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Yes, you just heard Ron Paul defending Iran’s right to blockade the Strait of Hormuz.
I understand wanting to avoid another Iraq but if Ron Paul is going to accept the word of James “The Muslim Brotherhood is a Secular Organization” Clapper that Iran doesn’t have a nuclear weapon then God help us if he gets within 1000 yards of the White House.
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Mike 3/505| 12.15.11 @ 10:15PM
Paul said Kennedy talked Kruchev outta nukes in Cuba? BS flag on the play. Kennedy blockaded Cuba.
Clint| 12.15.11 @ 10:16PM
Dr. Ron Paul, "I would ask Congress for a Declaration of War against Iran, if necessary."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
9thID| 12.15.11 @ 10:27PM
Ron Paul is a genocide enabler who makes Neville Chamberlain look like a piker...
Sean| 12.15.11 @ 10:27PM
Ron Paul did not defend their "right" to blockade the Strait. Ron Paul and the American people are not afraid of third world countries.
Red Phillips | 12.15.11 @ 10:28PM
"that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon"
Aaron, are you suggesting that Iran currently HAS a nuclear weapon or did you misspeak? If so, what is your evidence for that?
Iran is not going to blockade the Strait of Hormuz just for the heck of it. They would only do that if we attack them to up the cost of such an attack. This was Paul's point. No attack. No blockade of the Strait.
You know that and your frequent use of feigned outrage at Paul's foreign policy pronouncements, which you are already well aware of, is a rhetorical ploy and should be beneath you.
chuck| 12.15.11 @ 10:31PM
Ron Paul just self-destructed. Comes across as a raving lunatic. Bachmann made him look like a senile old man.
Clint| 12.15.11 @ 10:37PM
The Chickenhawk Candidates Are Talkin' Sgt. Rock Toughie Girls, While The Veteran Air Force Officer Dr.Ron Paul Talks Diplomatic Responsibility And Going To Congress For A Constitutional Declaration Of War And Not Allowing The Chickenhawks To Attempt To Use Our Warriors For Their Cannon Fodder Global Policing.
Where Did Little Ricky, Mittens , Neutered & Michele Serve In The Military?
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Sorry, but| 12.16.11 @ 1:23AM
You ain't helping Paul, bucko.
Red Phillips | 12.15.11 @ 10:43PM
Chuck, attacking a country because it might get a bomb which it then might use is not even preemptive war, it is preventative war, and it is a blatant violation of Christian Just War principles. You can't bomb people "just to be on the safe side." This is absurd, and it is grossly un-Christian. If being on the side of historic Christianity is self-destructing, then that speaks bad of GOP primary voters, not Ron Paul.
chuck| 12.15.11 @ 10:56PM
Red,
Paul is incredibly naive on the Iran issue.
Would it have been wrong to take out Hitler in the early "30s? 70 million lives would have been saved. If Iran obtains nuclear weapons, do you really trust them not to use them, or give them to terrorists?
Red Phillips | 12.15.11 @ 11:22PM
Chuck, you are speaking from hindsight. People in the early 30's didn't know what they knew later. This should be obvious. Again, you can't bomb a country based on what you speculate it might do. That is preventative war.
"do you really trust them not to use them, or give them to terrorists?"
I wouldn't use the word trust, but they won't bomb us because they don't want to be turned into glass which is what would happen if they did. The idea that Iran is going to bomb us preemptively in order to usher in Armageddon is interventionist propaganda. People who spout that theory are almost all (or all) people who are for intervening to begin with. Experts on Iran don't accept that theory.
Herb Tarlek| 12.15.11 @ 11:09PM
I've said this many times. If you guys want to attack a country with a bomb & a dedicated nutjob for a leader, North Korea is the place. They test fired a missile towards Hawaii for Pete's sakes! You guys are all revved up on Iran when N Korea has all the stuff in place you are hanging on Iran. Good thing about attacking N Korea, no interference with the oil supply. If you like driving, this is a plus. Iran is way down on the line compared to these guys. I say if China lends us the money, we do Korea 2.0.
Joey| 12.16.11 @ 12:17AM
So, are you going to put on the uniform and come with us to do it? Will you send your son or daughter to come with us? I'm imagining not. See, that's one of the problems. America isn't at war; America is at home, in the malls, and busy occupying Wall Street. Those of us at war are wearing a uniform.
Margie| 12.15.11 @ 11:20PM
Ha ha ha. Tonight while watching the debate, when Ron Paul made his sickening statements about Iran, my husband proclaimed, "Typical Paul-bot!"
I said, honey, he can't be a Paul-bot, he IS Paul!"
Laugh of the day, what can I say?
I thought Ron Paul appeared (and is) a man that needed to be taken away in a straight-jacket.
He has made it perfectly clear that he is insane.
