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Ron Paul Praised David Duke

It wasn’t quite a full endorsement, but it sure sounds like Paul approved. Now I usually discount any meaning to Duke’s announcements about who HE supports in any race, because a candidate cannot be held responsible for any idiot’s decision to back him. That’s why I ignored it when Duke announced he would vote for Ron Paul: It doesn’t mean Paul supports Duke or that his views are Duke’s, etcetera.

But as you can see from the first link, Duke was just returning the favor, or the near-favor, from Paul from 1990. When somebody pointed out this old Paul newsletter to me, I couldn’t believe my eyes. But it’s real. follow the links. Granted, carefully parsed, Paul is more defending the Duke voters in LA from the charge of racism than he is celebrating Duke’s performance. But it’s almost impossible to read Paul’s newsletter, complete with exclamation points, without concluding that Paul thought Duke’s strong vote count in the 1990 Senate race was a good thing. And there is nary a word actually condemning Duke’s racist and anti-Semitic views, nor his by-then-established continuing ties with neo Nazis.

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William R| 1.14.12 @ 1:49PM

You're a third rate hack Hillyer.

What would the “Smearbund” do without David Duke? No smear campaign is complete without dragging him into it. No matter what the subject—the Iraq war, the Mearsheimer and Walt book, affirmative action—if you take the politically incorrect position, according to the neocons, then you’re marching shoulder-to shoulder with the former Klansman and professional nut-job.

And sure enough, the Kirchick piece takes the Paul newsletter to task for supposedly having “kind words” for Duke. Yet, if you go and read what the newsletter says about Duke, it is clear the author was merely saying Duke’s success is due to his opposition to affirmative action and the welfare state: indeed, Kirchick cites a passage (without citing it in full) in which Duke is taken to task for his lack of a “consistent package of freedom.” Yet the willfully ignorant Radley Balko, another Cato type, avers: “I simply can’t imagine seeing any piece of paper go out under my name that included sympathetic words for David Duke. That a newsletter with Paul’s name did just that demands an explanation from Paul.”

The explanation, which would be apparent if Balko had actually cited what is written, is that these weren’t sympathetic words for Duke, per se, or his political ambitions, but for the issues—legitimate issues—that he raised (and exploited) in his Louisiana campaign. After all, libertarians such as Paul reject affirmative action, racial set-asides, and all other forms of state-enforced special treatment for “minorities” precisely because they oppose racism, or any form of collectivism.

By the way, libertarians also oppose so-called civil rights legislation that outlaws discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation, or disability, because it violates the rights of property-owners. William F. Buckley Jr. famously derided libertarian (and “right-wing populist”) opposition to such legislation as valorizing Lester Maddox’s refusal to “serve a Negro a plate of pork chops.” Buckley’s quip surely underscored the venality and small-mindedness of Maddox and his ilk—and yet, lost in all this, is the reality of the libertarian position, which is that people have the right to be venal, small-minded, and, yes, viciously, stupidly, horribly wrong, provided they don’t initiate the use of force.

http://takimag.com/article/why.....z1jSYmQ1q6

Oldefarte| 1.15.12 @ 12:03PM

See below: “...Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”Mr. Paul’s anti-Federal Reserve, small government platform appeals to many on the far right. In the wake of the controversy over the newsletters, he’s increasingly faced questions about his white supremacist supporters, but he has declined to disavow their backing.“If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Mr. Paul told the New York Times on Sunday......"

Jack in Wi.| 1.15.12 @ 2:44PM

Ron Paul's webbsite anounces that theire will be a huge endorsement of him tommorrow at 6PM in South Carolina just before the debate. Quin Hilliyer is a disgarace to any kind of journalist values. He seems to be becoming increasingly deranged by the thought of Romney going down.

Jack in Wi.| 1.15.12 @ 2:52PM

Who will be giving this endoresment? Will it be Billy Grahame, General Normon Schwartzkoph, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, James Dobson, Bibi Netanyahu, Jimmy Carter, Strom Thurmonds son, Walter Williams, Bristol Palin, Oliver North. i haveen't got a clue. I think that is the point of this announcement on the webb sitte. To keep us guessing.

Nick| 1.15.12 @ 3:45PM

Little Jack-boot from Wi.: Grandpa, yesterday Jimmy said I was prejudiced.
Grandpa: Do you know what prejudice is?
Little Jack-boot from Wi.: No
Grandpa: Well, prejudice is when you react to someone because of their religion, or their color.
Little Jack-boot from Wi.: But I don't do that!
Grandpa: Who is Jimmy?
Little Jack-boot from Wi.: Jimmy's one of my Jewish friends.
Grandpa: Then you are prejudiced, because you think of Jimmy as your Jewish friend, and not your friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJXtTIbDTo

Occam's Tool| 1.16.12 @ 3:06AM

Aaron Rodgers: destroyed this weekend.

Ron Paul's Campaign: destroyed Next Weekend.

I hate CHEESEHEAD assholes.

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 11:52AM

"...merely saying Duke’s success is due to his opposition to affirmative action and the welfare state"

But that statement in itself is a lie. Duke's "success" was largely due to racism pure and simple.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 2:03PM

Are Anti- Muslim Bigots Supporting Little Ricky Chickenhawk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6PVE7QkUY

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Oldefarte| 1.15.12 @ 12:01PM

Anti-Muslim Bigots? Shazam, the same innocent Muslims that flew four confiscated airliners filled with jet fuel that insinerated 3000+ innocents office workers on 9/11/01, you DUMBARS??????????

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 1:45PM

Muslims like, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaquille O'Neal, Usama Young, Ahmed Zewail, Ayub K. Ommaya....

Anti-Muslim Bigot Boy.

Occam's Tool| 1.16.12 @ 3:13AM

Zewail is one of, what 3 Muslims to win a science based Nobel prize (deservedly). 5 Jews won the Nobel Prize in the Hard Sciences in 2011 ALONE. Multiple Israelis have won the Nobel, yet you want Israel destroyed, Clint. Anti-Jew Bigot Boy....

By the way, the work he won it for was done in America, not Egypt.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 10:30AM

The first three are NOT 'Muslims' [not sure about the others]. They are converts to the Muslim religion. Did any CATHOLICS ever confiscate airplanes and fly them into buildings killing 3000 innocent, non-combetant office workers? Does the Catholic Church religiously promote be-heading/killing non-believers of their Catholic faith? Does the Catholic Church have a special set of laws that govern their legal existence? Did Catholic Church members attack and kill 23 sailors abord the USS Cole? Did Catholics murder, be-head, burn the corpses and hang from a bridge 10 private firm contractors working in the Middle East? Do Catholics command as part of their religion the be-heading of non-believers? Wake up, you dumb piece of excrement!!!!!!!!

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 4:00PM

The Papacy put to death millions of Bible believing Christian for six centuries, Oldefarte~ because they refused to accept it's false teachings, and stood on Scripture.

So, the answer to your question is: YES.

The only reason they can't still get away with it today, is because this is America, and there are laws.
But the cult has NEVER repented of the Apostate teachings that LED them to do this.

Nick| 1.17.12 @ 12:23AM

Margie,

"The Papacy put to death millions"

No, it did not. And, you can't back-up this bogus claim, which you constantly repeat.

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 10:37AM

NO, Margie you are incorrect in your prejudice. The Roman Empire did put to death individuals during their political control, and of course there were deaths/punishments of non-Catholics during Medieval wars, but there were equal numbers of Catholics and other religious denomination members who were likewise killed/punished depending upon who/what was politically in control at the time. OMG, are you perhaps attemting to compare those ancient times events to now? No offense, but to attempt to do so is bordering on the insantiy level no doubt. Please rationally restrict your argumentations to my ASKED QUESTIONS that are strictly relative to today only.....do Catholics, Methodists, Baptists etc [sane, rational religions guilty of the human death atrocities that these radical Muslims perpertrate TODAY?????????

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 10:41AM

PS: the Roman Empire referred to above was NOT the Catholic, and any intelligent knowledge of those times would allow an understanding of same. In fact, the Roman Empire and Pontious Pilot as their emperor were strictly responsible for the death/killing/cross-hanging of Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church was not even established until after [and as a result of] the death of Christ. Please get your facts straight, okay???????

Haddit| 1.16.12 @ 12:14PM

Obama supports the Rev. Wright. What's the difference?

aahh| 1.14.12 @ 2:06PM

This piece of shit called a blog post could also have been published in the STÜRMER. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Stürmer

Mender| 1.14.12 @ 2:43PM

aahh invokes Godwin's law: Quinn Hillyer is like a Nazi for saying this!

Nonsense. This is dynamite and Ron Paul is toast.

aahh| 1.14.12 @ 3:02PM

No! I'm saying that Quin Hillyer blog post is the same kind of "journalism" that Der Stürmer was presenting. Gonzo propaganda journalism is not limited to Nazi propaganda outlets, sadly.

So, I'm no friend or supporter of Ron Paul, in fact I'm not a US citizen and don't like his position on immigration. But I'm a friend of good journalism and this piece is not.

