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I’ll bet you haven’t heard this story:
Teens set kid on fire for being ‘white boy’
And if you haven’t, doesn’t it make you wonder if the lack of media attention is due to the color of the victim and the color of the perpetrators?
This country could be on the verge of real race chaos, with poverty pimps and race baiters seeing their chance for another 15 minutes of fame, or the chance to strike a blow for some misguided view of historical (white) American guilt.
The media has a lot to answer for, with their complete fear of criticizing blacks, even when they offer bounties on someone’s “capture.”.
But more importantly, what is our black (or at least half-black) president going to say to calm things down? Where is his stern rejection of the New Black Panthers’ bounty on George Zimmerman?
I know where: hiding in Asia while Kansas City burns, and while the Supreme Court looks to shatter his so-called achievement of Obamacare.
This is a man with no courage, no moral fiber, and no shame.
I trust Melissa Coon is not waiting by the phone for his call.
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C Bowen | 3.26.12 @ 6:03PM
In addition, it's important to call out hacks like Rich Lowry and Rep. Allen West for siding with the bad guys on this incident.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 7:40PM
It's a shame West allowed himself to be baited into this hoopla. Just when I thought he was a conservative I could support, he shows his true colors.
C Bowen | 3.26.12 @ 7:44PM
West voted against repealing Obamacare--one of the easier Republican votes going.
In light of his background and his cautious tone towards the Bales massacre in Afghanistan, the actions in this case are particularly vulgar.
Anthony M| 3.26.12 @ 9:57PM
All blacks in America, every last one of them, is black first, American second(or third or fourth). Rep West, a respected combat veteran, like the phony Colin Powell, have proven this again and again.(With apologies to Thomas Sowell).
JmsA| 3.27.12 @ 2:21PM
And don't forget Professor Walter Williams, he's also an American first, who served in the military, and tells it like it is.
Curtis Rasmussen| 3.27.12 @ 2:46PM
What a crock. I am American first.
Mike W| 3.27.12 @ 11:13PM
Ross - thank you for being the only blogger on this whole site with the courage to speak on this issue.
The other bloggers are cowards.
SCPOret| 3.26.12 @ 6:28PM
Funny thing - I don't hear an outcry from Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakan(sp?), the New Black Panther Party, Eric Holder, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC et al.
WHERE ARE THEY?
Isn't this just as much an race/hate crime as they claim in the case of Zimmerman?
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 7:41PM
When has a black person ever been convicted of hate crimes? It's only a hate crime when it's against minority.
albert constantine jr.| 3.27.12 @ 12:26AM
In light of the current coverage, that is a question I hear frequently put forth. I can’t speak for every jurisdiction, but if I may, allow me to relate an example where that occurred.
In the mid 1990s, I was assigned to a federal fugitive task force. Though we were assigned to two counties in adjoining states, we primarily worked in an urban environment. As we were patrolling the streets on a hot summer afternoon after our morning raids one day, a sergeant well known to my partners and me called into dispatch that he was investigating a “hate crime”.
One of my partners was a trooper who didn’t like anyone, and started to complain about hate crimes in general. I remarked that since we were nearby, we should back up our colleague, his thoughts on the validity of the statute notwithstanding.
We arrived at the location, and the sergeant was interviewing a large muscular black male, who was seated on a stoop. Blood was visible from a cut or two on the man’s head. As we approached to assist, the man stood up, and I recognized the look a moment later as he attempted to flee. He didn’t get but a couple of steps before he was caught, and taken into custody using only the force necessary.
Concealed down the front of his short were two bags containing a white powdery substance; one was real cocaine, one was “beat”, or another substance packaged to look like cocaine. Eventually, we learned the relevant facts of the situation.
Minutes before the radio call, at a busy residential thoroughfare, a motorist with his driver’s side window down was stopped at a red light, when he had been approached by a man on the corner offering to sell him cocaine. When he stated he wasn’t interested, the potential dealer announced: “I hate white people” and punched the driver, who was white.
The driver gave a return punch or two, then drove through the intersection, where he encountered the patrol sergeant a few blocks away, leading to the radio call we monitored.
As we arrived, the dealer was trying to explain to the sergeant that he was bleeding from the head as a result of a drive by punching. When he realized that his credibility was suspect (and the drugs that he was carrying would likely be discovered during his inevitable arrest) was the moment that he decided (quite unsuccessfully, as it turned out) that flight was his best option.
The suspect, whose first name was Tyrone , was on parole for robbery at drug charges at that time. Among the charges he pled guilty to from this incident was the Hate Crime (based on his statement at the time of the assault), for which he served a year or two in prison. Among the things the investigation revealed was that if he was selling cocaine to white people, he would frequently sell the “beat” bags, as he did not generally fear retaliation in the urban environment in which he was a member of the majority racial classification.
So, while it might not happen everywhere or every time, I can speak of this occasion where a black man was convicted of a hate crime against a white man.
BruceTi| 3.26.12 @ 7:14PM
Yeah, this setting a kid on fire was a horrible incident, hardly ever mentioned by the MSM.
Gee I wonder why?
I begin to more and more feel like, sorry to say, races/ethnicities/religions/languages should segregate from each other.
We have too much diversity.
PattyMor| 3.26.12 @ 7:23PM
Just where is the outrage for all the kids, women, and young men killed each day in the inner cities?
There are so many, its hardly news anymore. And the "race hustlers" don't even skip a beat and nary a peep about the killings. They're just another day in the 'hood.
