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Reid and Ron: Part Next

However, if Mr. Lord is “unwilling or unable” to differentiate — strategically — between American response to Nazi genocide, Soviet Empire, and several thousand “freedom haters” scattered somewhere between Morocco and Malaysia, I’m not sure where to proceed with this conversation.

So writes Reid Smith here.

The problem with this is the tragedy of the things listed above didn’t spring full blown. If one goes back and reads the New York Times as late as 1933 one finds the “smart people” of the day dismissing Hitler and company as nothing more than exuberant thugs. The Nazi monolith began in a very real sense with the angry, anti-Semitic scribblings of an imprisoned young Austrian corporal in the 1920s. There were no Panzer divisions. No vivid reports of smoking ovens and burning Jews. To have suggested this could be a problem would be to invite precisely the scorn demonstrated by Ron Paul of the notion that an Iranian nuke is no big deal.

The Soviet Empire arguably began with a lone Russian Communist (Lenin) being smuggled solo back into a strife-torn Czarist empire in 1917. For that matter, the America we know today that Ron Paul calls an “empire” began with a handful of shivering Pilgrims or, if you prefer, a handful of Massachusetts farmers at Lexington and Concord.

The key to all of these problems is being able to do the difficult — apply human common sense to the facts on the ground. Closing one’s eyes to what can evolve is never ever a good idea — particularly in a day and age of missiles and high tech. This is where Reid Smith and I disagree.

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Michael Tomlinson| 1.5.12 @ 2:53AM

New Englanders (Pilgrims) didn't found this country or effectively win its independence (the Minutemen). Both effectively happened in the South.

Jack in Wi.| 1.5.12 @ 7:24AM

Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, That is what they yell anytime someone wants to elimate the lavish loot that is pumped out of the American Treasury to support the racist pimple on the rear end of the Dead Sea. There is no way we can ever have a sane and rational discussion about Middle East policy, with people like Lord pumping out such nonsense.

David W| 1.5.12 @ 8:40AM

JiW, When you spout "racist pimple" you mean what? Israel or the so-called Palestinian territories. The fact that Israel has accepted blacks from Ethiopia would exempt them from being racists. The fact that Jews, "Muslims", Arabs, Christians live together with one another without trying to kill each other off (unless you count the occasional suicide bomber from the misunderstander of Islam) also keeps them from being racist. Given the fact that any actions they take with regards to their neighbors is intended to prevent their neighbors from slitting the throat of a 6 month old girl and then dancing in the street to celebrate the murder would also exempt them from being racist.

So you must be talking about the Palestinian territories, where they teach their children that Jews are direct descendants of apes, pigs, dogs, whatever. Where they follow the words of a false prophet who basically gave people like you the choice of either converting to Islam, staying a Jew/Christian but becoming a second class citizen (though from your post it looks like you ain't much of a Christian anyway) or dying. Who condone slavery and other barbaric behavior (don't believe me, then pay attention).

I would agree that we are wasting money by giving it to a group that refuses to recognize the right of another to even exist, let alone be allowed to live in peace.

The "racist" crap people like you spout, just like apartheid, obviously is a projection on your part.

Jeffrey Lord| 1.5.12 @ 9:19AM

Jack ...

You're still here! Welcome!

So....whatever happened to that Ron Paul victory in Iowa that you and Clint insisted was a sure thing? Coming in third isn't quite number one? I'll be interested in the spin!

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:32AM

I Didn't Insist Anything , Smear Bund Boy.

I Reported Just What The Polls Were Sayin' & Never Said A Whit About A Sure Thing.

Dr.Ron Paul Made The PPP Poll & Des Moines Register Poll Numbers.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Smear Bund Boy.

Bob Grant| 1.5.12 @ 9:57AM

You come here every day posting your rants and insults. What's your point?

To persuade?

Do you think your incoherent rantings help uncle Ronnie's cause, concubine boy?

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:01AM

To Counterpunch The Smear Bund.

Yes.

Next Question.

You, Over There In The Corner .

