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Hey, Taliban: We didn’t mean to burn the Korans. Accidents happen. Get over it. We don’t kill people who burn our Bibles. There is no excuse for killing random, innocent people because a couple of your holy books reportedly were burned. What sort of sick society condones the killing of innocents?

Get a life. And watch your backs. We don’t take too kindly to seeing American innocents killed.

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Occam's Tool| 2.24.12 @ 3:24PM

Scum does as scum will do.

They acted in the True Spirit of their Prophet.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 3:36PM

How do know the Taliban had anything to do with it? You don't. Everyone in Afghanistan hates America, not just the Taliban.

Vern Crisler| 2.24.12 @ 4:29PM

And we hate them.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 4:53PM

Very Christian of you Vern to hate an entire nation.

Vern Crisler | 2.24.12 @ 8:30PM

They have the death penalty if a Muslim converts to Christianity. They aren't my enemy; they are God's enemies.

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:35PM

Well, Nock, tell you what---you get lost there, wearing a crucifix around your neck, see how long you live.

The moral arrogance of Libertarians is as boundless as their survival instincts are nonexistent.

turboline| 2.24.12 @ 4:33PM

Nock, just some food for thought. I came across this recently and it really is thought provoking. And it might dispell your thoughts on everyone over there hating Americans or the other many NATO partners. You are aware, are you not, of the now well over a $billion$ spent on health care for the Afghani people. This is not just in medicines and inoculations. It is in direct treatments, procedures. Quite a lot in the areas of dentistry and oral surgery in fact. There has been the whole range or medical care from reconstructive surgery to skin diseases, to burns, to newborns. Even prosthetics I am told.

It is still to early to tell because the first medical units were not in place until December 2001 and early 2002. So we'll have to see.

But you know how very short life expectancy is there, right? Men die in their 40's. Well, if permitted to go forward, it may be easily shown that a large number of Afghanis who have had medical care from the Americans will significantly outlive their fellow countrymen. Even those -- get this -- who have had time in detainment facilities. You see, often, the detainees have it much better than their fellow countrymen. Regular meals, a warm place to sleep, shelter from the elements, time to properly heal their wounds, dental care, and, yes, once more medical care like no one in their family tree has ever known.

So I am not sure that one can make the blanket statement that "everyone in Afghanistan hates America." Might want to rethink that one.

C Bowen | 2.24.12 @ 6:07PM

As Fox News reported, American troops are protecting the poppy/opium crop, so someone in Afghanistan does like the Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_54LJMwG4E

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:58PM

It's the way to bet if you don't make your living taking it in the ass from the Taliban.

Clint| 2.26.12 @ 6:25AM

Apparently, The Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster Smear Bund Coward, Tool Job Has Sugar In His Pockets And Knows About Such Things.

We'll Ask His Mancrush, Bibi.

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:10AM

so predictable of you to side with the Taliban, Clint-after all, they hate Jews just as much as you and your Tinfoil Hat Messiah do

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 3:33PM

Tough words from a chickenhawk. Muslims have their religion, you have yours. You don't like their customs, their religious traditions, then get out of Afghanistan. Africans believe in bush ghosts. Christians believe in virgin births. They are all wacko, you ask me.

chisel| 2.24.12 @ 4:19PM

Nock, keep it cool, keep it civil. Maybe one or both are wacko. Maybe.

The point is -- this surely was not on purpose. Dumb to do? Perhaps? Poor supervisory work on someone's or several people's part? Probably also the case.

But, please, Afghanis, chill.

Otherwise we're always on eggshells not knowing what is going to set you off like the Mad Hatter.

If a faith is a faith, it can survive its text being burnt or thrown out or shredded. Even if done on purpose or done on a mass scale (clearly not the case here).

Something is more than awry when an alleged faith entity (islam is not), goes bonkers looking for, salivating for, anticipating the next possible offense.

Nobody who has died in the last 36 hours had anything remotely to do with this incident. Some of the dead and wounded are well over 100 miles away.

Vern Crisler| 2.24.12 @ 4:30PM

The one custom we don't like is their terrorism, especially when they export it to our shores. You anti-Christians are insane.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 4:56PM

Vern, so you wouldn't be upset if a bunch of Afghan soldiers came over to your neighborhood and set fire to a stack of Bibles? You would be pissing in your pants, I'll wager. Can you say HYPOCRITE?

Paul McGrath| 2.24.12 @ 6:35PM

In all honesty Nock, I can say that my faith is strong enough so that I would not be outraged with those who would burn the bible. I would certainly not wish to kill them.

I would then pray, if that is the right word, and I think it is, that the Power That Be grant them some sort of serenity. Because clearly, they are troubled.

Vern Crisler | 2.24.12 @ 8:32PM

We don't go around blowing up their buildings. Get your head out of the sand, Paulista; they hate us because we're over here.

Hobbes| 2.24.12 @ 10:08PM

OMG. That's brilliant! Have you once heard a Muslim say I hate you because you are over there in America? Did you learn that from Hush Bimbo? Allow me to school you. They hate us because we have troops in their land. Why is that so hard for you morons to understand?

Vern Crisler | 2.25.12 @ 2:58PM

They hate us because we're over here. They hate our liberty, our religion. We stand in the way of their religious fantasies of world domination. How many more times do they have to say that before Paulista nincompoops understand?

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:57PM

Well, Hobbes, how is it that an American military officer decided to kill his fellow officers and civilians on American ground while holding a field grade rank and having had his medical school education paid for by you?

Ron Paul, like you, does not understand the nature of his enemies. Like you, (but unlike ME) he submits to terrorists. Like you, he is nasty, poor, brutish, and short.

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:10PM

Tool Job's The Screwball RINO-CINO Israel Firster Smear Bund Buffoon,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney

Ronald Reagan,
" Perhaps we didn't appreciate fully enough the depth of the hatred and the complexity of the problems that made the Middle East such a jungle. Perhaps the idea of a suicide car bomber committing mass murder to gain instant entry to Paradise was so foreign to our own values and consciousness that it did not create in us the concern for the marines' safety that it should have.

In the weeks immediately after the bombing, I believed the last thing that we should do was turn tail and leave. Yet the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there. If there would be some rethinking of policy before our men die, we would be a lot better off. If that policy had changed towards more of a neutral position and neutrality, those 241 marines would be alive today."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.

