With that said, I do concur with Lord that the Republican Jewish
Coalition (of which I have been a member)
erred in not inviting Paul to its
GOP Presidential Candidates Forum, which is scheduled to take
place tomorrow in Washington, D.C.
RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks argues that
inviting Paul would be akin to inviting President Obama to
speak. I say that's fine. It would have been a welcome opportunity
for Jewish Republicans to confront Paul about his
anti-Israel views and put him on the defensive by likening him to
President Obama. It is one of those instances in which free speech
should be countered by more free speech. Besides it would have been
fun to watch Paul squirm.
Of course, all of this assumes that Paul would have accepted
their invitation had the RJC chosen to extend it. But if Paul had
declined to attend, the RJC could say, "See, we invited him and he
wanted no part of us."
I agree completely, as I've already stated. Despite the fact
that Paulbots are scum and Paul's district is the worst hellhole in
Texas (I lived in Galvetraz for four years---I hate Galveston), I
say, let him debate.
I am not familiar with the RJC--other than that when Fred
Thompson spoke there, the crowd was divided when he said he
wouldn't pardon Jonathan Pollard (the traitor), but anyway, do they
agree with your position that Iran, and well, most of the Middle
East, be nuclear bombed with American boys (and girls) leading the
charge?
I would love for that to be on tee-vee.
Occam's Tool| 12.6.11 @ 4:41PM
American missiles, not American soldiers. And Mr. Bowen, I don't
believe that that the nuclear destruction of Iran is a preferrable
thing---if they were able to install a sane government it might be
avoided---it is an INEVITABLE thing with the current government.
The only question is when, not IF. And who does it.
I doubt the RJC would support it; I don't belong. But again, I
don't regard you, or Clint, or Jack as philosemites; please. I can
tell my enemies by the stench.
With regards to Zbig: you are right, Paul is a traitor and a
scumbag. But allowing speech one disagrees with, even from a guy
friendly with Nazis, is a good thing. It is why we are Americans.
Soon enough there will be a WMD assault on the US due to the
worthless panderings of Paul and Kucinich and their Islamic allies.
Then will be the time to counterpunch against those who torment and
belittle our country, like the Iranians. And their payback will be
a bitch of an Rottweiler with a headache and an active menses.
Now you are just lying, unless, right now, you wish to state
that you are renounce your previous "nuke them all" position.
Aaron,
Please let me know if the RJC supports a nuke them all position
like Occam does--he seems eager to know, and at the least, please
apologize to me personally, for letting Occam post at Am-Spec.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:24PM
Screwball Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job's Got A Bad Habit Of
Badmouthing Former American Military Officers.
Ron Paul "I don't want white supremacists support"
Yep. G*d help you if you support Israel. Then you should be
stripped of your citizenship. What an f-ing joke you people are.
Were the Americans of Irish decent who supported, at least vocally,
the IRA, "Ireland Firsters" who should've had their citizenships
stripped & their asses sent back to Ireland?
aware| 12.7.11 @ 6:21AM
Occam, my God save us from the thugocracy you and all murderous
neo cons would give us. You are the one in jackboots here, my
friend. You advocate the instant vaporization of millions of human
beings abroad, men, women, and children as though they were
insects, and the rounding up and torture of thousands here. And
brand all who disagree as "traitors". Traitors to what? War and
oppression on a global scale? The permanent Garrison State?
In your wild gyrations your shirt tail has been exposed and we
see it is brown.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 4:32PM
Dr.Ron Paul,
“Our military’s purpose is to defend our country, not to police
the
Middle East.
“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt,
we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain
power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with
the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same
mistakes.
“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our
foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her
enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the
Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we
set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Jack in Wi| 12.6.11 @ 4:54PM
Paul almost never turns down an invitation from a reputable
organization that would give him an honest hearing. I am sure he
would have come if a civil and intelligent invitation would have
come. I don't believe the loonies from this Jewish outfit know what
the words civil and intelligent mean. The American people wish
Israel well. We wish them peace and freedom, as long as they keep
their hands out of our pockets, and quit buying our political
class.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 6:25PM
Yeah...you tell 'em, Jack!
Keep those damned Jews from picking our pockets and buying our
politicians so they can control us to their own ends!!
While we're at it, we need to stop them from eating our babies
in some sick, twisted Jew religious ritual, as well, huh?
RONPAULRONPAULRONPAUL!
Jack in Wi| 12.6.11 @ 7:17PM
I think RonPaul has finally deranged most of the Zionists on
this site. The fact that they have to depend on such a guy as
Gingrich as their last hope is proof of that. What part don't you
get, that we all could care less, what happens to Israel or what
Israel does with it's own money or blood. We care about the
trillions that Israel has cost us in the last 63 years. We are also
sick of our sons and daughters dying in wars that were instigated
to save Isreal.
