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The Spectacle Blog
On December 15th, Jeff Lord predicted that Ron Paul would have to “seriously answer” for his newsletters as he ascended in the polls in Iowa. As Jeff points out these questions were raised in January 2008 in Reason by David Weigel and Julian Sanchez. I would add that their reporting built on the groundwork laid by James Kirchick in The New Republic earlier that month.
Six days later, Paul failed to formulate anything resembling a serious answer in an interview with Gloria Borger of CNN and ran away with his tail between his legs when the questions got too tough. This a tactic Paul simply cannot deploy in the White House.
Now, of course, it may very well be the case that Paul didn’t write the actual content of his newsletters but it’s hard to imagine he was unaware of it especially considering it was being released under his name. And it isn’t like this was a one time incident. The incendiary language kept popping up again and again. Thus a reasonable person could conclude that the views expressed in the Ron Paul Newsletter are the views of Ron Paul.
But let’s say that Ron Paul was, in fact, completely unaware of the content of his newsletters. In that case, it demonstrates a lack of judgment, responsiblity and due diligence on his part. Such shortcomings neither inspire confidence nor are they the makings of an honesty and trustworthy President.
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Jeff| 12.23.11 @ 1:00AM
Ron Paul’s SuperPac Chairman Is Listed As Co-Founder Of Hate Group link--> http://ow.ly/88w6v
Jay| 12.23.11 @ 1:15AM
When is the Southern Poverty Law Center going to list the American Spectator as a hate group?
Further, when did American Spectator readers start crediting Southern Poverty Law Center with objectivity and accuracy?
Jack in Wi.| 12.23.11 @ 6:53AM
End the terror. End the hate. Integrate the Israeli state. Equal right for all Muslim, Jew, and Christian. The Holyland belongs to the whole world not just to a few nasty squabling Jewish sects. Mr Goldstein, The New Republic and CNN defend the most racist entity on the face of the earth, where half the population is treated like scum, because they are Muslims or Christians. It is time they answered for shilling for this disgraceful filth of a country.
For this weekend I now declare a Christmas truce, in honor of the Prince of Peace. Merry Christmas to the Christians. Shalom and L' Chaim to the Jews. Salem Alakum and brotherhood to the Muslims.
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 8:54AM
"End the terror. End the hate."
I have to completely agree! If we could only get the Palestinians to stop strapping bombs onto their children with the mission to kill as many Israelis as possible, and to get them to stop firing rockets into Israel aimed at schools and day-care centers, peace negotiations could continue, and the Palestinians could have their own country.
Jews, Arabs, and Christians are live and work side by side in Israel, all are full citizens, with voting rights, and the ability to hold office. Why can't this be the model for the rest of the Middle East? Full rights for everyone, women, Christians, Muslims, and Jews, all across the vast Middle East, from the Mediterranean, to the Persian Gulf.
I say, if you are truly for peace on Earth, let's join together, and stand with Israel, and uphold their model of people of all faiths living together with full rights, and work to spread this across the rest of the Middle East.
Shalom.
Mike| 12.23.11 @ 5:14PM
Lebanon used to be a majority Christian, and it wasn't Jews who changed that. Why do you support the killing of Christians and Jews, but not Muslim.
Ron Paul is running for president of all Americans, not just Muslims. If he wants to be president, he needs to come out and state that Christians and Jews are equal to Muslims. Until he does that with no dodging, he should be ignored.
The evidence is building up that Paul is a rabid anti-Christian.
Anthony M| 12.23.11 @ 6:47PM
Excellent point on Lebanon, but let's not make the tragic mistake of the left and name call candidates out of contention. Does anyone really think that kindly, old Dr. Paul is a racist, anti-semite? Come on, stop the hyperbole. It's true Paul wants to reduce our defense budget and end foreign aid, but let's argue on the issues, not resort to the childish name-calling of the left.
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 9:25PM
I don't know if the kindly doctor is racist, or an anti-Semite, but there is definitely a segment of his vocal supporters who are.
What does it say about Ron Paul that his most ardent supporters here are so vehemently anti-Israel, and some, like Jack, are vicious anti-Semites. Why do they blame Israel for everything evil in the world?
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:18PM
The Israeli state is integrated. Where are the churches in Saudi Arabia, proud 4-F? hy do you support the murder of Christians in Pakistan?
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 11:50AM
Actually, the Clinton administration had AmSpec investigated and almost destroyed it.
Jay| 12.23.11 @ 1:20AM
Jeff Lord I expect. Hating Ron Paul at 1:00 AM.
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 9:22AM
Why can't these benighted fools recognize that Ron Paul is our Lord and Savior, arisen after 2,000 years to save us all from sin right before the apocalypse?
Have they not SEEN him walk on water? Have they not SEEN him turn water into wine? What more do they need?
ALL HAIL RON PAUL, OUR LORD AND MASTER!
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:18PM
Mr. G: Inshallaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 1:53PM
Warning !
Israel Firsters Do Not, I Repeat Do Not Watch This Short Video.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304
Mike| 12.23.11 @ 5:18PM
Anti-Christians like you make me sick.
I just read that Ron Paul told his campaign staff that anyone wishing someone "Merry Christmas" would be fired from the campaign.
The truth about Ron Paul is coming out.
Olga| 12.23.11 @ 10:54PM
Which is of course why this ad, featuring his son Rand wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, is being run on TV tomorrow and on Christmas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....N4FI-tWZj0
Gullible idiots such as Mike make ME sick.
Clint| 12.24.11 @ 12:42AM
That's A Lie.
You're A Liar, Little Micky.
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Little micky.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 11:50AM
Precisely. Oh my Gosh, precisely!
However, Ron Paul is the savior. Of Obama.
Quartermaster| 12.25.11 @ 9:08PM
Alas, the rest of the lot, along with your lot, probably are too.
Dai Alanye | 12.23.11 @ 3:07PM
When will the American Spectator come to realize that avoidance and denial ARE answers? Disreputable answers but answers none the less.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 4:27PM
Ask RINO-CINO's Mittens & Mr.Neutered The Flip Flop Artists,Sport.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 2:28AM
THE LEAGUE OF THE SOUTH IS NOT A HATE GROUP you PC shill. You are repeating the lies of the SPLC, a group of professional (and well paid I might add) Cultural Marxist PC thought policers whose soul purpose is to smear any conservative who ventures one millimeter to the right of mainstream . No real conservative would ever cite them.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 7:46AM
Asked & Answered In The 2008 Election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CYNV0U_kg
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 12:52PM
Ah yes, the ol' DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK syndome. 'Asked and answered', so shut up and move on you ISRAEL FISTERS, RINOS, CINOS as&wipes;......don't you understand it's CLITMAS COPY&PASTE; GOODWILL TOWARDS MEN [except Isreal Firsters, RINOS, CINOS etc of course] TIME???????????????
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 2:43PM
Gee Dog Farte,You RINO-CINO's Are All PMS'Y Because.......
Ron Paul-- Is Winning In Iowa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaSLxCwb0eY
The tea Party Rebellion Steps On The RINO-CINO Apologists.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 11:55AM
Ron Paul may win Iowa. He will come to the convention expecting a prominent role. One of two things will happen.
1. He and his supporters will be rejected, and they will sit out the election.
2. He will be accepted, his supporters will write a good part of the platfrom and all of the moderates will be scared away.
And Obama will be re-elected, and the Democrats will make gains in the house and Senate.
And America becomes Europe. God help us!
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:05PM
Naw, I don't give a Clitcrement if Paul wins in Iowa, and I'll actually gladly vote for him if he receives the REPUBLICAN nomination [as long as he flushes his Clitcrement/Paulista-lemming supporters appropriately down the political toilet subsequently]. Unlike some, I am not so lacking in sufficient brain matter as to not enthusiastically vote for whatever candidate wins the Republican nomination so as to guarantee this country's survival from destruction by means of another four years of the current socialistic group of community organizers who have captured and are controlling the government [from say a asinine/ludicrous third party candidacy which will surely garantee same]!!!!
Jay| 12.23.11 @ 1:11AM
Kirchick favors these endless wars and condones Palestinian Arabs being called "animals." Its very easy to see why non-interventionist Paul evokes such hate from Kirchick.