In the newsletter (first link of the blog post) there's no "praising" of the this Duke character by the author at all. The author acknowledges, that Duke had problematic past and held unacceptable political views, but that he changed and now embraced equal-rights and small government. People change, they develop and grow over time. That's what the newsletter author wrote. Nothing else.

Mender| 1.14.12 @ 4:17PM

Ah fair enough, maybe we don't have such different views after all.

But I think that this crosses a very clear moral horizon: I think there is something wrong with sounding triumphant about the electoral success of a Ku Klux Klan leader. Even if you think that his success is due not to racism but due to his tapping into a public craving for political views you also express that the mainstream doesn't-which is a very debatable view in itself.

Right way to respond to the result: "David Duke winning is a bad thing because he is an evil man. But my view is that he is tapping into a public desire for small government and we need to respond to this, take up this banner and crowd him off the stage."

Wrong way to do it: "To many voters, [David Duke's views] seem like just plain good sense."

Occam's Tool| 1.14.12 @ 9:45PM

Paul routinely attempted to solicit donations from antisemitic organizations, including Willis Carto's SPOTLIGHT. Living in the Galveston area apparently destroyed his sense of smell; this is understandable.

By the way, he's gonna finish fourth in SC. Wave bye-bye, Paulbots.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 10:24PM

You're The Israel Firster Smear Bund Clown,Tool Job, Who Said You 'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney

" Two new polls: Paul surges in South Carolina, Santorum slumps

Texas Rep. Ron Paul has broken through in South Carolina, according to two polls released Friday that show a dramatic increase in support for the libertarian favorite just eight days before the state’s first-in-the-south Jan. 21 primary.

Paul polled at 20 percent in a statewide poll of South Carolina voters released Friday by American Research Group. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led with 29 percent and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was just behind him at 25 percent."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Clown, Tool Job.

Occam's Tool| 1.15.12 @ 12:49AM

Santorum should beat him, too. Bye, Clint.

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 8:25AM

Santorum Is A Chickenhawk Like You, Tool Job.

Bye, Israel Firster Smear Bund Ass Clown.

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 11:55AM

It's difficult to argue with Clint regarding the charge of being a "chickenhawk." After all, who should know more about chickenhawks than Clint?

Haddit| 1.16.12 @ 12:17PM

Are you saying you wont vote for the Republican nominee if it isn't Paul? You will be doing the Democrats a huge favor Clint.

Occam's Tool| 1.15.12 @ 12:48AM

Another unfortunate accident occurs to a Ron Paul supporter, January 14th---from WeaselZippers:

"(Reuters) — A Palestinian man who had been preparing an attack on Israeli targets was killed on Saturday in an explosion at the home of a militant leader in the Gaza Strip, his group said.

The explosion took place at the Rafah home of Zuhair Al-Qaissi, chief commander of the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), an armed Palestinian faction that often operates independently of Gaza’s Hamas rulers.

The PRC confirmed the man killed was a member of the group and that he was preparing an attack on Israelis when the blast occurred."

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 8:29AM

This Is America Israel Firster Smear Bund Jerk,Tool Job.

We Ain't Votin' For Your Mancrush Bibi.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 3:10PM

" Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

I have been asked by various media the last few days for my comments, view of the current situation regarding my former boss Ron Paul, as he runs for the presidency on the Republican ticket.

I’ve noticed in some media that my words have been twisted and used for an agenda from both sides. And I wish to set the record straight with media that I trust and know will get the story right: conservative/libertarian-conservative bloggers.

Is Ron Paul a “racist.” In short, No. I worked for the man for 12 years, pretty consistently. I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth. Not once. And understand, I was his close personal assistant. It’s safe to say that I was with him on the campaign trail more than any other individual, whether it be traveling to Fairbanks, Alaska or Boston, Massachusetts in the presidential race, or across the congressional district to San Antonio or Corpus Christi, Texas.

He has frequently hired blacks for his office staff, starting as early as 1988 for the Libertarian campaign. He has also hired many Hispanics, including his current District staffer Dianna Gilbert-Kile. "

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Occam's Tool| 1.14.12 @ 9:46PM

Donero also believes Paul's foreign policy is distinctly bonkers, Clint. Care to cut and paste that, jihadi fellator?

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 10:29PM

Eric Dondero-Rittberg Is An Israel Firster Bibi Butt Boy Just Like You Are, Israel Firster Smear Bund Bibi Butt Boy,Tool Job.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Ass Clown, Tool Job.

Occam's Tool| 1.15.12 @ 12:48AM

Then I guess his praise of Paul's lack of antisemitism is also worthless, eh, Clint?

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 1:22AM

Actually, Your Fixated Serial Israel Firster Smear Bund Bibi Butt Boy Condemnations Of Dr.Ron Paul Are As Worthless As You Are,Tool Job.

See A Real Psychiatrist, You Worthless Obsessed Sorry-Assed Bottom Of The Barrel Government Excuse For A Shrink, Tool Job.


" Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks. "

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 1:25AM

That's A Direct Quote From Eric Dondero-Rittberg.
Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

Haddit| 1.16.12 @ 12:21PM

Maybe so Clint but were they Afirmative action boys and girls? Remember, how fair that is to those who can spell their own name. Would it be racist to say Afirmative Action sucks?

Jay| 1.14.12 @ 2:10PM

More crap from the Spectator.

No one trusts this garbage from Lord et. al. any more.

beebop2| 1.14.12 @ 6:08PM

I don't need to read any of this to understand that Ron Paul is not going to be the candidate of the Republican party. Thank God!

Micah B. Haber| 1.14.12 @ 2:49PM

Mr. Hillyer commits journalistic malpractice. The Ron Paul newsletters writers' identities have been known since no later than 2008; they do not include Ron Paul. Hence, it is impossible for Ron Paul to have "praised David Duke" per the headline, or to be "defending the Duke voters in LA."

Mender| 1.14.12 @ 4:21PM

Ron Paul: "Racist views being expressed under my name? Really? Heck, not even I was reading my newsletters in the 1990s!"

Brubaker| 1.14.12 @ 9:46PM

That is a preposterous line of defense. The newsletters went out as Ron Paul newsletters. When you put your name on a document -- or have your name placed on it -- you own it. It's yours, for good or bad. Trying to weasel word a way out of it is not going to help.

Anthony M| 1.15.12 @ 10:55AM

Did you read what the newslettter says? There is absolutely nothing racist or anti-semitic or pro-Duke in it. Are we really going to accept every headline about a Republican candidate? The news media, apparently even the somewhat conservative American Spectator, lie when it comes to racial issues. I'm not a Paul supporter, although I will vote for him if he wins the nomination, but these ridiculous Troskyite tactics sicken me.

C Bowen | 1.14.12 @ 3:14PM

Quin apologizes for the scoundrels who lied the country into war by linking Saddam to 9/11 and circumventing the intelligence gather systems with forged documents, but what really gets his dander up, is noting that anti-white racism (aka Affirmitive Action) might be a good issue to run against a liberal.

You backed the pro-abortion candidate back then Quin?

Sean| 1.14.12 @ 3:20PM

So David Duke managed to get more of the black vote than McLame. There is nothing wrong with the article at all. Paul does not support David Duke. The article was written about an election that at that time was current news. It explained why Duke received that amount of support. It also questioned why people with communist back ground get a pass by the MSM.

By the way Quin's boy Santorum comes from a red communist family. That is why he favor unions and big government over right to work.

smitty| 1.15.12 @ 5:59AM

Bravo...... Paul said nothing wrong and Duke is still relevant

sirbourbon| 1.14.12 @ 3:26PM

Enough already, pho-geta-bout-it.

Look back a history and the associations that Harry Truman, Hugo Black and Robert Byrd had with the Klan. The US senate confirmed Hugo Black by 63 Yea votes but that did not mean they endorsed the KKK!

Duke had renounced the Klan. Did Truman, Byrd and Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black ever renounce their associations? Truman was a dues paying member as was Robert Byrd. But you guys in the media pick and choose who in public life can never renounce their associations.

In your screwy logic Byrd,Black and Truman don't deserve the opprobrium that Duke got in the media for his past associations with the Klan that he publically disavowed and was sorry for. I suppose if Duke had been campaigning as a liberal pro-war nut case you'd send him a campaign donation?

Margie| 1.14.12 @ 5:10PM

"Ron Paul Praised David Duke".

Surprise, surprise, surprise!!

I was posting this stuff 2 years ago.. right Clinty-pooh??

It's where the flame wars began.

William F. Buckley | 1.14.12 @ 6:30PM

Aren't there some liberal sites for you to post on Marge?

The New Republic was as scared of Iraq as you and your husband--try it out.

Margie| 1.14.12 @ 7:30PM

Hey! Check it out!! The website this is linked to is none other than one that Toddard used to link to.. with articles written by Red Phillips.

I used to always wondered how it was that Toddard disappeared and Tim*/aka Clint seemed to have taken his place.. but then, all of these guys talk the same way.