Oldefarte| 2.25.12 @ 9:17PM

Okay I get it.....you're a Paulista with your TOO SHORT SHORTS full of propagandized braniwashing, right? I'll give you all that.....they do hate us because we are over there. However they hate their own neighbors because they are of a different Muslim sect, they hat anyone carrying a Bible down any street in the middle east [except Israel since Massad eliminates that there], they hate people wearing modern clothing [ie skirts, nadbags etc] or listening to modern [or no doubt ANY] music, they hate anyone not bowing before Mohammed on a prayer rug, etc. Simply they HATE, and therein lies the reason why they are radicalized un-human pit bulls and are beyond redemption. They are RADICAL, not civil. They are MURDERERS, not victims. Ron Paul has some very good ideas about some things, but his [and his followers'] Obama-ish bowing and scraping to these radicals in brotherly fashion-style [saying that all they need is friendship and to have their land vacated] is stupid and asinine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 2.26.12 @ 6:35AM

Tell It To The CIA, The Department of Defense And The 9/11 Commission,Who Agree With The CIA's Michael Scheuer And Dr.Ron Paul, RINO_CINO Ruling Elites' Flunkie Stooge, Fart Face.

" Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World â€“ because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”

Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.

Oldefarte| 2.26.12 @ 2:48PM

Okay TRAILER TRASH BOY, so these Obama/Democrat administered governmental units agree with TOO SHORTS, right? That's exactly who needs to be disenfranchised in November because of their political correct BS of ars-kissing sheiks and ME terrorists [try understanding their PRESIDENTIAL APOLOGY to same recently, fool], dumbars!!!!

Hobbes| 2.26.12 @ 11:59AM

So they hate their neighbors. Who cares? You hate the French and Mexicans, probably. I also hate anyone listening to modern music and modern clothing, especially when they wear their saggy pants round their ankles. Big deal? "They are murderers!" I work with hundreds of Muslim doctors. None of them are murderers. And they don't hate America. They love it here, when people like you are not persecuting them. You, old fart, are a big, fat, stinking racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The world will be better off when your racist generation dies off.

Oldefarte| 2.26.12 @ 2:53PM

Hobbes, you're a dumbars. What do you think happens at Muslim religious services? Do you think that goodwill toward non-Muslims is discussed, fool? Where do you think the ideas of non-Muslim hatred comes from within their populations, dummie? You are a total dumbars and an insult to rational human beings!!!!!

Oldefarte| 2.26.12 @ 3:15PM

PS dumbars, read the following concerning your non-violent MUSLIMS[if you have the mental capacity to do so]:
'....Afghans Lob Grenades at US Base, Clash With Police ....Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:33 AM...Protesters angry over Quran burnings by American troops lobbed grenades at a U.S. base in northern Afghanistan and clashed with police and troops in a day of violence that left seven international troops wounded and two Afghans dead.The attacks were the latest in six days of violence across the country by Afghans furious at the way some Qurans at an American base outside of Kabul were disposed of in a burn pit. The incident has swiftly spiraled out of control leaving dozens of people dead, including four U.S. troops killed by their Afghan counterparts, in a sign of the tenuous nature of the relationship between Afghanistan and the United States.
Afghan authorities have launched a manhunt across the country for a driver they suspect in the killing of two U.S. military advisers who were shot to death at an Afghan ministry a day earlier. International advisers working at Afghan ministries were recalled out of fears of another attack.In Kunduz province, thousands of demonstrators started out protesting peacefully but then the group turned violent as they tried to enter the district's largest city, said Amanuddin Quriashi, district administrator. People in the crowd fired on police and threw grenades at a U.S. base on the city outskirts, he said.Seven NATO troops were wounded and one of the protesters was killed when troops fired out from the U.S. base, Quriashi said. Another demonstrator was killed by Afghan police, he added. Provincial police spokesman Sarwar Hussaini confirmed the casualties.
A NATO spokesman said that an explosion occurred outside the base, but that the grenades did not breach its defenses."Initial reports indicate that there were no ISAF service member fatalities," said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Brian Badura, referring to NATO's International Security Assistance Force. He declined to comment on whether there were any wounded.
More than 30 people have been killed in clashes since it emerged Tuesday that copies of the Muslim holy book and other religious materials had been thrown into a fire pit used to burn garbage at Bagram Air Field, a large U.S. base north of Kabul.The death toll from days of unrest includes four U.S. soldiers — two killed last week by an Afghan soldier, and two military advisers shot Saturday at the Interior Ministry.NATO and the British government recalled their international advisers from Afghan ministries in the capital late Saturday after the two advisers — a lieutenant colonel and a major — were found dead in their office, shot in the back of the head. The names of the victims have not been released.
The main suspect in the shooting is an Afghan man who worked as a driver for an office on the same floor as the advisers' office, Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqi. He did not provide further details about the man or his possible motive.....'

Oldefarte| 2.26.12 @ 4:06PM

'.....YouTube Helps Bust Times Square Terrorists
The Third Jihad Debate: Is The New York Times Islamophobic? Abigail R. Esman ...Indeed, rather than condemn 29-year-old Amine el Khalifi, who was charged with “attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction,” CAIR’s web site contains not a single reference to the event. Rather, it features a call to “empower American Muslims,” and a demand that Tennessee abandon plans for an anti-terrorism training module that includes information on Islamic extremism. What’s more, check its “press center,” and you’ll find a statement showing “CAIR Concerned About FBI’s Use of ‘Outreach’ To Spy on Muslims’ — precisely the strategy that yesterday kept the US safe from yet another terrorist attack that could have killed an unknowable number of innocent men, women, and children. But about “concern” regarding the Muslim planning that attack? Not one word.
(Is it worth noting, too, that the New York Times, which – at CAIR’s urging – criticized the incorporation of the film “Third Jihad” in counter-terrorism training for the NYPD, did not even issue a “breaking news” report on the arrest, nor include the story in its e-mailed digest this morning?)And yet, here are the facts:
•The number of “lone-wolf” terrorist-wannabes is rapidly increasing, not just in the US but worldwide. And Anders Breivik notwithstanding, most of those “wolves” are Muslims. That’s not a discriminatory statement. It’s statistical fact.
•The number of such attackers who have spent time in North Virginia is intriguingly large, and likely related to the number of Saudi-sponsored Islamic schools and mosques located there — including Dar Al-Hijrah, the mosque at which Anwar al-Awlaki, once second only to Osama bin Laden in the intensity of the threat he posed to America, served as imam. Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hassan attended that mosque. And so, too, did Amine El Khalifi. Yet to my knowledge, CAIR — which eagerly and loudly condemns the FBI and its investigations of Muslim extremists – has yet to denounce the Dar Al-Hijra mosque or any members of its leadership.
•Recent reports from Dutch Intelligence (AIVD) confirm previous American studies that show the rising influence of jihadist outreach over the Internet, and Internet forums and sites that seek to recruit Western Muslims for jihad. As CNN puts it, “The proliferation of extremist websites in English or other European languages and the emergence of charismatic clerics such as Anwar al Awlaki has spread al Qaeda’s message more widely than ever before.” I have yet to see a statement from CAIR that impugns these clerics, nor have I encountered any effort from CAIR to counteract their propaganda with a campaign of moderate views that confirm Western ideals — the kinds of things one sees, say, from M. Zuhdi Jasser’s American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
•Additional reports both by European and American intelligence and think-tanks also continue to demonstrate ongoing recruitment in the prisons, often aided by Saudi-sponsored imams and education programs. Yet CAIR has spoken out against government hearings aimed at investigating those programs.
So what I want to know is: why, in the face of this most recent arrest of yet another Muslim extremist seeking to commit mass murder on American soil and to destroy one of the great symbols of its democracy, is the organization that claims to condemn terrorism, to speak for America as much as for its Muslim populations, now silent? Why is there no expression of outrage among the moderate Muslim community of America at large, condemning those who use their religion to perpetrate evil? Why are they more outspoken about a headscarf worn in violation of the rules at an amusement park in the suburbs of New York than they are about the 36 homegrown terrorist plots perpetrated over the past two years, almost all by Muslims, aimed against the American people?We are listening. We are waiting. Tell us what we need to hear.....'