"...Jamie Kirchick, whose article in the New Republic gave birth to the newsletter 'scandal.' Kirchick is a militant interventionist who today works for the extremist Foundation for the Defense of Democracies...
"Kirchick’s fake outrage at Paul’s alleged 'racism' seems odd for someone who faithfully echoed the same bigoted belligerence that led TNR publisher Peretz to compare Palestinians to animals. We never heard a peep from Jamie about that, but then again Peretz was his meal ticket."
Link: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.....eretz.html
Link: http://original.antiwar.com/ju.....-overcome/
victor| 12.23.11 @ 2:17AM
Jay:
"condones Palestinian Arabs being called "animals."
Tell me who else straps explosives to their chest and blows up men, women and babies to Kingdom Come.
It ain't the Jews baby.
It's the object of your affections.
That's why we call you guys:
"Paulistinians".
And it ain't "hate" to point out anti-semitism and those who practice, condone and otherwise excuse it.
Verstehe?
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 7:50AM
Victor Is One Of American Spectator's Resident Anti-Catholic Religious Bigots And American Spectator's Resident Joisey White Trash Bigot, Margie's Old Man.
This Is The Big Yellow Bus Callin' A Canary,Yellow.
You're A S;andering Liar,Crippled Russkie Bigot,Victor.
Wanna Make Somethin' Of It Punk Ass ?
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa,
victor| 12.23.11 @ 10:18AM
Clint al-Qudwa al-Husseini:
"Wanna Make Somethin' Of It Punk Ass ?"
Yeah, answer the question:
Why do you support the so-called palestinians and their terrorism against the Jews, eh?
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 11:06AM
Simple, he's a wannabe brown-shirt, and like the originals, he has to blame all of his own short-comings on someone, so why not the JOOOOS!
Besides, as a kid he probably tried to bully some "Jew-boy", and got his ass kicked.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 11:23AM
That's A Lie.
You're A Liar, Chuckie.
Ya Wanna Try To Kick My Ass, Bibi Bone Fetcher,Chuckie ?
Hmmmmm Cupcake ?
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Chuckie's Face.
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 12:27PM
Still threatening to stomp-faces, brown-shirt wannabe?
You do your Messiah proud!
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 12:32PM
Still Lyin' Chuckie " Big Lie " Goebbels Wannabe ?
Do Your Bibi Proud !
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Chuckie's Face.
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:21PM
Funny enough, Clint, Con Chef gave you his address in the Pittsburgh area, and you couldn't show up to "kick the ass" of a guy who's had major abdominal surgery.
You are a moral and physical coward, unworthy of your dad. You are welcome to come up to Minnesota to try and kick my ass.
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 9:27PM
I'm sorry Clint, I was wrong. It wasn't a Jew-boy that kicked your ass, it was a Jew-girl!
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 11:20AM
Do Your Homework American Spectator Resident Anti-Catholic Religious Bigot And American Spectator's Resident Joisey White Trash Bigot, Margie's Old Man.
Dr.Ron Paul,
" While President Obama’s demand that Israel
make hard concessions in her border conflicts may very well be in her
long-term interest, only Israel can make that determination on her own,
without pressure from the United States or coercion by the United
Nations.
“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington.
“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.
“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On American Spectator's Resident Anti-Catholic Religious Bigot And American Spectator's Resident Joisey White Trash Bigot, Margie's Old Man's Face.
David| 12.23.11 @ 1:10PM
Careful Clint, don't confuse the neoconservative attack dogs with facts -- like their progressive counterparts they can't process facts which are thrown into their ad hominem attacks and Alinsky style destruction of their perceived enemies.
Again, similar to their progressive brethren they somehow equate patriotism to agreeing with everything the government does and not with respect for the individual liberty that once made this a great country.
Our "two party" system has devolved into the two wings of the same bird -- Republican right wing, Democrat left wing -- which is trying to become the new national bird -- the vulture.
As long as the leaders have a "(R)" after their name anything the government does is gold and to be backed by all neoconservatives -- if the leaders have a "(D)" after their name the progressives consider that gold and all are expected to support the governing elite's agenda.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:00PM
OK, facts. Paul said recently he wants the US to be friends with ALL countries. If this were 1940, he would have us cozy up to Nazi Germany nad ignore what was going on in Poland; after all Poland no longer was a country. He would have us shipping arms to he Nazis and Japanese.
And one day, we would be on the receiving end of those arms, but it would be too late by then.
This has nothing to do with the constitution. Bush (I and II) could have got a declaration of war if everyone understood it to be needed. The US can restrict foreign commerce.
Eric| 12.23.11 @ 5:26PM
Paul claims to be a Libertarian, but where is the proof??
The Paul reputation is a sham. Let's see how he's actually VOTED. The fact is Paul votes for pork and nannystate as bad or worse as the rest of them.
And his newsletter proves he's just a socialist in Libertarian clothing.
American business owners who have survived Obama will be thrashed by Paul.
He needs to be outed for the statist he is.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 12:58PM
Ya boy is goin' down with his newletter as your arswipes, Clit. Say goodbye to his/your 15 minutes of fame. At least Cain didn't WEASEL UP in defeat!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:21PM
Clint: Everytime someone invites you somewhere to "make something of it," you turn and run.
Ice covers my Lake here in MN. Hypothermia happens.Fall in through the water, don't even need to drown, I'm told. Punkasses don't come up here, I note.
Vic and Margie, have a lovely Christmas.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 2:48PM
You Know Where To Find Me Zany Crazed Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Maniac ,Tool Job.
A Short Video For The Maniac Israel Firster, Tool Job.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
victor| 12.24.11 @ 4:35AM
Clint:
"You Know Where To Find Me Zany Crazed Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Maniac ,Tool Job."
Where, the nearest gin soaked doorway on Skid Row?
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:12PM
You've got to be a Chicago Acorn community organizer wannabe working for Eric @ Justice, right???????
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:22PM
No, actually, I don't. Are you in Pennsylvania or California? Or do you exist at all?
Lew| 12.23.11 @ 12:03PM
Say, since we're relying so much on his allegations, who is Jamie Kirchick anyway? http://dprogram.net/2011/12/21.....artalucci/
Quartermaster| 12.25.11 @ 9:16PM
Flaming leftists like Kirchick and the useful idiots in the faux-conservative press. Add in a large dollop of postmodernism and you get the rest of the supposed conservatives you see on this blog (you know who you are Victor, Occam, oldefarte, etc).
David, the GOP and Dems were outed by Buchanan years ago as the wings of the same bird of prey. But the truth was not accepted by the American people then, and they got Clinton for their troubles. It's now too late to pull it out and we are set for some serious problems when the country can't afford to defend itself anymore. They argue about Ron Paul's Foreign Policy, which won't matter since we won't be able to carry out the Neocon policy anymore.
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:20AM
Ron Paul also supports the alleged actions of Bradley Manning (note---he supports the actions of Bradley Manning should he be convicted of espionage). Ron "Treason's Friend" Paul should not be POTUS.
Mark Levin| 12.23.11 @ 1:51AM
Yeah! Ron Paul is a big jerk! RaaaAAAAAAHHHH!
C Bowen | 12.23.11 @ 6:48AM
Occam--
Aren't you the one who wants to use nuclear weapons to genocide Arabs?
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 9:20AM
Pssssst.
Genocide isn't a verb.
Quartermaster| 12.25.11 @ 9:17PM
He used it as a participle.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:03PM
Nah, that was ME, but only to NAGASAKI/HIROSHIMA them in order to un-[Islamic] jihad their ACTING STUPIDLY oh wait, I forgot, that was the Baptist, Methodists, Catholics etc who performed those evil deeds, right?]!!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:23PM
No. To get them to stop attacking us. One or two ought to do. Maybe three or four. War is applied violence to get the enemy to do what you want. If you think that retreat will call off the Islamists, you are a fool.
By the way, Iranians AREN'T Arabs. Dumbass.
Aren't you the one who wants Islamists to WMD attack US cities?
C Bowen | 12.23.11 @ 8:12PM
Getting soft in your old age? Do you want me to dig up your posts?
Do you really want to play this out? Take it to another level?