DRed| 3.26.12 @ 7:34PM
Is this a joke? You don't see the difference between one kid being killed and another kid losing his eyebrows? Was there a difference in how the police responded to the incidents?
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 7:49PM
"Losing his eyebrows" is a huge understatement. They attacked the boy for being white. They followed him to his house, doused him with gasoline and set him on fire, telling him, "You get what you deserve, white boy." This is a clear, pre-meditated attack, and a hate crime.
"One kid being killed" was actually a black teen, 17 years old is almost a man not a kid, beating a man to the ground and the man using his gun in self-defense. Zimmerman had a gun to defend himself from an attacker. The kid in KC didn't have anything to defend himself from a hate-motivated attack.
Which one's worse?
DRed| 3.26.12 @ 7:58PM
Look, I'm sure the attack on that white kid was terrifying. But he's alive, and his eyebrows are going to grow back. This other kid was walking back to meet his father after buying some candy and he ended up dead, and the police didn't care. What would you rather have happen to your son? That he lose his eyebrows, or be killed?
Clint| 3.26.12 @ 8:25PM
This Zimmerman-Martin Issue Is One More Cheap Orchestrated Mainstream Media Race Hustle.
Bob Grant| 3.26.12 @ 9:11PM
Clint,
You must remember that the good Rev Al was a tour manager to James Brown so he knows all about staging a production.
He's the ORH - Original Race Hustler!
He gotsta get on tha good foot-ah!
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:46PM
Complete oversimplification of the circumstances. Of course, a boy going back to his daddy after buying candy is a story that the media can sell to start the frenzy we're seeing now. The actual story, that Zimmerman saw a suspicious person in a gated community, started following him but lost him, and got into a confrontation when the suspicious person got angry about Zimmerman following him, is not a story that can be sold.
I would rather neither happened to my son. I would have taught my son not to be confrontational in either case, so that the black teens wouldn't attack the white kid and so that Trayvon would just walk away instead of confronting Zimmerman and decking him. But there's a dirty little secret here, one that gets swept under the rug whenever black-on-black or black-on-white crime takes place, but gets inflated to frenzied proportions when it's white-on-white. The secret is that the black community has a violence problem, sustained through gangs in black communities and absent fathers. But you can't reform that, you can only reform laws so that the white man gets the chair every time he crosses the black man.
DRed| 3.26.12 @ 11:58PM
The suspicious person was a 17 year old kid who was carrying skittles and an iced tea to go meet his father. I wont tell you how to raise your child, but are you really going to raise your son to be polite and docile when a stranger is following him at night and he's doing nothing illegal at the time? We know Zimmerman was a wannabe cop, we know he was arrested for assaulting a police officer, we know he was tired of 'those assholes getting away with it all the time', we know he could have stayed in his car, and we know he chose to chase down an unarmed kid who doesn't seem to have been doing anything illegal. Now, do we know who did what in the actual confrontation? No, we don't. One of the main witnesses is in the morgue and the other one has stopped talking. But don't you think the police should have done some investigating? I don't know if Zimmerman is a racist. I don't know if this kid was the actual aggressor. But I do know that initial investigation was a joke. That's what was outrageous about this case.
Nick| 3.27.12 @ 12:23AM
You don't know much, DRed, as usual.
And, yet, you have practically convicted this Hispanic male.
Doesn't that make you a racist?
And how can Mr. Zimmerman be a racist in the first place?
He's Hispanic.
Every good bleeding heart liberal knows that minorities can't be racist!
I believe Spike Lee said so.
Besides, we all know that Al Sharpy-Sharp only jumped on this story because he heard that the shooter's name was Zimmerman. We all know how Al feels about God's Chosen People, don't we?
DRed| 3.27.12 @ 12:42AM
St. Nick! Welcome to the discussion. Zimmerman sounds German to me, not necessarily Jewish. Not that it matters.
Also, if you want to get technical, Hispanic is not a racial classification. It means a person who traces their lineage back to a spanish speaking country. I may not know much, but it looks like I know more than you.
Al Sharpton! Spike Lee! Who are two people who don't have anything to do with this shooting?
Nick| 3.27.12 @ 1:31AM
DRed,
" Zimmerman sounds German to me, not necessarily Jewish."
So what? Al Sharpy-Sharp is a moron and a huge anti-Semite! Like he would care?
"Also, if you want to get technical, Hispanic is not a racial classification."
It doesn't matter, one bit. Mr. Zimmerman is a minority. And all minorities are a protected class in liberal-land. So, since you have convicted this Hispanic male, in public!, this definitely makes you a racist.
This is called being hoisted by your own petard, in case you didn't know.
Now, I demand that seek re-education and sensitivity training at your local commie party HQ, okay?
DRed| 3.27.12 @ 1:43AM
Can you kindly point out where I convicted Mr. Zimmerman?
Nick| 3.27.12 @ 2:11AM
"We know Zimmerman was a wannabe cop, we know he was arrested for assaulting a police officer, we know he was tired of 'those assholes getting away with it all the time', we know he could have stayed in his car, and we know he chose to chase down an unarmed kid who doesn't seem to have been doing anything illegal." - DRed
You don't know any of those assertions.
"I don't know if Zimmerman is a racist." - DRed
You have no basis to ask such a question. Except for the fomenting of hatred by race-hustlers like Sharpy-Sharp and Jesse "Love Child" Jackson.
"I wont tell you how to raise your child, but are you really going to raise your son to be polite and docile when a stranger is following him at night and he's doing nothing illegal at the time?" - DRed
It's not illegal to follow someone, either.
