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Read it and weep, Romney and Paul fans. Rick Santorum was a real conservative, even under G.W. Bush. he still is.
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PCP Smoker| 2.15.12 @ 9:07PM
Not true. Romney is the ONLY TRUE, HARDCORE conservative in the race, severely conservative. If you don't believe me, ask Lisa Murkouski, Bob Dole, John Sununu, and Jennifer Rubin.
Garfield| 2.16.12 @ 1:24AM
Explains why Romney was running to the left of Ted Kennedy...
Drek| 2.16.12 @ 6:22AM
Yea, how can any of us possibly doubt Lisa Murkowski........?
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 6:48AM
Big Government Ricky Santorum's Record On Voting For Earmarks, Even The Bridge To Nowhere, His Support For The Lobbyist "K-Street Project" , His Tariff Votes, Medicare Prescription Drugs, No Child Left Behind,Etc. Is Gonna Sink Him With Tea Party Patriots.
Israel Firsters Won't Be Able To Carry The Chickenhawk Santorum ,The Big Government Statist.
WL| 2.16.12 @ 8:47AM
Good Morning their Egghead Clint!!
Your boy Ron Paul just allowed himself to get thrown out with the garbage in Maine!!! Romney had his peeps disqualify a few counties which might have given him an edge...Heck...it took Santorum several weeks to get the real results and the win in Iowa...but your boy just laid down without a fight!!!
It seems that Dr. PHONY is only about screaming and doing his impression of Ralph Nader and Howard Dean's love child when it doesn't add up to anything and nothing is on the line...
He's kinda starting to remind me of the Dole's, Lugar's, and McCain's of the Good ol' Boy Club...
Slash and burn with Rhetoric when you have no chance to win...
But take the ol DIVE when you do...
Yep you have been duped.
You should call Jim Carey and see if he will agree to make a movie with you...
DUPED AND DUPER
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:11PM
The proper form is "there" not "their." "Their" is the possessive form.
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 9:05PM
Do Your Homework Before Ya Run Your Uninformed Mouth, Buffoon WL.
" As Rachel Maddow explains in this report, the Ron Paul strategy is to let the caucus results fall where they may, and then ensure Ron Paul delegates are elected to the convention. Because these caucus results are non-binding, it ensures that the votes matter less than the delegates sent to the convention. And right now, the Iowa, Minnesota, and likely Maine delegates will be attending not for Mitt Romney, but Ron Paul. Not for Gingrich or Santorum, but Ron Paul.
The strategy is pretty simple and not secret, as explained by Ron Paul strategist Doug Wead:
WEAD: I watch television and I see them saying Romney has this many delegates and Santorum this many, and as you know, not a single delegate has been awarded from Iowa or Minnesota or Missouri or Colorado or Nevada, and as you point out, we're tracking this at the precinct level, we think we have the majority of them, we think we've won in Iowa, we won in Minnesota, we won in Colorado, and Missouri is yet to be seen. And we think we probably won in Nevada, because we're counting the precinct votes. The only thing that I might add there is nothing wrong or deceptive about this, anybody can stay. Woody Allen says 80% of success is showing up. Our people show up. and they have a right to do that, and they are committed, and so they are running as delegates at the precinct level to the county convention where they will again run as delegates from the county convention to the state convention."
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Sean| 2.15.12 @ 9:32PM
Santorum looks like Ted Kennedy compared to Ron Paul. Ron Paul wasn't voting for unbalanced budgets and Medicare part D.
Götterdämmerung| 2.15.12 @ 11:02PM
Santorum may be beat on Medicare part D, but then again he is the most vehemently against Obamacare and Romneycare of anyone on the stage, and he wins on other issues. He's the only one to take amnesty for illegals off the table, he's the most anti abortion and best of all; he isn't Neville Chamberlain to the islamists. Ron Paul is plain and simple a crazy man when it comes to foreign policy. Whoever is president can't be hurt giving him important posts in respect to the economy, and state rights but he can't be trusted to deal with external enemies at all.