And fine, you want to genocide people living in the Middle East in general.
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:17PM
Who/what GENOCIDED the 3000 victims of 9/11/01 [or the 23 sailors of the USS Cole]? Is that level enough for ya??????????
Quartermaster| 12.25.11 @ 9:18PM
You need to look up the definition of genocide.
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:25PM
No, again, I don't. But I have no problem with destroying enough of these guys to get them to stop attacking me.
They contribute nothing to culture. They do no research. They just kill non-believers. Well, then they deserve to get hit.
By the way, tell me where I have written about the need to nuke Bahais, Druze, or Christians.
I believe in destroying those who would attack us. You have a problem with that?
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 7:53AM
Now, Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleader ,Tool Job Can Tell Us About His Long Silence About His Fellow Traveler, Israel Firster Ben Ami Kadish.
" Ben-ami Kadish is a former U.S. Army mechanical engineer. He pleaded guilty in December 2008 to being an "unregistered agent for Israel", and admitted to disclosing classified U.S. documents to Israel in the 1980s.His unauthorized disclosure of classified U.S. secrets to Israel was concurrent with the espionage activity of Jonathan Pollard.
In December 2008, Kadish pleaded guilty to acting as an unregistered agent of Israel, admitting he gave classified documents to Israel in the 1980s.Prosecutors asserted that Kadish had furnished classified American secrets to Yosef Yagur, the same Israeli agent who had received secret documents from Jonathan Pollard.
In determining the sentence, Judge William H. Pauley III asserted, "Why it took the government 23 years to charge Mr. Kadish is shrouded in mystery."Pauley stated that prison would "serve no purpose" for a man of Kadish's advanced age and infirmity, opting to levy a $50,000 fine against Kadish. The prosecutor stated that the decision to accept the plea agreement was based on Kadish's cooperation and his willingness to admit wrongdoing. Prior to sentencing, Kadish faced the judge standing with the aid of a cane and stated, "I'm sorry I made a mistake ... It was a misjudgment. I thought I was helping the state of Israel without harming the United States."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 9:18AM
Clint, how can you cut and paste without opposable thumbs?
Have you ordered your pair of steel-toed jack boots for the face stomping orgy, yet, Clint?
If I were you, I'd hang onto the receipt. You may have to return them (along with your uniform) and go back to your usual pastime of vandalizing people's homes and harrassing children.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 9:43AM
You Ain't Me Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleader, Grizlicker,But I Got Ya Trained To Follow Me Around.
Now, Go Fetch Bibi's Bone.
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Grizlicker's Face.
victor| 12.23.11 @ 10:21AM
Clint al-Qudwa al-Husseini:
"The Nazi Party Rebellion Goose Steps On Grizlicker's Face."
Answer the question:
Where'd ya get that quote boy?
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 11:27AM
American Spectator's Resident Israel Firster, Anti-Catholic Bigot And Margie's Old Man Plays His Dog Eared Nazi Card On Tea Party Clint,This Time.
Where'd Ya Get That Religious Bigotry Joisey White trash Bigot, Victor ?
Hmmmm Russkie ?
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Joisey White Trash Russkie, Victor's Face.
victor| 12.23.11 @ 12:08PM
Still can't answer the question, eh Goose Step Party Boy Clint?
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 12:34PM
Asked and Answered American Spectator Resident Anti-Catholic Religious Bigot And American Spectator's Resident Joisey White Trash Bigot, Margie's Old Man.
Dr.Ron Paul,
" While President Obama’s demand that Israel
make hard concessions in her border conflicts may very well be in her
long-term interest, only Israel can make that determination on her own,
without pressure from the United States or coercion by the United
Nations.
“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington.
“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.
“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On American Spectator's Resident Anti-Catholic Religious Bigot And American Spectator's Resident Joisey White Trash Bigot, Margie's Old Man's Face.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:06PM
Has Ron put out his latest NEWSLETTER yet, Clit?
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 2:52PM
Yeah RINO-CINO Apologist DogFarte.
Here It Is:
http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304
The Tea Party Rebellion Is here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:20PM
Good, then use his newletter to wipe the Clitexcrement uzzing forth from you mouth!!!!!
victor| 12.24.11 @ 4:38AM
Yeah, here it is:
Der Fuhrer holding an audience with Clint:
http://www.anthonyflood.com/Nuremberg Laws.jpg
victor| 12.24.11 @ 4:39AM
http://www.anthonyflood.com/NurembergLaws.jpg
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 10:34AM
Can't wait, can you Clint? Violence is the only thing that matters to you.
My, but you're a tough little thug. I'm impressed with the cogency of your arguments; really, I am. And I'm sure having cretins like you supporting him makes Ron Paul proud.
You are aware, aren't you, that Ron Paul isn't calling for face stomping? Or is that your own little contribution to the "movement?" Yessiree, violence is always the answer. I'm sure your wife only gets hit because she doesn't listen, right?
Kidding! I know you're not married.
You are a feckless piece of shit - regardless of what happens to Ron Paul.
Somebody needs to stomp you your face, old chap. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 11:32AM
Why Don't Try To Stomp On My Face Grizlicker ?
Obviously, You Israel Firsters Have A Habit Of Sending Others To Do Your Fightin' For Ya.
Now, Go Fetch Bibi's Bone.
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Grizlicker's Tail.
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 11:43AM
Tail!!!!!!!!!! That's funny.
Why don't you try to step on my face?
Bullies like you are all the same - cowards.
I repeat: You are a feckless piece of shit.
Paul McGrath| 12.23.11 @ 11:58AM
I don't know, Griz. "Feckless" might be stepping over the line a bit.
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 12:09PM
:-)
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 12:44PM
You Seem So Upset This Fine Morning, Israel Firster Gryzlicker.
I Already Stepped On Your Tail, Israel Firster Doggy.
Now, Ya Want Me To Step On Your Face ?
Sounds Like Some Verrrry Sado Stuff There Israel Firster.
We Heard Bibi Walks Ya Around In A Dog Collar & Leash .
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 1:02PM
Yada, yada, yada.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:09PM
Clit, WE WISH YOU A MERRY NEWSLETTER AND A HAPPY NEWSLETTER YEAR!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:07PM
Bibi's bone ain't infected like Ron's NEWSLETTER, right?????
Grzmlyk| 12.23.11 @ 1:20PM
Come on, Oldefarte: Ron Paul is Jesus Christ. He is pure goodness, pure light, pure omniscience, pure love. Which is why so many of his followers are pure thugs, princes of darkness, minions of ignorance and, above all, vessels of pure hate.
If Ron Paul did it - or someone did it in His Name - it is, by definition, Good.
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:28PM
Charitably [and ignorant of his complete politics], I have no total objection to Paul as a candidate. However I find his so-called lemmingish followers to be cultish, stupid idiots who sadly don't heve the common sense that the Almighty gave animals and small children to understand that their constant insulting proclamations towards potential political supporters of his candidacy to be destructive of his elective possibilities [which [possibly is the definition of INSANITY]!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:25PM
Already answered, Clint. I was unaware of this guy. Traitors to the US should rot in jail, like Bradley Manning (if convicted), whose alleged actions your Lord and Master calls "Heroic."
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 2:58PM
Interesting, That American Spectator's Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleader Captain,Tool Job Is Unaware Of Israel Firster Ben ami Kadish.
" Ben-ami Kadish is a former U.S. Army mechanical engineer. He pleaded guilty in December 2008 to being an "unregistered agent for Israel", and admitted to disclosing classified U.S. documents to Israel in the 1980s.His unauthorized disclosure of classified U.S. secrets to Israel was concurrent with the espionage activity of Jonathan Pollard.
In December 2008, Kadish pleaded guilty to acting as an unregistered agent of Israel, admitting he gave classified documents to Israel in the 1980s.Prosecutors asserted that Kadish had furnished classified American secrets to Yosef Yagur, the same Israeli agent who had received secret documents from Jonathan Pollard.
