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The Spectacle Blog
Ron Paul said that Iran’s threats to blockade the Straits of Hormuz is justified because we’re blockading them.
Um, no, we’re not blockading them. I think what Paul meant to criticize was our sanctions against Iran which he has said on past occasions is an act of war.
Tehran Ron does himself no favors when he acts like a apologist for the Islamic Republic of Iran, not an advocate for the United States of America.
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JP| 1.23.12 @ 10:03PM
Watch this, ROn Paul says 9/11 = Crime, but any sanctions on Iran = Act of War http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzS-NQKewy4
Jack in Wi.| 1.23.12 @ 11:02PM
Ron Paul rocks. All the others are lapdogs of the most extreme elements in Israel. Ron Paul is for our military people. He wants them home with their families, not fighting in another losing war in the Middle East and us having 20 dollar a gal. gas in the middle of the worst depression in 80 years.
We should do with Iran what we did with the Soviet Union, China and Vietnam. send an ambassador, open diplomatic relations, trade with them, have tourist and educational relations with them, and welcome them back into the world community. 25000 Jews live well in Iran and they could leave at anytime. I went to school with many Iranians in the 1960's. They are fine cultured people, who haven't invaded any neighbor in 200 years.
Occam's Tool| 1.23.12 @ 11:42PM
Rand Paul tonight, on Greta von Susteren, called for profiling Middle Eastern students. How you like that, Jack?
Jack in Wi.| 1.24.12 @ 12:53AM
Occam: Nothing wrong with profiling Midde East travelers, especially the Israeli's and their Mossad Terrorists and assassins. Israeli terrorism and false flag operations are a threat to world peace and against international law. It is a lot better idea then your tribesman Chertoff ex raying everybody at the airports and feeling up 90 year old grandmothers. Why the hell should Chertoff make all those millions destroying the liberties of Americans with his ex ray machines?
Con Chef (NB) | 1.24.12 @ 8:42AM
Hopefully, one of those insidious Mossad assasins has a file on you.
The breadth of your stupidity knows no bounds, Jackboot.
Clint| 1.24.12 @ 8:49AM
The 4-F Neo-Chickenhawk Con Job Wants His Moosad Girlfriends To Go After An American Dr.Ron Paul Supporter.
Bring It 4-F Traitor Bastard Coward, Con Job.
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The 4-F Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Coward, Con Job.
Hobbes| 1.24.12 @ 10:15AM
Paul made an excellent point that the US has cut benefits for poor Americans while giving tons of aid to countries like Israel who spend the money on FREE health care. Why are other countries poor more important than ours?
Con Chef (NB) | 1.24.12 @ 12:22PM
Show me proof that Mossad assasins are roving this land, killing goyim at will, dumbass.
You know where to find me, valor thief.
DevilDog| 1.24.12 @ 12:47PM
aw look! its pocketlint.
just another BOY who couldnt find his manhood. always too scared to stand on the wall. prefers the basement.
so pocketlint, how many ron paul blowup dolls you pop with that toothpick you call a manhood?
DevilDog| 1.24.12 @ 12:45PM
its da JOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's.
right jackieBOY!
it was da JOOOOO's that did all the highjackings in the seventies.
its da JOOOO's that are fighting Americans in Afghanistan.
its da JOOOO's that bombed our embassies.
hey jackieBOY, was you daddy by any chance ivan the terrible?
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:06PM
Paul is the only candidate seeking the GOP nomination; the others are seeking the Likud Party nod.
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:07PM
Except for Ron Paul, all the other candidates, including Obama, are offering is the prospect of war with Iran. For the last 30 years, all Iran has heard from the U.S. and other nuclear powers is threats of war. Why wouldn’t Iran want a nuclear weapon to protect itself or level the playing field? Maybe talking might get us farther than saber rattling; it helped us avoid war with nuclear powers like the Soviet Union and China.
If Iran must be opposed militarily, let a nuclear power like Israel or a coalition of the Gulf states oppose Iran. Iran is oceans and continents away from the United States. Why is American blood and treasure required? We cannot afford it, and we have already lost thousands of young men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A nation like Iran, that "cannot even provide gasoline" for its people is hardly poised to become an expansionist empire. Our war in Iraq gave Iran more influence in Iraq, and near sovereignty in southern Iraq. We continue to fight in Afghanistan and bomb Pakistan. By destabilizing Iran's neighbors, U.S. policy is enabling Iranian expansionism. The U.S. policy makers are facilitating the very ends they claim to oppose.
