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At the University of Mobile’s twelve23 site, I again examine the Obama assault on religious liberty.
Key passage:
To be very clear, this is a matter extending far beyond Catholic institutions. A recent letter by 300 leading scholars objecting to the mandate included signatures by Mike O’Neal, the president of Oklahoma Christian University; Thomas Hibbs, Honors College Dean at Baylor University; Daniel Akin, president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary; Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; professors of neurobiology, chemistry, biochemistry and other sciences from numerous colleges; law professors from across the country; Rabbi Meir Y. Soloveichik, Director of the Straus Center for Torah and Western Thought, Yeshiva University; and Chuck Colson, the beloved founder of Prison Fellowship Ministries.
The letter called the rule “unacceptable,” “morally obtuse” and “an insult to the intelligence of Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Jews, Muslims, and other people of faith and conscience.”
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Bill| 2.23.12 @ 4:10PM
Guess Who?
Voted for
1. Raising debt ceiling 5 times
2.Planned Parenthood
3. Medicare Part D
4. NCLB
5. Sonia Sotomayer
Voted against
1. Right-to-Work law
Ans: "Keystone RINO" Rick Santorum
Shirley Mitchem| 2.23.12 @ 4:34PM
I am a 70 yr Lutheran Christian....and all this crap of intrusion on any church is just plain hogwash.....
90% of All women in All Religions, Faiths use contreception......and Abortion....Fact is God does not want his babies brought into a world by females that don't want them, afford them.......Stop! your 17th century stupidity.......
spike59| 2.23.12 @ 4:58PM
I understand that women want everyone to 'stay out of their bedrooms'...cool by me...starting with my wallet
WL| 2.23.12 @ 11:08PM
That's the money comment of the day...which could fit MANY situations with these liberal cranks..
"cool by me....starting with my wallet."
THAT could be made into a great campaign commercial in a number of ways....
HEY HILLYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You ought to have some good Republican connections that you can get that idea too...huh?
Uh oh!!!! Sorry Spike!! I accidentally told hillyer...now we are going to see that meme in an Anti-Newt ad...
If Hillyer was named Gollem (or Smeigel)...hating Newt would be his "precious"...
Thomas Aquinas| 2.23.12 @ 10:10PM
Shirley you jest. The issue is whether the state should force the Church to offer and pay for it in its insurance policies. If a large percentage of Catholics use contraception, that's an interesting sociological fact, but it is a problem for the Church to address to its members. It is not the job of the state to settle this theological dispute by coercing the Church. The same liberty to allows citizens to purchase contraceptives and use them is the same liberty that allows churches not to purchase contraceptives and distribute them. It seems so simple. Why don't you support the idea that government should leave the Church alone?
Drek| 2.23.12 @ 10:28PM
100% of the people, of all climes, times and regions sin.
That being the case, should the Church cease it's "17th century stupidity" about that too?
Or is that now the task of the Church, to reconcile itself in an uncritical assent to the mores of our time, so as to make everyone comfortable with their lifestyle choices?
Think about the consequences of your proposals for half a moment. I thought Christ warned against the perils of trying to enter by the broad way, -------- for there will be many who said that they knew him, and he will respond, with a dreadful and terrible finality: "I NEVER KNEW YOU."
David W| 2.23.12 @ 10:43PM
Wow, Great talking points. Did you pick them up from Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the DNC? Let me ask you and the rest a simple question - "Do you believe that God wants his people to rut like rabbits in heat so that the government can, through increased taxes and premiums, force people like you and me (assuming you really are a 70 year Lutheran Christian) to provide free contraceptives to the ladies rutting like rabbits in heat?"
Perhaps if you and others would stop with your 19th century stupidity (when Karl Marx was around) you would understand the issue is not with contraceptives but forcing others to pay for them against their religious views. Many of us don't care that you use contraceptives, we just don't want to pay for yours. I can buy condoms from Amazon for 75 cents a piece? You can't afford $275 a year to have sex every day? Why do they need free contraceptives? Do they also need Mommy to help them put them on?
If you or someone else want to "knock boots" with anyone else at the drop of a hat fine, I don't care too much and I hope that you do use contraceptives - I would hate to bring in an unwanted child. But just don't make me have to pay for their condoms or IUDs or foam or diaphrams. IF they CHOOSE to have sex (which, by the way, is also called MAKING BABIES) then they should pay for their own darn contraceptives.
I'll leave with a final question, Ms. 70 year Lutheran Christian. At what point is an unborn child considered a life that "shall not be killed" (remember those pesky 10 Suggestions, oh wait, Commandments)? Is it only after the unwanted child is born would killing it be a sin? Is it only after they are viable - which can be several months before birth? Do you really, honestly believe, as a 70 year Lutheran Christian, that God wants an unborn child, which is the most innocent, helpless, and precious life there is, to be killed? Tell you what, when you die wait for me. We can go before God together and explain our position to him - why you support abortion and why I don't. Wonder which of us has more to worry about?
Tim the Enchanter| 2.24.12 @ 10:04AM
Sorry, Shirley- you can't be both a Lutheran and a Christian- the terms are mutually exclusive. And I guess you must have a private line from your ear to God's, even though 2,000 years of Christian tradition flies in the face of your statement.
Kingofthenet| 2.23.12 @ 5:27PM
Keep the Church out of Women's Vaginas ...and little Boys Asses.
WL| 2.23.12 @ 11:14PM
Hey Kingofthenet...
Did posting that comment give you the little rush you were looking for??? Do you get your little kicks from posting that sort of thing?
By the way, I can tell you are not the type that just posted that even to be cute and immature...you posted that garbage because you are a little man...I have come across many coward like you before. No, I've never met you, but you are all the same...When it comes to being a real man...you don't cut the mustard...so you act out like that. You know nothing about being a real man, and it is sad indeed.
We will never know who you are...and I am sure that you will post some garbage to "get back at me for saying something to you"...but we know that you know...and I know that you know...and you know that I know....
What a sad little person you are...and you have to sleep with that at night..
Clint| 2.24.12 @ 4:03AM
Keep The American Public School Sex Perverts Out Of Our Public School Students, ObamaThing, Kindofanut.
"According to a draft report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, in compliance with the 2002 "No Child Left Behind" act signed into law by President Bush, between 6 percent and 10 percent of public school children across the country have been sexually abused or harassed by public school employees and teachers.
Charol Shakeshaft, the Hofstra University scholar who prepared the report, said the number of abuse cases—which range from unwanted sexual comments to rape—could be much higher.
To support her contention, Shakeshaft compared the priest abuse data with data collected in a national survey for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000. Extrapolating data from the latter, she estimated roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a school employee from a single decade—1991-2000.That compares with about five decades of cases of abusive priests.
Such figures led her to contend "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."