In determining the sentence, Judge William H. Pauley III asserted, "Why it took the government 23 years to charge Mr. Kadish is shrouded in mystery."Pauley stated that prison would "serve no purpose" for a man of Kadish's advanced age and infirmity, opting to levy a $50,000 fine against Kadish. The prosecutor stated that the decision to accept the plea agreement was based on Kadish's cooperation and his willingness to admit wrongdoing. Prior to sentencing, Kadish faced the judge standing with the aid of a cane and stated, "I'm sorry I made a mistake ... It was a misjudgment. I thought I was helping the state of Israel without harming the United States."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
C Bowen | 12.23.11 @ 8:14PM
Occam;
What is your take on Traitor Larry Franklin and Stephen Rosen?
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:30PM
Look, spying on the US earns you a jail sentence, OK? There are lots of US spies that the Israelis send home every year, as well. Spying happens, on friends as well as enemies. Roald Dahl did spying for Britain on America, for example.
I don't follow every spy because I live in the real world. The Islamists want to enslave your daughters, got it? The israelis are infinitely preferable, as their spying is no worse that Britain's is at this time. Now, I have a beautiful daughter, so I want the Musklims to lose. You clowns have no kids because you are mutants, especially Clint. Therefore, you have no interest in future generations. I do.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:03PM
And this is supposed to convince us Paul is not anti-Jewish?
Clint| 12.24.11 @ 2:26AM
" Message to Minorities "Ron Paul is Spelling this Sh*t out for You" Ron Paul 2012 "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFWNRifg2jA
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Treason's Friend| 12.23.11 @ 2:19AM
All Hail:
Ronaldus Minimus for President...
Of Vichy France!
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 2:48AM
Aaron stop shilling for the Cultural Marxist PC thought police. You should be ashamed of yourself. The so-called racist quotes were pulled out of context for shock value and when read in context are easily defensible from a conservative standpoint, although the language is perhaps indelicate. In a couple of cases at least the so-called racist quotes happen to be true and well known facts to boot. It's a problem that MLK was called an adulterer? Well he was. It's a problem that it is pointed out that black males are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime? Well they are.
As I said in a couple of other threads, Ron Paul erred initially with the vociferousness of his disavowal. By doing so he gave credence to the claim that the newsletters were in fact racist which they are not, so now he is stuck with that. He should have apologized for the arguably indelicate language but allowed others to defend the content in context.
So Ron Paul might be stuck with his position, but I'm not because I'm not a PC thought slave. I don't see how the "eek the newsletters" crowd can look at themselves in the mirror every morning knowing they are dancing to the Cultural Marxist PC thought enforcers tune and thereby empowering the liberal PC zeitgeist. I wouldn't do that if you paid me a million dollars because I have some self respect.
True Conservative| 12.23.11 @ 12:59PM
"It's a problem that MLK was called an adulterer? Well he was."
Red acts like he doesn't like raw federal power and then uses information from illegal FBI wiretaps to try to destroy those he finds inconvenient. Typical. You reap what you sow Red. Phony!
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 1:48PM
True (sic) Conservative (sic), I made no comment whatsoever about the FBI. My point is that it is absurd and illustrates the silliness of the anti-racist jihadists to use as evidence of racism statements of well know objective facts.
True Conservative| 12.23.11 @ 2:13PM
You are a fake conservative and will use government power to achieve your desires. Phony!!
"My point is that it is absurd and illustrates the silliness of the anti-racist jihadists (sic) to use as evidence of racism (sic) statements of well know (sic) objective facts."
Your use of a serious a Muslim religious concept as a way to describe your non Muslim enemies demonstrates that you are in fact the religious equivalent of a racist. Crusader Warmonger!
Anthony M| 12.23.11 @ 6:55PM
Martin King was no great man, yes, he was an adulterer, yes he did plagiarize his doctoral dissertation, yes he was an admitted communist supporter and yes he did give aid and support to the Viet Cong while our boys were fighting in the swamps.
He did do some good for his people, but he does not deserve to be the only American honored with a national holiday.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 8:12PM
True (sic) Conservative (sic) that had to be the most pathetic attempt at a comeback I have ever seen.
True Conservative| 12.23.11 @ 9:37PM
You need to read some of your own comebacks Red. What goes around, comes around. Are you liking it yet? You Paul supporters are the most obnoxious pompous aholes ever. You are right up there with Clint with respect to intellectual credibility. When Ron Paul was accusing Michelle Bachmann of hating Muslims and wanting to kill bunches of them were you doing your cultural marxist PC nonsense? I am thinking that you were no where to be seen. You are a pathetic phony and are only good for entertainment value. Go stare at yourself in the mirror for a while and then get some sleep.
Red Phillips | 12.24.11 @ 12:40AM
"When Ron Paul was accusing Michelle Bachmann of hating Muslims and wanting to kill bunches of them were you doing your cultural marxist PC nonsense? I am thinking that you were no where to be seen."
Oh really! Look at my comment in this thread. My comment is the 17th one down and references the 14th comment by RonL. And note the date. Long before your comment above.
http://conservativetimes.org/?p=10556
Bachmann's statements were factually wrong and irresponsibly alarmist, but Paul accusing her of hating Muslims was not helpful.
I'll accept your apology now.
Red Phillips | 12.24.11 @ 12:43AM
"with respect to intellectual credibility"
I'll put my conservative credentials up against yours any day of the week.
True Conservative| 12.26.11 @ 8:53AM
You won't be getting any apology. You call those discussing the obviously bigoted newsletters Cultural Marxist PC thought police. You refer to Ron Paul as being unhelpful for his Leno performance. I assume you mean unhelpful to his own campaign. To you this is taking a stand. To me it is an ideologue putting his blinders on. Unhelpful? By the way RonL said it right but you tried to turn his words into unhelpful. You have no conservative credentials. You are a radical ideologue. There is nothing conservative about that.
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:31PM
Red, Bradley manning is an alleged traitor. Paul supports those alleged acts that if convicted, would make Bradley a confirmed traitor. Whatdoes that say about Paul?
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:06PM
Far be it for me to help the Paul-bots out to destroy the US by re-elcting Obama, but I have to disagree.
There was good reason for wiretapping King. He has a very close associate who was a Communist, and the FBI was rightly concerned about where this might lead.
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:27PM
Red:
I have a problem with paul calling Bradley Manning a "hero" for his actions. He called Manning (who is facing trial) a "hero" if his alleged actions are proved to be true. Now, Clint has no problem with that, because he is, to be honest, a Paul spittle licker, but you profess to have a brain.
Justification for defending acts of Treason by a serving US enlisted Man?
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 1:52PM
Occam, I discussed Manning in the other thread. Manning is an oath breaker and I do not defend him. I do, however, think exposing government secrets is a good thing in general as long as it is done responsibly. For example didn't we learn from wikileaks that the Sunni Saudi Arabians are also beating the drum for war against the Shiite Iranians. That's go info to know, don't you think?
Warrior | 12.23.11 @ 4:45PM
OT: I agree with Red. Manning broke his oath without a doubt. Let's hold every one of the officials in DC who swore to protect and uphold the Constitution yet break their oath pretty much every day to this same standard. Sandy Berger had classified documents stuffed in his underwear yet he was given a pass. Our elected officials routinely leak classified material to the media and others without even a mention of punishment. Manning deserves punishment for his acts, but then why be quiet about all those others who have done similar if not worse within the beltway? Seems like selective enforcement.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:09PM
I think Berger should have been severely punished, as should anyone who intentionally leaks classified material (although not general information that may have alssified input).
But Manning was in the Army.
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:34PM
Paul supports those actions. That's a problem. That's a real problem. I supported Berger getting the book thrown at him.
We do not take the Devil for our model. Manning deserves death. Paul is a scumbag.
It did not take Wikileaks to figure out that the Saudis wanted the Iranians taken out. That is something I already knew before Wikileaks because I PAY ATTENTION. (Why were they giving the Israelis fly-over rights?)
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 3:01PM
American Spectator's Resident Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleader Captain, Tool Job Pleads gnorance Of Israel Firster Ben ami Kadish.
" Ben-ami Kadish is a former U.S. Army mechanical engineer. He pleaded guilty in December 2008 to being an "unregistered agent for Israel", and admitted to disclosing classified U.S. documents to Israel in the 1980s.His unauthorized disclosure of classified U.S. secrets to Israel was concurrent with the espionage activity of Jonathan Pollard.