A re-evaluation of our policies in the Middle East, and toward Iran, is long overdue.
JP| 1.23.12 @ 10:36PM
Paul's weakness would guarantee war with Iran
Clint| 1.23.12 @ 10:49PM
The Israel Firsters Agenda Will Guarantee War With Iran.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is In Florida.
Bob Grant| 1.24.12 @ 9:32AM
No. Obama's weakness will guarantee a war with Iran.
This is why your boy can never be elected!
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:51PM
We're already in a covert war with Iran, and we're already headed for a much hotter war with Iran - quite without Paul's help.
It is the neocons who are making us weak; not Paul's constitutional foreign policy.
Jack in Wi.| 1.23.12 @ 11:06PM
Ron Paul has already won. No pro war Republican can be elected President. 70% of the people want and end, to the wars, no new war with Iran and an end to foreign aid.
Naql| 1.24.12 @ 3:21AM
Well, the only problem is that we'll just get a pro-war Democrat instead. Vote Libertarian.
DevilDog| 1.24.12 @ 12:49PM
70% of gutless cowards are paul followers.
there is NOT one single paul follower who ever wore the uniform. i KNOW! VA, VFW, Am Leg, DAV and military bases are VOID of paul followers.
jackieBOY was two things. UNFIT for the uniform and too gutless
Gavin| 1.24.12 @ 8:39PM
Come again?
BoreBrotherBrore| 1.24.12 @ 9:50PM
I just came back from Afghanistan last December. I am a US Army Infantryman. I disagree with your comment Devil Dog. I support Ron Paul.
Dan Phillips| 1.24.12 @ 10:54PM
DevilDog, are you a spoof?
I wore the uniform and I support Ron Paul at least partially because of it. Frequent deployments are very hard on families. But what do keyboard warriors like you care? The troops are just cannon fodder you send off to fight the wars you pine for.
Raicho| 1.24.12 @ 11:07PM
you should do some research on americas forgien policy.
Clint| 1.23.12 @ 10:08PM
The American Veteran Officer Vs. The 3 Chickenhawaks
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
" Dr. Ron Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968).
" Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force in the 1960s, spending time on the ground in countries like Ethiopia, Iran, Pakistan, South Korea, and Turkey. He also sits on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is In Florida
DevilDog| 1.24.12 @ 12:52PM
H&S CO, Comm PLT, 2ND AAV BN, 2ND MAR DIV
H&S Co, Comm PLT, 8Th Marines, 2ND MAR DIV
Bravo Co, 1st Plt, 4th A.N.G.L.I.C.O.
H&S Co, Comm PLT, 4th AAV Bn, 4th MAR DIV
H&S Co, Comm PLT, GESU, 2nd AAV Bn, IIMEF
BERUIT
KUWAIT
IRAQ
1981-1987 Honorable Discharge
1990-1991 Honorable (medical) Discharge( TBI recieved from landmine in COMBAT!
you were saying pocketlint? there is my bio. where is your's?
bet its the same as obama's. ron pul was and is nothing but a REMF!
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:12PM
What is the difference between a blockade, and a U.S. Naval presence to enforce sanctions?
Nothing.
Paul is right; Goldstein is wrong - again.
Aristotle| 1.23.12 @ 10:13PM
Goldenbergstein likes to name call.
BN| 1.23.12 @ 10:14PM
http://www.sodahead.com/united.....94844.jpeg
So all these bases surrounding Iran and warships in the straits of Hormuz are not a blockade?
BN| 1.23.12 @ 10:14PM
http://www.sodahead.com/united.....94844.jpeg
So all these bases surrounding Iran and warships in the straits of Hormuz are not a blockade?
Cpm| 1.23.12 @ 10:17PM
It looks like Ron Paul forgot to remove the coat hanger before he put his suitcoat on.
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:19PM
...and yet Paul is the only one on stage who is not a stuffed suit.
Clint| 1.23.12 @ 10:53PM
Looks Like The Pillsbury DoughBoy Ate All The Muffins.
A Little Pastry Double Entendre
Ryan| 1.23.12 @ 10:35PM
Aaron: like you, I am no Ron Paul supporter. But your eagerness to call your opponents names such as "Tehran Ron" is revealing.
It means that you are either eager to avoid argument on the merits, or else you believe your arguments' merits are so weak that you must distract in order to preserve face.
Argue on the merits, please.