Sean| 2.15.12 @ 11:15PM
Ron Paul is the only one running that has been 100% correct on the economy and foreign affairs. Santorum thought it was a good idea to fight the Iraq war. It has been a total waste in blood and treasury for no gain to the USA at all.
Garfield| 2.16.12 @ 1:25AM
Ron Paul is also the one that is generally wrong on Foreign Policy.
Anyone that doesn't see why a fanatic having access to nuclear weapons is a bad thing, has no business being President of the United States.
Hobbes| 2.16.12 @ 9:41AM
Garfield, when you say a fanatic having access to nuclear weapons, are you talking about anti-evolutionist Ricky Santorum? I admit, that prospect is scary. The guy is a fundy freakshow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_Amendment
Nick| 2.16.12 @ 12:19PM
Hobbes,
The only fundies are those who still cling to the failed theory of Darwinian evolution, a.k.a. secular humanist atheist materialists.
You sound no different than Al Fraken or Keith Olbermann-child.
spike59| 2.16.12 @ 6:20AM
RonPaul is an utter failure on foreign affairs and national security; he calls traitors 'heroes' and could care less if our adversaries get their hands on nukes
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 6:54AM
You Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Scum Wouldn't Know Real Conservatism If It Jumped Up And Bit Ya In Your RINO-CINO Butts.
Read George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, The Old Right And Get Back To Us.
" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"
William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Oldefarte| 2.16.12 @ 10:04AM
The only 'bastard scum' that most of us are aware of is the copy&paste; moron that has to resort to others' thoughts/ideas and that asininely insults everyone with trailer-trash gutterisms. Why don't you go to Catholic school and have a nun clean out your ignorant mouth with soap and teach you the art and intelligence of civilized and personal arguments?
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:13PM
Manning is no hero. That Paul thinks he is a hero is enough to render Paul utterly unelectable. he's good on fiscal and domestic issues, other than immigration, but on foreign policy and identifying the enemy he's a hopeless case.
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 9:10PM
Interesting, That You Didn't Mention The RINO-CINO Mittens Romney's Response About Those Who Report War Crimes
Mitt Romney Responds to Question about Bradley Manning / War Crimes And Those Who Report War Crimes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtmGted3D0
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Hobbes| 2.16.12 @ 9:58AM
Our adversaries already have nukes: Pakistan is our worst enemy. Nukes. North Korea. Nukes. China. Nukes. Russia. Nukes. There are nukes in Turkey and they have a fundamentalist Islamic whacko president.
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:14PM
To my knowledge, there are no nukes in Turkey. Any that we might have had there have been withdrawn long ago. Where have you heard different?
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 6:50AM
We're The Pennsylvania Gun & Bible Clutchin' Conservatives, Who Helped Throw Little Ricky's Ass Out Of The Senate, After He Stepped In The Last Weeks And Propped Up The RINO-CINO Poster Boy,Arlen Specter Against Our Republican Primary Guy, Pat Toomey.
Now, Little Ricky And Specter Have Been Chased Away And Our Tea Party Senator, Pat Toomey Is In.
If Little Ricky Comes Back To Pennsylvania,We'll Throw His Big Government Israel Firster Chickenhawk Ass Out Again.
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Dai Alanye | 2.16.12 @ 11:59AM
Show us those medals again, Clint. Surely you didn't pitch them all over the White House fence. Prove you're not a chickenhawk like draftee RonPaul.
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 9:01PM
Tell Ua About Chickenhawk Santorum's Medals, Israel Firster Smear Bund Bibi Boy, Dai Job.
Dr. Ron Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968).
" Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force in the 1960s, spending time on the ground in countries like Ethiopia, Iran, Pakistan, South Korea, and Turkey. He also sits on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs."
The Tea Party Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Jack in Wi.| 2.15.12 @ 11:14PM
The only conservative is Ron Paul. He actually has a program to return the country to limited Constitutional government. Santorum is nothing but a big governmen,t warmongering Republican. The wars that he loves have bankrupted the country and destroyed our Constitutional liberties.