In December 2008, Kadish pleaded guilty to acting as an unregistered agent of Israel, admitting he gave classified documents to Israel in the 1980s.Prosecutors asserted that Kadish had furnished classified American secrets to Yosef Yagur, the same Israeli agent who had received secret documents from Jonathan Pollard.
In determining the sentence, Judge William H. Pauley III asserted, "Why it took the government 23 years to charge Mr. Kadish is shrouded in mystery."Pauley stated that prison would "serve no purpose" for a man of Kadish's advanced age and infirmity, opting to levy a $50,000 fine against Kadish. The prosecutor stated that the decision to accept the plea agreement was based on Kadish's cooperation and his willingness to admit wrongdoing. Prior to sentencing, Kadish faced the judge standing with the aid of a cane and stated, "I'm sorry I made a mistake ... It was a misjudgment. I thought I was helping the state of Israel without harming the United States."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:09PM
Yuo have no point. Did any candidate support him?
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:36PM
OK, he deserves prison. Next case. You, on the other hand, support Bradley Manning. If Ron Paul told you to suck jihadist dick, Clint, you would be...oh, wait, he already has and you already do.
aware| 12.23.11 @ 6:33AM
The Spectator standing arm in arm with CNN and the New Republic shilling for the Status Quo. Strange bedfellows indeed!
"Now, of course, it may very well be the case that Paul didn't write the actual content..." Nice little bit of weaseling worthy of a little tool of the State who deludes himself that he is something other than that.
When this is over you will no doubt go back to claiming that "they"(mainstream media) are not "you". You won't have to try very hard to convince the hyper nationalists around here. If they can convince themselves that Newt is a conservative they will believe anything.
The country, indeed the world, facing economic Armageddon? No big deal.
Congress does away with due process and declaring America a "battlefield"? Not worth the time of the hard hitting team at the Spectator.
The great Republican "saviors" in Congress caving to a pissy 2 month extra 40 bucks a week for the debt slaves while the financial elite banks their hundred million dollar bonuses? Non story.
No, here we are more concerned with the pointless meanderings of the narcissistic Ben Stein and the obsessive phobias of the Jeffy Lord "stop Ron Paul at all costs" hit team. Yeah, you're sure doing your part, aren't you.
Warrior | 12.23.11 @ 9:01AM
Well said.
victor| 12.23.11 @ 10:28AM
aware:
"The great Republican "saviors" in Congress caving to a pissy 2 month extra 40 bucks a week for the debt slaves while the financial elite banks their hundred million dollar bonuses?"
One has nothing to do with the other.
The Payroll Tax is instituted by the Government to fund Social Security. We can do nothing about it.
Bonuses paid by banks are approved and paid for by the management of those institutions. The stockholders who own shares can influence the company one way or the other.
One is public enterprise and the other is private enterprise.
One you have a choice in being a part of, the other you do not.
Last time I looked at a paycheck, there was no line for Private Sector Bonuses.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 10:54AM
'The stockholders who own shares can influence the company one way or the other."
Yeah, why don't you see how that works out for you.
The lucrativeness of the banking enterprise is facilitated by the Federal Reserve. "Private" enterprise indeed.
aware| 12.23.11 @ 2:27PM
"One has nothing to do with the other."
Let's see, financial elite without "government" bailout equals kaput and no bonuses. Another Republican cave with TARP. For bankers the government giveth, for the average guy the government taketh away. And both involve what the Republicans do best, caving. Folding up like a cheap tent.
The 2 have more to do with each other than you know. Neither could happen without the Savoir State.
Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain......
ktr| 12.23.11 @ 12:48PM
Goldstein has been anti-Ron Paul ever since I read this. I do not agree with everything Ron Paul says but his ideas on economic recovery make great sense. All this other garbage about newsletters is a distraction that the mccain a bush supporters are reaching for so they do not lose power of the republican party.
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:12PM
Ron Paul's candidacy will get Obama elected, even if he does not get the nomination. Either the Republicans will lose the Paul-bots or the moderates. Either way Obama wins and the US is in deep trouble.
martin j smith| 12.23.11 @ 7:46AM
Ron Paul for me has been out before he was in. And latest matter is secondary to all of the other crap I have heard from Ron Paul who =Obama.
9thID| 12.23.11 @ 9:54AM
Besides Paul's documented racism and anti-Semitism, Ron Paul is to the far Left of Obama on social issues and national security. After getting daily national security briefings, at least dear leader Obama kept much of Bush's policies in place. Paul and his cult of neo-Confederates will keep marching into the sea...
Aleck| 12.23.11 @ 10:12AM
Here's some of Ron Paul's documented racism and anti-Sermitism -- http://youtu.be/i3EADdr-5AY
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 11:06AM
Are you as dense as Jeffrey Lord? For the 100th time, non-interventionism is not left of anything. It is the foreign policy that naturally flows from the authentic conservative mindset. People who want the US to play a special role in maintaining world order are the Jacobin-like radicals. Their vision of America is closer to the French Revolutionaries vision of France or the Trotskyites vision of the USSR. Go learn some basic political philosophy 101. Also Ron Paul is pro-life and introduced legislation to strip the court of jurisdiction over abortion. How is that to the left of Obama?
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:33PM
Red:
Non-interventionalism will get us killed. One does not wait until the epidemic is raging to start vaccinations.
I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Your views are impervious to change, and, hopefully, guys like me will elect enough candidates so that you won't have to worry your eggshell-soft skull over this.
Unlike the US in the 18th and 19th Centuries, GB's army and navy no longer control the safety of the world's sealnes. We pull out, absolute anarchy will result.
Conservatives aim to promote stability and order.
By the way, Ron Paul accepts contributions from StormFront. I will define my own enemies without help from you, jihadist appeaser.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 3:13PM
American Spectator's Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleader Captain,Tool Job Attempts To Smear Up Dr.Ron Paul For The Gazilllienth Time.
That's How Israel Firsters Attempt To Control The GOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On American Spectator's Zany Crazed Israel Firster Smear Artist, Tool Job.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 7:40PM
"Your views are impervious to change"
Pot meet kettle.
As I have explained to you over and over, all your terrorist scenarios at home have nothing to do with military adventuring abroad. You admit the threat is not military. Your plan seems to be to kill 1.2 billion Muslims just to be on the safe side. Some might call that genocide. But of course, Ron Paul is the one guilty of wrong think.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 11:10AM
Also, look at my comment at 2:48 above. Ron Paul has no "documented" racism or anti-Semitism you PC shill boy. Get some self respect and quit shilling for the Cultural Marxist PC though policers. Maybe we do need to worry about our security if a bunch of PC eunuchs like you were in the 9th ID.
9thID| 12.23.11 @ 1:34PM
Coming from a neo-liberal draft dodger, WikiLeaks traitor supporter, and Blame America Firster, that hurts! LOL!
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 1:59PM
Draft dodger? Who are you talking about? Me? First of all I'm not old enough to have been drafted. Second, I VOLUNTEERED FOR THE AF. Get your facts straight before you slander.
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:35PM
Is this one and the same Clit [w/o the C&P jobs attached] in overuse of the shill wordage along with a side order of insults?????????????
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 7:56AM
The Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Is Scared Of The Tea Party And Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Rion Paul.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
victor| 12.23.11 @ 10:37AM
Clint:
"Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ru Paul."
Who is the the other co-party favorite, eh?
At the first April 15th Tax Protest that Michele Bachmann organized, Ru Paul was nowhere to be found. Why was that, eh?
He was probably to busy organizing for Free Pot with his fox-hole buddy Barney Frank:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/06.....-paul-will
http://reason.com/assets/mc/mr.....eTrust.jpg
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 11:37AM
" Tea partiers in two camps: Sarah Palin vs. Ron Paul
Tea party activists are divided roughly into two camps, according to a POLITICO/TargetPoint poll: one that’s libertarian-minded and largely indifferent to hot-button values issues and another that’s culturally conservative and equally concerned about social and fiscal issues.
The survey, an exit poll conducted by Edison Research at the massive Tax Day protest on the National Mall, found that the attendees were largely hostile to President Barack Obama and the national Democratic Party — three-quarters believe the president “is pursuing a socialist agenda.”
