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The Spectacle Blog
Bill Kristol writes today that Rick Santorum likely has a better chance of beating Mitt Romney than Newt Gingrich does. New polls support that assumption:
What might be most interesting in both states is what happens in a head to head between Romney and either Gingrich or Santorum:
-In Missouri Santorum leads Romney 50-37 and in Ohio Santorum leads 45-38.
-In Missouri Gingrich leads Romney 43-42 and in Ohio Gingrich leads 42-39.
Two takeaways from those numbers: if this ever came down to Romney, Paul, and just one out of Gingrich and Santorum, Romney would be in a lot of trouble. And he’d be in more trouble if the single conservative alternative ended up being Santorum.
Santorum is a stronger long term threat to Romney than Gingrich because he has less baggage and is simply much better liked.
The same holds true in a general election. The way to look at a candidate’s potential is to look at his electoral upside and compare it to his downside. There’s not much that Obama can really use to destroy Santorum. There is plenty to use against Gingrich. There is plenty of room for somebody like Santorum to grow in popularity, because most voters still are getting to know him. There is little room for Gingrich to grow because he is so well known, and because for some 17 years he consistently has had some of the highest net-unfavorable ratings of any figure in American public life. Those are hard-and-fast impressions that he would have a hard time overcoming.
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George S| 2.1.12 @ 12:44PM
Santorum's leads in those states will start to evaporate soon as the first campaign ads broadcast -- and Santorum cannot reply in kind because he can't afford it. It's a shame, but money talks.
Pete| 2.3.12 @ 8:42AM
Quin ignores the Romney smear machine. Now that it pretty much has slimed Newt, its ready for Santorum.
teflon93| 2.1.12 @ 12:44PM
Thank you, Quin---more please!
The Romney-Gingrich mudwrestling is depressing and wearying---Santorum's a good man and a solid conservative and I wish more conservative writers would make the case FOR him rather than merely anti-Romney and anti-Gingrich. Unlike with the former, there is a strong positive case to be made for Santorum.
John Drake| 2.1.12 @ 1:36PM
I do believe that Santorum is a good and well-intentioned man, but I do not believe that he is a solid conservative. His big federal government views are liberal with "socially conservative" content. I will by no means vote for George Bush redux.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 3:07PM
When you say, "his big federal government views", are you saying that as a Paul-bot by any chance?
Because as we all know here, Paul-bots think everybody's BIG FED GOV. Except them, of course.
Gadfly| 2.1.12 @ 4:10PM
Don't know about Mr. Drake, but I have some concerns about Santorum and big government and I'm not a Paulbot.
"This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I don’t think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can’t go it alone. That there is no such society that I am aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture."
- Santorum to NPR
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org.....overnment/
Dai Alanye | 2.2.12 @ 12:29PM
Santorum's ratings during his sixteen years in Congress:
American Conservative Union -- 88%
National Right to Life Committee -- 100%
Americans for Tax Reform -- 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee -- 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- 88%
League of Private Property Voters -- 94%
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:14PM
He's about as solid a conservative as one is apt to find on the Hill.
But he isn't remotely electable, because the only issues that get him worked up really are abortion and same sex marriage.
Moreover, he gives off this vibe of a guy who thinks he's doing the Lord's work. Which is why by the way he's still in the race, when all other ultimately fraudulent contenders have accepted political reality. He can't win. He won't get tapped for the ticket, ------- but because he deludes himself he's on a mission of the Lord, he goes on, fracturing the opposition to Romney.
A disaster.
Marco2| 2.1.12 @ 5:30PM
On the Hill? Recall that he was booted off it by an almost idiot by a record-breaking 18 points. As far as running as fast as you can from someone who thinks he's on a mission from God, amen brother.
teflon93| 2.1.12 @ 6:10PM
And Romney lost to Ted Kennedy in the extremely Republican year of 1994---by 17 points.
Since Romney thinks he's God's choice to be President, it's hard to see how he compares favorably to Santorum, who at least has a conservative voting record with a lifetime ACU of 88.