Sounds like you have convicted Mr. Zimmerman to me. I did use the word practically in my first reply. Is that better?
Will you now repent of your racism against Hispanic males, DRed?
DRed| 3.27.12 @ 2:56AM
All those details have been widely reported or are from the released tape of the call Zimmerman made to 911. Will you now repent of your ignorance, St. Nick?
Nick| 3.27.12 @ 4:12PM
DRed,
Widely reported? Where?
In Mother Jones? Or some other commine rag?
You are persecuting a democrat Hispanic male. This makes you a racist. Period.
You need to learn to love your fellow man.
Dec| 3.27.12 @ 2:54AM
Isn't that the same Spike Lee that tweeted Zimmerman's home address?
A fair minded person would think a self proclaimed "real champion of his people" like Spikey would be respectful of "innocent until proven guilty" and more sensitive to the rule of law before enthusiastically promoting a new millennium lynching.
Simon Templar| 3.27.12 @ 1:33AM
The police did, jackass. The kid was far from innocent (drug user and violent) as the evidence is coming out. The case is not racially motivated and Zimmerman's story is being backed up by eye witnesses. His best friend that is defending him is black. He and his wife voluntrily teach black and underpriveledged children.
As usual, being the filthy communist liar that you are, you can not wait to come out of your whole and start exploiting the situation for political gain, smear, political correctness, and slander.
This is your nature. If conservatives had any sense you would be ignored and written off as mentally disordered and suffering from liberalism.
DRed| 3.27.12 @ 1:39AM
You didn't have to tell me that you don't have any sense, Simon.
Simon Templar| 3.27.12 @ 11:25AM
You did not have to tell me you did not have an argument, a reply, and a brain that is not programmed by your masters.
WL| 3.26.12 @ 11:53PM
I don't remember the white kid attacking the thugs who poured gas on him? The more that the story comes out...it appears that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman from behind. That's about par for the course, but beside the point.
I would rather my son not be a thug, that is what I would rather. Thug, in a gated community where he doesn't belong vs. Boy walking home from school...
You sacks of crap never get it and never will...You are a racist piece of garbage, DRed.
DRed| 3.27.12 @ 12:24AM
Black people aren't allowed to stay at the house of their father's fiance? Or is it just that blacks don't belong in gated communities?
2Anglico| 3.27.12 @ 10:48AM
Better catch up on the news your case is crumbling. Martin, ACCORDING TO WITNESSES, was on top of Zimmerman beating the crap out of him. Also, check out Martin's thug facebook pictures. Here is a quote from Martin's cousin on Twitter: "Yu ain't tell me you you swung on a bus driver". Your angelic portrait is gone.
BTW, EXACTLY what crime did Zimmerman commit?
MikeBee| 3.27.12 @ 2:02PM
DRed,
How could you be so cold, so callous? It's O.K. with you that a kid is doused with gasoline and set on fire, simply because he survived? You must not have an ounce of humanity inside of you.
Obviously, you don't see a difference between one man defending himself from maiming/death, and another defenseless child being pursued by attackers, intent on destroying him.
Trayvon's death is not to be taken lightly. However, if he, indeed, was inflicting severe physical punishment on Zimmerman, he deserved some type of retaliation. What is Zimmerman to do, lay there and let Trayvon kill him, repeatedly pounding his head into the ground?
But, your heart goes out to Trayvon, who may have been influential in causing Zimmerman's response. If Trayvon didn't like Zimmerman following him, then slug Z in the nose, knocking him to the ground, then walk away, saying, "Don't follow me around!" But Trayvon didn't stop there; he continued to beat Zimmerman, trying to cause severe injury or death.
A little child is pursued by a gang of people, doused with gasoline, and set on fire, and you callously claim that he only singed his eyebrows. You have more feeling for an (almost) man who caused the retaliation given him, than you do for an innocent child. What a callous, horrible human being you are!
We should feel for both victims. However, our feelings should be far more generous toward an innocent child than toward an (almost) adult who didn't have the sense to leave well enough alone, and deserved some sort of retaliation.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 7:39PM
Witnesses corroborate Zimmerman's self-defense claims. Zimmerman told police Martin decked him, dropped him to the floor, slammed his head into the sidewalked, and attempted to take Zimmerman's gun. Zimmerman was found bleeding from the nose and head. One witness is certain he saw Zimmerman on top with Martin beating him before he heard gunshots.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/tray...../id/433912
Now you have to ask yourself, if Zimmerman had a gun with the intent of murdering Martin, why would he call the police? Why would he allow Martin to attack him and drop him to the ground if he could have shot Martin before Martin got close enough? It doesn't add up to a pre-meditated murder, it adds up to Zimmerman's side of the story.
Another report is that Martin was suspended from school for possession of an empty marijuana bag. Martin's mother claims that this should be irrelevant, but why? Because it shows that Martin is not the entirely innocent boy the media is making him out to be? Because it shows Martin could possibly have been involved with drugs? Again, the "facts" presented by the mainstream media and the Sharpton-New Black Panthers attack mob don't add up.
Crassus| 3.26.12 @ 10:31PM
Supposedly, Trayvon was suspended from school for assaulting a school bus driver but that has yet to be confirmed.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:48PM
See, ONE MORE STORY. If anything, this says that we don't really KNOW why he was suspended. But there's three stories so far: Trayvon either was in possession of an empty marijuana bag, assaulted a school bus driver, or was just tardy. I think it says something that two out of three point to a black teen struggling to transition into adulthood instead of a little black boy as he's being portrayed in the media.