They HATE conservatives, lie about what we truly believe in order to make themselves look good, when they're the FRAUDS.

Exactly the same thing the lying Papists do it!!

You see, I'm a liberal to these guys (and you all are too).. and I'm a "bigot" to the Papists.. because I REJECT both of their lying cults.

Nice try, Clinty-pooh the Pope-i-Traitor, but I'm not going anywhere.

I'm a Bible believing Christian AND staunch conservative, and reject the cult of Paul and the Pope!!

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 9:24PM

Uh Oh !

Serial Paranoid Conspiracy Nut Bag And Obsessive Anti-Catholic Bigot, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie Is Still Seeing Tea Party Clint Behind Every Bush.
I Neither Am Your Fixational Other Opponent Toddard, Nor Do I Know Who He Is.

I've Seen Red Phillips Posts On American Spectator & I Wouldn't Know Him, If I Fell Over Him.

You're American Spectator's Resident Serial Chronic Nut Bag And A Serial Anti-Catholic Joisey White Trash Bigot Pig As Well, Margie.

The Tea Party Steps On The Joisey Anti-Catholic Nut Bag Maniac, Margie.

Margie| 1.14.12 @ 10:35PM

"The one overcoming will inherit all
things, and I will be God to him, and he
will be the son to Me.
But for the cowardly and faithless ones,
and disgusting ones, and murderers, and
fornicators, and users of magic, and idolaters,
and all liars, their part will be in the
Lake burning with fire and brimstone,
which is the second death." Rev. 21:8.

Oldefarte| 1.15.12 @ 11:56AM

If you 'Fell Over Him', you'd be falling over not only HIM but YOURSELF and TLP perhaps also!!!!!!!

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 1:44AM

Wow. How did I get dragged into this? Conservativetimes.org is a blog I have with several other paleoish writers. I am not Toddard, but I know who Toddard is. I have no idea who Clint is or who "William F. Buckley" above is, but I appreciate him linking to our blog. If you want to learn what authentic conservatism is you should check it out.

Truth to Power| 1.15.12 @ 9:46AM

Is or was David Duke an authentic conservative? If not, why not?

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 1:42PM

At the time of his campaigns for Senate and Gov., Duke was trying very hard to distance himself from his past radicalism and adopt a typical right-wing populist message. His message was deliberately intended to sound very much like Pat Buchanan's message at the time. See the Murray Rothbard quote that I pasted below.

Authentic conservative is admittedly a bit hard to pin down precisely, but the right-wing populism of Pat Buchanan circa 1992 and 1996 is certainly a lot closer to it than is neoconservatism which is a post-Enlightenment liberal ideology.

C Bowen | 1.15.12 @ 7:51PM

Red;

William Buckley in National Review said the same thing about Duke.

What we have affirmed is that Quin's 1990s girlish "Republicans against Racism' (was that on MTV?) outfit proves his Ruling Class credentials.

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 11:03PM

"Ruling Class credentials."

C Bowen, that is probably giving Quin more credit than he deserves. At the time he was a leader in the LA Young Republicans who was interested in proving his PC bona fides with his PC grandstanding. What he proved was his credentials as a water carrier for Morris Dees.

Ryan| 1.16.12 @ 8:10AM

This. +100.

Duke was attempting to hoodwink LA people when he was running for Senate and Governor.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 10:36AM

I lived in Louisiana during the Duke tenure...don't try and explain David Duke to me PLEASE [you're simoly not qualified to do so]!!!!!!

Ryan| 1.16.12 @ 12:33PM

I was responding to Red above. I lived in LA at the same time.

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 1:09AM

Hello Red,

Authentic conservative don't blame America for terrorism, and they don't excuse them for ANY reason.

They also aren't anti-semitic and anti-Israel.

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 10:53AM

No doubt the Catholic Church has its faults/misdeeds [as do all other religions], but THE BIBLE was written by MEN, not God [although at his inspiration/providence/direction] but to blindly worship this BOOK OF MEN to the absolute exclusion of all other sources of devine inspiration etc could rightfully lend credence to the oftimes description of such character as a BIBLE THUMPING IDIOT perhaps and, compared to descriptions of a religion as a CULT with PAPAL WORSHIPERS, would become imbicilic beyond belief. If one is knowledgable and learned of the bible's words/inspiration and lives according to same in following the ways of God, then obviously one has a first class ticket to heaven upon death, but to critisize other rational religions which offer comparably equal pathways to said ultimate journey is simply stupid. Prejudice exists in all forms, not just racial etc, and as such is un-Christ-like and detrimental to one's character, and must be purged from the heart if present!!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 10:57AM

PS: Christ once proclaimed GO AND SIN NO MORE, and no doubt He was partially referring to the sin of prejudice against fellow Christians aka Catholics!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 6:40PM

Read & Remember, Eric Dondero-Rittberg Is An Israel Firster, But Not A Raving Obsessed Maniac Like You, Israel Firster RINO-CINO, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie.

" Written By : Eric Dondero

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

I have been asked by various media the last few days for my comments, view of the current situation regarding my former boss Ron Paul, as he runs for the presidency on the Republican ticket.

I’ve noticed in some media that my words have been twisted and used for an agenda from both sides. And I wish to set the record straight with media that I trust and know will get the story right: conservative/libertarian-conservative bloggers.

Is Ron Paul a “racist.” In short, No. I worked for the man for 12 years, pretty consistently. I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth. Not once. And understand, I was his close personal assistant. It’s safe to say that I was with him on the campaign trail more than any other individual, whether it be traveling to Fairbanks, Alaska or Boston, Massachusetts in the presidential race, or across the congressional district to San Antonio or Corpus Christi, Texas.

He has frequently hired blacks for his office staff, starting as early as 1988 for the Libertarian campaign. He has also hired many Hispanics, including his current District staffer Dianna Gilbert-Kile.

s Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks. "

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Occam's Tool| 1.14.12 @ 9:48PM

Well, Clint, if all Catholics were like you, Margie's views on Catholicism would have great merit.

They are not, but I stay clear of religious issues as long as they don't involve supporting child rape, like yours obviously do. I'm not saying that's a Catholic viepoint; I'm saying it's yours, jihadi fellator.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 10:35PM

You're A Serial Screwball Israel Firster Smear Bund Liar, Tool Job.

You're The Israel Firster Smear Bund ButtBoy,Who Said You'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Bibi ButtBoy, Tool Job.

William F. Buckley | 1.14.12 @ 5:50PM

Dec 2, 1991, National Review

"[J]ust as we like to think Gorbachev has truly renounced the evil doctrines he was so recently associated with, so has David Duke."

I then praised Duke for his view that "white people also have rights."

I then said that if I lived in Louisiana I probably wouldn’t vote for Duke (who was running for public office at the time), but then again "I would however force myself to wonder whether I was being vindictive" by not voting for David Duke.

Margie| 1.14.12 @ 10:32PM

Occam,

They aren't MY views, they're God's views, according to the Bible.
But you haven't studied the Bible and compared it with the teachings of the Vatican, so you wouldn't know, nor can you with honesty then say that what I present is untrue!

And, it's about DOCTRINE, not individuals.

Christians believe the Words of God, as written in the Bible.
Catholics believe the words of the Vatican.
And they are NOT of God.

NOW: It so happens, Occam, FYI, that the more ensconced one is in this cult (and that IS exactly what it is, as it does NOT teach the Gospel of Grace), then the more vile and hateful they are towards Bible believing Christians.

Have you not read ANY of the information I've posted here?? The Popes & their minions actually killed Jews as well as Christians, you know?? For six centuries.

And they still teach the same ungodly teachings today that were taught then that led them to do so.. they have never repented of these blasphemous teachings.. that teach that Bible believing Christians are heretics.. and so.. I am that to them.

And the majority of Christians here won't take a stand because they're plain cowards.. they'd rather say I'm hateful rather than truthful.. so be it.

OF THE UNGODLY AND FALSE CHURCH, WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE CHURCH OF GOD, AND THE ORIGIN, PROGRESS AND SUCCESSION OF THE SAME THROUGH ALL TIMES

http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/martyrs007.htm

Anthony M| 1.15.12 @ 6:27PM

Sweetheart,
Catholics own bibles, too. If you read the bible as you claim. you would know that if one loves God, loves his neighbor as himself and believes Jesus is the son of God, he is saved. Catholics believe this.

Margie| 1.15.12 @ 8:10PM

Dearest:

If you read your Bible (not the Catholic Bible, which has added words to it), you'd have read this:

"2Jo 1:9 Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God; he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son." 2 Jn. 1:9.

Catholicism's doctrines are NOT Christ's doctrine.

They teach that Mary was born sinless, and attribute to her status of Mother of God.

This is a lie, and blasphemy. And it is only ONE of the myriad of false and unbiblical doctrine.

You read His Words.. now deal with them.

And LOVE means telling people they are believing a lie.
THAT is what CHRISTIANS do!