Yet they aren’t enamored of the Republican Party as an alternative. Overall, three out of four tea party attendees said they were “scared about the direction” of the country and “want to send a message to both political parties.”
Palin, who topped the list with 15 percent, speaks for the 43 percent of those polled expressing the distinctly conservative view that government does too much, while also saying that it needs to promote traditional values.
Paul’s thinking is reflected by an almost identical 42 percent who said government does too much but should not try to promote any particular set of values — the hallmarks of libertarians. He came in second to Palin with 12 percent.
When asked to choose from a list of candidates for president in 2012, Palin and Paul also finished one-two — with Palin at 15 percent and Paul at 14 percent. "
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:11PM
Or the two camps of RON PAUL NEWSLETTER#1 OR RON PAUL NEWSLETTER#2!!!!!!!!
Sea Cucumber| 12.23.11 @ 8:44AM
I think the question that really needs to be answered is why so many self-professed conservatives see anything wrong the newsletters.
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 9:30AM
Probably because we're not racists.
Douche-bag.
Sea Cucumber| 12.23.11 @ 10:25AM
I take it you come from the Morris Dees school of conservatism?
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 11:19AM
Truthfully, I don't give a damn about the newsletters. I do, however, give a damn about the security of our nation, our allies, and our interests around the world. Ron Paul does not.
Therefore, in defense of my country, the gloves come off concerning Paul. I will not lie about him, but whatever damning information there is out there will be made public. If Paul gets the nomination, which isn't really possible, Obama will get reelected.
Besides, it's fun to piss off the Paulestinians!
Sea Cucumber| 12.23.11 @ 2:46PM
So do you admit that there was nothing objectionable about the newsletters, then? Or does your leftism extend to domestic issues as well?
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 9:35PM
I haven't read the newsletters, and don't give a shit about them. You obviously can't read, I said as much in the above post.
And if I was a leftist, like you claim, I wouldn't give a rat's ass about this country's security, like you.
You Paulestinians are really a bunch of dumbf$%^s, calling people who actually believe in defending our country, our allies, and our interests, leftists.
Who in the fu$% are you trying to kid here?
Sea Cucumber| 12.23.11 @ 10:07PM
You mad?
Yeah, you mad.
PS: The reason Paul supporters don't support democracy spreading crusades isn't because they are indifferent to national security; it's because they actually do care about national security. The difference between you chickenhawks and us is is that (1) we recognize that invading foreign nations doesn't help fight terrorism, in fact it often does the opposite; (2) recognize the danger posed by an the federal government using war as a pretext for usurping the our traditional liberties; (3) care about the safety of American soldiers; and (4) have some actual knowledge about history and current events.
Oh, and (5) we aren't hysterics scared to death of third world nations.
chuck| 12.24.11 @ 8:45AM
9/11 was planned from a cave in Afghanistan, which really isn't even up to the standard of a 3rd world country.
Fight them there, or fight them here. I prefer there. Personally I would have just dropped a couple of nukes on them, and saved us the trouble of "boots on the ground".
And something to consider, Paul is the only candidate on the Republican ticket that is taking this view of foreign policy, but many on the political left share this view.
Why is that, and who are the leftists here?
mzk1| 12.24.11 @ 12:16PM
Paul can re-elect Obama without getting the nomination. He will come to the convention and scare off the moderates.
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:34PM
No. Check out how many Republicans voted for the Civil Rights act of 1964 versus how many Democrats.
Sea Cucumber| 12.23.11 @ 2:50PM
"Republican" and "conservative" are hardly synonymous. Federal anti-discrimination legislation is in no way, shape, or form conservative.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 7:29PM
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was grossly unconstitutional PC boy! Goldwater understood this. Ron Paul understands this. This is because Ron Paul is a constitutionalist. You name me one other Congressman who would go on the record that the Civil Rights Act was unconstitutional. More evidence that Ron Paul stands alone as the sole elected constitutionalist in DC. You anti-Paul hysterics are pathetic and wouldn't know conservatism if it bit you on the rear.
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:37PM
Red Phillips = Clit??????
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 12:29PM
Read them in context PC shill boy.
Ed| 12.23.11 @ 9:22AM
Brave Sir RonPaul, he ran away.
9thID| 12.23.11 @ 9:57AM
Brave Sir Ron, who ran away, happens to be out looking for a shrubbery....
chuck| 12.23.11 @ 10:07AM
"the Gods demand a sacrifice!"
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 10:18AM
" The New Hampshire Gazette
The Chickenhawk Hall Of Shame.
name:
Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich
rank:
Chickenhawk First Class with Distinguished Fleeing Cross
date-of-birth:
June 17, 1943
home state:
Georgia
missed opportunity:
Vietnam War
preferred activity:
Attending grad school
occupation:
Congressman
A virtuoso in the art of hypocrisy, the former Speaker of the House now claims the Vietnam War was a splendid idea, but at the time he opposed going himself. Newtie also speaks highly of morality, but as a serial adulterer he doesn't want to get too close."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:13PM
Ron Pual, the non-chickenhawk and author of the POLITICAL TITANIC NEWLETTERS!!!!!!
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 10:22AM
" Dr. Ron Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968).
" Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force in the 1960s, spending time on the ground in countries like Ethiopia, Iran, Pakistan, South Korea, and Turkey. He also sits on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:15PM
Ron Paul: author of the NEWSLETTERS also, huh [oh wait, he CHICKENHAWKED by denying same]?????????
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:34PM
Brave Sir Ron, who wet his pants at the battle of Teheran...
Bruno's Pet| 12.23.11 @ 9:32AM
I want you to know that I never wrote those newsletters and never read them. I disavow them as I disavow the antisemitic Jack and Clint and frankly most of my kooky followers. When I talked about the newsletters as educational tools (for bigots) that was not me but serial hypocrite Newt Gingrich dressed in a Ron Paul suit. Please watch my positive commercials where my adoring masses scream for more and shout our Dear Leader. This is what America is about. I will tear down those fences that have been built along the border to keep Americans from escaping into Mexico. I promise to describe all acts of aggression against our country as deserved blow-back for past acts of interference. By my calculation Iran is due three military strikes on our homeland for 1953 alone if they don't accept my personal reset button. We will immediately go back to burning wood for heat since Al Qaeda is upset by our purchasing of oil from the criminal regimes that sell oil. We will have a foreign policy that is based on not upsetting China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Al Qaeda, North Korea and Mexico. I promise that I will continue to have my followers tell outrageous lies about minorities since they don't vote the right way. And I will definitely put a stop to black women intentionally injecting the AIDs virus into our white woman. On the recommendation of some of my advisers, we will return the south to a cotton based agrarian paradise before 1860. We will have show trials for Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison for not properly understanding what the Founding Fathers original intent. I will form a Ministry of Truth so that my followers can be kept up to date about the latest conspiracies. When I am tired of ruling my son Rand Paul Un will take over. Get ready for a rocky ride as we tear everything down and start again. I have been advised to call this our Great Leap Forward. Some eggs must be broken to make our big delicious omelet. And I promise that First Lady Bruno will not lecture school children what to eat but will give lectures in Austrian economics at all local motels.
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:35PM
BP: that was really funny. Merry Christmas.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 4:20PM
Apparently/sadly, it's getting close to BEAM-ME-UP-SCOTTY-TIME from the indications of these newsletters!!!!!!!!
Bruno's Pet| 12.23.11 @ 7:06PM
Nonsense, Oldefarte. I follow the Austrian school of thought. Sergent Schultz like Hitler was Austrian. I know nothing.
Aloysius| 12.23.11 @ 9:36AM
Aaron, I watched that video, but I didn't see Ron Paul "run away" as you assert. I did see him answering the allegations several times before he gave up on repeating himself. Moreover, these allegations are clear smear, at least to those who investigate them for themselves. But I agree with you that he should do better at answering the questions directly, as he surely can -- see http://regulatetheregulators.b.....s-faq.html
Aleck| 12.23.11 @ 10:05AM
See also http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/t.....wsletters/
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 11:17AM
And we know Gloria Borger's husband is the most inside of Washington insiders. Represents a bunch of defense interests and welfare state interests, all things that would be threatened by a Paul constitutional Presidency. Was she doing his dirty work the same way all the PC shillers here are doing the dirty work of the Cultural Marxists?