Cpm| 3.26.12 @ 7:56PM
Maybe if Obama had a son he would look just like young Coon, but he will have to recover from his burns before we know for sure.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:49PM
Luckily it's only first degree burns, so he'll probably recover from that. Lucky for him too that his attackers only stopped at dousing him with gasoline and setting him on fire, instead of sticking around to "finish the job".
Arjay| 3.26.12 @ 8:16PM
The point of this post? Do you really not know that the uproar that has built over this case has to do with three issues: That George Zimmerman chased Treyvon Martin because he was black and therefore suspicious, that he chased after him after being told not to by the police dispatcher and that the police released someone who put a fatal bullet in a young man's chest without doing a drop of investigative work.
Making the point that "Blacks commit race crimes and the MSM says nothing" misses the point. Calling people out for their lack of outrage at other crimes misses the point.
The point is that this young man is dead, he would have been alive if not for an over-zealous racial-profiler and his killer has not been brought to justice.
Nick| 3.26.12 @ 8:29PM
Arjay,
You have no facts, and, you have already convicted a Hispanic man. Are you a racist?
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:50PM
If he's white or hispanic, he is. If he's black, he isn't.
Bob Grant| 3.26.12 @ 9:20PM
"...George Zimmerman chased Treyvon Martin because he was black.."
"...an over-zealous racial-profiler..."
.... so where did you acquire mind reading abilities?
Condemning what you believe is in this man's heart is over the top and bigoted.
Drek| 3.26.12 @ 8:37PM
Zimmerman mentored two, not one, but two black kids.
Within his own family are black members, and he himself from what we understand, is partially black.
CNN declared the tape unintelligible, and it makes as much sense that he would have termed the kid a "f.... punk" as the term that has been circulated that he said.
audio and visual witnesses confirm his account more than they conflict with it.
His own bodily injuries corroborate his story.
So what do we have that suggests that Zimmerman tracked down some black kid and killed him.
Moreover, Zimmerman's earlier audio with the police indicated he said the kid was acting like he was "on drugs." Which we now have corroborated with his school suspension.
And who here doubts when blood tests return from Martin that it is going to indicate that he used drugs.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:52PM
And the media portrays Zimmerman as a murderous monster, when the truth is that he was the neighborhood watchman in a gated neighborhood and he was just doing his duty checking out suspicious people going through his neighborhood when Martin attacked him for following him.
Dixie Pixie| 3.26.12 @ 8:39PM
Gentlemen....We are not on the “verge of real race chaos” nor anywhere near it.
This incident is pure “Community Organizer” “AstroTurf”.
The MSM response is to create a crisis where none exists to distract the public from Obama's Great Depression.
Obama and the MSM are diverting attention away from the disasters Obama's policies caused to the classic “Debate on Race” so as to rally the base and use up the MSM limited attention span.
The “Justice Brothers”and others are trying to convince the black community that white vigilantes are shooting down black people and Obama and the Democrats are the only thing to save them.
Thus the 40% unemployment rate was not created by Obama's policies but by the Republicans as Obama and the Democrats doing their best to shield the black community from gun-toting whites.
Cynical but it works, as proved by the 96% loyalty rate to Obama.
Drek| 3.26.12 @ 8:45PM
Dixie,
put yourself for half a minute in the hell, the raw nightmare that the Zimmerman family is going through.
Yes, this is ginned up, and it's outrageous.
And the other members of society, the healthy, the nonpathological, are standing by letting it go on and on, and on.
Dixie Pixie| 3.26.12 @ 9:08PM
Drek....I was reacting to the authors suggestion that this incident could blowup and grow to a nationwide problem.
What the author seems not to know, is this is a common election year trick of the Democrats.
It is a deeply cynical and evil exploitation of a tragic event for partizan political results.
But it is not the start of “real race chaos”.
Down in the Deep South, we know the difference.
Finzi Holst| 3.26.12 @ 9:53PM
Dear Dixie Pixie-
Please see this: http://www.cdispatch.com/news/.....?aid=16252
Dixie Pixie| 3.27.12 @ 12:58AM
Firnzi.....What is your point.
Stuff happens all the time down here.
My point is, this incident is not a national crisis nor nowhere near it.
This incident is blown all out of proportion for crass political reasons.
Cynical and evil it is, but not a national crisis.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:55PM
A page straight out of Rahm Emanuel's playbook: never let a good crisis go to waste, even if it is a fabricated crisis created by the media and Sharpton.
Bob| 3.26.12 @ 11:53PM
What's really ridiculous is the truth, that we have black vigilantes publicly calling for Zimmerman "dead or alive".
Drek| 3.26.12 @ 8:40PM
The idea that this is even going to a grand jury is outrageous.
Political leaders are dodging their responsibility and throwing this man to the wolves of a grand jury that only sees a dated photograph of a much younger kid, and not the man that Martin had become.
Martin's facebook entries don't suggest that this is some sterling figure either.
We're looking at a railroading here.
This is really outrageous.
Bob| 3.27.12 @ 12:01AM
It's a real shame. It's an even bigger shame that Zimmerman will have to get a damn good lawyer to make sure the facts get presented to the jury instead of the distorted story pushed by the media. Maybe Casey Anthony's lawyer will help her. He's no stranger to a media circus against a client that has already been found guilty in the court of public opinion, and supposedly he left Anthony when she couldn't pay the bills anymore, and he has experience in the area as well.
Drek| 3.26.12 @ 8:43PM
So other than some who persist in branding a seventeen year old, who stands well over 6 feet "a kid," what do we have that suggests that this wasn't self defense.