SO: wake up and start believing HIS GOSPEL. And when you do, TURN and preach it.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 10:49AM

Marg, as a born, raised, and COLLEGE EDUCATED [WITHIN A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY], let's don't get too far out on that limb of religios problems. The Catholic Church is not a 'cult' and existed before the Baptist Church, the Methodist Church, and each/every other PROTESTANT CHURCH. Protestant churches and their followers certainly have their respective problems [as well as the Catholic Church] which are all too numerous to enumerate here. The basic difference between NORMAL Christian religions [of which the Catholic Church is a member of certainly] and the Muslim religion is that the former do not preach/condone the killing of non-believers whereas the latter not only does so but commands it as a prerequisite to being a member of their religion. Let's respect each other's belief system and understand our respective differences, as our Lord and Saviour wishes us to do, okay? As you have indicated here, let's also TELL THE TRUTH as much as possible in our arguments [and distinguish ourselves from the provaricators and scumbags amongst us as Christians]!!!!!!

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 1:47PM

Olefarte,

The Catholic church put to death millions of Bible believing Christians for six centuries, because the Christians refused the false teachings of this cult.

A cult teaches that Mary is Mother of God, that she was born without SIN and therefore co-Redemtrix with Christ.
Sorry~but that's a cult!!
And I'm not a scumbag for speaking the truth about it.
Notice the VILENESS I get fro telling the truth.
The Bible says as I posted above, that if you refuse to abide in HIS doctrine, you cannot have Christ.

HIS doctrine says Jesus is the ONLY Mediator between God and Man.

Mary is NOT.

This is why Jesus commands to do... what?

REPENT AND BELIEVE HIS GOSPEL.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 3:57PM

Margie, You misintrepreted my above, as I have the most profound respect for your professed Christianity and apparent human goodness and charity. As a non-practicing Catholic and being fully aware of the many, many failings of the Church, I only request that you open your mind to that beyond your obvious partisaned belief in Protestanism. Mary is/was the Mother of God, since she bore/birthed Jesus Christ [how else was he born if not by the humanity of Mary by the almighty power of God?]. All humans [including Mary] were born WITH ORIGINAL SIN after Adam and Eve committed the FIRST ORIGINAL SIN, and were only saved [releived of ORIGINAL SIN by the the birth of Jesus. Mary is NOT a "....therefore co-Redemtrix with Christ..."; and you obviously have been misinformed regarding Church theology somehow. Your Protestanism beliefs center around the bible as the sole source of your faith, whereas Catholism additionally [to the bible] considers its Church traditions [your Protestanism also similarily rejects Judaism's traditions in their non-exclusive adherence to biblical wording]. Any person honestly following Christ's example will secure their salvation IMHO, but do recall the old saying that.....A PROTESTANT MINISTER IS SIMPLY A CATHOLIC PRIEST THAT FLUNKED LATIN WHILE ATTENDING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, okay??????

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 4:17PM

Oldefarte,

Don't you worry my friend, I do not mistake you for one of the hateful lying Pope worshippers here, and I know you are coming from a good place, but let me explain:

I'm not a Protestant. Protestants still abide by some of Catholicism's teachings, I don't.
I'm just a Bible believing Christian who has the same FAITH as the Apostolic fathers~ that means I believe what they taught~ and they are the ONLY TRUE "Church" Fathers.

And, my friend, I cannot open my mind to anything other than the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It states that Mary bore Jesus, not God.
There is a difference.

God is the Father of His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. Jn. 3:16.

Mary did not give birth to God, the Father, God has no Mother.

Mary was not born sinless, she was a sinner, chosen by Grace like all Christians are.

They really DO teach this.

The Catholic teaching therefore places Mary as co-Redemptrix. And I've posted the Vatican's own words here before, so I am not incorrect.

And they pray to her.

Sorry, but this is blasphemy.

And FYI~ You have just given the definition of true Christians~ Christians are those who REJECT all teachings that don't match up with the written Words of God.

And that's what God commands us ALL to do.

As it is written:

"REPENT and BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus Christ." Mk. 1:15.

So, no "open" mind for me! Jesus says that the Way is narrow that leads to life, and those that find it are few.. I hope to be one of the ones that stays in the narrow Way, by the Grace of God.

"For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Mt. 7:14.

Jesus loves you more than you know, Okdefarte!
The Papists would tell you you need to come back to "the church."

Christians will tell you, come back and welcome to Jesus Christ!! :^)

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 4:47PM

Margie, Yes Catholics do pray to Mary, BUT NOT as a God-equal figure. Please source-quote official Catholic proclaimations of "....The Catholic teaching therefore places Mary as co-Redemptrix...." for my education, since I missed same within my Catholic education of sixteen years within Catholic schools. Also, I'd love to hear your biological explanation/thesis of "...Mary did not give birth to God, the Father, God has no Mother..." [since this runs counter to my Catholic education of the ''''Immaculate Conception''''' concerning Jesus' birth; do you somehow support some possible theory of evolution instead as an alternative explanation of Jesus' birth?]. As I said, the Church has many faults [the sexual abuse of children being the most egregous/intolerable to me] and I am no longer a practicing Catholic because of same. Take care!!!!

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 4:58PM

PS: Per the Catholic Church, Mary was Jesus' HUMAN mother who was used by God to provide Jesus' humanly existence [and she is entirely HUMAN and certainly not EQUAL TO GOD in any manner of speaking]!!!!

Nick| 1.17.12 @ 12:17AM

OF,

"and I am no longer a practicing Catholic because of same."

Why would you let the despicable and criminal acts of a relatively small number of men drive you away from your faith?

Didn't Saint Peter deny Christ three times? Was this not worse than any of the diabolical crimes committed by these predator priests, or the spineless bishops who tried to cover-up these crimes? And, yet, Christ chose Peter to be the Kephas, or Rock, on which to build His Church, didn't He?

Don't let the sins of fallen men keep you from Christ, truly Present in the Holy Eucharist. This is just what Satan wants. Please, pray on this. Let the Holy Spirit show you the way.
God Bless!

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 5:43PM

Nick, I truly respect your charitable ability to overlook and forgive, but to my elderly viewpoint after 16 years of Catholism education is that I simply do need the Church's protection in order to be saved. As long as I'm a good Christian, I'll be okay outside the Church [but thanks for your concerns and God bess you!]

Nick| 1.17.12 @ 6:44PM

You're very welcome, OF.
I'll keep you in my prayers. Please say one for me, as I need as many prayers as I can get!
God Bless!

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 4:22PM

Oh, p.s. Christians are spiritual Jews. Jesus is the Messiah and gives His Grace to those who repent and believe in Him, and we've been grafted in along with His chosen people.

And now, Christians preach the Gospel of Grace to the Jews, so that they may be grafted back in to the Vine.

We don't reject the Old Testament, we just know that Jesus is the fulfillment of it!

"He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal. His praise is not from men but from God." Rom. 2:29.

Nick| 1.17.12 @ 12:08AM

Margie,

"Christians are spiritual Jews."

Now, you are paraphrasing Pope Pius XI, who said, "Spiritually, we are all Semites."
Next time, give attribution, okay?
God Bless!

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 11:07AM

That's sick. The bible is nothing but a book written by men/human beings according to their supposedly becoming inspired by God, and to blindly base faith in God upon the words of same is stupid, since it contains numerous examples of falsehoods/inaccuracies etc. Comparatively speaking, are readers of the NYT and other newspapers supossed to blindly believe that everything contained within its pages is pure truth, and is not slanted, personalized, biased etc by its writers that are expressing their OPINION OF THE FACTS? Faith in God is strictly that. You, myself nor anyone else DO NOT know the facts of God and salvation, but we simply BELIEVE certain thing to be true. BELIEVING and FACTS-TRUTH are not necessarily the same thing. !!!!!!!!!!!

Interloper| 1.14.12 @ 6:42PM

Lest anyone fall for these defenses of David Duke, it is a FACT that he is still a leader of the white supremacist/neo-Nazi movement. The ONLY people who support him are white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Anyone championing him, including in 1990, was supporting those views.

And, Duke does very well financially. His felony conviction for defrauding his followers has not stopped them from continuing to make him wealthy. They appreciate a voice that affirms them in their immorality.

Furthermore, Ron Paul posed for pictures with white supremacist/neo-Nazi, Don Black, who endorsed him last week. He, Duke and Paul are said to be old pals.

http://bit.ly/uo6X1i

Paul still demands the repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. An ideal Paul society would be racially segregated. A segregated society can never be a free society because it is intentionally depriving segments of its population of basic rights.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 9:43PM

That's A Lie.

You're A Liar, Interloper.

Neither Duke Nor Black Are Old Pals Of Dr.Ron Paul.

Do Your Homework.

Ron Paul "I don't want white supremacists support"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund.

Occam's Tool| 1.14.12 @ 9:50PM

Well, then, he should have returned the STORMFRONT money and not hit the rounds of SPOTLIGHT's subscription list for money.

