Democrats' policies? Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.10.12 @ 9:00PM

After I voted here for Gingrich and he [like many other Republicans] has failed to seal the deal voting numbers wise, I have only one choice. I want good, not evil; legality, not corruption; capitalism, not socialism; domestic production of oil, not subserviant slavery to middle eastern [eventually Muslim terrorist-controlled) oil; enforcement of immigration laws, not ignorance of same for political purposes; equal enforcement of civil rights laws, not racial discriminated ignorance of these laws; governmental administration that assists/aids private sector businesses, not governmental taxiation/regulation whose purposes are to destroy this country and its economy; a governmental foreign policy that works the betterment of this country, not one that seeks its destruction; etc. What I want is this country administered by Republican Party candidates, not Democrats, and if I do not get mey wish in November, my country will sease to exist as we know it and have know it in a very short time thereafter. I pray for my country to make the ONLY CHOICE!!!!!!!!!

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 9:12PM

Some of you must have really missed what everybody saw on the walls for the last month or so.

Santorum wasn't going anywhere.

Romney had locked this up some time ago.

Gingrich is presently maneuvering so as to influence the platform, and make sure that it's much more conservative than what Romney and his crew might desire.

So why all this present bitterness and bile?

Santorum never really stood a chance, which was why the Romney team kept targeting Gingrich long after his numbers had been driven down by saturation strikes.

Romney knew who to fear, and it was never really Santorum, which he kind of casually polished off when he was the only one left standing, and only that because Romney prioritized his important opponents, and went after them first.

Santorum strutted the political cat walk, he was never a really serious contender, even when he was the only opponent left to Romney.

That's been pretty obvious.

Teflon93| 4.10.12 @ 10:01PM

Romney has pissed away all his money sliming his opponents. He had a 6 year head start on the race and the endorsement of every milquetoast RINO that exists.

And now he's walking into a buzzsaw of real political professionals with a conservative base that WON'T support him even to the degree we supported John McCain.

Real political genius.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 10:53PM

Tef,

well, we'll see.

I don't think Romney is going to have much difficulty scrounging around for money taking on obama.

Yes, he's about to run into a buzzsaw, but any Republican would have encountered as much.

Obama is a known quantity, the economy is in the tank, people have less disposable income, inflation is on the rise and everybody sees it.

There aren't any jobs.

We can win this thing.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:50AM

No, he can't.

Romney has ZERO appeal in the South. He has ZERO appeal to blue collar workers. And he needs to win both to win.

That's the reality, my friend. Romney hasn't a prayer here in NC. And if he doesn't win NC, he doesn't win.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:35PM

NC? Whats that? SC has more conservatives than NC. NC is an extension of DC with its federal employment base of Obomaite worshippers. Who gives a rats behind about NC? What has NC ever done of notariety, other than emply Dean Smith at UNC????? The South? What do you know about the South? Right....'''''NORTH'''''' Carolina huh, as in YANKEES!!!!!! Blue collar? Right as in DITCH DIGGERS, or in employees bout to be replaced by computers operating an assemply line within a manufacturing company????????

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 11:37AM

Well if as you say the conservative base won't support him, and therefore [because of same] Obama is re-elected, then the forthcoming total economic and financial destruction of this country will therefore be on THEIR/CONSERVATIVES' BUTTS for their lack of being 'real political genius' DUMBARSES!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 1:31PM

Right---because you RINO MittBots forcing "Mr Electable" on us means you have no responsibility.

You've been saying for months you don't need conservatives, you need moderates and independents. Okay. Go get 'em. Quit kvetching about conservatives as we are clearly unnecessary.

And being unnecessary, when Your Man Mitt gets whipped it's on YOU.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:27PM

DA, I'm not a Mittbot and don't give an excrement about him or any other candidate. I do GAS about my country's economic survival, which you DA's calling yourselves conservative are so ignorant of. Repsonsibility? You don't know the meaning of the word, DA! It'll be on me? No DA it'll be on you and your fellow DA's who'll stay home, not vote or vote for that socialist like in 2008. You whine about RINOS and want purity of conservatism, which is BS. Reagan as a conservative spent money like a drunken sailor on military matters......is that conservatism? Even Mike Reagan says his father had to battle the nuttballs like yourself when he was president. Responsibility? Go back to your Mickey Ds counter job and quit your stupidly whinning about conservatism. DA, if you had any brain cells you'd realize that this country is dying financially from this current present and decades of likeminded Democrat socialists. That is the focus, the problem DA.......not Santorum becoming president!!!!!!!!

Tom| 4.10.12 @ 10:22PM

"Gingrich is presently maneuvering so as to influence the platform."

Who gives a rat's rear about the platform??? These guys don't think that the platform is worth the paper is written on. At least Dole was honest enough to openly say that in 1996.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 10:50PM

Reagan battled to change the platform in 1976, and that platform became a source of change within the party heading into the 1980 election cycle.

I don't want to go into political history here, or the prominence party's give their platform, but suffice it to say that the platform CAN be important depending upon the importance given to it by those up on Capitol Hill.

Romney isn't going to able to get all his own way, there will be push back within the party.

You're failing to grasp how the political universe has changed after the disaster of the GW tenure, the disaster of '08, and especially the earthquake in 2010.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 11:43AM

That's a truely dumb statement. Of course a political platform matters. Are you so stupid as to not know the differences between the Democratic and the Republican platforms, and the fact that each so guides the political ideas/positions of those parties respective candidates? Do you not have the ability to distinguish between a Chuck Schumer or a Debbie Wasserman Shultz and a Chuck Grassley or a Alan West?????????

Eric | 4.10.12 @ 9:58PM

If Santorum thought he would win PA,would he have withdrawn? Serious question.