Jack in Wi.| 2.1.12 @ 12:47PM
The only guy who has a chance to beat Romney and win the general election has always been Ron Paul. He is on the balot in all 50 states and has a huge number of activists that are for him. What's more he has the issues on his side. 70% of the people want out of these wars and no attack on Iran.They want an end to foreign aid, and endless foreign entanglements. They don't want any more bailouts of the rich. They want the Federal government slashed. Paul is the only one who comes close to Romney in had to head matchups against Obama. He is also the only one who has a plan to get us out of this mess. Santorum will never be the nominee and would lose to Obma in a huge landslide, just like he did in his last election in Pennsylvania. Whether Ron Paul is the nominee or not he has won. No pro war pro bankster Republican is electable anymore. If Romney is the nominee I expect he will start to sound like Mohandes Ghandi, just after he gets the nomination. Kristol knows it and doesn't like it. It is time to kick Kristol and his Trotskyite ilk out of the party. If Romney did that he would have a good start on getting the libertarian and real conservative base to come out and vote for him.
Gadfly| 2.1.12 @ 4:34PM
Just keep telling yourself that. He's the most electable, despite the fact that he's never won a primary state. If you hold your breath and make a wish, maybe it'll happen.
Occam's Tool| 2.1.12 @ 5:35PM
Jack also STILL believes the Packers will win the Superbowl this year. He is as ignorant as he is illiterate; a morally crapulent piece of pus.
Clint| 2.1.12 @ 7:08PM
Tool Job's Minnesota Victims.
Minnesota Vikings Finish 3-13.
" Their combined nine wins in 2010 and 2011 are the lowest two-season total in franchise history since 1966 and 1967. Since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970, the Vikings have only finished last within their division three times, with two of them occurring the last two seasons."
Occam's Tool| 2.3.12 @ 12:27AM
Hey---I'm happy to see them leave. I don't think my State tax money should go to help an asshole billionare build a stadium for HIS profit.
By the way, my wife went to 'Bama and I went to TCU. How did Penn State do this year, Clint?
Occam's Tool| 2.3.12 @ 12:36AM
Oh, yeah, 9-5. That's OK. They did well academically.
Oldefarte| 2.2.12 @ 11:22AM
SHAZAM Jack! Does this '....They don't want any more bailouts of the rich....' possibly and non-semi-intelligently falsehood about the 'rich' include THE GD LABOR UNIONS OF GM/CRYSLER AND THE STATE GOVERNMENTS THAT WERE BAILED OUT BY YA BOY BARRY/DEMOCRATS WITH THEIR UN-STIMULUS $500BILLION OF TAXPAYERS' MONEY? Does same contemplate the same 'bailout' money that to date HAS NOT BEEN RE-PAID BY THE GD LABOR UNIONS/GM/CRYSLER [whereas the 'rich' 'MILLIONAIRES & BILLIONAIRES' bankers and their banks that received also bailout [non-stimulus] money from ya boy Barry HAVE TOTALLY/COMPLETELY PAID BACK THEIR BAILOUT MONEYS THAT WERE LOANED TO THEM IN FULL CORRESPONDINGLY? Is what you ignorantly refer to as '....No pro war pro bankster Republican is electable anymore....' instead the PRO LABOR UNIONS OF THE WORTHLESS AUTO MANUFACTURERS AND STATE GOVERNMENTS [that are harrassingly protesting your governor Scott Walker]? Maybe you and your Justice Dept buddy Mr Clint-and-Propagandize could possibly SPLAIN IT TO US ALL [doubtful, since same would require intelligence AND and avoidance of the C&P key functions]??????
Dai Alanye | 2.2.12 @ 12:29PM
Santorum's ratings during his sixteen years in Congress:
American Conservative Union -- 88%
National Right to Life Committee -- 100%
Americans for Tax Reform -- 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee -- 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- 88%
League of Private Property Voters -- 94%
RonPaul's record during a century in Congress:
Bills passed -- one
Earmarks requested -- beyond count
kf451| 2.1.12 @ 12:59PM
People just aren't into Santorum. He's too extreme on social conservative, he's not a fiscal conservative, and he has a grating personality. He hasn't been hit my Romney's nasty ad barrage yet because he's been too insignificant, but there's no way he'll be able to withstand it, if it comes to that.
Tom| 2.1.12 @ 1:39PM
People like you who whine about Santorum being "extreme" on social issues have two major complaints:
1. Santorum doesn't believe that unborn babies should be murdered; and,
2. Santorum doesn't believe that fags should be married and have their disgusting, perverted "orientation" recognized as being a normal state of existance.