I do mean trillions. The Council of the American Intrest had
done studies which conclude that israel has cost the USA between
it's founding and now, between 3 and 5 trillion dollars. That is
direct aid , endless intrest on that aid, loans and grants that are
never paid back, bribes to the Arabs and other Muslims to be nice
to Israel, huge oil surcharges on our oil prices because the Arabs
want to get even, and a lot more.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 8:57PM
Yeah! Preach it, Jack!
Damned right! Those frickin Joooos are really sticking it to
us!
We're spending $Trillions? (is that what you said?) for their
benefit and God knows how many 1000's of our own children fighting
for Israel, huh?
You're pathetic!
Ivan| 12.7.11 @ 3:55PM
C'mmon that's silly; to scream "Antisemitism" whenever you don't
have a valid argument.
Do you see a problem, any problem at all, in the position that
the US should stand by and watch the Arab Middle East destroy
Israel? Do you believe it in the national interest for Hamas or
their like to then control what once was Israel? Isn't this the
inevitable result of Paul's foreign policy position in the Middle
East?
William R| 12.6.11 @ 6:03PM
We're tired of fighting wars for that crappy little country
Israel.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 8:54PM
Really, William?
Interesting! Now....exactly which war have we ever fought for
Israel? I gotta tell, dude....if there was one, I must have missed
it.
I have to admit, however, that I may not be as "tuned-in" to
this vast Jooooo conspiracy as Jack and, perhaps, you are.
Have you got a reference regarding this heretofore unknown "war"
we fought for Israel?
Zbigniew Mazurak| 12.6.11 @ 4:16PM
You are wrong, Aaron, and so is Jeffrey Lord. Actually, is
morally repugnant (and I don't use this combination of words often)
for you and Lord to lecture the RJC and tell it to accept the
traitor from TX-14. Ron Paul is a despicable traitor, a fool, and
an isolationist Blame America First loon. He has no business
running for the GOP's nomination for any office, let alone for
President. The RJC's decision to ban him from their forum was THE
RIGHT DECISION. If Faux News, CNN, MSNBC, and CBS folks had any
balls, they would've banned Ron "Blame America First" Paul from
their debates, too.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 4:28PM
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger
national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the
needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need
to keep him fighting for our country."
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 4:34PM
" Nonintervention or non-interventionism is a foreign policy
which holds that political rulers should avoid alliances with other
nations, but still retain diplomacy, and avoid all wars not related
to direct self-defense. This is based on the grounds that a state
should not interfere in the internal politics of another state,
based upon the principles of state sovereignty and
self-determination. A similar phrase is "strategic
independence".Historical examples of supporters of
non-interventionism are US Presidents George Washington and Thomas
Jefferson, who both favored nonintervention in European Wars while
maintaining free trade. Other proponents include United States
Senator Robert Taft and United States Congressman Ron Paul.
Nonintervention is distinct from isolationism, the latter
featuring economic nationalism (protectionism) and restrictive
immigration. Proponents of non-interventionism distinguish their
policies from isolationism through their advocacy of more open
national relations, to include diplomacy and free trade."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 5:24PM
Here ya go, Clint:
From The Random House College Dictionary/Revised Edition.
Copyright 1982
"Isolationism:
The policy or doctrine that peace and economic advancement can best
be achieved by isolating one's country from alliances and
commitments with other nations."
Let me ask you PaulBots something;
How does The RuPaul feel about the "North American FREE Trade
Agreement"?
How about the "Canadian American FREE Trade Agreement"?
And...let's not forget about his desire to keep those little brown
"wetback" truckers off our "
Super Highways".
And then....the Coup de Grace; The gold standard.
With our system based on a yellow metal we scratch out of the
ground, any trading partners would simply "game" our system by
adding or subtracting supply of their goods based on the
fluctuating price of gold on the world markets--thus draining our
reserves at their convenience.
We'd be effectively forced to cease international trade or go
bust....Unless The RuPaul can talk the entire world to go onto the
gold standard.
So..with no foreign alliances, no mutual defense agreements, and
no trade...we certainly wouldn't need diplomats, either. Would
we?
That, my misinformed friend, is isolationism--even by your
heavily parsed standards.
Why does The RuPaul support all of these policies?
Dr. Ron Paul,
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the
Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we
set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:36PM
Duuuuhhhhh !
We Have No Defense Treaty With Israel.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:43PM
Duuuuhhhh !
Does Dr.Ron Paul really want to take us back to the Gold
Standard?
In one word: No. That is a catch-phrase used (by those who are
not familiar with his points) in an an attempt to misinform others
(who are even less familiar with what he wants) about his allegedly
"backwards" policy proposals. The truth is he does not want to "go
back" to a gold standard. He wants to go forward to something that
has never existed.
So, what does he really want?
Dr.Ron Paul wants gold and silver to be able to freely compete, as
currencies, with government established currencies (like the
federal reserve notes that are currently bearing the legend
“dollar”) on an even footing. He wants to do this by removing any
and all tax burdens from exchanges of gold and silver.