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 12:53PM
Objective Reporter Broad Gloria Borger's Hubby Lance ( A Likely Name )Morgan Of Powell Tate:
"When it comes to dealing with the media, communicating with audiences who influence public policy, solving problems and amplifying a message, there's no substitute for real-world experience.
Based in Washington, D.C., our staff has worked at the highest levels of government and politics, from the White House to Capitol Hill, political campaigns, advocacy organizations, corporations, media, law firms, state houses and regulatory agencies. We bring not only broad experience, but political diversity to our work."
Ah Ha !
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:17PM
Then why did he in CHICKENHAWK fashion take off the mike and run away without answering the questions?????????
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 1:28PM
Ask Gloria Borger's Hubby Lance Morgan, RINO-CINO Agenda Boy.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 4:03PM
Why would anyone want or need to do that WHEN THEY CAN SIMPLY READ THE NEWSLETTERS WITH RON PAUL'S NAME ON SAME, DUMBARS??????????
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 7:21PM
You're right Oldepcshill, I hope people do read them in context because they are easily defensible from a conservative standpoint.
http://takimag.com/article/why.....z1hNuZMArm
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 2:20PM
And this also??????: "....Paul's presidential campaign is thoroughly intertwined with the nonprofits. The Campaign for Liberty calls itself a lobbying group for "individual liberty, constitutional government, sound money, free markets and a noninterventionist foreign policy" — a tidy summation of Paul's campaign platform. Young Americans for Liberty's support of Paul is even more explicit, calling itself the continuation of the Students for Ron Paul wing of his 2008 campaign, coordinating his visits to campuses and publishing a magazine in which he laid out his "agenda for a freedom president."
Between the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, both nonprofits were stocked with Paul aides and relatives. Ivers served as Paul's Iowa campaign chairman in 2008 and holds the same position again this year. The Campaign for Liberty's president, John Tate, was paid a total of $338,000 by the group in 2009 and 2010. He is now Paul's national campaign manager. The nonprofit's senior vice president was Jesse Benton, who is now Paul's campaign chairman; its vice president was Debbie Hopper, who is now Paul's assistant campaign manager.
Lori Pyeatt, Paul's daughter, served until recently as the Campaign for Liberty's part-time secretary and treasurer, earning $34,000 for her work last year. Her daughter is married to Benton. Paul's son Ronnie is the group's unpaid chairman.
In all, nine out of the 16 staff members at the Campaign for Liberty are on leaves of absence from the group to work for Paul's campaign. The nonprofit's executive director, Matthew Hawes, said the group is still able to function and is an active advocate on state and federal issues unrelated to Paul's presidential campaign.
Paul campaign spokesman Gary Howard — who for 18 months served as the Campaign for Liberty's spokesman — said Paul resigned as Campaign for Liberty's honorary chairman when he joined the presidential race and believes the nonprofits complied with Internal Revenue Service rules. Still, like Ivers, he acknowledged the nonprofits have indirectly aided the campaign by training activists and raising his issues......" [from Newsmax]
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:38PM
Manning and Paul. Where is your answer? Nowhere, Phillips. It's indefensible. Ron Paul, "Treason's Friend."
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:37PM
You know, I already knew he was a spooky creep before the Newsletters. But what I want to know is this: HOW CAN HE ENDORSE THE TREASON OF MANNING?
I get no answer from the Paulbot vermin.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 4:15PM
Hopefully he's not a homosexual like Manning supposedly is? Talk about a 'spooky creep', Julien A. defines SPOOKY DUDE, and I'd bet $10000 [in Mittinese] that he possibly bi-sexually oriented!!!!!!
P| 12.23.11 @ 9:50AM
Paul doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to. Go blow.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:18PM
And no one has to VOTE FOR HIM also....ah ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 9:51AM
The Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleaders Are All Atwitter And Angst Ridden And Throwin' Jello Against The Wall, Hoping Something Sticks Before The January 3rd Iowa Caucuses.
" Ron Paul takes lead in latest Iowa poll
Texas Rep. Ron Paul is now atop the field in Iowa of Republicans looking to unseat President Obama next year.
Paul has the support of 27.5 percent of likely voters for the Jan. 3 caucuses, which kick of the 2012 race for the Republican nomination for president in less than two weeks, according to a poll conducted by Iowa State University/Gazette/KCRG.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich finished a close second, with 25.3 percent, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who took 17.5 percent."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:20PM
The only thing he'll lead in is DISAPPEARING WITH NEWSLETTERS IN HAND!!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:38PM
Manning and Paul. Where is your answer? Nowhere, Clint. It's indefensible. Ron Paul, "Treason's Friend."
Jon| 12.23.11 @ 5:29PM
Ron Paul has been a practicing Muslim for over 10 years. Why can't he admit it to the public??
9thID| 12.23.11 @ 10:06AM
The C-SPAN video out now showing Paul in '95 touting his newsletters is quite damning. It is then compounded by the Dallas interview in '96 with him defending them, but not denying he wrote them. "Context" was the only problem! It was only in 2001, when the newsletters resurfaced, that Paul went on the record as saying he didn't write them. Any rational person would now have to come to the conclusion that Ron Paul is a serial racist and prevaricator. No wonder Ron Paul is such a magnet for neo-Nazi and neo-Confederate types...
Sean| 12.23.11 @ 10:24AM
9thID is really Al Sharpton. Well maybe he is Jesse Jackson.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 11:25AM
Read my comment at 2:48 PC shill boy. Paul created part of this problem for himself by simply fleeing from the newsletters. He was right in '95 and '96 to say that the were being quoted out of context which they are. "Any rational person would now have to come to the conclusion" that 9thID is a shill for the Cultural Marxist PC thought police who has no self respect.
9thID| 12.23.11 @ 1:39PM
Maybe your neo-Liberal messiah will now offer to return the millions of dollars he took in subscriptions for the Ron Paul Racist Times newsletters. Give our regards to Prison Planet and Info Wars...
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 10:20AM
Asked & Answered In The 2008 Election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CYNV0U_kg
The Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleaders Are All Atwitter And Angst Ridden And Throwin' Jello Against The Wall, Hoping Something Sticks Before The January 3rd Iowa Caucuses.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 1:22PM
Q. Do you know how to spell Jello?
A. N-E-W-S-L-E-T-T-E-R-S !!!!!
Le Cracquere| 12.23.11 @ 10:51AM
In a way, Goldstein's wrong here--I'm not so sure Paul DOES have to answer anything. Most voters are now suspicious enough any further response wouldn't help much, and Paul's fans would mostly be fine with it if he HAD written the articles.
But let's assume that Paul didn't write any of the noxious stuff, and he didn't know about it at the time. Forgive me for repeating myself, but the trenchant question then is: what kind of candidate, and what kind of man, attracts people like the ACTUAL author around him like flies? What kind of man is willing to make common cause with people like the author, people like his vociferous on-line fans, and ride them to political office? Certainly not a responsible man, not a trustworthy man, and not a good one, whatever the probity of his private life.
Ed| 12.23.11 @ 11:21AM
His newsletters also tout David Duke as an up and comer. Great stuff, Ron Paul.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 11:31AM
No they don't PC shill boy. They say that Duke's success was related to his willingness to address the issues of affirmative action, reverse discrimination, etc. So do you support affirmative action? Stop shilling for the PC thought cops.
Occam's Tool| 12.23.11 @ 1:39PM
Manning and Paul. Where is your answer? Nowhere, Phillips. It's indefensible. Ron Paul, "Treason's Friend."
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 1:53PM
Check the other thread. I have answered you at length a couple of times.
Occam's Tool| 12.25.11 @ 11:38PM
Yes, Treason's Friend.
9thID| 12.23.11 @ 1:41PM
I predict that Ronny will now quit the GOP - again - and run on the Liberal-tarian ticket with David Duke as his runningmate...
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 4:09PM
Yeah, he was an 'up and comer' alright....he was finally up'd and come'd to federal prison as I recall!!!!!!!!!
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 11:35AM
"What kind of man is willing to make common cause with" the Cultural Marxist PC Gestapo? Apparently Le Cracquere is.