If that is "extremism:, then may the Lord God grant that I be an "extremist" until my dying breath.
kf451| 2.2.12 @ 1:17PM
I am strongly pro-life, anti-gay marriage, and a practicing Catholic, like Santorum. I like his message of the importance of a strong family. But he loses me by miles when he thinks that government should have something to say about what people do in the privacy of their own homes, because that's just creepy. I believe in personal liberty, although I'm not a libertarian. Plus he agreed with W. Bush on all his big government programs. No thanks.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 3:04PM
kf451: "He's too extreme on social conservative, he's not a fiscal conservative, and he has a grating personality.."
Why? Because he doesn't have the attitude like most of this screwed up World?
The one that says, "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die!" Lk. 12:19 & 20.
Because he isn't a fool?
I'm leaning more and more towards placing my vote for him in the primary.. BECAUSE I admire his strong stance on his conservative values.
Gadfly| 2.1.12 @ 4:25PM
You've got the cite wrong on that Bible quote. You want 1 Corinthians 15:32. Luke 12:19-20 only has the first part and is about a rich man who saves for himself but doesn't give to God. His savings go for naught when he dies the next day. It's kind of the opposite attitude to the "live for the moment." Corinthians is where Paul uses the phrase like you mean it: to say that if there's no resurrection, we might as well just live for the moment.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 8:03PM
Same attitude, though, but ok. The Corinthians verse applies just as well if not better.
By the way, are you the same Gadfly that used to post over at Lucianne's Alley back in 2000??
Gadfly| 2.1.12 @ 9:23PM
Nope
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:18PM
Exactly.
People aren't in to him.
But that doesn't matter for Rick, because him and his wife pray a good deal about it, and they're assured that the Lord wants him to continue his quest, and if that means the GOP being saddled with a pro-abortion, pro-same sex marriage candidate, and the rest of America being edged that much more to the Left thereby, ------------- that doesn't even factor into his calculations.
What all of America is getting a good look at though is that Santorum is something of a head case, a hammerhead, who will continue to butt his head up against it so long as he thinks he's doing the Lord's work.
He's become a missile gone ballistic, and somebody needs to hit the abort button big time on his candidacy, before he seals the deal for Romney.
Santorum is ever so close to making sure Romney runs away with it.
What a disaster.
Dai Alanye | 2.2.12 @ 12:34PM
Nor has Santrorum come out for a moon base or a Court of Star Chamber for judges. What a wild and crazy guy!
Santorum's ratings during sixteen years in Congress:
American Conservative Union -- 88%
National Right to Life Committee -- 100%
Americans for Tax Reform -- 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee -- 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- 88%
League of Private Property Voters -- 94%
kf451| 2.2.12 @ 1:21PM
Where does his backing Medicare part D without a funding mechanism, NCLB, voting against national right-to-work, supporting SPecter who was the 50th vote for Obamacare, and losing as an incumbent by 18 points figure in your numbers?
In other words, your numbers are pretty useless.
Bill| 2.1.12 @ 1:00PM
Santorum needs:
1. Money
2. Organization
3. Media
4. 'Fiery" debate performance
Con Chef (NB) | 2.1.12 @ 1:29PM
What would you call his most recent debate performance? "Lame?" C'mon, man. THAT was the Santorum I knew about BEFORE I even moved up here from Memphis.
Bill| 2.1.12 @ 2:41PM
Santorum has no plan on taxes, federal spending, and balancing the budget. He needs to explain his stances on those issues in the debate.
Dai Alanye | 2.2.12 @ 12:48PM
Someone hasn't been listening. Santorum has spoken repeatedly on each of these policies, in debates and elsewhere.
Personal income taxes -- 28% top rate
Corporate -- 15%
Corporate in manufacturing -- 0%
Repatriated profits -- 5%
Budget -- five-trillion reduction in five years, including necessary reductions to entitlements
kf451| 2.2.12 @ 1:23PM
His plan to have 0 % tax on manufacturing while giving no relief to local service businesses is unfair and stupid. He thinks neighborhood groceries, barbers, or drug stores can't disappear? They're already disappearing! And they also need tax relief.
James| 2.2.12 @ 9:38PM
0% on manufacturing because THOSE are the jobs that have been exported -DUH... Sams hardware store is not going to move to china... and they even get a massive tax decrease!
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:22PM
He can't move beyond who he is.
And that is a guy who prays with his wife, his kids, and is now convinced that the Lord wants him to continue on, regardless of political prudence, cost, reality and consequence.