As for abortion only Ron Paul would get rid of Roe vs Wade by using the Constitutional power of the Congress to restrict the juridiction of the Federal courts in the matter. I wish Santorum would at least get on board for that idea. I don't expect it. He loves war and big government to much, to do that.
mjs_pa| 2.15.12 @ 10:01PM
Thanks Quin for exposing a little sunshine on yet another MSM/romney myth about Rick Santorum!
BTW, wRONg Paul is not a conservative.
aware| 2.16.12 @ 6:18AM
Not a Santorum "conservative" at least.
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:15PM
I will say that Paul does have the core of conservatism on the fiscal front. It would be nice if he had the foreign policy and enemy identification skills we needed, but alas....
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 9:17PM
Read George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, The Old Right.
" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"
William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”
American Warriors Aren't To Be Used As Cannon Fodder and American Treasure Isn't To Be Pissed Away Policing The Middle East For The Israel Firsters' Agenda.
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Brendan| 2.15.12 @ 10:32PM
"Freddie Mac Tried to Kill Republican Regulatory Bill in 2005"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,440681,00.html
Not tried, did. But Santorum was on the side of the angels on this one....
Nate| 2.15.12 @ 10:58PM
Arlen Spector was a fiscal conservative too... oh wait that is the type of guys Santorum endorsed over real conservatives. Who was one of the few conservatives standing up for Reagan in 1976 in the GOP convention? Oh yeah Reagan also campaigned for the same man and mentioned him in his biography numerous times. Ron Paul was that man and the only real conservative in this primary.
BTW, read it and weep Santorum fans, Santorum voted for big government spending that wasn't paid for numerous times. Last time I checked that isn't being fiscally conservative.
Sean| 2.15.12 @ 11:18PM
Yep Ron Paul was with Reagan in 76'. All these so hacks at Red State, National Review and Am .Spectator are the same type of people that were against Reagan back then
Dorothy K Carter| 2.15.12 @ 11:15PM
NTU’s scoring is not as strict as Tea Party standards. Tea party conservatives want balanced budgets like Romney did 4 yrs in MA. Santorum voted for the infamous bridge to nowhere! Hello! Santorum voted pro union not exactly a conservative stance now days! We Love Gov Christie & Gov Scott Walker for being hard on unions NOT for running as blue collar candidate pandering to unions. Santorum voted for Bush 43's Rx Part D which wasn't paid for.....
Whoever wrote this has not done their homework
RJ| 2.15.12 @ 11:38PM
It is laughable for Romney and his surrogates to claim that Santorum is a fiscally liberal Republican. He should have more respect for the intelligence of the voters. Coming from him, that argument will not sell.
While I am disappointed in some of Santorum's past record, I still find it much more acceptable than Romney's. As someone who contributed to Pat Toomey's 2004 primary race, I was not happy when Santorum supported Specter, but Rick has adequately explained his reasoning and the issue is in the past. I also take comfort in hearing Santorum campaign today as a fiscal conservative and believe that if elected, he will govern as one.
Ward Bond| 2.16.12 @ 1:51AM
RJ, we went to see Santorum tonight in Fargo,ND. Pretty impressive. Rick seems like a hard nosed conservative,what you see is what you get. He seems to be comfortable in his own skin. I sure don't think he'll be intimidated by obama in any debate or in the general election. I've liked Santorum from the start and like him better the more I see of him. I just don't think that our nominee running to the left or center is going to entice all of these moderates. Obama doesn't seem too concerned about moderates. He's running to his base leftists as fast as he can. Now he's decided to cut our nukes 80%. Dangerous man that obama. I'd say he was stupid but that's the worst of it , I don't think he is.
RJ| 2.16.12 @ 12:07PM
Thanks for the information, Ward. I agree that running to the left won't help the GOP. I see it as authenticating the left's position and undercutting the argument against them. Obama, Reid and Pelosi et.al. are extremists and it needs to be pointed out with a clear contrast: freedom and opportunity versus centralized command and control.