Clint, your boy is going down, just as you do on your jihadi johns every day and night.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 10:39PM

You're The Israel Firster Smear Bund AssClown,Tool Job, Who Said You 'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney

" Two new polls: Paul surges in South Carolina, Santorum slumps

Texas Rep. Ron Paul has broken through in South Carolina, according to two polls released Friday that show a dramatic increase in support for the libertarian favorite just eight days before the state’s first-in-the-south Jan. 21 primary.

Paul polled at 20 percent in a statewide poll of South Carolina voters released Friday by American Research Group. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led with 29 percent and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was just behind him at 25 percent."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Bibi Butt Boy AssClown, Tool Job.

Oldefarte| 1.15.12 @ 11:52AM

See below: "....“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”Mr. Paul’s anti-Federal Reserve, small government platform appeals to many on the far right. In the wake of the controversy over the newsletters, he’s increasingly faced questions about his white supremacist supporters, but he has declined to disavow their backing.“If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Mr. Paul told the New York Times on Sunday......"

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 2:25PM

"....Mr. Black is a former Klansman and member of the American Nazi Party who founded the “white nationalist” website Stormfront in 1995. He donated to Mr. Paul in 2007 and has been photographed with the candidate...."

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 4:20PM

Liar, liar, Paulie's TOO SHORT SHORTS are on fire: '....Paul..FightsWashington..Spending,..Flies..FirstClass ..Monday, January 16, 2012 06:35 AM..By: WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been spending large amounts on airfare as a congressman, flying first class on dozens of taxpayer-funded flights to his home state. The practice conflicts with the image that Paul portrays as the only presidential candidate serious about cutting federal spending.
His congressional staff says Paul chose not to buy the cheaper economy tickets at a fraction of the price because they aren't refundable or as flexible for scheduling.An AP review of Paul's congressional expenses and average airfares found that Paul charged taxpayers nearly $52,000 on the more expensive tickets, or $27,621 more than the average Continental airfare for the flights between Washington and Houston.Paul portrays himself as the most frugal and serious deficit hawk in the race.....'

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 1:30AM

The Civil Rights Act is blatantly unconstitutional as Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley and all serious conservatives at the time understood and Ron Paul is right to oppose it. The passage of time does not make the law any less unconstitutional no matter how much nerve modern "conservatives" have lost. Ron Paul’s willingness to publicly oppose the Civil Rights Act is one of the things that proves he is a real Constitutionalist and not a cafeteria Constitutionalist like all these other pretenders.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 2:18PM

I certainly don't agree with said law's necessity, BUT is it 'unconstitutional' because yourself and Paul declared it thus? Maybe we should just replace the SCOTUS with the Supreme Paul Court of the United States or the Supreme Red Phillios Court of the United States perhaps, huh???????????

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 2:19PM

Hey, maybe that's the answer to getting rid of WELFARECARE.....we can simply elect Paul as president and he can thereafter declare it 'unconstitutional'[without the need for the SCOTUS to do so], huh?????

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 6:40PM

Oldefarte, NOWHERE in the Constitution does it declare the Supreme Court to be the final arbiter of what is and is not constitutional. If you were familiar with originalism you would know this.

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 1:25PM

Nowhere in the constitution does it declare Ron Paul the sole source of interpretative knowledge concerning same either. Paul may be a physician with knowledge of healing/medicine, but he has never studied/practiced/written law etc, so his opinions are strictly that.....OPINIONS [and unlearned ones at that]. You constitutionalist are equally prejudiced-blind as these similar strict bible wording adherents are to alternative thoughts concerning God. It's your way or the highway which is purely stupid. The constitution was written several hundred years ago and wasn't intended to strictly be interpreted literrally to the time-era it was written in, and not be applicable to the present. It has to be intrepreted, but in comparison-relation to when it was written, and not according to judges liberal progressive extrapolition of their own personal viewpoints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9thID| 1.15.12 @ 6:57PM

There is a strong neo-Confederate bent among Paul's cult following. On Paul threads, many of his acolytes use very racial bigoted language and monikers invoking the Old Confederate South...

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 11:12PM

"many of his acolytes use very racial bigoted language and monikers invoking the Old Confederate South..."

You are going to have to help me out here 9thPC. Are you saying they use "racial bigoted language and monikers" and invoke the Old Confederate South or that by invoking the Confederacy that is equal to "bigoted" language? Please give me some examples of this bigoted language that you say you see "many of his acolytes" using.

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 12:06PM

Perhaps Red Phillips could check the posts of Clint and a few others who post on AmSpec if he wishes to see bigoted language. (But then, there are none so blind as those who will not see.)

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 6:45PM

As far as I know, Clint has never said a word about the Confederacy.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 6:44PM

Dr. Ron Paul Has The Israel Firster Smear Bund To A Point,Where They Don't Know Whether To Scratch Their Watch Or Wind Their Ass.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

jfhdsiu| 1.14.12 @ 6:55PM

This article reads more like an agenda driven personal opinion designed to malign Ron Paul. To suggest that something Paul wrote "sure sounds like Paul approved", sure sounds like the writer is deliberately trying to make a case under the "birds of a feather clause"! I call this article a deliberate hit piece and as such has no validity!

winston | 1.14.12 @ 7:01PM

Ru Paul is clinically insane.

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 6:47PM

So Winston, what's his DSM IV diagnosis then? What symptoms of that mental illness render him clinically "insane?"

aware| 1.14.12 @ 7:10PM

This link is what you are proclaiming to be Paul's "praise" of Duke? That's all you got? There is some pleasure at the fits Duke caused the Chattering Class and their bosses the Ruling Elite. But I don't read any endorsement or praise in it.

What normal person doesn't enjoy seeing conniptions among them?

jfhdsiu| 1.14.12 @ 7:11PM

As for David dukes, I liken him to Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Eric Holder, Barry Soetoro and other blacks who are doing and saying the same kinds of things on the black's side of the equation. I do not believe in "do as I say, not as I do"! If one is going to point out perceived racism for a white, then one should raise the same clamor over the perceived racism of a black. Let's not have a one sided villainization when there are TWO sides to that story! To cite one and not the other is the height of hypocrisy.

Teresa Beck| 1.14.12 @ 8:04PM

You need to take a look at Ben Swann's "Reality Check" series. He's the only journalist who actually investigated the newsletters. Ron Paul is a libertarian. By definition, a libertarian sees each individual as created equal by God, not made equal by the government. He's not a racist: http://www.fox19.com/story/164.....ewsletters

http://www.fox19.com/story/164.....ewsletters

9thID| 1.14.12 @ 8:04PM

This is just the tip of the iceberg and once the MSM decides they are ready to rip Pauly, it will get ugly.
A Libertarian's view on Ron Paul's newsletters:
"How Did We Get Here Or Why Do The 20 Year Old Newsletters Matter So Damn Much"
http://tinyurl.com/7zde4yf

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 9:34PM

The Israel Firster Smear Bund Is In The Building.

Tell It To Wolfe Blitzer, Israel Firster Smear Bundist.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CYNV0U_kg

Margie| 1.14.12 @ 10:36PM

The only Rebellion you're part of is the one against God.

Clint| 1.14.12 @ 10:46PM

You Think That About All Us Catholics And Jews And Muslims And Just About Anyone,Who's Religious Practices Don't Kneel To Your Personal Apocalyptic Crank Lady Eisegesis Of The Bible.

You're American Spectator's Resident Joisey White Trash Religious Bigot, Apocalyptic Crank Lady, Margie.

Margie| 1.15.12 @ 1:35AM

You don't get to say what I think because you're a liar.
And as always, your post is nothing but lies.
You care nothing for the truth, no matter who says it, about anything.

And what matters isn't what I say, it matters what God says.

You might want to actually buy a Bible and read it sometime.

If you have a soul left and really want to know where you're heading.

"Jesus says to him, I am the Way, and the
Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the
Father if not through Me." Jn. 14:6.

Jesus sets the standard.. not you, not me, and especially not the Pope.

zombyboy | 1.15.12 @ 1:48AM

He also cares deeply for annoying capitalization choices and the efficiency of copy-paste commenting while defending the one true love of his life from the scurrilous attacks of those who might just hold a mildly different opinion from his own.

For what it's worth...

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 8:35AM

That's Because I'm A Capitalist And You're A Tad More Than Mildly Different, Zombyboy.

Margie| 1.15.12 @ 8:12PM

Anarcho-Capitalist, correct??

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 1:02AM

Correct?

aware| 1.16.12 @ 5:42AM

That would be me, Margie. Anything else makes you a worshiper of the Great Whore run by the Money Changers.

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 1:52PM

I worship the God of the Bible, and His Son, Jesus Christ. I believe every Word of God that is written in the Scriptures and in the New Testament concerning them.

That makes me a daughter of the Most High, not a Whore of Babylon.
The Catholic Religion, which teaches a different Gospel, is pat of that Whore~ Babylon is a figure for false Religion in the Bible.
It isn't Israel as the Catholic cult teaches!

"Every Word of God proves true; He is a Shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar." Prov. 30:5 & 6.

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 8:06PM

Margie,

How many times do I have to tell you?
The Harlot and Babylon represent Jerusalem and the Herodian/Sanhedrin ruling elite.
Not the Catholic Church.
Get your facts straight, okay?
God Bless!