He's on a mission from God, and he isn't going to stop.
He appeals to a Michelle Malkin type in her most smugly moralizing frame of mind.
It's all about abortion really with him. THAT'S what gets him worked up. It's no surprise that's what his book on the family was all about.
Santorum would have done better as a priest, ---------- he'd have made Archbishop someplace by now. Then he could give all the sermons on the family he ever wanted.
Siegfried X| 2.1.12 @ 2:00PM
When Santorum won Iowa it proved that he could win the nomination. Unfortunately he didn't get the support. It's a sad comment on the Republican Party, that he (and Michelle Bachmann) were rejected so strongly.
Gadfly| 2.1.12 @ 4:28PM
I don't know that Iowa is a good microcosm for the country. Santorum's appeal is highest among social conservatives, and this election is going to be decided on fiscal/federal issues.
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:25PM
Iowa can't be replicated.
It was a perfect storm for him, and he capitalized on it by visiting every single county. How can he do that for Super Tuesday, or even Florida for that matter?
Sooner or later his name had to reach a certain NATIONAL level. And that hasn't happened.
J.C. Sampsell| 2.2.12 @ 10:43PM
"Missouri is a microcosm of the entire U.S." I've heard it from several political commentators. And Santorum beats Romney there and in Ohio in the latest polls. Time to start facing the cold hard facts of winning this General Election in the states that are in play for Republicans. Romney would give Obama a run for the money in the Northeast, nowhere else. We need someone who will be strong in OH, PA, MO while still carrying the "Bible belt." Romney will get his clock cleaned in the South.
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 2:01PM
'....There's not much that Obama can really use to destroy Santorum....' That's true, since Santorum has done much of anything in his long political career [other than lose his last Pennsylvania senatorial race]. This prophesy deserves a FOUR PINOCHIO award perhaps!!!!!
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 2:02PM
Correction/opps: HASN'T not HAS!!!!
Bill| 2.1.12 @ 2:50PM
As long as Santorum wins the GOP nod and then carries PA.
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:27PM
But he's floundering in Pennsylvania polling. I have to admit to being somewhat stunned at that, for I thought that Santorum would force the Dems to defend the Keystone state.
But Santorum hasn't helped himself at home.
Bill| 2.1.12 @ 7:18PM
Because he lost his senate bid in 2006. He was never fit for being a President, rather he should have gone for a re-match with Bob Casey, as George Aleen of VA are already vying for his old senate job.
James| 2.2.12 @ 9:42PM
Are you that daft or just dishonest? Republicans screwed it up so bad in Washington that 2006 was a bloodbath for all Republicans - in a swing state like PA he would have lost regardless.
WL| 2.1.12 @ 2:57PM
Give it a rest will you Hillyer...
Ricky had about 30 people in what looked like a 150 square foot room for his "victory" speech last night for a reason...
I promise you I will vote for him over Romney if he gets to my state and Santorum actually looks like he is within 30 points of Romney...
But that ain't happening.
You know that anyway...that's why you are hawking him....
Then you will complain about Romney when he wins...but at TWO (not one, but TWO) critical junctures, you joined the Trash Newt party...
So save it.
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:32PM
Santorum and Hillyer mirror image one another.
Santorum believes himself on a mission from God, and won't desist.
Hillyer too believes himself inspired on his jihad against the only viable conservative candidate against Romney, ----- which would be Gingrich.
Sarah Palin aptly described Hillyer, and people like Michelle Malkin too, when she described them as "naively idealistic" for wasting their efforts and support on Santorum, which only propels Romney further down the path towards the nomination.
I'm privately convinced that Hillyer has already made his peace with Romney's candidacy, but by banging the drum for Santorum, he is able thereby to salve some moral perturbation that's inexorable for any Roman Catholic supporting Romney.
Forget about it Quin!
Your support of Santorum isn't enough of a fig leaf to cover your nakedness and the inner shame of having made your private peace with Romney.
I flat out refuse to accept Romney, for the simple reason I have no idea who he is, what he believes, and the guy won't level with me.
Marco2| 2.1.12 @ 5:42PM
But how can a thinking person not trash Newt? I suppose Gingrich was going to win the presidency with 28% of the women's vote? A national electoral disaster from the top of the ticket down to animal control officer was averted yesterday. Thank you Florida and Governor Romney.