Nemo| 2.27.12 @ 4:57AM

They hate us because we exist; because we are civilized and they are barbarian savages. History is the story of a long, long war between civilization and barbarism.

Bob Grant| 2.24.12 @ 10:16PM

Nocklehead,

Moral equivalency wont work.

Stan Redmond| 2.25.12 @ 2:44PM

December 12, 2011 New Haven Connecticut------

NEW HAVEN — A Bible-burning vandal overnight damaged the city’s Christmas tree on the Green today, but public works crews hoped to have it relit by late afternoon as usual.
__________________________________

And do I need to remind you the OWS flag burning and defication events? Or even the picture of Obama's hero, Bill Ayres, stomping on the flag in a back ally?
No riots, no pants urinating, no killing...

PL| 2.25.12 @ 3:51PM

Mr. Redmond, you make the good and correct point. We shrug, we sigh, we get upset on the inside, but do no more than scold for a few seconds or just give a harsh look, hoping, most likely in vain, that the perpetrators will repair themselves.

Jesus talked about forgiving a lot. Matthew 18: 21 - 23. Or shouldering that Roman soldier's gear gladly (yes, gladly) for a second mile when just the one mile was the requirement.

There is such a huge difference. One is utter evil. The other is overabundantly good.

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:12AM

Nock, stacks of Bibles were ALREADY burned at the insistence of the Afghan government-next time you say 'HYPOCRITE', try to remember that !

beebop2| 2.25.12 @ 9:56AM

Heres a little chronology....

1. Muslim prisoners write incindiary comments in the Koran.
2. Writing in the Koran is a cured by BURNING the damn things.
3. The Korans ae burned.
4. Bigots start to attack those who followed their pronouncements.
5. Barry and his madministration apologize over and over and over and over and ...
6. Two OFFICERS are murdered today.

Yep.

The religion of "peace."

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:36PM

Always love the chickenhawk crap. Come up to Northern Minnesota in the winter, pussy.

Oldefarte| 2.25.12 @ 9:22PM

Hell no, OT. I spent two years [while in my twenties] working/living in Kansas City [and visited relatives in New England] up to my earlobes in freezing snow. Minnesota in the winter........nah....not for this old southern boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:33PM

" The New Hampshire Gazette

The Chickenhawk Hall Of Shame

name:
Willard Mitt Romney
rank:
Chickenhawk First Class with Distinguished Fleeing Cross
date-of-birth:
March 12, 1947
home state:
Michigan
missed opportunity:
Vietnam War
excuse:
None to speak of
preferred activity:
Trying to talk people into becoming Mormons
occupation:
Climbing ambition's greased pole

When your daddy's a Governor and a Cabinet Secretary, it's amazing how your odds of being drafted diminish."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.

Oldefarte| 2.26.12 @ 2:56PM

What does being drafted/military service have to do with serving as president, dumbars? What about being a senile old fool wearing TOO SHORT SHORTS.....is that a qualification????

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:12AM

Frozen Socialism? no thanks?

albert constantine jr.| 2.24.12 @ 3:37PM

At the turn of the century I was at the cemetery for the burial of a friend’s mother. As I left the ceremonies and started back to my vehicle, I saw several small American flags thrown in a trash can, presumably after graveyard workers cleaned up after Veterans Day and Thanksgiving displays had been left on several graves (this was early December).

I was deeply offended about this lack of respect for America’s symbol. I removed the flags from the trash, transported them to another location, and with a fellow veteran, disposed of the damaged banners using proper flag protocol.

As the Koran is one of the holy symbols of Islam, and the flags of many Islamic nations proclaim Allahu Akhbar, I understand the outrage when venerated symbols of your political system and/or religion (which under Sharia are one and the same) are treated without respect, even if it is unintentional. By Islamic standards, though, apparently I remain entitled to go back and slay all of the cemetery workers as a result of the mishandling of Old Glory.

Should I take the ultimate action against someone I see intentionally burning my flag, I might even get an apology from their president.

W| 2.25.12 @ 12:05PM

Two more Americans were killed yesterday, for a total of four this week, supposedly over burning their book. And Obama apologizes . Obama does not care about American lives.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 3:42PM

You don't like their customs, don't burn their holy books. Or better yet, stay home. Quit building Afghan bridges while ours fall down.

Skippy| 2.25.12 @ 4:32PM

Blow me Nicknock.
My daughter is in Afghanistan building bridges on orders from Obama.
When our Muslim POTUS tells her to build them here, she will.
Till then, kiss my ass, equivocator.

Al Adab| 2.24.12 @ 3:47PM

Ghengis Khan had a pretty fair idea of how to deal with central asia. Maybe we could learn a lesson or two from him. Inshallah.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 4:01PM

Another chickenhawk heard from. Ghengis Khan is roasting in hell. BTW, We are losing in Afghanistan, just like the Red Army lost there when The USSR went bankrupt. Is your idea to get more American troops killed?

Purple Lips| 2.24.12 @ 4:24PM

And all those Chickenhawks who lost thier lives on 911...

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 4:58PM

What are you talking about? The people in the World Trade Center were not demanding we send American troops (i.e. other people's children) to the Middle East. Maybe you should try a logic course, cause you make Zero sense.

beebop2| 2.25.12 @ 9:57AM

Apparently irony passes over your flat head.