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 1:34PM

What about preacher frauds like Jim Baker, Jeremiah Wright etc who preach the bible in return for stealing their ignorant congregants' income in the name of "Jesus says to him, I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father if not through Me."?????? [for every pope, there are a million DA bible preachers on each/every street corner in America; and at least the pope is scholarly and intelligently learned of the bible and of God's teachings, and not some dumbars half-wit with a bible in his hands]!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Swanson| 1.15.12 @ 12:53AM

There is much to dis-like about Ron Paul, this just adds to the pile.

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 1:25AM

Hillyer you are worse than a hack. You are actively shilling for the left-wing Cultural Marxist PC thought police. I don't know how people like you can look at yourselves in the mirror every morning knowing you are carrying water for Morris Dees and company. Don't you have any self-respect?

You have no excuse. You are from LA and were according to your Wiki entry involved in this battle then. (Apparently Morris Dees has had a hold of your balls for a long time.) You know good and well that Duke was trying very hard at the time to distance himself from his past. So are you going to condemn every one of your fellow Louisianans who voted for Duke (43.5%) even though they are the exact same people who you expect to vote for whatever clown the Republican Party nominates (assuming it’s not Ron Paul) to a degree that likely approaches 1 to 1? You can’t condemn Ron Paul for attempting to explain Duke’s appeal without condemning all your fellow Louisianan Republicans who voted for Duke.

Oldefarte| 1.15.12 @ 11:47AM

As a former Louisiana resident and a registered Republican, I gladly/proudly voted for Democrat Edwards over Republican Duke, so GTH and stay there!!!!!!!!!

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 1:22PM

GTH? Well, that wasn't very nice.

You still owe me an apology for scoffing at me when I said there was a new Herbert Hoover book out. Well there is a new Herbert Hoover book out. It's kinda made a bit of a splash when it was released. Try to keep up.

http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-.....449&sr=1-1

I patiently await your apology. Both for being wrong about the book an for telling me to gth.

That said, Duke got 55% of the white vote against Edwin Edwards. Are you going to condemn all those people who you know good and well you expect to vote for Romney if he is the nominee? Go on and do so hypocrite.

C Bowen | 1.15.12 @ 7:57PM

Red;

What is the point? These folks proudly admit that murder is a lesser sin to the Trotskyite ethical sin of "racism."

They have an entirely different set of 10 Commandments.

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 10:56PM

Hey C Bowen, you knew there was a new Herbert Hoover book out didn't you? I don't think these interventionists ever read. Fox News didn't tell Oldefarte about it so he had no idea.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 11:02AM

I don't know or care what you're referring to by Hoover book. I dispute the 55% that you refer to, but a large number did vote for him, but there have been a large number of bigoted, hate mongers not only in Louisiana but also in the neighboring states as well. Thankfully enough rational, educated, decent human beings realized the donwside of Louisiana electing a former KKK grand dragon as GOVERNOR, and had the common sense to stop it. As one of those, I held my nose and voted [the one/only time I've done so] for a DEMOCRAT, even though he was a corrupt and worthless politician, since I and the rest of us had not choice. Many Germans supported Adolph Hitler also in the 1930's-40's, SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING BY YOUR 55% COMMENT??????????????????

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 6:54PM

I made a comment in another thread about the new Hoover book confirming the contention that FDR intentionally attempted to provoke the Japanese. You then scoffed at me suggesting that there couldn't be a new Hoover book since Hoover is deceased. The problem is however that there is a new Hoover book, posthumously published of course. I asked for your apology in that thread. So far I haven't gotten it.

As for the 55% number, you can't dispute it because it is a documented fact. I wasn't just making up a number off the top of my head. Look at the Rothbard article I linked to. You really need to learn how to do this little thing some of us like to call research.

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 1:47PM

I'll repeat to you that I NEVER communicated with you concerning a Hoover book[possibly you forgot to 'research' the fact that there is also an OLDFART blogger here which is not me and no doubt you confused the two of us possibly]. Re-read my 1/16/12 11:02am comments above; and again understand that whether it was 55% or not is not the issue, but that EVEN '1' person voting for Duke was outrageous enough. So what if his financial etc arguments were sound/correct....if you 'research' Aldolph Hitler and his Third Reich, you'll also discover that their financial arguments were principled. In both cases, it's their respective ways of accompolishing their economic/financial ends through the means of population imprisonments/assaults that is the problem and which is criminal, immoral and dastardly [and anyone else so similar believing such MEANS JUSTIFIES THE ENDS theories are AS*HOLES!!!!!!!!

Ryan| 1.16.12 @ 12:36PM

If Duke's recent past is any indication, he was trying to hoodwink Louisianians into believing he had changed his stripes. He nearly immediately went back to them when he lost the governor's race.

Nancy | 1.15.12 @ 1:28AM

I have a total crush on Ron Paul! He is smart, honest, amazingly well read, gracious, tenacious,
principled, thoughtful, energetic, kind, funny, deep, loyal and a model Christian. Where are all the men like him now-days? Too bad all the good ones are taken. If I can't have him, at least I hope I get him for president!

9thID| 1.15.12 @ 7:00PM

Paul in no more of a Christian and Baptist than Slick Willie Clinton is...

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 11:14PM

Ron Paul is the only one invoking Christian Just War Doctrine 9thPC.

Margie| 1.16.12 @ 4:24PM

Just War Doctrine is CATHOLIC, not CHRISTIAN.

Nick| 1.17.12 @ 12:26AM

A distinction without a difference.
Since, as you know, the first Christians were Katholiks.

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 1:50PM

BS! Catholics are Christians just as much as Protestants. Is it not written that LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE?????????????????????????????

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 1:52AM

We Are Being Set Up By The Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Nancy | 1.15.12 @ 1:54AM

P.S. Oh, and even Jesus had some unsavory associations!

Margie| 1.15.12 @ 8:15PM

Duh. He didn't partake in their Sin, He led them to Himself, and told them to repent of their sins!!

He was with them physically, to save them, He didn't become a prostitute when He "associated" with them, as you put it.

Look up the word REPENT in the Bible... know what it means??

Oldefarte| 1.17.12 @ 1:53PM

LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE or PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES!!!!!!!!!

rickbob| 1.15.12 @ 3:32AM

We all know what the newsletter story (and people who can't let it go) is all about. When have charges of racism been any concern of the GOP? The truth is none of you would care if Ron Paul WAS the grand puba of the kkk. There is a lot of reckless spending and corruption in Washington. What would some say or do to keep the status quo?

Richard Baker| 1.15.12 @ 7:11AM

When I lived in Louisiana in 1988-90, I voted for David Duke STRICTLY as a protest against Bennett Johnston the incumbent Democrat Senator. Knew exactly who Duke was and during the campaign heard and met him in Metairie, LA. Told him he didn't look like the Devil but he was very smooth. If I didn't know his background I would have thought he was a Conservative Republican. Went out of curiosity. Of course, later he was found selling KKK and Nazi pamphlets/books from his State Representative office in the Capitol in Baton Rouge. By the way, you could see he'd had a lot of plastic surgery on his face as I do remember how he originally looked. If Paul's newsletter even obliquely supported Duke then Paul can't run and hide from HIS newsletter, now can he?

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 8:40AM

Dr. Ron Paul Doesn't Need To Run And Hide And Never Has.

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 12:12PM

Reagan's statement was made before Ron Paul stabbed Reagan in the back and went third party.

gaoxiaen| 1.15.12 @ 8:46AM

Don't get your panties in a knot.

florin| 1.15.12 @ 10:08AM

Quin went after gingrich for quite a while, then Romney and now Ron Paul...is he working to get Obama reelected...guess so.

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 10:24AM

Don't Wear Panties.