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 10:14AM

I have a question: Why don't you do the right thing and step off the planet?

Follow-up: Can you provide me with a list of everyone whose face you want to stomp?

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 2:03PM

I Have A Question: Why Don't Ya Try To Make Me, Ass Clown ?

Follow Up: Can You Provide Me With A List Of Everyone Who Sat On Your Face?

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Gryzlicker.

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 2:33PM

In order to atone for your sins, you must voluntarily step off the planet. Otherwise, what's the point?

But You make a good point: I guess garbage doesn't take itself out, and feces doesn't flush itself down the toilet.

Where do you live? I'll drop by.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 7:52PM

Are You Pretending To Threaten Me, Cupcake ?
Or Just Talkin' Your Shuck & Jive Trash Talk, Nancy ?
Hmmmmm ?

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 2:53PM

"Ass clown." That's good. Very good. For a guy with an IQ of 36, I'd say that's witty. But for someone with your IQ, I'd say it's positively brilliant.

And no, I'm sorry to have to tell you that taking the IQ test while sitting on a booster seat won't raise it to 36, Clinty. You'll just have to get by with the three active synapses that god gave you. On the plus side, your IQ makes you an ideal Ron Paul supporter. And, when he's buried in the primaries, you can move on and get work as a support beam for a bridge somewhere. That seems suited to your skill set.

I'm still waiting for that list of people whose faces you plan to stomp on. Still compiling it, are you? Have you run out of crayons?

Oh, and by the way (and I hate to venture into the crude here) - in certain contexts, someone sitting on a guy's face is generally considered a good thing.

I choose not to share the details of my love life with you, if you don't mind, but perhaps if someone ever loved you, you wouldn't be the worthless cretin you are today.

I'm sure that the closest you ever get to a woman is whatever the distance limit on the restraining order is.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:02PM

Hey, If You're A Queer That's Your Business, Cupcake.

Just Don't Go Scarin' The Horses.

Bob Grant| 1.5.12 @ 10:35AM

Your cutting wit and writing style is more appropriate for The New Yorker....or perhaps Concubine Weekly.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:04AM

Do you ever wipe your ass?

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:05AM

The brown streak question referred to our proud 4-F and his dogboy.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:36PM

We Hear Tool Job Wipes Bibi's Ass.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Occam's Fool.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 2:07PM

Do You Like Being An Ass Wipe ?

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Industrial Strength Fool.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:08AM

Well, when you finish third, you ain't counterpunching to well, are you, dogboy?

(Previous readers will recall the touching tale of how Clint's dad met Clint's mom as she was chasing cars on all fours...)

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:08AM

Sorry, "too well." Damn, damn, damn....

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:40PM

That's Funny, We Heard Bibi Had Your Old Lady On All Fours With A Leash And Calls Her His Doggie Bitch.

The Tea Party Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Neo-Chickenhawk Coward, Occam's Fool.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:18PM

Dear Clint. In my wife's home town, there is a picture of the founder of the town. There is only side carved completely clearly. That's because the wife's ancestor cut off the founder's ear in a minor dispute. She has inherited her ancestor's temper, and skills.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:18PM

Sorry, not picture, Statue.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:09PM

The Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Israel Firster Smear Bund GirlieBoy,Tool Job Makes It A Habit Of Hidin' Behind Others' Skirts.

That's Just What You Israel Firster Cowards Try To Do When You Attempt To Use Our American Warriors As Cannon Fodder,To Fight Your Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Agenda

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 11:01PM

Do Your Homewok, Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Coward, Tool Job.

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:04AM

Stepping on people a lot with a third place finish, eh, twinkle-toes? Clint, your boy is going to get buried in the Polls like Rachel Corrie. He lost. He's gonna lose again in NH. He's gonna lose in Virginia. He's gonna lose in South Carolina. He's gonna lose in Bama.