Garfield| 2.16.12 @ 1:27AM
Romney's claim that he is more conservative than either Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum is laughable, seriously didn't Romney once claim he was more liberal than Ted Kennedy?
aware| 2.16.12 @ 5:37AM
You're using the Weakly Standard as "proof'? Who the hell even reads the rag but neocons and insiders wanting a little echo chamber. If I want to see what's happening with conservatives that's the last place to go.
A guy who votes for every single Bush the Lesser expansion of the Leviathan can be called a lot of things, but "fiscal conservative" ain't one of them.
Ryan| 2.16.12 @ 8:19AM
Is the content wrong?
Hobbes| 2.16.12 @ 10:01AM
Let's see. Weekly Standard was the magazine that said we just had to attack Iraq because they had WMDs. Yeah, I'd say the content has been wrong from the start.
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:19PM
Actually, Iraq did have WMDs. They also had a nuke program that was shipped to Syria, which was destroyed by the Israelis back in 2007.
There are WMDs other than chemical agents and chem agents have always been considered WMDs too.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.16.12 @ 6:09AM
The article is totally misleading.
It states clearly that Santorum got the A during Bush's first term.
It was during Bush's second term that Santorum became part of the landscape.
But it's all moot. He can't win and it's all a pipe dream.
Besides, how can he argue against Romneycare since the scope and size of Medicare Part D dwarfs Romneycare?
Dai Alanye | 2.16.12 @ 12:13PM
I'm getting tired of posting this. I want all you wild Mittsters and Newtsters and Paulites to memorize it so I don't have to bother again.
Santorum's ratings during sixteen years in Congress:-
American Conservative Union -- 88%
National Right to Life Committee -- 100%
Americans for Tax Reform -- 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee -- 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- 88%
League of Private Property Voters -- 94%
NRA-PVF (Political Victory Fund) -- A+
National Taxpayers Union — 3.66/4.0
AFL-CIO -- 13%
Not perfect but far from shabby, and better than those lackeys of Romney, Talent and Pawlenty.
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:22PM
And you need to see this my friend. The ratings you've posted are truly confusing. See the link for a much honest and accurate assessment of the man.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/w.....137&id=902
Drek| 2.16.12 @ 6:25AM
Well Quin,
now perhaps you can move on and present a defense for a candidate for the GOP nomination wandering around the fruited plain in an idiotic sweater vest. Can't think of anything so calculated to lure in the younger voter than a grown man whose appearance is totally out of it.
Of course Santorum voters will cry foul, and decry so obvious an irrelevant observation.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.16.12 @ 7:31AM
I repeat
ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nancy in NC| 2.16.12 @ 7:51AM
Amen to that!
Quartermaster| 2.16.12 @ 7:22PM
Yes.
WG| 2.16.12 @ 9:47AM
National Taxpayer Union scores are the gold standard in measuring govt. spending votes by Congress. See ratings for presidential candidates here: http://www.ntu.org/governmentb.....ntial.html
For those arguing that Mitt's spending record is superior==well Romneycare uses federal dollars to bolster its program which is still spending. Furthermore, Mass. law requires a balanced budget.
Please argue about other things and quit spewing talking points.
Oldefarte| 2.16.12 @ 9:51AM
NO HE AIN'T!!!!! :
[1] '....Targeted Spending...Lawmakers weren’t required to make public their requests for targeted spending projects, called earmarks, until after Santorum lost in 2006.
Still, Perry’s ad claim that Santorum obtained more than $1 billion in earmarks during his time in office is likely legitimate, according to Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, which tracks government waste.
For instance, Pennsylvania in 2005 received $483 million in earmarks for 872 projects, including $5.4 million for an igloo upgrade for an Army Depot and $5 million for a new visitor center at Gettysburg....Terry Madonna, a political scientist at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, said Santorum had worked closely with Specter on earmarks and wasn’t known to condemn the practice. “It was not a huge issue during his tenure,” he said....‘Proud of the Money’..Santorum defended himself on Dec. 29 on Fox News: “I’m proud of the money that I did set aside for things that were priorities in my state instead of having bureaucrats do that.”