Oldefarte| 1.15.12 @ 11:40AM

'....Fringe Festival ...Stormfront Founder Don Black Says White Supremacists Thought Ron Paul Was ‘One of Us’By Hunter Walker 12/28/11 10:42am ...Don Black (Photo: Stormfront.org)
Ron Paul was a hot topic this week on the talk radio show hosted by prominent white supremacist Don Black and his son Derek. Mr. Black said he received Mr. Paul’s controversial newsletters when they were first published about two decades ago and described how the publications were perceived by members of the white supremacist movement. Former KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana Congressman David Duke also phoned in to explain why he’s voting for Mr. Paul.“Everybody, all of us back in the 80′s and 90′s, felt Ron Paul was, you know, unusual in that he had actually been a Congressman, that he was one of us and now, of course, that he has this broad demographic–broad base of support,” Mr. Black said on his broadcast yesterday.
Mr. Black is a former Klansman and member of the American Nazi Party who founded the “white nationalist” website Stormfront in 1995. He donated to Mr. Paul in 2007 and has been photographed with the candidate. Mr. Paul has vocal supporters in Stormfront’s online forum. Mr. Black has repeatedly said he doesn’t currently think Mr. Paul is a “white nationalist.”
Mr. Paul’s newsletters contained threats of a “coming race war,” worries about America’s “disappearing white majority and warning against “the federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS.” He has since denied writing the newsletters, which appeared under his own name.
“I didn’t write them, I disavow them, that’s it,” Mr. Paul said in a tense CNN interview.
On Monday, Mr. Black said he originally believed the newsletters were written by Mr. Paul.
“They went out under his name in the first person and most people receiving these newsletters, including me, thought he really did write them,” Mr. Black said.Mr. Black said he understood why Mr. Paul would want to distance himself from the newsletters.“It was written in the first person frequently and, you know, a normal person would have thought that Ron Paul must have written this, or at least whoever wrote it must have did so with the approval of Ron Paul, but things change,” Mr. Black said. “So, now that he has this new base of support of course, he’s having–frantically trying to disavow himself from the newsletters, and I agree the newsletters were a little over the top.”
Mr. Duke, who was something of a mentor to Mr. Black during their days in the Klan, called in to discuss Mr. Paul. Though he said he wasn’t ready to make an official endorsement, Mr. Duke explained why he’ll be voting for Mr. Paul.
“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”Mr. Paul’s anti-Federal Reserve, small government platform appeals to many on the far right. In the wake of the controversy over the newsletters, he’s increasingly faced questions about his white supremacist supporters, but he has declined to disavow their backing.“If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Mr. Paul told the New York Times on Sunday......'

Rob P| 1.15.12 @ 12:42PM

So because in his article that about election results and Dukes platform, there was no condemnation of Duke, this makes Ron Paul an anti-semite and racist?

Gotcha! On to the next useless article from pretend journalists.

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 3:15PM

The Smear Bund RINO-CINO Fart Man Is In The Building.

Dr. Ron Paul "I don't want white supremacists support"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Smear Bund Fart Man.

Oldefarte| 1.16.12 @ 11:05AM

If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Mr. Paul told the New York Times on Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Occam's Tool| 1.16.12 @ 3:22AM

No. Taking money knowingly from, and soliciting donations from subscribers to, STORMFRONT and SPOTLIGHT makes Paul a worthless swine.

Pete| 1.15.12 @ 12:54PM

Well I have seen writers of American Spectator praise Obama. See how that game works.

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 1:30PM

"They said in the 60s, when they gently chided the violent left: "stop using violence, work within the system." And sure enough it worked, as the former New Left now leads the respectable intellectual classes. So why wasn't the Establishment willing to forgive and forget when a right-wing radical like David Duke stopped advocating violence, took off the Klan robes, and started working within the system? If it was OK to be a Commie, or a Weatherman, or whatever in your wild youth, why isn't it OK to have been Klansmen? Or to put it more precisely, if it was OK for the revered Justice Hugo Black, or for the lion of the Senate, Robert Byrd, to have been a Klansman, why not David Duke? The answer is obvious: Black and Byrd became members of the liberal elite, of the Establishment, whereas Duke continued to be a right-wing populist, and therefore anti-Establishment, this time even more dangerous because "within the system."

It is fascinating that there was nothing in Duke's current program or campaign that could not also be embraced by paleoconservatives or paleo-libertarians; lower taxes, dismantling the bureaucracy, slashing the welfare system, attacking affirmative action and racial set-asides, calling for equal rights for all Americans, including whites: what's wrong with any of that? And of course the mighty anti-Duke coalition did not choose to oppose Duke on any of these issues. Indeed, even the most leftist of his opponents grudgingly admitted that he had a point. Instead, the Establishment concentrated on the very "negative campaigning" that they profess to abhor (especially when directed against them). (Ironic note: TV pundits, who regularly have face lifts twice a year, bitterly attacked Duke for his alleged face lift. And nobody laughed!)" ~ Murray Rothbard, Jan 1992 emphasis mine

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 12:15PM

Well, there is that minor little itty-bitty matter of rendering America defenseless. That bothers me about Ron Paul just the teeniest tiniest bit.

Nick| 1.15.12 @ 3:55PM

Mr. Hillyer,

You seem to have struck a major nerve.
When people, in order to defend Ron Paul, have to defend David Duke, they have already lost the fight.
They just don't realize it, yet.

Red Phillips | 1.15.12 @ 11:17PM

"they have already lost the fight."

Lost the fight? You're the one dancing to the tune of the Cultural Marxist PC thought police and empowering them by carrying their water. You either recognize this which makes you a shill or don't which makes you a useful idiot.

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 12:45AM

Mr. Phillips,

And, yet, Ron Paul will never be president of the United States of America. Nor, will he be the Republican nominee.
Anyone who believes that he will be, is a shill or a Useful Idiot.

Occam's Tool| 1.16.12 @ 3:21AM

Nick, I am so looking to the Paulbots getting their asses kicked in SC and then GOING AWAY.

aware| 1.16.12 @ 5:56AM

Then you neocons can get back to the job of bankrupting and leading us to the Police State of your wet dreams without opposition.

Tutti all'interno dello Stato, nulla fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato.

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 7:59PM

Occam,

Unfortunately, some of them are like herpes. They never go away! Ha-ha!

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 8:01PM

Oh yeah, and now thanks to his son, when the good doctor goes to meet his Maker, they will be pushing Rand every four years!

Will it never end?

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 10:45AM

Nick, I have never claimed that Ron Paul would be the President or the GOP nominee. In fact, I have said he won't. But that is not the fault of Ron Paul. That is the fault of voters who say they are conservatives but wouldn't know real conservatism if it slapped them in the face. So instead we have "conservatives" for unsound money, central banking, globalist military adventuring, and living and breathing Constitution interpreting wringing their hands that Ron Paul is too radical and might upset the status quo. This is so absurd it defies caricature.

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 7:57PM

So, it is the voters who are just way tooooo stupid to understand that Ron Paul is the only savior for this nation, correct?

It's has nothing to with the facts that the good doctor is too old, or too anti-Israeli, or too much of a truther, or too much of a typical politician, now does it?

Keep living in your fantasy world, Mr. Phillips.

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 10:54PM

"too anti-Israeli"

What does Israel have do do with anything? He is running to be the President of the United States.

I have never said I agree with Paul on everything. He is a libertarian. I am a paleoconservative. But a lot of so-called conservatives don't like Paul because he takes what is unarguably the legitimate conservative position, such as opposition to the Fed. Conservatives for central banking is an absurdity.

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 11:50PM

Mr. Phillips,

"What does Israel have do do with anything?"

Israel just happens to be our strongest ally in the Middle East. The reason the presidency was created by the Founders in the first place was to deal with foreign nations. Gee, what was I thinking?

"I have never said I agree with Paul on everything."

I never claimed that you did.

"But a lot of so-called conservatives don't like Paul because he takes what is unarguably the legitimate conservative position, such as opposition to the Fed."

But, I gave you four legitimate reasons not to support Paul.

"Conservatives for central banking is an absurdity."

You don't consider Alexander Hamilton a conservative, in today's parlance? You are aware that he wrote many of the essays known collectively as The Federalist, aren't you?

jfhdsiu| 1.15.12 @ 4:10PM

Suggestive innuendo is not legitimate in the realm of reality. Those who engage in suggestive innuendo do so because they don't have any VALID dirt to cast upon the object of their ire! Therefore suggestive innuendo is nothing more than a smear tactic. And so it is clear that this article is nothing more THAN suggestive innuendo. It sure "sounds" like an intentional smear tactic to me.

Interloper| 1.15.12 @ 5:33PM

Ron Paul's claims not to be what he is are really disingenuous. The reason white supremacists/anti-Semites support him is that he is a segregationist and anti-Semitic. Duke, Black, neo-Confederates, etc., have the same views as Paul.

It would be better if Paul openly acknowledged being a bigot. His beating around the bush claiming that property rights are the reason he opposes civil rights laws makes no sense because all Americans are entitled to human rights that trump property rights. Better that Paul say "segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." That is what he believes.

Clint| 1.15.12 @ 7:31PM

" Written By : Eric Dondero

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997 – 2003
Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96
National Organizer, Draft Ron Paul for President, 1991/92
Travel Aide/Personal Asst. Ron Paul, Libertarian for President
1987/88

I have been asked by various media the last few days for my comments, view of the current situation regarding my former boss Ron Paul, as he runs for the presidency on the Republican ticket.

I’ve noticed in some media that my words have been twisted and used for an agenda from both sides. And I wish to set the record straight with media that I trust and know will get the story right: conservative/libertarian-conservative bloggers.

Is Ron Paul a “racist.” In short, No. I worked for the man for 12 years, pretty consistently. I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth. Not once. And understand, I was his close personal assistant. It’s safe to say that I was with him on the campaign trail more than any other individual, whether it be traveling to Fairbanks, Alaska or Boston, Massachusetts in the presidential race, or across the congressional district to San Antonio or Corpus Christi, Texas.