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:37PM

Genghis Khan won an empire, did not lose it, Nock. Your ignorance and hatred of America are amazing, jihadist fellator. Wash the semen off your face and learn something.

chuck| 2.26.12 @ 6:04PM

I thought you didn't believe in Heaven or Hell.

Vern Crisler| 2.24.12 @ 4:28PM

I hear the military burned Bibles, too, over there. Now we have homosexuals in the military; and Bibles are out. Makes sense, I guess.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 4:59PM

Yeah, them damn homos are the problem, not homophobe racists like you.

Curtis Rasmussen| 2.24.12 @ 7:43PM

Don't you like how liberals lump race and sex together as if there is common civil ground between them?

Get a clue, Nock. When prop 8, the defense of marriage act was on the ballot, most blacks voted for it. As a group, we're sick of your tripe, even in liberal California. You're not making sense.

Why should I hurt a stranger is someone burned a bible? I would not. Yet, the Afghans are 10th century throwbacks uncertain of their religion, willing to kill at the slightest criticism. That would explain their violent response to such a small provocation.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 10:12PM

Who you calling a liberal , you fancy pants pantywaist? I am a paleoconservative, not a neocon hush bimbo chickenhawk. Your man Vern is a racist cause he hates Middle Easterners and he's a homophobe for obvious reasons. Duh.

Curtis Rasmussen| 2.25.12 @ 11:22AM

Dear moderator, could you find it in your kind heart to ban the anti-social reactive race-baiting patronizing liar troll Purp and all of its sock puppets to give it more time to crawl over crumbs under its refrigerator?

PL| 2.25.12 @ 11:17PM

Mr. Rasmussen, I am with you. Deleting the improper posts is not such a fine or delicate art. I think any good, proper, professional site censor on the web team for TAS could do this with ease. It does not take a lot of reading sophistication to recognize which posters. I am involved in several international news web sites where reader commentary is permitted by anyone, just as here. But, within the hour (2 hours on the weekends), they pull down comments that in no way contribute to the adult discussion of the topic.

I have no idea why TAS staff have not yet employed this. I believe they lose both readership and comment participation, because who wants to engage in stupidity.

People come here to think, express thoughtful opinions, and see a healthy exchange of ideas.

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:38PM

Shut up, Clint.

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:15PM

I Got $1000.00 That Says That's Not My Post,You Paranoid Short, Fat, Aging Puffy Bag, Israel Firster Screwball Smear Bund Asshat, Tool Job.

Take Two Shock Treatments And Call Bbi In The Morning, Head Case, Tool Job.

Oldefarte| 2.25.12 @ 9:26PM

$1000? That's what you paid for the mobile home, huh??????? Shazam!!!!!!!!

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:46PM

We Ain't Got No Mobile Homes On The Mainline, Deliverance Banjo Picker, Fart Breath.

Now, Go Brush Your Tooth.

Oldefarte| 2.26.12 @ 2:59PM

I'm sorry, I meant to say your government housing allowance. Oh and go KISS THOSE TOO SHORT SHORTS SO YOU'LL BE SURE TO RECEIVE YOUR NEWSLETTERS!!!!!

Stan Redmond| 2.26.12 @ 12:04PM

You're obviously not in the "No Labels" crowd

Nemo| 2.27.12 @ 5:04AM

A paleoconservative, so-called, is simpoly a leftist who hates Jews and wants America's defeat. There is nothing more contemptible.

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:18AM

paleoconservative, my @$$...you may fool your arugula munching comrades on PuffHo, but not everyone is that stupid

Vern Crisler | 2.24.12 @ 8:36PM

My understanding is that homosexuals are going to hell -- where you will be able to keep them company. They therefore have a much more serious problem than listening to my criticisms of American military policy. Besides, I'm not so much criticizing homosexuals right now, as I'm criticizing bitchy homosexuals.

fdog| 2.24.12 @ 4:47PM

Actually, Ghengis Khan was an enlightened ruler in the context of his world and times. Read "Ghengis Khan and the Making of the Modern World" by Dr. Jack Davenport. The Middle East would certainly benefit from rule by anyone following the lead of Ghengis Khan rather than the dictators, theocrats and kleptocrats now in power.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 5:00PM

Next you will tell me his men didn't rape and pillage their way through Eurasia. And Stalin loved his mother.

turboline| 2.24.12 @ 4:54PM

The question is allowed, though: Who was in charge of taking care of these papers, texts, books (removing them from this library?) and in charge with the assignment to dispose them?

What was he, she, or what were they thinking? The only excuse possible is that the person(s) in charge only thought they were ridding the site of books or pamphlets, stuff that has no significance.

NOTE -- guys --
***If you are going to dispose of korans, do it where there are no non Americans, only let 3 people be involved, swear each other to secrecy for life (okay, well, for the next 2 years), and no cellphones, cameras, no vids for the family back home, eh?***

Surely all our personnel there & all NATO personnel are very cognizant of the "I AM OFFENDED total muslim mayhem Machine" once the mullahs give the green light to hit the streets and create chaos. Yes?

The fake 'atrocity' of the flushed koran in the toilet at Guantanamo? How can every military member (even the newest at only age 18) be unaware of this?

Every body remember the Danish cartoonist? Embassies burned, people dead. Riots.

How about that hapless Seattle based low level journalist who called for the Mohammed cariacature day (something like this).

Maybe we need to spend less time on mandatory sexual sensitivity courses for all the troops and just review major flash points in the War on Terror since the first World Trade Center bombing. I should think that the 'Guantanamo koran' would always be highlighted.

I guess the islmaists were getting restless as they hadn't gone bozo like this in a while, well, uh, just a few months.

I hope that no one here thinks I am making light of this. I really cannot believe that we have to go on apology tours when we've lost thousands of American young people with even more wounded in these last 124 months of working to aid the Afghan people. We've done more to aid that people in 10 years than they've had done in charity and friendship for them in the last 1,000. I really don't think that this is overstatement. If Karzai and his cleptocrats that have personally banked millions of US taxpayer money in their own accounts is unaware of how good they've had it with our aid, well, lights out.

Keep a force there to fly the drone missions over Pakistan. Keep a force there to secure the minerals in the southeast. Otherwise, I say, time to pull the plug.

Ken (Old Texican)| 2.24.12 @ 8:00PM

Nock,
is a muslim troll. Ignore him/her.

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 10:15PM

Ken, you are a racist idgit. True conservatives unite! Ron Paul for President! Wahoo!