The online advertisement released by Perry opens with images of pigs -- a play on so-called pork-barrel spending --and a clip of a Feb. 26, 2009, Santorum appearance on Fox News in which he says he is “very proud of all the earmarks” he inserted into legislation.Santorum also wasn’t as reflexively anti-union as some Republicans, perhaps because he waged his first House campaign in 1990 in a Democratic-leaning, working-class congressional district in the Pittsburgh area.In 1993, Santorum was one of 17 House Republicans who sided with most Democrats in backing a Clinton administration bill to protect striking employees from being permanently replaced by their employees.Santorum’s Senate service shows a clear track record of supporting the Davis-Bacon Act, the federal law that requires government contractors to pay workers the local prevailing wage and a perennial target for elimination by the business community and anti-union Tea Party activists.
Davis-Bacon...In 1996, Santorum voted in effect for an amendment by former Massachusetts Democratic Senator Edward M. Kennedy that said the 1931 law shouldn’t be repealed.In 1999, the Senate accepted a Santorum amendment that said it should consider “reform” of Davis-Bacon rather than repeal. Later that year, Santorum was one of 15 Senate Republicans who sided with Democrats in rejecting an amendment that would have limited the application of Davis-Bacon in federal disaster areas.He has a mixed record on federal minimum-wage laws, casting votes for increases and at other times against them. A pro- Santorum publication put out by the Pennsylvania Republican Party in 2006 noted “50 Things You May Not Know About Rick Santorum.” Ranked at No. 23: Santorum “wrote legislation that would increase the national minimum wage.”
Protecting Steel...Although a supporter of most free-trade agreements, Santorum adopted a protectionist profile when it came to his home state’s steel industry.In 2002, he supported President George W. Bush’s decision to impose tariffs on imported steel. In 1999, he was one of 42 senators who voted in effect for a bill he co-wrote that would have restricted imports of foreign steel.
Even with those pro-labor stances, Santorum wasn’t a consistent ally with the AFL-CIO; he had a 13 percent lifetime rating from the labor organization in 2006, his last year in office.
Jon Delano, a political analyst from Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, said that low rating may give Santorum a shield against some attacks. Still, Delano said, the former senator would remain vulnerable to accusations that he’s “part of the Washington establishment.”
Santorum’s 2004 endorsement of Specter over a more conservative Republican primary opponent has also prompted opponents to question his credentials. Specter, a 30-year Senate veteran who served alongside Santorum in the chamber, lost his seat in the 2010 Democratic primary after he switched parties.Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, the son of the presidential candidate Ron Paul, referenced the endorsement Jan. 1 on CBS’s Face the Nation, saying Santorum is “a big-government type of moderate” and among the “fair-weather conservatives” in the Republican field....'
[2] '....ArtLafer:..States..Leading..Pro...Growth..Rebellion ..Tuesday, February 14, 2012 08:00 AM..By: Julie Crawshaw..Economist and Ronald Reagan adviser Arthur Laffer says that states are sending Washington a message: Aligning yourself too closely to unions is a losing strategy.“States are now starting to change the playing field,” Laffer writes in The Wall Street Journal. “The latest shock to the Democratic agenda is Indiana's adoption of a right-to-work law that bans contracts that require private-sector employees to pay union dues.”
That's progress, and part of a growing trend at the state level, says Laffer. Indiana is now the 23rd state to adopt a right-to-work law. “The benefits to states having right-to-work legislation are overwhelming,” Laffer says.