James| 2.2.12 @ 9:45PM
Agreed, Newt is a serial philanderer and a self-described "realpolitik wilsonian" and a Teddy Roosevelt / Lafollotte progressive".
Conservative Bob| 2.1.12 @ 3:11PM
Santorum might do well against Romney until the GOP Elite Smear machine closes ranks around their guy Mitt. Then you will see a flurry trash dumped on him just like every other candidate that has threatened their chosen.
Right in there swinging with the rest will be Hillyer with is electability rants as we saw in his attacks of Gingrich.
We have an up hill battle to get anyone nominated other than the chosen of the party establishment.
I am tired as a conservative of being treat by the GOP like the Democrats have treated blacks. They are interested in my vote on election day and any money they can get me to contibute, other than that shut up and get to the back of the bus.
Our selection process is flawed/rigged. I hope one time before I die to actually have a choice in the matter.
Given what we have seen from the GOP thus far, I think that conservatives should look to organize themselves into a new party. Time to leave the rent seekers and RINO liberal light baggage behind.
A party founded on clearly articulated conservative principles will take the majority of rank and file out of the GOP and attract a large number of independents. The ranks of independents have grown from our side not because we are too conservative but because our leadership like the democrats serve themself and say one thing while doing the opposite.
PattyMor| 2.1.12 @ 3:15PM
Santorum has not been hit with the blizzard of attacks that Gingrich has. RedState had a looong list of big government bills that Santorum voted yea on. In the end, he wouldn't do any better than Gingrich. So the "baggage" issue is only one of degree and advertising. Isn't Romneycare the biggest millstone of all next to Obamacare?
Drek| 2.1.12 @ 5:35PM
Santorum hasn't been plastered yet for there's no sense in the establishment or Romney going after a guy who has done them so much good by staying in the race well beyond any rational and reasonable point.
Santorum is protecting Romney right now. It's like he's a massive bomb shelter that covers Romney, and prevents the rank and file concentrating all their power against Romney.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 3:21PM
Bob,
Maybe if Sarah Palin led that charge it could be a possibility. But then, there are a lot of people who even say they're conservative and still don't like her. And how much more conservative can you get than Sarah??
I don't know.. I still say we stay with the Republican party but get stronger and take it over from within.
It just seems to me that all of us little peons (ok I'll speak for myself here), need to get a LOT more involved in the fight on a local basis for one thing. Otherwise, how will it make a difference if the minds of others aren't changed??
You'd have a third party but with the same minds, just even more divided?
If the undecided saw conservatives working to make a difference, what would it matter WHERE?
Just my thoughts.
Conservative Bob| 2.1.12 @ 4:11PM
Margie,
I have been a loyal Republican since Nixon. I am tired of being taken for granted. I am doubtful that we will ever take the leadership from the RINO leadership.
Every election it is the same story our views are given lip service but the more 'intelligent' more experienced hands "guide us" to the selection that really is in our interest. SO we get to watch a fool like McCain or Dole or whoever else is next in line.
There would be 3 parties but for a short time. What is left of the GOP would rapidly disappear.
We are the lifeblood of the GOP without the conservative base it is a small group of elitist progressive RINO (or maybe more accurately CINO) only slightly t the right of the Dems.
Conservatives can save this great nation, the majority of her people are conservative and they/we deserve honest representation not lip service.
I will stay the course through this election but going forward I think the time for a new party has arrived.
Taking it from within will be difficult if not impossible. And the RINOs have so damaged the brand one must honestly ask is it worth saving. We are in our current dire straits because of the Establishment GOP not for being too conservative.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 7:33PM
Believe me, I sympathize with you. And I really don't know how much longer I'll be able to argue against what you've said, or suggest.
And I especially agree with your last sentence.
You know, this almost reminds me of something.. if a Christian belongs to a certain assembly, and that assembly no longer adheres to the Scriptures and becomes Liberal, what does the brother or sister do?
Find another assembly that does.
So, it may have to come to this.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 8:00PM
Then again, we're the conservatives~ why should WE leave??
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 3:24PM
I'm leaning towards voting for Santorum in the primary, but if Newt wins the nomination.. or even Romney, I am ALL IN for them to win the Presidency.
And unashamedly so. As always, the Democrat regime being ousted is my goal.
Like Oldefarte always says: "It's the DEMOCRATS, stupids!!" :^)..