Why? Because he supports treason. Bradley Manning's gonna do him in, son. And I'll be there to watch the dirt being tamped down.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:48PM

Mitt Romney Responds to Question about Bradley Manning / War Crimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtmGted3D0

And Shirley, Don't Call Me Son.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Maniac Israel Firster Smear Bund Neo-Chickenhawk Coward, Occam's Fool.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:19PM

Alright, gunsel, I'll call you piss bucket boy, instead.

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 3:58PM

That's an insult to piss buckets everywhere.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:28PM

Gryzkicker Drinks That Stuff.

That's Why He Has Yellow Teeth.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:26PM

That's Funny, That's What Your Old Lady Told Us She Calls You, Among Other Things, Such As " Liberpoochie" And "The Barney".

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:43PM

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:01AM

Dear Jeff: remember: Third rhymes with turd.

I know it's rude, childish, and obnoxious, but as a Jewish guy and a Zionist and a YAFer going back to 1980, I just can't help myself....

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:51PM

Aaaand, Tool Rhymes With Fool.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Jonathan Pollard Wannabe.

Jack in Wi.| 1.5.12 @ 11:32AM

Ron Paul is still going to end up with the most delegates from Iowa Lord. Aid to Israel and the wars are still being discussed, as never before, and the young people in this country are disgusted with both. Ron Paul has already won. No prowar Republican can ever get elected in this country again. First you pushed Bachman , then Perry, then Cain, then Gingrich, now you have reached the bottom of the barrel with Santorum. It has always been between the only 2 guys who have had a chance of beating Obama Ron Paul and Willard Romney. They will go to the convention with the most delegates and there will have to be an accomedation or the party will permanently fracture.

Mull this accomidation over in your fevered brain. Romney promises to cut all foreign aid, end the wars, and audit the Fed. He then takes Rand Paul as his vice President. That is the only way that Romney has a chance of uniting the party and beating Obama. Romney isn't running to be the butt boy of the neocons like Bush was. He is perfectly able to stab you neocons in the back, and you all know it. He does not want his precious sons fighting in wars all over the world. Nor should he, no father should. They will get my draft age sons over my dead body.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:19PM

He finished 3rd. he's not gonna end up with squat from Iowa, Jack--they will go to the obvious winner, as they did for McCain.

Quartermaster| 1.5.12 @ 8:18PM

Ah, yes! Lord now joins in adding to the flow of sewage. Ronnie Raygun would be so proud of you boy!

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 10:11AM

Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. That's what they called the Third Reich, whose Fuhrer just wanted to bring a final solution to the Jewish problem.

Sheesh! I mean, do YOU want vermin living in your home, scurrying about in filth and controlling your bank account?

All the Palestinians are asking for is more lebensraum, and some people get bent out of shape.

Hey, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, am I right?

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 3:40AM

Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor Michael Scheuer, Former CIA Chief of The bin Laden Unit,

" On Iran,The President should:

1.) Explain to the American people that Iran is no threat to the United States unless we or Israel attack it first, and then it would be a serious threat to U.S. access to energy and would likely stage terrorist operations in the continental United States. [The last thanks to 30-years of federal immigration policies that leave us without knowledge of who is in the country or what they are capable of doing.]

2.) Publicly state that there will be no U.S. surprise attack on Iran, and no U.S. attack at all on Iran unless the president asks for a formal declaration of war and the Congress votes its approval in a constitutional manner.

3.) Call in Israel's ambassador to the United States and tell him that we understand that Israel believes Iran is a threat to its survival, and that we agree that Israel has every right to defend itself. If Israel believes it must go to war with Iran, then so be it. But also tell the ambassador that if Israel attacks Iran, the U.S. administration will declare U.S. neutrality in the war and immediately cut off military and financial support to all combatants in the war.

4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firsters, Who Want American Warriors To Be Used As Cannon Fodder And American Treasure Pissed Away To Police The Middle East For Their Israel Firster Agenda.

spike59| 1.5.12 @ 6:51AM

you dolt, a nuclear armed Iran is a threat not just to Israel, but to the entire Middle East; virtually the entire region views the prospect with alarm

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:57AM

Then, Explain:

A Nuclear Armed Pakistan
A Nuclear Armed North Korea
A Nuclear Armed Red China
A Nuclear Russia.
A Nuclear Armed Israel.