Nick| 1.23.12 @ 11:11PM
But, Ryan, some people are just asking to made fun of.
Just say no to Paul Trek II: The Wrath of Ron.
Ryan| 1.24.12 @ 9:07AM
ARGH. Not the usual Ryan.
Aaron Goldstein| 1.24.12 @ 2:49PM
Given Ron Paul's ongoing advocacy of the Iranian government's position, calling him "Tehran Ron" is quite apt.
In the meantime, I would encourage you to read my recent article, "Ron Paul's Submissive Side."
http://spectator.org/archives/.....ssive-side
MT| 1.24.12 @ 10:50PM
"Given Ron Paul's ongoing advocacy of the Iranian government's position, calling him "Tehran Ron" is quite apt."
>> It's this kind of comment that is disturbing and mark of a propagandist. He's not "advocating" Iranian policy. He's saying this is a natural reaction one would expect from a nation who has been on the receiving end of all the threats coming out of the US government.
Yes, our government has been the aggressor. Our government overthrew their government with the '53 coup to protect British oil interests. Our government supplied arms and funding to Hussein in Iraq's war with Iran. Our government has imposed crippling sanctions on their country. Our government has invaded and occupied their two neighboring countries to the east and west. Our government has warships parked off their coast. Our government has threatened a pre-emptive military strike on Iran. Our government is the only one that has actually used nukes. Our government has no credibility on nuclear negotiations after we talked the Libyans out of their program and then overthrew their government anyway. It has been suspected that either our CIA and/or the Israeli Mossad are responsible for the assassinations of Iranian civilian scientists.
How can you possibly rationalize that a) Iran is a threat to our national security, and b) we have not been the aggressors against Iran?
I'm sick and tired of hearing this war propaganda spewing nonsense and all you can come up with is "Tehran Ron"???
China must be laughing to the bank while we continue to drain our resources and warmonger around the world.
Please, get real.
JP| 1.23.12 @ 10:38PM
Ron Paul on IRANIAN STATE TV claiming, or Lying rather, that Israel is running a "Concentration Camp" in Gaza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Y3-Cn5vIk
Tehran Ron indeed
Bob Waters| 1.23.12 @ 11:22PM
JP's knows all about the Gaza strip. Everyone should listen to him because he's an expert....
Where the hell did you get your omnipotent knowledge of the Gaza strip from oh blessed one?
Jack in Wi.| 1.24.12 @ 1:01AM
Gaza is a concentration camp and the whole world knows it. End the terror. End the hate Integrate the Israeli state. Equal rights for all the people of old Palistine. Muslim, Jew, and Christian. Zionism and Israel belong on the ash heap of history along with the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and apartheid South Africa.
DevilDog| 1.24.12 @ 2:27PM
Israel respects every religion. that is why muzzies hold posts in gubment in Israel.
how many Jews in gubmint posts in iraq, iran, saudi arabia, yemen, lybia, pakistan, etc....
so that PROVES that you are nothing but a lying SOS. that you willingly wear blinders.
that thw only HATE is whats in your socalled heart.
according to jackieBOY, America is responsible for mexico being a concentration camp. America should imprison all whites and turn everything over to the mexicans.
ps, jackieBOY, i grew upon the RES. thats reservations for you BOY
Teste Clemente| 1.23.12 @ 10:40PM
Are you kidding with this? There is no difference between sending the Navy to enforce an embargo and a blockade. It's an act of war. You're dead wrong.
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:57PM
Frederic Bastiat said the same centuries ago; “when goods do not cross borders, soldiers will.”
For the neocon warmongers, that is the point entirely. Foment war at any cost.
bill| 1.23.12 @ 11:09PM
USA is acting in self-defense, and never waged a war. Iran is the aggressor.
Tim| 1.23.12 @ 10:55PM
Suit up Aaron and co.
If there's a war with Iran, you guys and gals would be best to serve and fight. The fervor you show for war is a good indicator of how well you'll do with the gun and bomb.
Jay| 1.23.12 @ 10:58PM
No, no, no; the dying is for OTHER men's sons.
Jack in Wi.| 1.24.12 @ 1:05AM
There is no outrage so great, as that of the non combatant. Aaron sure fits that bill. He will fight to the last drop of some one else's blood.