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 3:30PM
I guess someone could possibly up and say next/also that the Oakland Raiders will win the Super Bowl in 2013, but I certainly wouldn't bet the mortgage payment money on same !!!!!!!!
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 3:34PM
Is this you trying to say to me in sports terminology that I shouldn't vote for Santorum in the primary?
LOL.
Occam's Tool| 2.1.12 @ 5:41PM
Hey Margie, I'm voting for Rick, but I sure hope Mitt picks West to be his VEEP. I'm a Cubs fan, you see.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 7:21PM
We certainly think alike in these matters, Occam, as to wanting to vote for Rick Santorum.
And onAllen West. Yes! He would be awesome, but do you think he'd pick him??
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 3:40PM
PS: A much surer bet FOR ME would be to be able to stand next to my friend Margie in front of the Heavenly Gates, so that I might be able to sneek inside unnoticed when they provide the red carpet for her [as a devout Christian and honorable human being]. Maybe the Dear Lord would overlook my human frailties, but since He's all knowing, I simply don't think that's possible or probable!!!!!
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 3:43PM
Nah Margie, vote for whomever you please. I'll join you in voting for Santorum if he's the eventual nominee. I just don't think either one of us will be eventually faced with that choice IMHO. The Rickster just don't have enough in him, but we'll see.
Margie| 2.1.12 @ 7:11PM
Oh wow Oldefarte.. I think you may be more the one who I might be standing next to at the Gates of Heaven, begging for His Mercy.
You are truly the more humble soul, my friend.
God loves you so much more than you even realize, and it's ones like you that have your kind of attitude that He looks to.
Your humble attitude brings to my mind a few Scriptures that I'm going to post for you, that you remind me of. Take them to heart~ it's how How He regards you!
"All these things My Hand has made, and so all these things are Mine, says the LORD. But this is the man to whom I will look, he that is humble and contrite in spirit, and trembles at My Word." Is. 66:2.
And then this one, which is wonderful too, it's Jesus speaking:
"..for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came from the Father." Jn. 16:27.
Isn't that amazing? Oldefarte, God says to encourage one another with these Words in the Bible, so I hope I just did that.
His Words are good enough for us, right?
And the best thing about it IMHO?
It has nothing, NOTHING to do with "Religion".. but with His Person. The Lord Himself.
Keep up the good work here.. I'm with ya!!
Oldefarte| 2.2.12 @ 11:29AM
Nah, you're way ahead of most of us due to your extensive knowledge/dedication to the Good Book's words, believe me. We have I think five Bibles around our house on bookshelves. but sadly don't read same as much as we should [but there's always hope]!!!!!
Margie| 2.2.12 @ 4:09PM
Oldefarte,
Just take one day at a time, starting with today and take down one of those Bibles off a shelf, and take just 15 mins. a day to just sit and read. Start with the Gospel of John and just read through the rest of the New Testament like that.
Believe me, you'll love it so much, you'll start making more time each day.
God says that "..the implanted Word is able to save your soul." James 1:21.
Do you want to get strengthened spiritually? Reading His Words does just that very thing.
And, Psalms in the morning is great too, especially for women. If you're married, tell your wife. It's really true!
There's something calming and deeply encouraging about the Psalms of David on the emotions of women.
But MOST importantly Oldefarte, is THIS~
Knowledge doesn't save ANYONE.
Only love and obedience to God and to other Christians does, and I am not a good example.
Oldefarte, you just have no idea hoe God really looks at you.. He doesn't look at your sins, but He looks at your heart. Of course He hates our SIN, but He only wants us to rely on Him for the forgiveness of them.
He loves us so much, and wants to forgive us for our sins so much, that He died for us.
All He wants is our hearts, and when we give Him our hearts, our devotion can't help but to follow.
Forgiveness? He hears the words of our hearts even before we speak them.. even when we are getting ready to pray to Him to ask Him for it.
Speaking of King David, he said this:
"Even before a word is on my tongue, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether." Ps. 139:4.
Oldefarte, have you ever gotten on your knees, admitted to Him you're a sinner like the rest of mankind, and then humbly asked Him for His Holy Spirit to come into your heart?
This is the most important thing you can ever do in your whole life.
This is how you will become His, once and for all unto Eternity.
"If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!" Lk. 11:13.
See, this He will do. I know it for a fact, just like the millions of Christians before me knew it, and the millions know it today.