Red Phillips | 12.16.11 @ 12:37AM
In a 2009 article for the Brown Journal of World Affairs, national security analyst Andrew Grotto probed the question "Is Iran a Martyr State?" and found that such claims are unsupported by anything like evidence, but rather have achieved the status of conventional wisdom simply by repetition."The martyr state view rests on bold, even radical claims about Iran's goals and behavior that defy conventional expectations of states' actions," wrote Grotto, "but no government in recorded history has willfully pursued policies it knows will proximately cause its own destruction."
"Given the novelty of the martyr state argument," Grotto continued, "and how unequivocally its proponents present it, one would expect to encounter an avalanche of credible evidence. Yet that is not the case." Finding both that "references are scarce in this line of writings, and certain references are cited with striking regularity," Grotto determined that the "martyr state" view essentially rests upon a few neoconservative op-eds and a report by a right-wing Israeli think tank, whose claims have been bounced endlessly around the internet.
http://mideast.foreignpolicy.c.....state_myth
Adam| 12.16.11 @ 12:49AM
We are doomed. I can not believe how stupid and arrogant most Americans are. Where is there any sensibility about peace? Unless we end the corruptions at the base of our economic-political-cultural this society WILL END! These so-called leaders are fully clueless ignorant fools playing a fool's game for bigger fools. YOU! You are a slave (legally and de facto) and to believe any of this theater of faux politics are going to save us is idiotic. It won't. Period. Ron Paul is the only one of these whores who even begin to grasp the crisis humanity is in. It is fundamental to the roots of how we live and think. To be direct, you have been ripped off of your future. And these clowns are window dressing to a bleak horizon.
Margie| 12.16.11 @ 1:06AM
We aren't doomed. At least those of us who know that no man is able to save us, but Christ alone.
Have you not heard the Good News of His Gospel?
He is coming soon, to save those who are eagerly waiting for Him, and the Government shall be upon HIS Shoulder. Heb. 9:28, Is. 9:6.
So, no need to worry. Place your faith in Him, and not in any politician, who happens to be as flawed as you or I.
They do the best they can, or most of them do.. and we choose from among them each time around, leaving the rest in God's Hands.
Aragorn| 12.16.11 @ 1:38AM
Good Lord, how can you possibly profess to be a good Christian and make claims to place your faith in the Lord, when not 3 posts earlier you levy a series ofattacks against Dr Paul, calling his desire to at least attempt a peaceful approach to the world in general, and Iran in particular, "sickening"? You offer no proof of how this view is "sickening", no proof of what actions Iran has taken against THIS country to date which might build a case for a justly declared war with a specific purpose.
From what I recall, a few thousand years ago the message was "Blessed are the peace makers" and "The meek shall inherit the Earth", NOT "Blessed are they who nuke the motherloving crap out of random countries 'just because they might do something bad... um... someday... or something'".
The Lord I believe in counseled peace, love, forgiveness. Cautioned against pride, boasting and placing too much value in wealth and personal gains. I only see one person running on EITHER side of the aisle that even remotely comes close to living those messages. All the other "Evangelical conservatives" or whatever they are calling themselves at this point are morally bankrupt... you can NOT be a true Christian and say with a straight face that we should be pursuing multiple preventative wars across the world. There's nothing remotely Christian or conservative about that.
adam| 12.16.11 @ 1:56AM
Excellent comments. Dr. Paul is the only candidate even remotely about peace. The rest of the dialogues are so unchristian as to stagger the imagination. To the professed Christians who may be reading this, to support any of these hypocrites except I would say Dr. Paul makes you someone as the bible puts it, a person God spits out as unsavory to his taste.
adam| 12.16.11 @ 1:40AM
First off you do not know these assertions for a fact. You are consoling yourself with some beliefs and are trying to pawn off a story. You come off as another arrogant American with another dream without proof, just a bunch of programming.
These so-called politician (what an ugly word that has become) are infinitely more flawed than I am, not that I am perfect but I am not a pied piper of darkness. They are corrupt to the core.
Please offer your pitying consolations somewhere else.
And BTW, Christ is always Present as Cosmic Love. Those who are already love know that and know they do not have to buy into some story.
Margie| 12.16.11 @ 7:30PM
"These so-called politician (what an ugly word that has become) are infinitely more flawed than I am.."
Hahaha, and you wanna talk about arrogance?
You as it seems that all of the Paul-bots are the epitome of arrogance.
You guys make me laugh.
adam| 12.16.11 @ 9:53PM
Number 1, I am no Paul-bot as you stupidly call supporters of the only candidate who even begins to address the real issues and secondly yes while I am not perfect, these candidates are leading masses down a path of darkness and slavery. That is mega-flawed, and dare I use the E word.
ZTTim| 12.16.11 @ 8:45AM
..the fact you spelled "asinine" wrong in your headline tells me you are as ignorant as article portrays. Get some help please.
Ron Paul 2012.
Cindy| 12.17.11 @ 12:39AM
Ron Paul is the only sane voice on foreign policy. God help us if the rest of the Republican candidates get within 1000 yards of the White House. I love his comments about Iran, a wonderful ancient country that Israel hates the most.