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:40PM

Nock, I seem to recall it was your guy making the money off the racist newsletters. Aaaand, as a guy who has to repair lives damaged by the drug epidemic, making it easier for mentally ill Native American and Black youths to get ahold of heroin could be defined as....racist.

I love Paul---"I'm not responsible for newsletters I made millions on..." and "Bradley Manning is a hero." Only a pedophile supporter could like that guy.

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:26PM

Tool Job's The RINO-CINO Israel Firster Smear Bund Buffoon,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman,Mittens Romney.

Mitt Romney Responds to Question about Bradley Manning / War Crimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtmGted3D0

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.

Oldefarte| 2.25.12 @ 9:28PM

Nope, but Ronnie's kissing Mitten's TOO SHORT SHORTS for a VP position, right???????

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:51PM

Do Your Homework RINO-CINO Deliverance Banjo Picker, Fart Breath.

" Mr. Paul, a 76-year-old congressman from Texas, sees his three Republican rivals as more or less the same politically. He can be tough on Mr. Romney, whom he describes as a flip-flopper with a dubious political core.

“He’s been all over the place on some of this stuff,” Mr. Paul said in a recent interview near his Texas home. But he seems to segregate those views from his personal feelings for Mr. Romney, whom he sees as a steady, dignified personality whose devotion to wife and family reflect his own values. "

The Tea Party Heads To A Brokered Convention.

CONSERVATIVE| 2.26.12 @ 2:40PM

Okay DELIVERANCE NED WOOPIE BOY:
'....Paul

Talk of a Ron Paul-Mitt Romney alliance won't go away...Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney debate Tuesday in Mesa, Ariz. (Don Emmert / AFP/Getty Images)February 24, 2012|By Michael A. MemoliMitt Romney and Ron Paul -- friends, and a political odd couple. But are they in "cahoots" in the Republican primary fight?Rick Santorum can't help but think so these days. Though Paul hasn't campaigned yet in Michigan, which at this point is a showdown between Romney and Santorum, Paul has a television ad running there that calls the former Pennsylvania senator a "fake conservative.".....an attack Paul gleefully repeated in Wednesday night's debate, prompting Santorum to later publicly speculate about a Romney-Paul alliance."Their commercials look a lot alike, and so do their attacks," he said in the spin room after the Arizona tilt.Sen. Rand Paul, son of the Texas congressman, added more fuel to the speculation the same day when he told reporters in Kentucky that he would be "honored" to be considered as a potential running mate for Romney. Hardly a firm commitment, but enough to drive the meme.
"Whether it's true or not that there has been an actual meeting of the minds in conversations and strategy developed between the two guys, it is clear that there's a hands-off policy between Paul to Romney and vice-versa," conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh said on his show Thursday. "Paul does not attack Romney. Ron Paul attacks every one of Romney's opponents; Romney doesn't attack Paul."Paul, who has maintained a fairly substantial campaign war chest throughout his campaign, has had a knack for going on the air against some of the lead "anti-Romneys" of the moment.So what would the two have to offer each other if there is an alliance?
For Paul, it's popularity among GOP voters that Romney needs. Exit polls from the initial primaries and caucuses have shown Paul tends to have support from younger voters, lower-income voters and those who lean independent – all areas of weakness for Romney.But Paul's voters also have been the most resolute -- to use a term Romney used to describe himself during Wednesday's debate – in support of their chosen candidate. There's hardly a guarantee that they would swing toward Romney if Paul dropped out.
What does Romney have to offer Paul? If the former Massachusetts governor wins the nomination, a seat at the table. Paul remained in the 2008 GOP race far longer than any other challenger, even after John McCain had clinched the nomination. But when it came convention time, he was nowhere to be found – not on stage in prime time, at least.Paul's delegate-driven strategy, if successful, will guarantee him a say no matter who the nominee is. But some believe he may have the best chance of playing a significant part under Romney. And if not for Paul himself -- who said he won't run again for his House seat even if he doesn't win the nomination -- then some think he's trying to secure a future for his son, Rand.Romney's backers deny any alliance, informal or otherwise.
"Clearly Congressman Paul has said things about Gov........'

Stan Redmond| 2.26.12 @ 12:05PM

Hate to break to you. "Muslim" is NOT a race.

Skippy| 2.26.12 @ 4:34PM

No, it's a disease.

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:20AM

Ron Paul is a racist, antisemitic, homophobic nutsack closet 9/11 truther

Bob Grant| 2.24.12 @ 8:00PM

Whadya say we pull up stakes and get.the.hell.out.of.there?

Leave whatever loud, destructive, calling, you wish but get our boys home!!

I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of the apologies, suitcase(s) full of money to bribe tribesmen, the IED's, and the "friendly" elements who hate us, the poppy fields, ...

They hate us, we don't care for them, there is no mission to speak of, there will be no democracy there ---- EVER!!

It's a 7th century backward country that doesn't want to change it's ways.

Bring 'em home!!!!

Ken (Old Texican)| 2.24.12 @ 8:02PM

Bob, I have to agree.
Just blow the crap out of the taliban camps.

Al Adab| 2.24.12 @ 9:26PM

My point above was that Ghengis DEPOPULATED central asia. There is little to be gained by expending American lives and treasure there. Obliterate the enemy and leave others to the land.

BTW Nock, you may call me many things if you so wish, but chickenhawk is not one of them. Two triangle flags hang on my walls and someday there will be a third. Thank you for respecting that at least.

W| 2.24.12 @ 9:35PM

Al
The site seems overrun today with idiots.
Afghan is not even worth bombing. It would only improve the landscape. Just leave. Not worth one American life.
Just came back from Lenten fish dinner.
Have a pleasant weekend.

albert constantine jr.| 2.24.12 @ 10:06PM

(With a tip of the cap to the MadHatter, who has been absent for some time)

There once was a troll here named Nock
Whose postings revealed with a shock
UnAware while he Seeks
That his ignorance peaks
And what he doesn’t know is a lock

Nock| 2.24.12 @ 10:18PM

Is that supposed to be a refutation of anything I've said? Or just bad poetry? The latter, methinks.

Bob Grant| 2.24.12 @ 10:32PM

There once was a poster named Nock
Whose worthy of ridicule and mock
He lets everyone down
When he posts like a clown
And they wished he'd go back under his rock

albert constantine jr.| 2.24.12 @ 10:38PM

If I could speak for him, I would guess the Mad Hatter would be pleased with your effort.

albert constantine jr.| 2.24.12 @ 10:37PM

It is not poetry, it is a limerick, which has some of the characteristics of a poem, but a different structure.