What evidence exists that supports the race fixated, such as Sharpton, Farrakhan, that little jerk Spike Lee, etc.
Other than the fact that some young man is now dead, who supposedly went out for skittles, {as if that means anything at all...}.
Cpm| 3.26.12 @ 8:57PM
One only has to look at the usual suspects swarming over this thing to come to a perfectly reasonable suspicion about the facts of the case.
Simon Templar| 3.26.12 @ 10:01PM
Here is the latest from breaking story on Newsmax,
Zimmerman told police he got out of his SUV, but lost sight of Martin. As he walked back to his vehicle, he said Martin approached him from behind and asked him if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, the Sentinel reports.
Martin said something like “well you do now,” and punched him in the nose, Zimmerman told police. There has been no report of witnesses to that alleged initial blow.
As the older man fell to the ground, Martin jumped on him and started slamming his head into the sidewalk. In a 911 call from a neighbor, a man can be heard calling for help. Police say they believe it was Zimmerman’s voice, although Martin’s attorney insists it is the teen’s.
The Sentinel reports that one witness told police he was certain he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Martin on top, pounding him.
Zimmerman shot Martin once in the chest “at very close range,” police told the Sentinel. When they arrived, they found Zimmerman bleeding from the nose and head. He was treated at the scene but refused to go to the hospital.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Trayvon Martin Death: Police Say Witnesses Back Zimmerman's Story
Left Winger| 3.27.12 @ 12:00AM
We can't go back now. We are too invested. The white Hispanic must take one for what should be his party of choice. Once we had to coin the term white Hispanic we were past the point of no return.
MyGirlFriday| 3.26.12 @ 10:27PM
I would like to know if the photograph they are showing of Mr. Martin is a current photograph. I read today that he was six foot three and weighed 175 pounds. Does anyone else know if this is in fact a current photo? The idea that he was just a young boy (17 years old), and now the 911 call has been confirmed that it was Zimmerman who was screaming for help leads me to think that there is much about this case that is being covered up. Further, their is the eye witness that states Martin was on top of Zimmerman and the grass stains on Zimmerman's back along with his broken nose confirms what the witness stated.
Les| 3.26.12 @ 10:45PM
I remember as a kid seeing the black smoke along Pulaski Avenue in Chicago. It was 1968 and MLK had been killed. We lived around Pulaski and Armitage,about 2 and a half miles from where the rioting was occuring. My father,who had a delivery business,had been making deliveries on the westside just as MLK was announced dead. He barely escaped. His brother,my uncle,was thrown out of his taxi and brutally beaten. Blacks have committed many hate crimes.
Bob| 3.27.12 @ 12:16AM
Dr. King always preached nonviolence. All of his marches and demonstrations were nonviolent. He had a dream where his children could be accepted by the content of their character. The content of the character of today's black "leaders" is nonexistent. Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, all are filled with hate. They spit on the memory of Dr. King.
Dec| 3.27.12 @ 4:24AM
You forgot Eric Holder and his boss.
Bob K.| 3.27.12 @ 12:05AM
Well said, Mr. Kaminski! One of the best comments that has been made about this whole sorry mess!
Simon Templar| 3.27.12 @ 1:47AM
Yes, well said Mr. Kaminski! Now, perhaps you might get the reality that social issues CAN NOT BE SIDE STEPPED BY REPUBLICANS NOR SHOULD THEY RUN AWAY FROM OR AVOID DISCUSSING THEM.
They all have to be confronted and dealt with whether they are poverty pimps, race baiters, abortionist, femi-nazi's, atheist bigots, class dividers, or sexual perverts with agendas.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.27.12 @ 11:08AM
Simon,
I don't have time for a debate here, and not looking for one.
Allow me to make clear a short version of my views on social issues, so perhaps we can agree to disagree on certain things, and start to focus on where can can agree and make a difference.
I am not a social issues conservative, but I don't have an argument with anybody's strongly-held principles (other than, for example, principles of Islam which suggest I, as a Jew, should be dead.)
I also don't object to people in the private sphere trying to convince people that abortion is bad or that drugs are bad or whatever. I only object to the use of government to coerce adults to fall in line with a particular view on what I view (and I realize you might not view) as personal decisions outside the scope of government.
I also vehemently object to FEDERAL gov't involvement in any of these issues. To the extent there is gov't involvement, it should be at the state level.
For example, murder is generally not a federal issue, and neither should abortion be even if one considers it murder.
Conservatives make a big mistake trying to use government, especially the federal government, to impose morality because they open the door for ongoing meddling in our personal lives by liberal governments, such as we are seeing now with Obamacare -- and make no mistake, this is the left's version of morality.
By arguing for federal involvement to ban abortion, the right loses the moral highground, if you will pardon the pun, from which to criticize the left's arguing for federal involvement to fund various "reproductive services", or Planned Parenthood, or even different things like NPR.
However, I am not saying that there is no "culture war", nor am I saying that the left's culture warriors such as radical feminists, environmentalists, race baiters, etc., are harmless or should be ignored. They are a corrosive force on America and should be countered at every opportunity. The key is that those guys want to use the power of government to further their agendas. To the extent that the right lets government get involved in imposing any agenda that is outside of constitutional restrictions on federal activity, they pave the way for the left to use government to their ends.
I also hope that, although you included them in the same sentence, you see a difference between a doctor who does abortions (and I'm not talking about the fairly horrific concept of a very late term abortion of a viable fetus) and a "poverty pimp." I think you also make a mistake with a term like "atheist bigots", but again I don't much care what you think as long as you don't try to use the power of government to impose your views on others.