Why Aren't We Attacking Them ?

Hmmmmmm ?

Scared To Attack Russia Nuke Sites ?

Scared To Attack Red China Nuke Sites ?

Scared To Attack Pakistan Nuke Sites ?

Scared To Attack North Korea Nuke Sites ?

Scared To Attack Israel Nuke Sites ?

France,United Kingdom, India ?

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:11AM

Except for North Korea, whose missiles can't reach the Middle East, none of those countries is ruled by a madman.

But, since Ronnie POO finished third (rhymes with turd), who cares what crap his followers spray?

The only reason I torment you, Clint, is to try to give you an exploding aneurysm...

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 12:21PM

"The only reason I torment you, Clint, is to try to give you an exploding aneurysm..."

OT, we must be related. :-)

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 1:36PM

Nice try, Occam, but I assume you're talking about a brain aneurysm. And what is required for a brain aneurysm to occur?

A brain.

So you might be out of luck with ol' Clinty-the-homicidal-whack-job.

I kid. I realize chickens have brains, and even rodents. So there's probably some limbic function going on in Clint - aside, of course, from an uncontrollable impulse to stomp on people's faces.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:22PM

Mr. G,

I humbly stand corrected. :-(. You are right, of course.

Resist, you are too irresistable to be my sister, who is a Libtard. But otherwise, I am incredibly honored. What a lovely thought!

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:38PM

You Got Exploding Diarrhea Of The Mouth, Israel Firster Smear Bund Broad.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps Cautiously Past Smear Bund Broad's Mess.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 12:20PM

thE rUpAuL freaK shoW rebellioN moveS tO thE easT coasT tO geT humiliateD iN neW hampshirE anD soutH carolinA.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:42PM

Apparently, Smear Bund Broad Has Had A Transient Ischemic Attack.

This Is What Happens When The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On You.

Jeffrey Lord| 1.5.12 @ 9:20AM

Clint....

I Ron Paul was winning Iowa? That's what you insisted. Hmmmmm...wha' happened?????

Number 3? Uh-oh....

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:35AM

Asked And Answered Smear Bund Boy.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On American Spectator's Negative Attention Craving For Audience, Smear Bund Boy

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:11AM

Yup. Asked and answered. Third=turd.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:34PM

Yup, Ass Turd= Occam's Fool.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:22PM

No, RonniePOO Paul. He finished Third.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:35PM

Top Tier & We Made Our Numbers Just As The Polls Predicted, Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Smear Bund Asshat , Occam's Fool.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Smear Bund Asshat, Occam's Fool.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:40PM

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 1:30PM

Yeah, I seem to remember that Clint's "Tea Party Rebellion" was in Iowa, stomping on everbody's face.

Wasn't that Clint's promise, uttered, oh, about 15,000,000 times? Anybody else remember that?

Not so much, eh Clinty boy? Never mind, huh?

Well, that's the first rule of being a totalitarian: Rewrite history, as Clint is attempting to do.

Too bad Clint can't airbrush out all those aggravated assaults on his rap sheet as easily as he lies about his prognostications.

So where is the Tea Party rebellion going to stomp on people's faces next, Clint? Say whatever you want - you can always lie about it when events prove you wrong.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 5:01AM

The New Hampshire Gazette

The Chickenhawk Hall Of Shame.

name:
Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich
rank:
Chickenhawk First Class with Distinguished Fleeing Cross
date-of-birth:
June 17, 1943
home state:
Georgia
missed opportunity:
Vietnam War
preferred activity:
Attending grad school
occupation:
Congressman

A virtuoso in the art of hypocrisy, the former Speaker of the House now claims the Vietnam War was a splendid idea, but at the time he opposed going himself. Newtie also speaks highly of morality, but as a serial adulterer he doesn't want to get too close."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

spike59| 1.5.12 @ 6:52AM

if Tinfoil hat wearing Ronpaul is the face of the Tea Party, then we might as well write its obituary now

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:38AM

That's What The Mainstream Media Smear Bund Said About Us Tea Party Patriots Before The 2010 Elections Too.