I need not refute what you say, in my limerick I am merely mocking you to another person who posts on this site.

The weakness of your posts speak for themselves, methinks.

Al Adab| 2.24.12 @ 10:41PM

Albert: another limerick

Once a young commissar Tasha
Defected and abandoned her dacha
The reason for it
They discuss not a bit
For she now runs a bank in Osaka.

albert constantine jr.| 2.24.12 @ 11:02PM

Al;

I have another money laundering investigation class next week, following which I might need to borrow your limerick.

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:25AM

there once was a moron named Nock
who's only girlfriend was a sock;
his brainwaves went south
when he opened his mouth
and showed his viewpoint is a crock

Al Adab| 2.24.12 @ 10:13PM

Thank you W and have a great weekend as well. Spring training just around the corner.

BTW during one early Arc Light B-52 raid in the early days in Tora Bora, the bombing flattened a hill and uncovered a gold mine.

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:41PM

As I have pointed out---don't fight with 'em, don't rebuild them---just destroy them.

Clint| 2.26.12 @ 6:40AM

Tool Job's The Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Israel Firster Smear Bund RINO-CINO,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:26AM

and leaves the Texas Tinfoil Hat Messiah out in the auxiliary parking lot, foaming at the mouth about Bohemian Grove and Mossad 'false flag ops'

Bob Grant| 2.24.12 @ 8:01PM

That would be "Leave whatever loud, destructive, calling CARD you wish but get our boys home".

spike59| 2.27.12 @ 6:28AM

a visit by SEAL Team 6 to Karzai's palace, followed by a 3 day carpet bombing of Kaubul, would do nicely

Martin Owens| 2.24.12 @ 8:30PM

They don't hate us because they believe we do bad things.

They believe we do bad things because they hate us.

They hate everybody. Afghans are so bat-s*** bloodthirsty that even the Yemenis think they're possessed. I know because a Yemeni told me so when I was over there years ago. When Afghans aren't fighting a foreign enemy or the tribe next door they absolutely have vendettas in their own families. It's nothing to hear of cousins and uncles and even half-brothers bushwhacking each other.

So the tale of a burned Koran is just the thing to bring them out in the streets for what they were gonna do anyway- scream and yelp and wave their arms and work themselves up into a froth. And then go burn the house or shop of somebody who had nothing to do with anything. It's what they do instead of a job. It's what they have instead of a life.

When are we going to understand? They DIG this. They dig being hopeless and futile and eloquently bitter ( around confiding foreign "journalists", especially) and hostile and murderous and completely, utterly, irredeemably f***ed up.

And blame the unbelievers.

Carpet bombing, anyone?

Oldefarte| 2.24.12 @ 10:17PM

Sadly, that old philosopher from Alabama [Forrest Gump] had it completely correct [when applied to these Muslim radical terrorists] when he said that STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ERG| 2.24.12 @ 11:47PM

Amercian Spectator posters are a strange lot. Of almost 50 posts nearing midnight American Eastern Standard Time, more than half of the posts above have practically nothing to do with discussing the catalyst event at Bagram AB (not even mentioned by author Hillyer) and the conflagration since.

What do those wishing to comment really come here to do? What are their motives?

Mine? Lament the unnecessary deaths of two more Americans. To mourn for them in a way. And to wonder aloud, quietly, what are we achieving there? Because I would have thought there would be discussion here about who shot those two Americans. Not one word about this from anyone here, as I would have anticipated. During this long series of missions this is not the first time we've had this form of fratricide.

So I have to wonder - Who comes here. And why.

Bob Grant| 2.25.12 @ 10:52AM

"Because I would have thought there would be discussion here about who shot those two Americans"

After 10+ years of this repeated occurrence, there's not much more say about the WHO. Regarding this particular topic, I'd rather snipe at inane commenters and type poetry.

PL| 2.25.12 @ 3:14PM

B.Grant: Go look at who the shooter of the two soldiers is. That is the story. The murderer is a specific person. Only come back here to post when you can type that man's name here underneath and what job he had at that time, his role. That is the story. Others like B. Grant who are blissfully ignorantly in the dark need to go do your world affairs homework and stop worrying about your pansies pre season MLB baseball training. Oh!!!! Baseball!!!! OH!!!! golly!!! gee!!!!

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:47PM

We should have peed on the Korans, crapped on them, and then burnt them. As for the two Americans killed---our opponents are tribal. Find the perpetrators, do a DNA test on them (ripping the skin off their feet should get enough tissue), go into the closest towns, forcibly DNA test everyone there, and kill the relatives over the age of 12. That gets the message across in a tribal setting.

Less mercy initially allows for more mercy later. More mercy now will result in less mercy later. We say we are multicultural but we do not take into account our opponents' culture and weak spots in our counter attacks. The purpose is to win, so that my daughter never has to be worried about NOT wearing a burkha. How many Afghans/Iranians die so that noble goal can be accomplished is of no importance, as ten million Afghans/Iranians are worth less than one Mayan American Princess.

So. My war aims are clear. The enemy is easily identified, and needs to be destroyed without mercy or pity.

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:54PM

I do mourn the deaths of the two Americans. I hunger for revenge. I wish to kill Islamists at the rate of 100,000 or so to one. I want them dead or submitting. I do NOT look at things from their view. Unlike Ron paul, I know that the purpose of war is to get the enemy to comply with YOUR wishes. Anything else,particularly when you have an overwhelming firepower advantage, will merely get your troops killed. We put boots on the ground to protect the non-existent innocent because our non-infantry weapons run too high a risk of "collateral damage." My view is that sufficient infliction of damage will break our enemies' spirit. They are slaves, not free men. Remember the 300 Spartans and the Persian wars.

Clint| 2.25.12 @ 9:56PM

Tool Job's The RINO-CINO Screwball Israel Firster Smear Bund Buffoon,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.

Richard Baker| 2.25.12 @ 3:18AM

Why the fuss? Most of the Moslem world can't read so obviously their "religious leaders" are using this as a pretext to soup up the "faithful".

Will| 2.25.12 @ 6:20AM

How did they find out about the alleged burning anyhow? Were a bunch of Afghani's and Infidels standing around a campfire when someone pushed a wheel barrow full of korans up and started tossing them on? Is this a manufactured event, like so many of these recently?

tr| 2.25.12 @ 11:09AM

Will, I think you are asking the right questions.

We really need some facts. Allegedly this book burning occurred at 3 a.m. Kabul time. So it would have been dark outside. Sure, I guess there is light if the burn barrel is already going. But it is not like the daylight one would have at 10 a.m. or 3 p.m.