Simon Templar| 3.27.12 @ 12:25PM
There are two concepts of which you do not seem able to grasp.
One. Marxism which is the political and philosophical basis of modern progressives, socialist, and communist is a holistic political philosophy that rightly sees no distinction between the personal, the political, the economic and the social structures of a society. The cultural Marxism of the Frankfurt school that came to these shores held the core belief that in order to destroy this Republic it would need to destroy the social foundational blocks of American society via the courts ( particularly the federal level) and gain control of all those institutions that ENCULTURATE.
The second. This war is being waged not only on the local level but the national and federal level whether you like it or not or agree or do not agree. To concede the field to them and suggest conservatives stay off this battle front is suicidal and stupid. They will continue to use the courts as they have, the congress, and all federal branches of government to push their agenda which they are doing right at this moment if you have not noticed. They will continue to impose their morality or lack of morality and their "values." Striking down Roe vs. Wade and every other Left wing assault is a correction and not an imposition and returns us to the previous status of no federal involvement. Yes, get them the hell 0ut of our schools, get them the hell out of our faces regarding prayer, worship, and the right to use the word God in our valedictorian speeches.
Get them the hell out of our child face regarding sexuality, homosexuality promotion, and their diet.
Thinking that we should not fight them on the federal level is losing moral ground is ridiculous.
You have no choice. One must elect conservatives willing to take the fight to them and protect peoples rights to say prayers, eat what they want, say what they want, think what they want. They have to be countered at this level.
When laws are being written they need to promote freedom not limit it and they need to be written so as to not harm the family, our institutions, and our social fabric. This is where values come in whether you like it or not. Policy making has to consider the social impact. This is what social conservatives are arguing for not the ability to impose one set of morality or values or use government for an agenda.
No, I do not see the difference between any of these except perhaps to a matter of degree of harm and immorality. An abortionist is worse than a poverty pimp. The poverty pimp at least lets you live so he can exploit you. As far as atheist bigots you do not have to look far for them, a whole shit load of them just descended on Washington this past week spewing explicative and hatred for religion, faith, and people of faith.
Unfortunately, there are certain issues like abortion that must be dealt with just a race and discrimination or any other basic human right that is protected by our constitution. The right to life, liberty, and protection of property rights are fundamental. This is not negotiable and should be federally guaranteed as it is constitutionally supported and the only area that its involvement is necessary. As conservatives we have a duty to take a stand in this area because we lose all credibility and moral high ground if we do not.
W| 3.27.12 @ 2:09PM
Simon
I agree with the genral theme of your well written comment.
The unspoken premise of the Left's policies is that to have complete government control of our lives it must destroy all the institutions between the government and the person. The strongest institutions are family and religion. So the Left does everything it can to undermine the family and religion.
A perfect example if Obma's attack on the Catholic Church disguised as mandating health coverage. Obama's lackey Sebellius issued a regulation defining the scope of religion that it, the feds, deemed the proper role of the Catholic Church. Obama knows if he can beat the Catholic Church he has won because it is the largest and most prominent Church. The others will follow and all behave like good Unitarians.
This is consistent with historical attacks on the Church from the French Revolution to the Nazis to the Commies, all of whom tried to destroy the Church.
The left does not want just an end to discrimination of homosexuals. It wasnt to redifine the family to include homosexual marriages. Civil unions are not enough because it does not redifine marriage. Santorum said years ago that if a state cannot define marriage as between a man and a woman, then the state cannot limit marriage to two persons. That will be the next issue after homosexual marriage.
I suspect Kaminsky agrees with you but disagrees on the tactics. The problem is the voters want to focus on the obvious, which is the economy. The Tea party victories in 2010 resulted from focusing on the economy.
Simon Templar| 3.27.12 @ 3:29PM
W, thank you.
You stated,
"The problem is the voters want to focus on the obvious, which is the economy. The Tea party victories in 2010 resulted from focusing on the economy."
W, consider this.....
Various polls have also probed Tea Party supporters for their views on a variety of political and controversial issues. A University of Washington poll of 1,695 registered voters in the state of Washington reported that 73% of Tea Party supporters disapprove of Obama's policy of engaging with Muslim countries, 88% approve of the controversial immigration law recently enacted in Arizona, 82% do not believe that gay and lesbian couples should have the legal right to marry..... The Tea Party also has some clear ideas about national security issues that fall into two allied camps, the Paulites, who are strict isolationist and the Palinites who want to avoid unnecessary conflicts but want a strong military and focused win against terrorism. Both want to limit nation building and adventurism. So, you are correct in that focus has been primarily on limited government, fiscal responsibility, and free markets for the most part but the movement does have views on the rest as well.
Now, the fundmental idea that social issues are somehow detrimental to conservatives is a contrived myth. The Democratic party has built 90 years of political activity, success, and the justification of growth of big government squarely on SOCIAL issues and has not suffered in the least or lost votes from the so-called middle. Voters are always presented to be only concerned about the economy particularly by the MSM when they are losing the general populace on such issues as abortion, global warming, and a host of other lies. They trout out their version of economics called class warfare, corporate greed, and income inequality.
Now, the victories in 2010 were more about getting those not typically politically active off their couches and into the streets, voting booths and into strategy rooms to run and elect their own candidates. The general population of voters sat back and essentially did nothing, Tea party activist got out the conservative voters and overwhelmed the local elections. If voters only wanted to focus on economics then the Dems would stop using race, contraceptives, and planned parenthood as distractions and means by which to alienate and anger voters against republicans.