DevilDog| 1.24.12 @ 2:32PM
and that is WHY jackieBOY never wore the uniform. always willing to let OTHERS do the fighting while hiding in mommies basement
Sean| 1.23.12 @ 10:57PM
Paul recognizes actions have consequences. Iran wasn't threatening action until the USA and EU destroyed their currency.
bill| 1.23.12 @ 11:07PM
Iran conspired the 9/11 attack with Al-Qaeda.
Sean| 1.23.12 @ 11:21PM
There is no evidence of that. Iran is a Shia nation surrounded by Sunni enemies.
bill| 1.23.12 @ 11:06PM
Iran is a terrorist country. BOMB IRAN TO THE ASHES!
Bob Waters| 1.23.12 @ 11:14PM
Yes, lets commit holocaust on 70 million Muslims. I think you read Mein Kampf way too many times.
Hobbes| 1.24.12 @ 12:04PM
bill is a Ku Kluxing warmongering hater. How many Taliban have you killed? Damn keyboard warriors.
Bob Waters| 1.23.12 @ 11:11PM
Are you that dumb or just writing these things to get web hits. Do you even know why we have sanctions on Iran? Did you know those sanction existed and still exist because our prince of the middle-east ally Saddam Hussein decided that a blitzkrieg military invasion was fantastic idea. We're not blockading Iran? What in God's green earth do you think a sanction is? Do you do any research before you open your mouth?
Occam's Tool| 1.23.12 @ 11:44PM
Wow. The paulbots are antisemitic scumbags, proved again.
The Strait of Hormuz problem is our problem because of our EUROPEAN allies, not the Israelis.
Hobbes| 1.24.12 @ 12:05PM
Then let the Europeans handle it.
Jim| 1.24.12 @ 1:00AM
To provoke a war with Iran serves Israel's interests not America's interests.
Israel wants to use American military to build an Zionist empire, at the same time, over trillions dollars warmongering expenses will crush America's
already weak economy, the Zionists then will usher
in their New World Order - a Zionist empire to replace American empire. This is America's endless warmongering is all about.
Watch the video www.911missinglinks.com
Israel did 9-11, all the proof in the world.
Wake up Americans!
Ron Paul has American's best interests in his heart that is why he opposes provoking a war with Iran.
Sassan| 1.24.12 @ 7:29AM
lol more Paultards with 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. I love it! Ron Paul supporters themselves demonstrate over and over again what irrational and delusional nuts and wackos they truly are.
Susan| 1.24.12 @ 3:11AM
I am so sick of the comments made againist Ron Paul for taking the bravest stance with regards to Iran. No one wants more nuclear bombs out there in other countries. Why is it that the US continues its close support of Isreal when they have refused for years to have the IAEA into their country to check Isreal's nuclear productivity. Who are we to tell Iran they are not allowed to have nuclear weapons? I do not support Iran but I do know that the people I have met from Iran do not want any trouble with the US. Iran has radicals and hate groups and so does the US. Ron Paul doesn't want another fake war where our sons and daughters die just because we can't mind our own business.
Sassan| 1.24.12 @ 7:33AM
The people you met from Iran do not want any "trouble" with the U.S. because we are pro-American and pro-west as a people. It is the maniacal regime occupying Iran that is the enemy of the Iranian people. This is a regime that as a practice rapes our young sisters before executing them so that they don't "die as virgins". This is a regime through their "hidden imam" ideology wants to bring an end to humanity and as a prerequisite must "reconquer" Jerusalem and wage a global war in which 2/3rd of humanity perishes through war, havoc, chaos and famine as accorded by the Hadith. This regime is the very enemy of the Iranian people and of humanity itself.
Ron Paul is truly the enemy of the Iranian people. Iranians will never forget that in 2009 a single congressperson voted against the resolution "expressing support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law." And that single congressperson was Ron Paul. It is no surprise that Islamic Republic state sponsored terrorist television PressTV has been actively using Ron Paul's material for their own propaganda and anti-American purposes.
Le Cracquere| 1.24.12 @ 9:42AM
Congratulations, Sassan: a direct hit. When it comes to cheerleading the spilling of innocent blood and worse, no Republican pol holds a candle to Dried Apple That Walks Like a Man (his Indian name--true story).
Dan Phillips| 1.24.12 @ 11:16AM
So Sassan, the Iranian people aren't hurt by sanctions then? Innocent Iranians won't die if America starts a war in the name of democratizing Iran? If you were pro the Iranian people you would be anti-sanctions and pro-peace. An attack by America will brutalize your people assuming you are who you say you are. I have my doubts because your theological assertions are too talking pointy.