I mention this to ask the following: How did these eagle-eyed Afghanis (in our employ, I guess) just happen by and have such good eyesight as to pick out these four? (just four?) books as korans?

Something does not seem right here. Are soldiers who know they are going to be burning a few doodled-on korans so daft as to do the burning where the locals might see or happen to pass by? Or was someone else trying to do the old library items burning?

And if the soldiers immediately ceased the burning and tried to salvage what could be salvaged once the mistake was noted, how can these Afghans get so excited about it?

I hope that the "alarmed and excited Afghans" who are now responsible for two dozen deaths are no longer employed at Baghram Air Base, no longer receiving U.S. taxpayer money as part of their wages.

MikeBee| 2.25.12 @ 2:56PM

Will,
It may have been like what militant blacks have done in the Detroit area for years. Spray paint hate speech, using the "N" word, on your own garage, call the press, and tell them you're offended. Korans may have been tossed in there by Afghanis, to incite violence and shame America.

k. bourg| 2.25.12 @ 9:21AM

Some people say that we all worship the same God, that all paths lead to heaven. If the muslims believe that it is pleasing to their god when they kill other human beings in response to their books being burned, I would conclude that what some people say is wrong. The God I pray to, the creator of all things, also knowm as Jesus Christ, has told us in the true scriptures how and why this is wrong. There is a difference in the gods we worship, one of them is no god at all. A tree is known by it's fruit.

ERG| 2.25.12 @ 11:00AM

k.bourg, islam is no more valuable than the national socialism preached by Hitler, Goebbels, and corps. Is Mein Kampf a holy book? Karl Marx's works? No.

There is only one faith because there is only one God. I think all Americans -- real Americans -- need to stop what they are doing this weekend and read the 10 Commandments, specifically the first two. Those first two answer any fogginess one might have about what islam is and isn't.

Kingofthenet| 2.25.12 @ 11:28AM

Which is riskier, being an American in Afghanistan or trying to buy a pair of Jordan's in the 'hood?

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:48PM

Wherever you are, King, is riskier, as you have no rules.

Drek| 2.25.12 @ 1:15PM

General Ripper should be on this thread, ----- but for whatever reason, he's fixated with his bodily fluids on some other thread.

MikeBee| 2.25.12 @ 2:59PM

If the Koran encourages Muslims to kill or enslave innocent people who don't wish to join their religion, but remain peacekeeping folks, then it SHOULD be burned. If the Koran encourages Muslims to treat their neighbors so poorly, then it belongs in the trash.

PL| 2.25.12 @ 3:25PM

MikeBee, we also need to no longer have the koran in the military's inventory. We obviously can do no right by them. I'll never forget seeing the pictures of Guantanamo U.S. military prison guards handing detainees their korans while wearing the white ceremonial gloves. That is one sickening sight. That is defeatism.

To avoid such (unavoidable to the everready to riot "I'm offended muslims") purge all military facilities, to include this Air Base detainee facility and Guantanamo of all korans.

Take them somewhere and burn them all. (Obviously well out of sight of any liberal PC schmucks)

Several parents this weekend are in absolute mourning for boys they'll never see again. All because we sought to serve these POWs better by providing them their evildoers doctrine. What kind of feeling does that put in a parent's gut?

Ban the koran from all our military activities.

It is evil anyway.

I personally think the koran a thoroughly evil item as the false teaching it purports to support. So we never should have been handling it or allowing it to POWs in the first place.

Parker Chandler| 2.25.12 @ 3:04PM

Wasn't the desecration of the "holy" Koran's accomplished by the Moslem prisoners when they wrote on the pages of the book in order to pass, "secret" messages to one another? Hmmm...?
And, just so you wackos know, I am going to start burning a Koran a day after I use the pages to wipe my rear.

Marc Jeric| 2.25.12 @ 3:20PM

Today two American officers visiting the Afghan Interior Ministry were assassinated there. I expect that Mullah Obama will issue another apology. What the real Commaner-in-Chief would do is to order carpet bombing of Kabul with at least 250,000 dead primitives, as a disciplinary measure, with much more to come if these murders are continued. But then, we do not have a Commander-in-Chief - what we do have is Mullah Obama, a marxist Muslim from Kenya.

PL| 2.25.12 @ 3:33PM

But let's be fair, Marc Jeric. This Afghan ongoing fiasco should have been terminated in something like year 2004 or 2005 at the latest. The CINC in DC stinks, but what kind of flag officers do we have? Every flag officer than has done more than a year in Afghanistan knows we cannot trust the very Afghan police and soldiers (army?) we've been allegedly training to ensure their own security. Every flag officer should have known that when we write their new constitution and it codefies islam as their belief and the official name of the post-2001 country has Islamic Republic in it, the mission is doomed. Soldiers lives are in constant jepordy from fake allies who shoot us in the back -- all while taking their pay from U.S. taxpayers.

Obama sucks. But there are over 50 generals and admirals who've had hands-on, eyes-on experience in Afghanistan enough to know that they should have made loud and direct, forceful recommendations to get out. Some should have said, we either do this or I'll resign my post and commission as a formal way to demonstrate my opposition.

Occam's Tool| 2.25.12 @ 3:50PM

Well, if they get to elevated Flag Rank they are more political functionaries than fighters anyway, with few exceptions. The one General who said that he loved killing scumbags was turned on, if you recall.

Clint| 2.26.12 @ 6:43AM

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Frog in Uniform| 2.25.12 @ 5:03PM

Those dumb ragheads... when I was a choirboy, from time to time we would burn a bunch of churchbooks which had seen better days or would be too damaged and there was nothing wrong with it. Should I kill a raghead with a Bible in his pocket? Gimme a break! Those people are bloosuckers, vampires and parasites and Islam is evil.

Dmitry Aleksandrovich| 2.26.12 @ 2:49AM

Why are we in Afghanistan? Are we hell bent on wanting to have the Soviet experience first hand in Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden is dead. Years ago we had the Taliban out of Kabul and on the run from both us and their arch enemies in the Northern Alliance (who are supported by Iran, Russia and India against the Taliban). We had accomplished what we had set out to do. All that was left to do was leave. But no the geniuses in Washington decided we embark on a mission of nation building taking up the mission that the Soviets had left. The Soviets wanted a socialist Afghanistan and failed to attain it and instead lost their own Empire. We wish to see a free and democratic Afghanistan and we to will never realize this dream and we should pray to God that the United States doesn't follow the Soviet Union into the trashbin of civilizations.