Jesus loves you already, He's just waiting for you to ask Him for His Spirit.
God bless you.
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 4:31PM
No doubt Rush and I think alike ['...Rush: Republican Contenders Must Focus on..Obama Wednesday, February 1, 2012 01:11 PM..By: Amy Woods..The surest way for the Republican Party to win the White House is to launch an unrelenting assault on President Barack Obama’s liberal policies, Rush Limbaugh said today on his radio show.“Everybody wants to know what do we do now, and what we do now is what we should be doing all along,” Limbaugh said. “The only thing that has ever had a chance . . . has been to make it about Obama — every day, in every which way possible — on issues, on Obama’s record, on the things he can’t defend. That’s what needs to happen — that’s what our chance is.”
He said liberalism is a “mess” and a “gigantic failure,” and the GOP must mount an “ideological campaign aimed at Obama.”
“The focus needs to be on Obama,” he said. “At the end of the day, Obama remains the target.
The White House is the ultimate political objective, and they don’t have a single thing they can defend. This is not 2008. The magic is gone.”...'], in that once again......IT'S THE DEMOCRATS, STUPIDS!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 2.1.12 @ 5:16PM
Our man from Lake Jackson strikes again [sadly]:
'..... Paul: Immigration Not Solved byBarbedWire,Guns Wednesday, February 1, 2012 03:26 PMLAS VEGAS (AP) — Ron Paul says he favors a compassionate immigration policy that doesn't rely on "barbed wire fences and guns on the border."Paul discussed immigration Wednesday at a Hispanic event in Las Vegas. The Texas congressman plans several days of campaigning in Nevada before the state's GOP caucuses on Saturday.Paul said immigrants have been unfairly blamed for the bad economy. He said even during a recession, the U.S. needs immigrant labor.
Paul said he doesn't favor illegal immigration but opposes any effort to round people up and ship them away.He's also against laws that require immigrants to carry proof of legal status. He says he doesn't want to live in a country where people are required to carry identity papers.....'
Occam's Tool| 2.1.12 @ 5:40PM
He obviously has not counted noses as to where the majority of inmates are from in Central New Mexico Correctional facility. Nor in Texas. Paul is, as usual, sublimely ignorant on anything except the Fed.
Clint| 2.1.12 @ 6:54PM
" Ron Paul’s six point plan puts a stop to illegal immigration:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. [This change will obviously NOT be applied retroactively. Current U.S. citizens will not be affected. Instead, babies born to illegals after a future cutoff date will no longer gain automatic U.S. citizenship. They will still have citizenship in their parents' home countries.]
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods."
Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize Economist,
"I strongly support Ron Paul. We very badly need to have more Representatives who understand in a principled way the importance of property rights and religious freedom."
victor| 2.1.12 @ 7:58PM
The real scoop on Ronaldus Minimus:
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/ron-paul.html
His grade on illegal immigration is D-.
'Splain that, PaulParrot.
Oldefarte| 2.2.12 @ 11:42AM
Most of us will agree with Paul's attitudes sited above, BUT his '....Paul said he doesn't favor illegal immigration but opposes any effort to round people up and ship them away.He's also against laws that require immigrants to carry proof of legal status. He says he doesn't want to live in a country where people are required to carry identity papers....' appears contradictory in that how can he disfavor ROUNDING ILLEGALS UP one one hand and then favor ROUNDING UP ILLEGALS WHOSE VISAS HAVE EXPIRED on the other? Aren't Visa paperwork identification papers? Also, the Republican efforts nationally to require demanding ID [driver licenses] proof of identity at voting polls obviously must be disagreed with by Paul and his followers no doubt. ID's are the essential answer to this illegal problem, since if these illegals being processed through border crossings aren't given and required to carry same, what hope is there ever of this country regulating immigration???????
Occam's Tool| 2.3.12 @ 12:34AM
Oldefarte: the more pot you smoke, the more paul makes sense. Immigration perspectives, QED.
Occam's Tool| 2.3.12 @ 12:34AM
Well, Clint, Walls are a good way to control borders. I have no idea what mystical force Paul thinks will do that instead, but I am not a disciple as you are.
Paul is a gibbering moron. Speech without actions, concepts without workable plans. name one legislative achievement the Galveston Gibbon hashad passecd in over over 30 years of being a backbencher par execranse. (Not excellance, execranse.)