Ron Paul votes against all such resolutions because it is not the business of the US Congress to tell other countries what to do. They are meaningless attempts to grandstand that often do more harm than good.
Sassan| 1.24.12 @ 5:49PM
Of course the sanctions hurts the people too but it hurts the regime much more. We have already been suffering over the last 30+ years under this horrid and maniacal regime and the government already eats up the money and has brought the economy down as it is - so this is a sacrifice we have to make in order to get rid of this regime.
This regime will KILL EVERY LAST IRANIAN to keep power if they could. I was in Iran for over 8-months last year and one commons sentiment in Iran was that "Bush liberated the wrong country" as we are not Arabic, have become a truly secular people, and value western ideals of freedom, liberty, and democracy. Iranians are pro-American and pro-west. We have suffered the brutalities of this regime like no other.
I am PRO-IRANIAN, not Pro-Mullah. We consider these Mullahs to not even be Iranian at the end of the day as they care nothing about Iran or Iranian culture - they are twisted in a fanatical game of the most vile form of Islamic rule and law. In fact, the Mullahs with the black turban even "claim" to have Arab blood and be descended from Arabs from the time of Muhammad. Iran means NOTHING to them. Therefore, I am pro-Iranian and anti-Mullah and anti-Islamic Republic. You cannot be both pro-Iranian and pro-Mullah. You must either stand against this regime in supporting the Iranian people or being an appeaser to evil.
And I will repeat, Ron Paul is the ultimate moral coward.
"The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer." - Theodore Roosevelt
Jason | 1.24.12 @ 8:27PM
Quoting TR just proves you're a progressive warmonger, not a conservative.
Sassan| 1.24.12 @ 10:19PM
When did I claim I was a conservative? I am a moderate Democrat - a moderate Democrat that has great respect and admiration for President Bush. In fact, if Newt wins the nomination, I will consider voting for him. Staying silent in the face of evil makes one complacent, particularly when U.S. national security interests are at stake.
MT| 1.24.12 @ 10:36PM
"Of course the sanctions hurts the people too but it hurts the regime much more. "
Wrong. Sanctions hurt the people much, much more and actually empower the regimes with which they are designed to punish. It also forces the people to rally around their governments out of necessity. Those sanctions against Cuba have done wonders over the years, right?
Iran is NOT worth a drop of US blood or penny of US money. Iranian internal affairs are a matter for the Iranian people and them alone. Our soldiers do not take an oath to put their lives on the line for removing dictatorships and oppressive regimes around the world... they take an oath to defend this country only. This Iranian policy is absurd and Paul is absolutely right on this... once again.
Sassan| 1.24.12 @ 11:57PM
Nonsense. The Iranian people will NEVER rally around the regime and in fact, blame the regime for the sanctions - not the west. You Ron Paul zombies are indoctrinated with your nonsense spouted by the moral defeatist and terrorist appeaser Ron Paul.
We need to get rid of this regime not only for the sake of the Iranian people, but for the sake of U.S. national security interests and the global security of the world and humanity itself. The key point to remember is that a free Iran will be a pro-American Iran and one that is friendly with the west as it was in the past before the Mullahs came to power.
MT| 1.25.12 @ 9:36AM
With all due respect, your entire comment is delusional and not grounded in reality.
How is that pro-American sentiment working out in Iraq and Afghanistan?? How about Pakistan, Libya, Egypt?? How did regime change work out in Iran in 1953? Do you really think Muslims are that dumb that they forget how much we support, subsidize, and arm tyranny in their countries?
You have no rational basis for your argument and yet look around at almost every other country in NE Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia that we have attempted to install friendly governments and then the actual reaction from the people.
I'm sick and tired of this delusional neo-Wilsonian policy of attempting to forcibly install secular, westernized democracy on countries who are primarily inhabited by people that know nothing of the sort and are overwhelmingly devout Muslims.
And I'm the indoctrinated zombie?
Please come back with some historical precedent or evidence to support your utopian claim. Until then, stop this dangerous rhetoric that is only going to get more young Americans killed and more of our wealth squandered.
Sassan| 1.25.12 @ 10:58AM
Iranians are FAKE Muslims and in fact, the vast majority do not follow any religion - and this is not only among the youth. In fact, based on my time in Iran and being Iranian, there are more atheists in Iran than in the U.S.