TRW| 2.26.12 @ 3:58PM

Dmittry A., the USA might surely enter soon the trashbin you speak of, however, it won't be due to this at times well-intended effort in Afghanistan. We're a big country with a lot of resources. We can do an awful lot of things simultaneously.

What will send us into the trashbin is our own internal moral decay.

When Americans want a rare honor of half staff for the flag for a OD-wonder flop of a 48-year old Whitney Houston, well, you just have one more sign of how morally stupid we are.

Afghanistan is barely a sideshow to our demise.

Dmitry Aleksandrovich| 2.27.12 @ 12:57AM

I beg to differ TRW. Our foreign adventures are costing a mint at a time when we are setting records with our massive debt and to pay for all of it we are printing money as if it were toilet paper. I agree with you about the moral decay as well, but as with the Soviet Union it will be our unsustainable foreign policies combined with the moral decay and the corruption within the system itself that causes the United States to come crashing down like a ton of bricks. It's all ready begun and Pat Buchanan will be proven right when the supposed melting pot called America resembles more the former Yugoslavia circa 1991. When people are poor and desperate and everything they believe in comes crashing down they will inevitably start searching for someong to blame and seek vengeance on.

Dmitry Aleksandrovich| 2.27.12 @ 12:57AM

michigander_sandusky| 2.26.12 @ 8:15AM

"What sort of sick society condones the killing of innocents?" Well, Afghanistan for sure, and the U.S. as witnessed by ~57 million innocents murdered since Roe v. Wade.

Fiscal| 2.26.12 @ 8:32AM

Let's get some perspective on this. How does a Muslim who kill a soldier burning their bible differ from an evangelical killing an abortion doctor? There are wackos in every religion. However, when you occupy another country and can do things without legal recourse there, it makes this even worse. We talk about the very small minority of Muslims doing things like this and not the 95% who are moderate and respect life. Do all of you hate so much you lose perspective.

There seems to be a time in the evolution of Christianity that Christians acted the same as the radical Muslims. I would claim that because of the illiteracy and poverty of most Muslims in countries like Afghanistan, it's not that different than Christianity in the time of the Crusades or Spanish Inquisition.

The thing that gets me is the intolerance of most of the people who call themselves "Christian" and think it is alright to invade someone else's home and act without recourse. I have no problem with going in and killing the people who attacked us, but we did that a decade ago. We should be no longer there. Then we go in and invade Iraq even though they did not attack us. To someone in that part of the world, it sure seems like Christians attacking Muslims. How would to feel if some Muslim country preemptively attacked Great Britain because they thought they had weapons of mass destruction -- oh, they do have WMD....

If we don't want people killed by ignorant, poor, religious extremists, then we should get out.

Becka| 2.26.12 @ 9:26AM

Bottom line response to your post. Yes, I hate terrorists that much that I have no historical perspective and choose not to weigh the reactions to our actions. I don't care about the historical perspective. I care about today. And, I hate religious fanatics in the middle east. Okay?

W| 2.26.12 @ 1:44PM

Of course it is wrong for an anti abortionisst to kill an abortionist, but to use that to create a moral equivalency between acting because a book is burned and a baby is killed shows you to be without any ability to reason logically and have a conscience.

An amoral idiot like you will say that is not a baby being killed and the Koran is deserving of more protection than the baby, right? What new name do you have for the baby today, a potential fetus or a potential life or what?

According to your analogy, Obama and people like you should apologize to the anti abortionists who kill an abortionist doctor because they are provoked by the abortion. You and Obama apologize to the muslims who kill Americans and make these moral equivalency arguments to justify a muslim terrorrist killing four Americans for burning a book.

You assume we invaded a country and acted without recourse and therefore the muslims can kill four Americans because a book was burned. Is burning the Koran acting without recourse justifying the murder of four Americans?

Did it escape your attention that the Koran was being used by the terrorrist prisoners to send messages? Isn't that a violation of some Koran principles?
Go crawl back under you anti American rock, and get lost.

Becka| 2.26.12 @ 9:24AM

Well, the post is great, but we are led by an administration who supports this behavior. Americans may be ready to kick tail, but Americans elected a passive and deceitful man, who disdains his own country more than he does the terrorists who are out to destroy her. Until he is gone, tough words are about all we can throw at the middle east.

Kingofthenet| 2.26.12 @ 3:22PM

Burning Books is so 20th Century, if you REALLY want to desecrate and destroy REALLY large numbers of a book, all you need is a computer and a PDF of the material in question.

Kingofthenet| 2.26.12 @ 3:25PM

First you use auto replace and replace every instance of Mohammad with Pedophile pig f'er, and go from there.

POST American| 2.26.12 @ 10:37PM

---Putting aside those ACLU items
on banning the unedited KJV Bible
in some states across America---

Time for another look at that
letter from the POPE of
'Free-MAY--SIN--Re'.

It called for 3 world wars.

2 of them to destroy the old cultures
of Europe and bring in standardization
(ie EUGENICS)

---the 3rd to be a grand finale showdown
between the montheisms --Islam --Judaism
and Christianity to disgrace, dishonor and
finally destroy them all to make way for
the Lucis Trust to bring in a 'world religion'
of self-EUGENICS and state worship.

ALL written in the 1800's.

CHECK IT OUT ---online.

POST American| 2.26.12 @ 10:38PM

-----------------------------PS------------------------------

That's the ALBERT PIKE ---Mazzini letter.

CHECK IT OUT!

tall wall| 2.28.12 @ 7:53AM

Romney saved the slc ut Olympics
Hitler saved the berlin germany Olympics.
These were not to make them good people, just hateful powerful people.

tall wall| 2.28.12 @ 7:55AM

Willard(Milton,Mitt) Romney tax break.

Romney should be ask too for a birth certificate with his real name on it. A selective service card too. He tried to use President Kennedy as a model, yet Kennedy fought harder to try to serve his country in the military than Romney fought to get out of serving his country. Romney chose to serve a man who was a sexual predator and a child molester, polygamist and polytheist, who claimed to be a prophet (Joseph Smith).

When Joseph Smith was in jail during his latter days, it was for treason (a crime against America). His followers didn't want him to shoot Americans, or for Amercans to shoot him.They only wanted him castrated so the molestation would stop.

tomtomclb| 2.28.12 @ 5:14PM

I am a schizophrenic loon walking down the street carrying my Holy Book, the DSM IV, and some American thug grabs me HolyBk and douses it in gasoline and BURNS IT!!! So I killed him... What is the problem???

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The Bush Crack-Up

By Brit Hume

Was the President done in by the economy, or by the politics of the economy?