The main point I am attempting to make is that we need to not only address economics, but the wider issues of free markets, big government, spending, as well as expose the social agendas of the Left and their assault on the culture, the family, and our values. Their race baiting to their anti-religious bigotry must be exposed and challenged and must be presented to the American public for what it is and its part of the larger picture in their attempt to create an all powerful Big government.
If we lose the culture war particularly relative to our religious, speech, and self defense rights, we have nothing left to defend.
There is a reason why these appear first in the constitution.
As far as Kaminsky, he does not agree with me. He has a greater fear of religion and bible clingers than he does big government regulation and interference in the economy or the ransacking and destruction of our culture and social structures. He sees this as a small c culture skirmish much like alcohol prohibition and nothing more. He disconnects the personal and social from the economic and political. He fails to recognize that our fouding fathers believed that these were not seperate but integrated.
W| 3.27.12 @ 6:29PM
Simon,
I agree with your analysis and strategy. I have a minor diagreement on the tactics to win in 2012.
The Dems always campaign that they only want to help working people and never campaign that their goal is an all powerful nanny state. It is always they want to help you, and by incrementalism they have achieved the nanny state.
Our first goal must be to defeat Obama and get a conservative Congress with a Republican president to stop the growth of government, start abolishing agencies, and deal with the economy.
We need to reduce taxes and go with a national sales tax or a flat income tax to reduce the intrusive power of IRS, the most powerful agency.
I believe our best chance to win in 2012, with the economy and deficit and gas prices, is to focus on these issues. Obama would like a campaign about contraception and not have to defend the terrible economy.
I agree about the goals, just some questions on tactics. Just like the Dems did, we will have to dismantle the welfare nanny state agency by agency that affect social issues.
It appears the Supreme Court will strike the personal mandate from Obamacare which should end Obamacare. But if he wins he will try to pass another version.
Simon Templar| 4.4.12 @ 5:02PM
W, I do not have any problem with us focusing primarily on the economy, his record, and the national debt crisis and all the rest. Yes, we must keep focused.
My point is you will not be able to get away from the social issues and culture war as they will fight you and smear you on this front as well whether you like it or not. We can no longer just ignore these issues as they have cost us a great deal of political and image capital because we have not developed an effective political response and control of the narratives they create about us. We have to have a strategy to quickly and effectively dismantle their accusations and smears in this area and an effective response so as to expose their real agendas to the public at large. this is the point. We need to control the narratives about our positions on social issues and the values we truly represent, if not we will continue to be played, distorted and will continue to lose.
This is essentially what Ross does not get. It is not about government dictating morality. The only dictating that has been going on is the Left's dictating of their morality via the use of government to impose it. I want them out of this business.
Social conservatives only want to stop this dictating and remove all these laws promoting their social engineering agendas and those laws that they have created restricting basic speech rights.
The real issue here is the right of conservatives to speak on their values, not just the Left, and have those values not attacked, ridiculed, or outlawed.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.27.12 @ 9:47PM
Simon,
I most certainly do NOT have a greater fear of big government regulation and economic meddling than I have of religion. Not even close.
And I do not think the current culture war is small or insignificant.
I want to fight against the ability of people of any political persuasion to use the federal government to impose their morality.
The Founding Fathers believed in the importance of a moral citizenry, but not of using federal government to enforce or change morality. After all, as Madison put it, "if men were angels..."
I am as strong a defender of our First (and Second) Amendment rights as you, or anybody else.
You routinely misstate my views because it suits your purposes, your ego, or whatever. It really doesn't matter to me except that I want to make sure others don't take you at your word when you are explaining my views.
In the meantime, you should recognize me as at least a moderately effective champion of liberty with whom you have agreement on the majority of issues. But if you don't, that's OK too.
sirbourbon| 3.27.12 @ 2:29AM
Mannings Johnson was an idealist young communist that broke away from the communist party when he became throughly disgusted with the red party's exploitation of blacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manning_Johnson
The reds used racism and discrimination as a wedge to bring about race war in America. Social unrest would be the strategy to break down the power of the states. Mannings Johnson paid with his life for breaking with the communists and for telling the truth of what the communist were doing to America but using people like himself to bring about racial strife in order to build a centralized government in Washington.
Passage of the civil rights act fit in with the Leninist concept because the final outcome of the law was that the government in Washington won and the blacks lost. The CRA is 99% government and 1 % civil rights. That act had only one goal: breaking down the power of the states. If the law did some good it was insignificant compared to dissolving states rights.
That law hurt black businessess more than it hurt white businessess. Blacks wanted to go to the nicer white theaters and resorts and hotels and cafes. The feds used a law forcing businessess to run their business as the fed bureaucrats wanted them to run it not as private businessess desired. Evetually the free market would have abolished all of the petty discrimination since racists would have been forced to shut their doors due to their competition would cater to whites and blacks equally.
Bigger government has placed all American's freedoms in jeopardy with laws like Obamacare and the Patriot act that do one thing and one thing only: they grow the massive size of the federal government so that one day all Americans black and white will be slaves to the state because the states were withered away by laws designed to abolish their power as the original entites that formed the federal government in the first place! And now the states' own creature- the federal government- is threatening the states' existence.
Is discrimination against minorities bad? Yes but abolishing the states as legal government is not the answer as Germany found out after they abolished all the German city states and merged into a national German nation. Germany went from a small and weak central government to a large war-making government that saw the rise to power of a man that exploited the nation of Germany and its nationalized bureaucracy for his own political ambitions.