We are not Arab. Our culture is pre-Islamic and this includes all our holidays. If you've come to contact with any Iranians inside of the U.S. as have many Americans, you would see that Iranians are not really Muslim and in fact, less and less even self-identify as Muslims but of course they can't say this in the public under this regime as they would be executed as apostates.
Dan Phillips| 1.24.12 @ 11:22PM
Sock Puppet ... er ... I mean "Sassan," I saw you on another anti-Ron Paul thread on another web site. Is someone paying you to troll around the web attacking Ron Paul?
I think you're a plant. You spout well wore talking points. The cereal box theology. The "we'll be welcomes as liberators" clap trap. At least come up with some original material.
Jason | 1.25.12 @ 5:29PM
Sanctions sure did wonders toppling the Saddam regime in Iraq and made their people welcome us as liberators. Starving and then bombing people isnt the best method to win support.
Tom| 1.24.12 @ 6:16AM
Ron Paul is the best friend that the enemies of America ever had.
9thID| 1.24.12 @ 10:30AM
State of the Union: Obama is making Jimmy Carter look good, and Ron Paul is making Jane Fonda look like Patton...
Sassan| 1.24.12 @ 7:26AM
hahaha!! I love it! Tehran Ron! lol. How about Ayatollah Ron Paul? :P
Dan Phillips| 1.24.12 @ 8:46AM
"Tehran Ron?" Aaron, you are such a demagogue. Have you no shame?
Sanctioning Iran's central bank is potentially an act of war. I DARE YOU to disagree with this and lose all credibility. If some other country sanctioned the Fed (which ought not to exist anyway BTW which only Ron Paul talks about) you would be howling like a stuck pig and you know it.
The interventionists are trying to goad Iran into doing something stupid so they can get their war they so desperately want.
Ryan| 1.24.12 @ 9:15AM
It's like there can be no in-between with anyone.
1. The case against Iran is overstated at times. I don't think we'll ever really need to come into armed conflict with Iran, at least on a large scale. Economic and diplomatic sanctions, and supporting rebel elements within the country, and cyber-war efforts should do most of the work.
2. Iran funds terrorism. We know this - they supplied arms to shoot and blow up our troops in Iraq. They also fund and supply Hamas and Hezbollah. Such actions should stop.
3. Iran should not get a nuclear weapon. Allowing Nukes in the hands of anyone who funds terrorism is a mistake. Period. They have no qualms about firing rockets FROM civilian areas into civilian areas.
4. Israel may not be a saint. Can't there be an in-between stance that occasionally Israel may not treat Palestinians properly. However, the Palestinians make little case that they should be supported. If they stopped firing onto civilians and using terroristic methods, maybe there would be room for sympathy. There isn't. It's the same with much of the rest of the Muslim world.
If you engage civilians with military measures, then there is little good faith to negotiate.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.24.12 @ 12:23PM
Cue "Israel Firster" & "chickenhawk" tag lines.
Well said, Ryan.
Jason | 1.24.12 @ 8:26PM
I'm a US Army vet. My best friend died in Iraq in 2007. And I support Ron Paul.
If Israel has a problem, let them deal with it. If Israel needs money, let them borrow it from China like we do. Why are we borrowing money from communist countries and sending it overseas? We have enough problems here. Israel is a foreign country, not the 51st state. We don't need to be involved in their decisions about security, they're big boys and can handle it.
Even an armed Iran isn't a threat to us. Pakistan has nukes and they full of "terrorists" and "islamists" and oh look, we send them money... and bomb them too. Our policies over there are self defeating and retarded.
Keith Roddy| 1.24.12 @ 9:54PM
Thought provoking. Insightful. Trustworthy. Why do our own research when we can get the straight answers from Aaron Goldstein. What vested interest does Aaron have in trying to diminish the character of Ron Paul? What does Aaron find so threatening about Iran, when the CIA claims Iran as no threat as well as Benjamin Netanyahu proclaiming Israel doesn't need our help with Iran? When will people decide to do their own investigating into our foreign policies, monetary system and true reasons for our economic decline? That will be a good day. We will no longer have use for the Aaron Goldsteins of the world to feed us propaganda and perpetuate mental poverty.
EarthFirstNH| 1.24.12 @ 9:58PM
Well, there are always three sides to a coin you know. Guess who is trading Iranian oil for gold now? Look it up. So now America and Europe put sanctions on Iran, who befriend our creditors and will begin to trade oil without using dollars. Iran gets gold, India/Russia/China get oil, Amerca gets devalued dollar, sells debt to China. Good job guys!