Economies in states with right-to-work laws grow significantly faster than those in forced-union states, have higher employment growth, attract more residents, and have more rapid growth in state and local tax revenues than forced-union states.Laffer observes that it wasn’t easy for Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels to get the bill passed. Not only did every Democrat in Indiana's House and Senate vote against the bill, but five Republicans in the House and nine in the Senate also voted against it, testament to the influence of union power in Washington and state capitals across America.Most high-school civics students, Laffer notes, would agree that no American worker should either be prohibited from joining a union or required to join one as a condition of employment. “And no union member—or anyone else for that matter—should be required to contribute to political causes they oppose,” he says. “Yet in 27 states, if more than 50 percent of workers agree to create a union shop, workers are still required to join the union and pay dues even if those dues are used for political causes of which they disapprove.”Democrats, for better or worse, have staked their future on tight partnership with the unions, Laffer points out. “Unfortunately for them, not only is union membership a fraction of what it once was, but half of all union members today are public-sector employees—teachers, nurses, police officers, firemen, prison guards,” he says.
“In 1983, when President Reagan fired the air-traffic controllers for walking out on their jobs, two-thirds of all union members were in the private sector.”According to a report from the U.S. Bureau of Labor, 2011 figures show that public-sector workers had a union membership rate more than five times higher than that of private-sector work..........'
R. Dittmar| 2.16.12 @ 11:34AM
OK, now I'm completely confused. Why are we talking up Rick Santorum? The prophetic, prescient, completely impartial Jennifer Rubin has deemed him unelectable, extreme and schoolmarmish:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/....._blog.html
Shouldn't we be elevating her great wisdom and dismissing Santorum out of hand given how totally even-handed and "not at all in the tank for Romney" she is?
Wayne| 2.16.12 @ 12:56PM
If Santorum is so "liberal" aka a Rino. Why was he labeled "the junk yard dog of the Republicans" by Democrats. During his terms of office he was often one of the most outspoken conservatives in the Senate. It is one of the reasons he lost his Senate bid to Robert Casey carrier of the sacred name
William R| 2.16.12 @ 1:40PM
You're a blithering idiot Hillyer. A fugging laughing stock. Can't decide who's worse. Yor or Lord.
What a Big Government Conservative Looks Like
http://www.redstate.com/erick/.....ooks-like/
linda| 2.16.12 @ 2:50PM
Ron Paul is a Republican Libertarian. As far as I can see he has never been anything but a Libertarian. Why would anyone argue that he is a conservative? If he was a conservative he would be getting more traction within the party but as it sits he is a fringe LIBERTARIAN. I give him credit for his steadfastness but let's not kid ourselves. That school of thought is a small fraction of the party and Libertarianism taken in total is not all that Conservative.
William R| 2.16.12 @ 3:11PM
The heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism---Ronald Reagan.
You're clueless Linda
aware| 2.16.12 @ 3:33PM
Totally.
linda| 2.16.12 @ 5:55PM
William, that was kind of Reagan to say to a group of libertarian during an election. Obviously Paul was having none of it so he trashed Reagan and ran for the presidency as a LIBERTARIAN. I'm sure Reagan's " peace through strength" was a bothersome view too.
Paul is a better fit with the left and he knows it too.
William R| 2.17.12 @ 2:04AM
You're still clueless Linda. It was Ronald Reagan in 1975 during an interview with Reason magazine.
Reagan's Wisdom on the Middle East. Leave
http://orangepunch.ocregister......leave/619/
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 9:23PM
Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Oldefarte| 2.17.12 @ 10:00AM
Strange that Reagan served for two terms as president and didn't hire Paul within his administration. Wonder Why? Also I'm reading REAGAN THE MAN, THE PRESIDENT and not once is Paul mentioned in same?????????
Oldefarte| 2.17.12 @ 2:45PM
Santorum just distinguished himself from Romney by saying Romney was for the TARP bailout of banks but not for the auto companies' bailout; whereas he/Santorum is not for bailing out any companies, including the banks. The stupidity of this is that the moron obviously does not realize/comprehend that the banks' bailouts were critically necessary for the survival of this country. If the banks had not bee bailed out, ever American having a checking account would have possibly seen same disappear [and then the government would have still had to bail out same via the FDIC etc]. Granted the car companies bailout was a gift to the labor union supporters of Obama/Democrats and unnecessary, but not the banks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!