America today is getting close to doing away with the states power but with Obama has come a rising resistance movement. The states are beginning to rerassert themselves and demanding an equal share of power precisely because they invented the federal government! The states' intention was to limit the federal system to a few enumerated chores. Managing healthcare and handing out birth control pills and funding Planned Parenthood clinics that kill more black citizens in one month than racist mobs ever did in a century!
Where are the "civil rights" of the unborn-black and white baby? The federal government swallowed them just as the communist agitators had planned and worked the "whole of their lives" to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Gitlow
The communists got loads of help by their friends in the major media and their friends in tax exempt foundations that fronted them the money to hire the thugs and organize the mobs to take to the streets not too unsimilar to the OWS demonstrations of today.
martin j smith| 3.27.12 @ 8:52AM
This story shows the face of the Communist Party USA ( aka the Democrat (ic ? ) Party. As in the case of another article either you are for Constitutional Democracy or you support this garbage of race baiting and other related propaganda of the CPUSA>
Derek Leaberry| 3.27.12 @ 9:56AM
Every year in the United States, thousands of young black men are killed by other young black men. The black ballyhoo gang of race hustlers are little concerned about these killings. The only thing different in the Treyvon Martin case is that George Zimmerman is not black. That is the only reason why this has become a media extravaganza.
JP| 3.27.12 @ 10:32AM
Until the official investigation is complete, I wouldn't believe anything coming out of the MSM. We really haven't a clue of what went down.
Les| 3.27.12 @ 11:31AM
The city of Chicago just last week had 9 kids killed,all black. Maybe BHO and Jackson should focus on that.
Your Excellency| 3.27.12 @ 12:50PM
Kaminsky hates Christians.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.28.12 @ 8:27PM
Oh, yes, I hate Christians so very much. Like all the Christian candidates I've contributed to, and my Christian friends, and my Christian in-laws, and my Christian editors at AmSpec, and the other 90-something percent of America that's Christian.
Oh, wait, what does my hating Christians have to do with a young white boy being doused with gasoline and lit on fire by two black boys who explicitly attacked him because of his race?
therealguyfaux| 3.27.12 @ 2:05PM
One wonders if the MSM don't engage in what psychologists call "projection," i.e. they accuse others of what they themselves are guilty. One could easily envision a person, indoctrinated in the whole Liberal outlook on life, who has a job in the Media, who sees what's going on with the way minorities are held down by their own kind and are socialized to be violent and disrespectful of everything and everybody. Along comes this story, in which a young black man, whom these media types secretly are scared to death of, gets killed in a situation which at least somewhat admits of a racial-profiling explanation. These MSM types cannot admit to themselves that they might just as easily come to the conclusion, had they been there, that Trayvon Martin might, just MIGHT, have been less of an innocent than has been portrayed; that he might have been "standing HIS ground," so to speak, not wanting to be "punked," and so lashing out at Zimmermann. That Zimmermann had the temerity to actually do what these Liberal types cannot allow themselves to even fantasize to do, without a kind of sanctimonious overweening Liberal guilt washing over them, may explain why they seem to be crucifying this man in the court of public opinion without the benefit of all the facts being in.
Anyone who doubts that the MSM hasn't got this kind of "demonization of 'white' defendants- modern-day race violence" complex need only refer to the Duke lacrosse team case.
Oldefarte| 3.27.12 @ 6:18PM
Like Thomas Sowell editorialized today, the legal system should be and will be the final word on what happened rightfully. As indicated this race baiting by a so called POTUS and his street hustlers Sharpton, Jackson and the like is pathetic. How did 11/4/08 ever occur is the sad question that hopefully will become corrected on 11/4/12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Audrey O| 3.27.12 @ 8:58PM
The reason for the media hoopla, Al Sharpton's involvement, etc. is because the Sanford, FL police department is not arresting a grown man who shot a 17-year old boy to death. Zimmerman had no authority to question this young man, and continued to follow him after 911 dispatchers told him to leave the boy alone. In the Coon case, the local police are doing their jobs. If they were refusing to investigate and make arrests, and the police were black, that would be a valid comparison, but this is apples to oranges.
Oldefarte| 3.27.12 @ 11:10PM
You failed to note that same police department's chief stated that there was no reason to arrest the shooter based on the facts of the case. Florida's governor and attorney general have stated that a thorough investigation of this matter will be made and if the fact warrant, an arrest and prosecution will be made. Furthermore the US D of J under the legal eagle eyeballs of Eric Holder is also investigating same. What more do you want.....for an innocent person to be charged with a crime just because Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the street marching African American community screaming RACISM demand it? BS! If the facts of this extreme investigation warrant an arrest, it will occur. If not, the idiots demanding same can GTH. Oh as a sideline on thei racial circus, Heraldo Rivera commented that Hispanic and AA families should counsel their children not to wear hoodies as same demonstrates an appearance that lend to a guilt-like appearance, and later was forced into apologizing for same due to political pressure. Now The Democratic Party and supposedly Obama are involved in a national sale of hoodie sweatshirts with various inscriptions on same such as HOODIES DON'T KILL, GUNS DO! What stupid and insane nonsense but typical of the loones on the left!!!!!!!!!
vincent| 4.12.12 @ 10:16PM
Why is so difficult for some to admit that they hate black people. No matter what we do it will never be enough. I'm convinced that is useless to try and dissuade those of that mindset so I wont try. However please understand that we who love peace are willing to call a truce if the feeling is mutual but if not then