Occam's Tool| 2.1.12 @ 5:38PM
It's fairly obvious that Mitt will need Florida. Rubio doesn't want the job of VEEP; West will man up and take it. Then we will go high/low, and West will tear them APART.
Al Adab| 2.1.12 @ 5:55PM
Obamas margin of victory can be overcome by the GOP taking the states of FL, NC, VA and Ohio with their collective total of 75 electoral votes. That plus the McCain states, unlikely to change this time, will win the general.
So the question for us all becomes, Do we have a candidate who can manage that in the face of what is sure to become an all out onslaught of lies, half-truths, inuendos and demagogury.
SpiralArchitect| 2.1.12 @ 6:23PM
The world must be really uneventful these days for you to regurgitate someone elses piece.
Speaking of polls. They have indicated that R Paul will beat everyone in every contest possible.
Quinnn, hopefully you do not rely on all polls as truth, you old blowhard.
MJS_PA| 2.1.12 @ 9:24PM
Thanks Quin for the spot on analysis.
Not only do the poll numbers you note reflect some sunny days ahead for the Santorum campaign...one other fact is going to work in Rick's favor: Santorum is the 2nd choice for both Romney and Gingrich supporters.
As both of these failed candidates implode, Santorum will be the natural beneficiary.
somnolence| 2.1.12 @ 10:21PM
Latest Gallup Map has Obama being destroyed by ANY GOP candidate. Look it over carefully as it provides a clearly dreadful beating for the man from Kenya.
somnolence| 2.1.12 @ 10:22PM
Even Oregon currently goes to the GOP. How sweet it is!
NVA Patriot| 2.2.12 @ 8:39AM
Santorum cannot beat anyone.
He lost PA because he became mittstablishment and no longer represented PA. He gave us the 2006 Senate defeat and Alen Specter for another term. Arlen was part of the 60 who gave us Obamacare.
He's now working against conservatives to divide the conservative vote
Diogenes| 2.2.12 @ 11:39AM
What do yu want? Really? 'Anyone but a nigger"
Maxi fraud lobbying ! Let's alll suppport that!!
the "JoB CREATORS"
Isn't limiting how successful a moron can be
Diogenes| 2.2.12 @ 11:41AM
Oh PLEASE!!
unencumber the 3 TRILL
Diogenes| 2.2.12 @ 11:50AM
I apologize. My brother ......................took ...
megapotamus| 2.2.12 @ 7:54PM
I hope Rick does continue and prosper. Newt as well. Romney must be denied a coronation, that is the least we should aspire to. I Sure, Santorum has his problems but compared to either of the alternatives he is Goldwater in a glass. And he was even willing to take it to the well-nibbled idol Ronald Reagan for his can-kicking approach to entitlements. That is a truth long overdue. Romney is not merely a liberal but actively opposes conservatives and games the system to his own benefit. Florida and Virginia tell that tale. Newt is, frankly, a madman. Not to say one mad man might not be preferable to another but why let it get to that point unnecessarily. I can find no substantive argument from the Right, much less conservative that does not recommend Santorum over his rivals. Electability? That is self-fulfilling and the supposed King of Electability is also the guy with no room and apparently no will to oppose Obamacare in any but a pro forma fashion and even that is quite begrudging.
Silver Bullet| 2.2.12 @ 8:05PM
Rick Santorum = Jimmy Stewart (the actor).... a straight arrow. We need "Mr. Smith" to go back to Washington. Santorum's character is as good as gold, he is rock-solid conservative, even if he made the well-intentioned mistake of campaigning for Specter (hoping to keep the Senate in Republican hands). NO ONE in public office has been more pro-life, for the unborn, than Santorum. He authored some substantial legislation. We need someone with maturity, with integrity, with courage -- Mr. "Smith" has courage; so does Rick.
Rick Santorum -- he WILL be the nominee.
Then, next January, these glorious words will be heard all across the world:
"I, Richard Santorum, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and that I will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States," so help me, God!
KOTAY| 2.2.12 @ 9:05PM
If people would put God before money Rick would win. Wouldn't it be nice to have a president who knows God, protects the unborn, has integrity, morals. Yep I pick Rick
Barbara Bridwell| 2.3.12 @ 12:42AM
If people supposedly like Santorum over Gingrich. Why does Gingrich always win over Santorum. Just asking a dumb question?