Drek| 4.10.12 @ 10:47PM

Very good question.

And one that the Santorum crowd doesn't much like to see tossed out there, for they know the answer.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:52AM

He didn't have the money and his daughter's very sick. You need lots of money to combat the Romney Slime Machine---and that's something you don't want to see tossed out here, because you know it's the truth.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 11:47AM

BS! He slimly used his duaghter's illness as a political crutch. He did not obtain the votes, and he was on the verge of being rejected by his home state of Pa [just as they did so in his last senatorial race]. He'll saying or do anything to get elected [similar to the jackars that is now at 1600] and we don't need any more of those types. All politicians lie for their livelihoods, but those like Santorum are extremely adept at it!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 1:32PM

His daughter has a terminal illness you sick piece of crap.

You MittBots are real scumbags.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:11PM

Excrement hole, so what? I know ten people or more whose children have faced terminal illnesses. What does that have to do with his POTUS qualifications? Why don't you SPLAIN his labor union prostitutions as senator and how that is considered conservatism? Are those the same conservatives who are trying to hang Scott Walker in Wisconsin from a political tree over his dilutions of labor unions representation of government workers in that state, AH? SPLAIN also Santorum's employment as a LOBBYIST before becoming a senator.......is that CONSERVATISM by chance???????????? You're an ignoramous DA!!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:18PM

You DA's calling yourselves conservative make me puke [to use a Rickersterism]. All you're after is a solution to your Catholic Church's molestations of children problem, or the fact that your daughters are getting pregnant and you are helpless to stop it. You DA's sit there night after night watching the sexual filth etc on TV and allowing your children to do likewise by giving them money to goto current movies, all produced by the POS Hollywood community. Or you allow your children to be indoctrinated by public school teachers concerning sexuality, homosexuality etc and then you whine about Romney not being conservative like Santorum supposedly is. Grow up and grwo a GD brain idiot. A POTUS isn't the solution to your problems.....look to your school board, look to your family's activities and exposures to Hollywood etc for solutions!!!!!

somnolence| 4.10.12 @ 10:59PM

The Tea Party is a tempest in a chamber pot. There is NO true "conservative" on the horizon. Obama gets thinner and grayer each day he looks at the internal polling in the White House. As far as Romney losing both NC and Virginia, well, that is the laugh of the day from me. I know better.

Eric | 4.11.12 @ 12:13AM

Teflon-Romney hasn't worked a day in his life? Give me a effin break!

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 8:53AM

He hasn't. Ruling Class to the bone.

And most of America doesn't consider hanging out in Bain conference rooms eating donuts and posing for pictures with a stack of greenbacks in his manicured fingers to be working, buddy.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 11:50AM

No, he ain't no cracker dumbars diging ditches that fore shore!!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 1:32PM

Point proven. Thanks.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:06PM

Yes....if you're standing in front of a mirror, it is!!!

LarryK| 4.11.12 @ 9:25AM

2012 choices for President:

RINO
or
Communist

Tough choice!

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 11:51AM

Only for those whose elevator doesn't go all the way to the top!!!!!!!

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.11.12 @ 9:37AM

You idiots!
Failing to get off your dead butts and voting Obama OUT is merely treason. That's right!
You are traitors to your country, just as much as Obama is.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 9:42AM

You moron!

Why don't you look at who you're supporting instead of the color of his jersey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU

How stupid is it to think a (-R) means somebody's a conservative?

Catch a clue.

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 11:54AM

The only dumbars is the one I'm responding to above this. Wake up idiot and quit mouthing off about jerseys etc. Google Jeremiah Wright for starters and reserach his GD America rants [and then try and figure out who sat in front of Wright for 20 years]!!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 1:33PM

Why don't you listen to what Romney himself said, numbnuts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 2:03PM

Why don't you DUMBARS?........:
'......US Debt Exceeds Euro Zone, UK Combined
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:24 AM
By: Henry J. ReskeU.S. government debt now exceeds the combined debt of countries in the crisis-riddled Eurozone and the United Kingdom. United States debt at the end of 2011 was at $15.1 trillion while European debt was at $12.7 trillion, according to a chart released by GOP members of the Senate Budget Committee.The Eurozone is made up of 17 countries, including France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Spain, and other smaller nations that, among other things, use the euro as their currency. Many of the countries, such as Greece, have recently faced a severe economic crisis brought on by heavy governmental debt that required financial bailouts. The UK is not part of the Eurozone but is part of the European Union.The Weekly Standard notes that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney frequently warns that the United States should not become like Greece and added that “with charts like this, that formulation might already be out of date, considering the enormity of America's debt burden...."

JASmius | 4.11.12 @ 12:59PM

{{The GOP ["]establishment["]...now must prove they can actually deliver a victory. If they can't, the GOP should have a figurative bloodletting that banishes them forever from party power.}}

Yeah, Quin, eagerly slobbering over the prospect of fratricidal "bloodlettings" is a terrific way to unify the party behind our nominee for the epic Republic-saving struggle to come. Because you would rather see America marched into permanent Obamunist bondage than pass up a chance to sneer "I told you so!!!!" at your fellow political prisoners.

Teflon93| 4.11.12 @ 1:34PM

The only difference with Romney is that a Ruling Class RINO holds the whip.

Not enough difference for conservatives, pal!

Oldefarte| 4.11.12 @ 6:51PM

Thats simply stupid!!!!!!!

Jozy Wales| 4.12.12 @ 12:49AM

I can't believe the stupidity . No one can be as stupid as you and the Romney hating posters are. So he isn't conservative enough for an ass like you , we should have a another 4 years of the destroyer of our country. You can't be this stupid so I must conclude you are Obama trolls . Good work for the evil one. I hope you enjoy the Zimmerman lynching.

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