He has frequently hired blacks for his office staff, starting as early as 1988 for the Libertarian campaign. He has also hired many Hispanics, including his current District staffer Dianna Gilbert-Kile.

s Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks. "

Ron Paul "I don't want white supremacists support"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund.

marty| 1.16.12 @ 12:10AM

I am a Jew and I agree with him and I plan to vote for him. You assume in your article that everybody agrees with you, but let me assure that more people agree with Dr. Paul than you. You are the one who is biased and bigoted. Why don't you take your own personal beliefs and your article and stick them where the sun don't shine. If you have nothing honest to say, try saying nothing. Go back to your bigoted neo con hole and wait the election out. Unless your afraid that you are wrong and want to make people believe your garbage

Chaim Goldman| 1.16.12 @ 1:11AM

Good for you & yes Jews need to speak out against false claims of antiSemitism before the word is made meaningless from inappropriate use. I do not intend to vote for Ron Paul but it is because I disagree with his policies & not because of some rumors & created controversies. I seldom visit here anymore as there seems to be an agenda here that has not changed in several months now.

Seek| 1.16.12 @ 1:39PM

David Duke for the last 15 years has been almost enturely obsessed with Jews and their influence. His views on blacks are pretty much on the back burner. Most of his critics either can't or won't recognize as much.

Richard Baker| 1.15.12 @ 5:54PM

sirbourbon:
Truman was not associated with the Klan in Missouri. I suggest you read David McCullough 's book "Truman" and you'll find that his best friend Eddie Jacobson, a WWI friend/soldier, was Jewish and that Truman went to a Klan rally to raise hell with them as they had been threatening him as he ran for a political office. In fact, it was Jacobson who said that whoever started the Klan was Jewish as only a Jew could sell a $1.98 sheet for $16. Try educating yourself, a little.

jfhdsiu| 1.15.12 @ 6:03PM

I am always amused when someone claims to know someone ELSE'S mind better than the someone else. But what can one expect from latent racist bigots who do not realize their latent racist bigotry. It's obvious to others though. I might add that if one demands that Ron Paul admit to being a racist bigot, then one ought to demand that, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eric Holder, Barry Soetoro, Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, etc. etc. admit to being racist bigots as well. 'Not' doing so is 'selective' racist bigotry, at it's ugliest! It seems, though, that demanding they admit THEIR bigotry is not conducive to the smear one wishes to perpetrate. That in itself is racistbigotry. I suppose anyone who prefers their own race over another can be called "racist" or "bigot" as well. Do people really know the definition of bigot?

Also the lengths that some people will go to, to attempt to establish a tenuous correlation between what someone else believes and what the object of their ire believes is outright laughable.

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 1.15.12 @ 8:33PM

You neocons will look for anything to try to slander Dr. Paul. The fact is that you people are not conservative and never have been. You are schills for international corporations, free trade, defense contractors and Israel and that just about sums up every neo-con. At best you are a bunch of Wilsonian liberal interventionists at worst you are corporate fascists who won't be happy until the U.S.A. has an INC. next to its name. It's ironic to me that you people claim to be the true patriots and defenders of the American way while waving flags made in China and supporting the unconstitutional," un"-Patriot Act's.

Ron Paul 2012

Margie| 1.15.12 @ 9:18PM

I can just hear your words being spoken in the voice of Edward G. Robinson for some reason.

Yeeeeah, ya see?? You neo-cons, ya seee?? Yeeeaahh.

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 1.16.12 @ 1:08AM

Edward G. Robinson is classic. Maybe I got a bit angry after reading Hillyer's piece, but its only because Ron Paul is a true American conservative something I cannot say for the other G.O.P. frontrunners. Maybe my conservatism is more along the lines of Paul and Buchanan and is considered outdated by the Spectator crowd, but if you look at the roots of American conservatism it has always been Constitutionalist and non-interventionist and in the case of Buchanan and others traditional conservatism has always been skeptical if not down right hostile to the notion of global free trade. The Republican party of today are a bunch of corporate cheerleaders who care nothing of the Constitution but they manage to capture the votes of the average American who identitfies as conservative by rallying around the flag, the military and abortion. Ron Paul has a consistant pro-life record that puts Romney and Gingrich to shame, but you don't hear that. What you hear is that he is dangerous and radical and why? It's because he is the true conservative who is a strict Constitutionalist, opposed to foreign military adventures and opposed to free trade agreements that sacrifice national soveriegnty (such as NAFTA) and he is opposed to all foreign aid and wants to abolish the Federal Reserve for a modern version of the Gold Standard. That is why he is dangerous to the mainstream G.O.P...They won't say it but they'd rather have Obama than Paul.

Chaim Goldman| 1.16.12 @ 1:14AM

"They won't say it but they'd rather have Obama than Paul." I have often wondered the same thing. This appears to be the agenda of many of the writers on this site as well.

aware| 1.16.12 @ 6:10AM

They consider ruling to be the exclusive domain of the Team and its members in the Blue and Red uniforms. The Red faction doesn't like the Blue faction but at least they know the Game itself isn't threatened by them.

McGee| 1.16.12 @ 12:15PM

Get on your time-machine and go back home to Moscow,

Occam's Tool| 1.16.12 @ 3:19AM

Duke is and was and will be a vicious racist. The fact you don't see this obvious truth is one of the reasons that your views are worthless, Red.

Incidentally, Jacobson was never invited over to the Truman's home for dinner because Truman's wife would not eat with a Jew.

It is Nixon who was the true supporter of the Jews, not Truman. Truman merely stood against the murderous idiocies of the traitors in the State Department and their stooge, Marshall.

aware| 1.16.12 @ 6:16AM

"vicious"? What is someone who advocates vaporizing millions of Persians? Physician heal thyself.

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 11:00AM

Occam, you want to indiscriminately nuke Muslims. Perhaps you shouldn't call other people vicious.

Duke was overtly racialist. He has now returned to being overtly racialist, although his current focus seems to be more on Jews. But at the time he was trying to distance himself from his past and run as a right-wing populists. The issue at the time was how sincere this conversion was. I could tell you that at the time I didn't buy it, but I doubt you would believe me. He started using the born again language of evangelicalism which I really didn't buy. But while I didn't buy the sincerity of his conversion and resented that he ran in the '92 Presidential primary stealing Buchanan's message and in a few states some of his voters, I certainly was not about to PC grandstand because I know that empowers the Cultural Marxist enemy and contributes to the double standard. Former Weathermen get to ghostwrite the President's book and no one seems to care, but Paul writes something explaining Duke's appeal and is apparently guilty of a thought crime. I will not be a party to that nonsense because I refuse to be Morris Dees' tool job. If only Hillyer et al had similar integrity.

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 12:25PM

I imagine Obama read and approved Dreams From My Father after it was written by some nameless editor at his publisher. Ron Paul, however, claims to know nothing whatsoever about his money-making newsletter -- not who wrote it nor what it said. I'd as easily believe Obama slept through twenty years of anti-American sermons by the notorious Rev Wright.

Nick| 1.16.12 @ 11:39PM

Mr. Phillips,

I don't seem to remember Duke of Hate trying to hide his racism. He just tried to repackage it into what he thought sounded more moderate.

Instead of emphasizing the negative, when confronted, he would talk about being for white culture and being proud to be white. He thought he was just acting like blacks and Hispanics, emphasizing his heritage.

Duke was too much of moron to realize that he still sounded like a racist. A slick racist, but, a racist nonetheless.

Richard Baker| 1.16.12 @ 7:58AM

Occam:
General Marshall was, as Churchill called him, the organizer of victory in WWII. Thank God we had him. However, aside from the Marshall Plan, the General was out of his league or something as Secretary of State. Maybe he should have stayed at Dodona Manor in Leesburg, VA when retired and not answered the phone.

McGee| 1.16.12 @ 12:21PM

As a libertarian, I agree with a lot of Ron Paul's domestic thinking.

The level of he US debt means some shrinkage of the defence forces (and whole public sector) is inevitable.

Possibly some foreign US bases in Europe could be closed.

But

RON PAUL IS NUTS!!!!

Dai Alanye | 1.16.12 @ 12:26PM

And a hypocrite. Let's not forget that.

Red Phillips | 1.16.12 @ 8:15PM

If you think "some shrinkage of the defense forces ... is inevitable"and "possibly some foreign US bases in Europe could be closed" then you aren't a libertarian. Non-interventionism is an integral part of libertarianism.

Also, name calling does not help your case. It makes you look like a child.

Janice G| 1.24.12 @ 6:06PM

I read your blog (not news/just someone's opinions/thoughts based on ???) and I find it SO hard to believe the HATE that spews out of folks such as yourself! Does ANYONE honestly think in their RIGHT mind that indeed IF Ron Paul had written those newsletters, that he would STILL be in Congress?? Clearly, those newsletters were written by someone who wanted to start trouble for Dr Paul! One thing about Dr Paul is he is a man who says what he means and means what he says!! Quit the HATE!!!!

Remander| 2.16.12 @ 10:50PM

Huh? As you can see from the first link? I see nothing with Paul's name on it. Again, misleading the public with wrong information.

ladymishel | 4.16.12 @ 12:47PM

Ron Paul will like this video http://youtu.be/trqgT0jhw08

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