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:12AM

The Ron Paul campaign heads to the East Coast. There to die a painful, humiliating death....while I giggle like Richard Widmark....

tonypal| 1.5.12 @ 11:43AM

What I find most incredible about the Paulbots is there refusal to make an attempt at convincing people that their guy is the best candidate. It's either cut and paste (Clint) or name calling (all of them).

I hate to break the news to our Paulbot friends. There isn't enough of you to win the nomination, let alone the general election. I for one will not vote for Paul if he is the nominee, the same way Paulbots will not vote for any non-Paul nominee. Unless of course they can convince me otherwise. Cut and paste arguments and name calling will not work. When they start making intellectual arguments - cut and paste is not an intellectual argument, it's intellectual laziness - then I and others will stop calling Paul supporters Paulbots and take them seriously. Until then, it's all Paulbot all the time.

9thID| 1.5.12 @ 12:09PM

Who would have ever thought that the GOP could field someone even more dangerous than Obummer?! Witness Liberal-tarian Ron Paul. Even Obummer was sane enough to keep much of Bush's national security policy once in office. Sanity will not return to A.S. until Ron Paul is completely out of the race...

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:37PM

Do Your Homework Pseudo-Intellect Israel Firster Bloviator.

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:27PM

You Giggle Like Babs Streisand, Tool Job, But Ya Look More Like Golda Meir.

Maybe It's Your Dress.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:33PM

Hey, boy, your guy stomped on no faces and finished a turdy third.It's gonna get worse. By the way, I PREDICTED third. In Virginia I predict 2nd place finish for him. In South Carolina, he will finish 3rd or fourth. In NH, he's already toast. In Texas, 3rd.

Paul, as Boz Scaggs would put it, is gonna get a "dirty lowdown." His campaign has been killed in Iowa, it's just twitching around now without a brain, like you do every day, boy Clint.

Who could have guessed that Pawlenty had no fire in his belly? If he had lasted to the Caucus, he would have beat Paul, too, just like I predicted.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:35PM

Hey Israel Firster Ass Clown, Do Your Homework.

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Eman | 1.5.12 @ 5:23AM

Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about this and I benefit from learning about this subject. If possible, as you gain facts, please add to this blog with more information. I have found it enormously useful.

Tenn Slim| 1.5.12 @ 7:30AM

Iran has the ability and desire to become the Mid East regime of power. A nuclear capability, plus a missle capability, which now is active, less the Nuclear option, insures the success of the Iranian drive.
We DONT LIVE IN THE MID EAST. But we do use the oil from there. A Ron Paul FP idea set is really not much different than Obamas. Basically hide your head in the sand.
Santorum meanwhile, has the guts to stand for basic morals, basic values and apparently a somewhat more coherent FP.
The Nation will NOT survive as a Republic if we allow the Leftist and the RHINOS to push us over the abyss in the next four years.
Semper FI

Warrior | 1.5.12 @ 2:32PM

What? We could be energy independent within five years by just defunding the DOE and EPA. We don't need the middle east for anything. Ron Paul's foreign policy is completely the opposite of our current White House resident.

What exactly is Santorum's foreign policy? Threaten Syria, plan on attacking Iran, continue to assist the Al queda in Libya and the Brotherhood in Egypt? In other words, a continuation of the Bush policies which Obama took even further to the left. Who are you or the Republican party to decide what the basic moral values of another county should be? Who are you to even state what basic moral values should be for another American? The arrogance of the public school educated American is offensive across a wide spectrum.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:41PM

Dear Warrior:

I goyt a problem with raping 9 year olds. If you don't, fine, but state that clearly.

Warrior | 1.5.12 @ 4:32PM

You need to check your meds. Your response is no better that what can be expected from a liberal or as you call them, paulbots or tards. Mr. Alynski, keep attacking the person, it's all you have when you lack any substance.