Le Cracquere| 12.23.11 @ 12:20PM
Brilliant, Mr. Phillips. You've hit the nail on the head--how saddened my Cultural Marxist PC Gestapo handlers will be by this premature exposure.
(But please don't judge me too harshly: the Cultural Marxist PC Gestapo dental plan is absolutely ACES.)
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 1:42PM
Take the quotes in context and tell what offends your PC sensibilities. Have you even seen them in context?
http://takimag.com/article/why.....z1hNuZMArm
Le Cracquere| 12.23.11 @ 8:05PM
If the passages are that sensible and innocuous, I'm frankly surprised that Paul won't simply say as much. I'm also mystified by the daylight that Paul supporters are trying to put between their man & the newsletters--why bother trying to deny he authored something that, allegedly, casts no negative light upon the author?
Red Phillips | 12.24.11 @ 12:22AM
We agree on something then Le C. The hysteria about the newsletters indicates the power of the charge of "racism" and by both adamentantly denying it and recklessly making the charge, both sides are empowering the liberal PC zeitgeist. This is what pisses me off and why I refuse to participate in either aspect. Paul should have apologized for the arguably indelicate language, but defended the content as he did in '95 and '96. And the anti-Paul hysterics should find something else to attack and quit doing the SPLC's dirty work for them.
Le Cracquere| 12.24.11 @ 8:42AM
I have zero regard for the SPLC, an utterly discredited pack of hysterics and knaves. But I'll refer you to an antique proverb regarding blind squirrels and acorns.
Oldefarte| 12.24.11 @ 3:47PM
From non-partisaned Wikipedia the following:
"....In 1996 the media inquired into these passages, having been brought to light by Paul's congressional opponent Charles "Lefty" Morris; Paul's congressional campaign countered the statements were taken out of context, and Paul responded by adding "If someone challenges your character and takes the interpretation of the NAACP as proof of a man's character, what kind of a world do you live in?" .....The newsletters, attributed to Paul, made statements such as "opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions," "if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be", and referring to Martin Luther King as a "pro-communist philanderer" and to Martin Luther King Day as "hate Whitey day.".....An issue from 1992 refers to carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos.".....In an article title "The Pink House" the newsletter wrote that " "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."....
....In 2001 Paul gave his own account of the newsletters, stating the documents were authored by ghostwriters, and that while he did not author the challenged passages, he bore "some moral responsibility" for their publication..... Paul's 2008 presidential campaign repeated these assertions when the challenged passages resurfaced again in Kirchick's January 2008 article......Paul "never uttered such words and denounced such small-minded thoughts," saying Martin Luther King, Jr., and Rosa Parks were personal heroes because they stood for individual rights, and that he had spoken highly about Parks in a 1999 floor speech in the House of Representatives......Paul took the position that the Kirchick story was a "rehash" of a political attack received during his 1996 campaign....." which adequately explains to me his non-authoring of same but also his repsonsibility for same!!!!!!!!!
Anthony M| 12.23.11 @ 8:00PM
But who actually cares about the comments in the newsletters? Paul's not running for the democrat nomination. I don't think Republican primary voters are going to turn on Paul because of this issue. The main issues for those Republicans who don't like Paul are national defense and foriegn aid. How about we have an intelligent discussion about the issues and not play Trotskyite games?
Made N America | 12.23.11 @ 12:01PM
Ron Paul's beliefs on not being involved in the affairs of the world are echos of George Washington's Farewell Speech, which you may find in the Documents page at: http://www.madeinamericasc.com/apps/documents/ - We American's should not be the Police of the world forcing our opinions on the world, we need to focus on our own behavior and conditions!
Hal| 12.23.11 @ 5:33PM
Except that Paul is only against war with Muslim countries. Gee, why do you think that is? Because his religious beliefs tell him it's wrong to kill Muslims, but okay to kill Christians? Paul has a developing track record of being anti-Christian.
Ivan| 12.23.11 @ 12:20PM
The hypocrisy of the neocons is breathtaking. The leading propagandists against Ron Paul's "racism" are the same people who revere and take as a model of intellectual integrity Bill Buckley, a rabid racist and white supremacist.
Buckley:
"In the Deep South the Negroes are retarded. Any effort to ignore the fact is sentimentalism or demagoguery. In the Deep South the essential relationship is organic, and the attempt to hand over to the Negro the raw political power with which to alter it is hardly a solution."
"The central question that emerges is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not predominate numerically? The sobering answer is Yes–the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race"
Tom| 12.23.11 @ 12:54PM
Ron Paul--True RINO!
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h.....paul-rino/
William R| 12.23.11 @ 1:25PM
Leon Wolf is dumber than a load of bricks
Tom| 12.23.11 @ 1:29PM
And Herr Wilhelm R. KKKlink is a stupid Paultard.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 1:30PM
Ron Paul-- Winning In Iowa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaSLxCwb0eY
Tom| 12.23.11 @ 2:14PM
Ron Paul--a total loser in life.
Todd Pollard| 12.23.11 @ 1:23PM
What Dr Paul said about the homos and the blacks is 100% true and the white Christian Americans know it is the truth but under Omammy nothing can be said that might offend the minorites who get special protection under AG Holder.
Clint| 12.23.11 @ 1:35PM
Warning !
Israel Firsters Do Not, I Repeat Do Not Watch This Short Video.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 4:28PM
This ISRAEL FIRSTER has had enough computer viruses attacks lately, so I'll take your word that this video is completely detrimental to Israel's salvation. Was it [from it's unusual descriptive address] produced in Iran perhaps........SHAZAM??????????
Dixie Pixie| 12.23.11 @ 3:40PM
Could somebody post a link or publish a copy of the alleged articles that Ron Paul may or may not have written.
The SPLC is well known for making false, inflammatory, outrageous and outright malicious statements to shake the Socialist money tree.
No statement or report they issue should be considered true until proven.
Red Phillips | 12.23.11 @ 8:01PM
Dixie, read this for context.
http://takimag.com/article/why.....z1hPRxhcw2
tonypal| 12.23.11 @ 3:49PM
Mr. Goldstein, how dare you write something critical of the Messiah, er Ron Paul?
Oldefarte| 12.23.11 @ 4:31PM
Yeah, Aaron had better be careful or the Paulistas will chase him down a street like they did to Hannity!!!!
B| 12.23.11 @ 4:46PM
Hey Aaron, why do you smear Ron Paul? What do you have against freedom from the Federal Reserve and peace? Do you really think the AIPAC-corrupted whores Newt or Mitt Romney can lead this country?
Mike| 12.23.11 @ 5:36PM
Why does Christians and protect Muslims? It's one thing to have a Muslim president, but not one like Paul who has declared Jihad on Christians.
Clint| 12.24.11 @ 12:44AM
Warning !
Israel Firster Propaganda Squad Cheerleaders, Do Not, I Repeat Do Not Watch This Short Video.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304
Clint| 12.24.11 @ 2:30AM
" Message to Minorities "Ron Paul is Spelling this Sh*t out for You" Ron Paul 2012 "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFWNRifg2jA
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Jonny Danger| 12.24.11 @ 12:08PM
You're all full of shit!
Paul is the one candidate who makes an ounce of sense: Legalize drugs because the drug war kills more people than all the drugs, who else has the guts to say that?
End the wars: They're too expensive and pointless, and also by our own laws they are often illegal and we are suffering dire consequences for our actions. We are losing our God-given and Constitutional rights to privacy, free speech, assembly, OWN GUNS, you name it. All for these wars!
"Put a frog in boiling water; it jumps out! Put it in cool water and slowly raise the temperature, it might not notice that it's being cooked!" Remember that, slaves.
Cicero| 12.26.11 @ 1:09AM
Typical vile anti-Paul spewing from a Jew who cares more about Israel than America.
AVCurmudgeon| 12.28.11 @ 3:01PM
I apologize for straying back on topic, but much as I am sick and tired of watching conservatives eat each other for lunch, I also must say I have no interest in yet another politician who plays the game of "plausible deniability." If Paul did not know about the articles he should denounce them in no uncertain terms and apologize for his lack of oversight. If he did know about the articles then he has to apologize for them and explain how and why his attitudes have changed. Otherwise, he has no business in public office.