Ken (Old Texican)| 1.5.12 @ 8:00AM

Tenn,
WEB Griffin used fiction to describe both world wars as "a failure of imagination".

I have exercised my imagination in my fiction.
www.americaalonesaidno.com

Bob Grant| 1.5.12 @ 10:23AM

Ken,

The title could also be used to describe the reaction to your book.

Paul Sales| 1.5.12 @ 9:10AM

http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....es/2061786

Have you got your Ron Paul action figure or maybe his gunsel sidekick Clint? They are anatomically correct. Don't delay, do it today. Pull the string on Clint and get each of his five robo-posts in that familiar high pitched whine. Buy both and you get a free Jack in Wi. figure. Pull Jack's screen and you will get one of his 500 ethnic slurs. There are limited numbers so don't hesitate. Remember that Paul-bots are sicker than they seem.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:18AM

Paul Sales: you are awesome...I love the use of the term "gunsel"....describes Clint precisely in all his roles for Ronpoo...

Grzmlyk| 1.5.12 @ 2:01PM

I, too, love the word, "gunsel." Reminds me of The Maltese Falcon; the character of Wilmer, played by Elisha Cook, Jr., is referred to by Bogie as a "gunsel."

Which brings to mind a great line from that movie, delivered by Bogie to the gunsel; it most definitely applies to Clint:

"The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter."

The dumber the Paul-bot, the uglier the patter.

9thID| 1.5.12 @ 12:12PM

Do they have the Ron Paul Stormfront and David Duke action figures out yet? Clint can't wait and wants the limited/signed editions...

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:42AM

Apparently, The Tea Party And Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul Got The Smear Bund Boys All Atwitter And Shook Up.

The Tea Party Rebellion Moves To The East Coast.

Bob Grant| 1.5.12 @ 10:53AM

"..The Tea Party Rebellion Moves To The East Coast..." Like a herpes outbreak!

Con Chef (NB) | 1.5.12 @ 10:57AM

Clint's Pee Party of One will flame out worse on the east coast than it did in Iowa.

9thID| 1.5.12 @ 12:15PM

I know how badly the Paulestinians will do in SC, etc., but what do you think about how Pauly might do in the Liberal state of NH?

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:20AM

Michele's out...who's your "co" boy?

We're not atwitter, except in the sense that pushing an old man's campaign down a flight of stairs to its death makes us giggle hysterically....I love Richard Widmark's work. Great actor,even if he was a Leftist idiot...

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 12:18PM

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C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 10:04AM

Jeffrey Lord helped lie his country into invading Iraq to the tune of $1 trillion and counting, not including medical bennies for veterans which made the region safe for Iranian dominance, and he wants to be taken seriously on foreign policy issues?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.5.12 @ 10:56AM

Yeah. Idiots who think Islam poses no threat to us are CERTAINLY the people to lecture us on national security.

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 11:41AM

Islam is a threat--that is why the United States shouldn't have let Islamics in through the frontdoor, armed them in Afghanistan, worked with Osama and the KLA against Orthodox Christian Serbs, toppled secular states like Iraq, Egypt, and Libya and installed Islamic states; aid and support Islamic Chechnyans (a neocon project) against Russia.

Only a Congressional investigation could uncover the real reason for why folks like Jeff Lord are promoting such ridiculous policy.

tonypal| 1.5.12 @ 11:45AM

I'm sure Ron Paul will get to the bottom of this, right? Incidentally, it's Islamists. Small point, but try to get it right. It makes you look even dumber.

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 12:31PM

Tonypal--friend to Islamists--always willing to use American lives and treasure to create new Islamist states.

Got it.

tonypal| 1.5.12 @ 4:56PM

So let me get this straight genius. Pointing out the fact that your too stupid to spell something as simple as Islamist makes me a friend to the Islamists? Got it.

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 6:06PM

No, tony.

Pointing out that you, and Lord, and Occam, support a foreign policy that has been a great boon to the expansion of Islamist states (let alone to the power of Russia and China), makes you a friend to Islamists.

You are either not that bright, or just lying about your real agenda.

Lets be clear:

Did you favor a debt financed invasion of Iraq with an army that featured girls, knowing that Iraq after the fall would become an Islamic state?

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:22PM

Yeah, Israel Firster Smear Bund Girls ,Who Attempt To Use American Warriors As Cannon Fodder For Israel's Agenda And Piss Away The American Treasure Are Certainly The Traitor Bastards To Lecture Us On National Security.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps OnThe Israel Firster Smear Bund Girl.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 11:20AM

Mr. Bowen: third rhymes with turd, gunsel.

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 11:42AM

Occam is another Lordite who favors having Paul supporters killed and favors a nuclear holocaust in the Middle East to deal with the Arab problem.

Jeff Lord does not consider him extreme.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:36PM

I don't favor having Paul supporters killed. I'm not the one "face stomping." And the Persians are not Arabs, Mr. Bowen. If they installed a decent government that didn't want to exterminate their neighbors I'd be happy to leave them alone. (Same for the Arabs)

But if you're going to shoot, shoot. Don't just talk about it. No Nation building. You want our enemies eliminated with the least cost to us, and with the fewest casualties to us, yes or no?

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 4:52PM

Occam--

Do you want me to link to the post where you said Ron Paul supporters should be shot? Or just cut n paste? Are you losing your memory already?

Or are you backtracking out of shame?

Do you want me to link to the post where you called for making the Middle East a sea of glass?

Because I save those links.

If you were any kind of Rightwinger, you know that the Other can never, and should never, be eliminated (let alone in the Bolshevik method).

I'd settle for just not inviting them into my country.

You just want the Bolshevik solution.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:15PM

Tool Rhymes With Fool, Fool.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster Smear Bund Coward, Occam's Fool.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 1:42PM

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Clint| 1.5.12 @ 8:59PM

Uh Oh !
Smear Bund Broad Has Had Another Transient Ischemic Attack.

Soon, The Nurse's Aide Will Be Feedin' You Gruel At The Nursing Home.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:22PM

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Paul McGrath| 1.5.12 @ 11:24AM

At some point Ron Paul will become the loony old man on the city street corner, yelling about things and gesticulating wildly. Passersby will ignore him or perhaps throw a penny in his cup.

Clint will be on the next street corner, urinating in his pants, and cursing at people for ignoring him.

Bob Grant| 1.5.12 @ 11:49AM

I imagine Clint on the next street corner performing more sordid, perverted acts.

One thing's for sure, Clint will never stray too far from Uncle Ronnie.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:10PM

We Imagine Grant Won't Stray From His RINO-CINO Doggie Leash.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The RINO-CINO Doggie.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 1:42PM

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Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:01PM

See That.

Smear Bund Broad Has Had Another Transient Ischemic Attack.

Soon, The Nurse's Aide Will Be Feedin' You Gruel At The Nursing Home.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:37PM

Third place ain't too much stompin', Cwint.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:04PM

We Made Our Polling Numbers And Delegates.

You're The RINO-CINO Israel Firster ,Who Said You'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Poster Boy, Mittens Romney.

Conservatives Have Your Number RINO-CINO Israel Firster, Occam's Fool.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:21PM

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:03PM

We Hear They Don't Call Ya Shit Pants McGrath For Nothin'.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Literal Smear Bund Shit.

Paul McGrath| 1.5.12 @ 5:14PM

"Shit Pants McGrath." Clint, I must confess, you made me laugh.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:06PM

Thank You.

You're My New Best Friend For A Minute.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 12:14PM

" If she thinks we live in a dangerous world, she ought to think back when I was drafted in the 1962 with nuclear missiles in Cuba. And Kennedy calls Khrushchev and talks to them, and talks them out of this so we don’t have a nuclear exchange."

- Ron Paul, Sioux City Republican Presidential Debate

Hmmmm....the Cuban Missile Crisis was in 1962 and Paul Pot said during the debate in Iowa that he had been drafted in 1962, but his campaign website says that he served in the USAF between 1963 and 1965 then the United States Air National Guard between 1965 and 1968.

I guess he was a draftee sitting on an imaginary ship in 1962 when Kennedy made that imaginary phone call to Khrushchev to talk him back from the precipice.

Except....a Presidential panel studying the military manpower issue reported in 1970, “The Navy and Marine Corps have occasionally issued draft calls to meet temporary shortfalls, but the Air Force has never used the draft.”

KKKlinty, don't you hate when that happens?

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 1:06PM

Duuuuuuhhh !

Dr.Ron Paul Did His Residency Under An Air Force Program.

You Israel Firster Smear Bund Clowns Are Scared Of The Tea Party And Our Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 1:40PM

But, he was NOT drafted.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 1:43PM

And, the Cuban Missile Crisis happened in 1962 and he did not join the Air Force until 1963.

Oops!

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Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:11PM

Transient Ischemic Attack.

Somebody Call The Israel Firster Smear Bund Broad An Ambulance.

Clint," You're An Ambulance, Smear Bund Broad."

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 9:50PM

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Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:19PM

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:40PM

Yes, he did. Funny, I thought he was an OB/Gyn. Doing his residency from Duke Medical School in an AirForce OB/GYn program? I mean, there are Air Force wives, but it couldn't have been that busy... (I did my psych program in Los Angeles. In a County hospital/VA program. I was BUSY.)

Occam's Tool| 1.5.12 @ 3:40PM

Not any more. He finished third.

tonypal| 1.5.12 @ 5:03PM

Why are you bothering to argue with the Paulbots? It should be pretty clear by now that Clint and C Bowen are still living in their parent's basements with their pants perpetually down around their ankles. They spend half their day here at TAS and the other half looking at photoshopped pictures of Ron Paul in a speedo.

My suggestion is ignore them. They're useless. They are intellectually incapable of engaging anyone in a rational discussion. As we both know, Ron Paul has many good ideas when it comes to domestic policy. However, his foreign policy is nightmarish.

I would love to debate the ins and outs of Ron Pauls foreign policy with someone here, but unfortunately we have a bunch of children who think calling someone an Israel-Firster passes for clever. So once again, save yourself some time and ignore these clowns. They probably won't go away because losers of their magnitude never know when to quit. So just ignore.

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 6:02PM

Tonypal--

You were the one who was duped in supporting a pro-Islamist position, right?

You favored invading Iraq right?

Or were you just that scared of Saddam?

C Bowen | 1.5.12 @ 7:51PM

PS- tonypal

AmSpec is the worst comment board section I have come across and to the extent it has use, is to heckle. I would be happy, as I offered others, to have a decent conversation via e-mail, another web site (click my name) or disqus if you have a handle there.

You can find my disqus at rightwing sites like altright or takimag--I can offer my handle if interested, eve3n come on over and offer some dissent; occasionally I post at AmConMag (that would American Conservative Magazine) under present handle.

If you don't show, or offer an e-mail to commence a discussion, I'll learn all I need to know about you and confirm my feedback loop about the pro-war any war types.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:00PM

You Pseudo-Intellect Israel Firster Faux Conservatives Oughta Try Reading George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address & The Old Right And Learn Something.

" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"

William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Heading for The East Coast.

Clint| 1.5.12 @ 9:39PM

We Made Our Polling Numbers And Delegates.

You're The RINO-CINO Israel Firster ,Who Said You'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Poster Boy, Mittens Romney.

Conservatives Have Your Number RINO-CINO Israel Firster, Occam's Fool.

Resist We Much! | 1.5.12 @ 9:50PM

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Clint| 1.5.12 @ 10:18PM

Do Your Homework, Israel Firster Smear Bund Broad.

"An interesting article at Business Insider notes that Paul may have actually won Iowa after the caucuses were over:

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To The East Coast.

joanindixie| 1.6.12 @ 7:19AM

Get a room already...you both sound like children. Move on to something that interests your readers.

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