So Solo, let's make this clear. Since you are railing against
gold, does that mean you support the current system of Federal
Reserve bank notes as legal tender? If so, I would like to get this
documented here forever in print for all the world to see.
Thanks.
Also Solo, Ron Paul supports true free trade. As a proponent of
the Austrian school of economic he is a free trade absolutist. (I
don't necessarily agree with him on this.) But he rejects
sovereignty sacrificing managed trade agreements like NAFTA. So,
lets get this down for all the world to see also. Are you
suggesting you support sovereignty sacrificing trade agreements?
Thanks.
Jack in Wi| 12.6.11 @ 4:58PM
Zhiggie: The only traitors here are scum like you who would sell
out their country for some filthy, racist entity in the Middle
East. You and Jonathon Pollard are kissing cousins. We wish Israel
well just get the hell out of our government and it's pockets.
Sean| 12.6.11 @ 5:06PM
Actually RJC chairmen in the past have supported real traitors
to the USA like Jonathan Pollard.
Here, the Canadian goes again, suggesting Republican Jews care
more about policy towards a foreign country above all other
considerations.
Even greater than Abortion, Gun Rights and Smaller
Government.
Sick, sick people, the mirror image of the anti-Semites they
imagine lurking under the bed (next to Saddam's WMDs.) The funny
thing is Lord and Mr. Goldstein are smart enough to know that the
RJC has done Paul a great favor by revealing what a useless
front-group they are with cheap, county commissioner tactics--not
ready from prime time.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 4:41PM
It's a moot point.
The RuPaul would not have accepted the invitation, regardless.
The last thing he would do is be found rubbing elbows with THE
JOOOOOOOOS just before his lunatic fringe trundles forth to attempt
to scam the Iowa Caucus.
Hell....his tin-foil-hat wearing base would start avoiding him
like he was a chem trail or mind control floride in their Gubmit
supplied drinking water.
It was just last week that he said on national television that
he wouldn't end the Fed right away. The PaulBots probably already
suspect that he might have been "compromised" by the globalist
"banksta Joooos" for that comment alone.
LOL!
The only thing that the good participants at RJC will miss is
the oppurtunity to watch somebody do the classic Goose-step live
and in person.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:04PM
You Israel Firsters Got A Bad Habit Of Badmouthing Former
American Military Officers.
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger
national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the
needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need
to keep him fighting for our country."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Tom| 12.6.11 @ 5:29PM
YAAAWWWWNNNNN!!!!
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:45PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzz !
Tom| 12.6.11 @ 6:07PM
Most intelligence you have ever said, Clint.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 6:15PM
Yeah, You're The Chairman Of The Bores, Tommy.
Tom| 12.6.11 @ 6:30PM
The only thing Nitwit Clint could ever be Chairman of is the
local chapter of the Hitler Youth.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 7:03PM
Uh Oh !
Tommy Plays The Dog Eared Nazi Card On Tea Party Clint.
???? I don't think any American has to automatically respect
someone who has the unsavory allies that dear leader ronpaul has.
He got his medical education paid for by the G and served his tour.
Is there a blanket lifetime exemption for using neo-nazis to edit
one's newsletter if you served. Should have told McVeigh about the
blanket exemption.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:58PM
" Dr.Ron Paul graduated from Gettysburg College in 1957 and
furthered his education by attending Duke University Medical
Center. During this time, he married Carol Wells, who he had known
since high school. In 1961, four years after his marriage, Paul
obtained his medical degree.
Paul, by now in his late 20s, moved with his wife to Michigan
where he completed his internship at the Henry Ford Hospital in
Detroit. Utilizing his physician's training, Paul served in the
United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years
(1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of
Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked
again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard
(1965-1968). "
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 6:12PM
Regarding The Newsletter.
Asked And Answered In The 2008 Presidential Election.
"It would have been a welcome opportunity for Jewish Republicans
to confront Paul about his anti-Israel views..."
It is a sad commentary on the state of the Israel/foreign policy
debate that presumably intelligent people like Mr. Goldstein can't
distinguish between calling for neutrality and being "anti"
something.
I don't think it is a matter of intellect. Surely Aaron is
intelligent enough to get this distinction. Rather it is a matter
of not being able to disentangle emotions from reason and reality.
If you’re not for the current obviously pro-Israel status quo then
you must be "anti" Israel. This is an emotional response, not a
rational one.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:15PM
Jeffrey Goldberg,
" There are good reason to include Ron Paul. He is, in one sense, a
true Zionist, a believer in two core values of the Jewish
liberation movement: Jewish independence and Jewish self-reliance.
Independence is self-explanatory; self-reliance, in the context of
national defense, holds that the Jewish state shouldn't seek the
help of foreign soldiers to defend it."
Wow. The Atlantic. One of the most liberal rags around. One that
hails Marx as a "father of modernity." Great job, Clint. That Ron
Paul, he's a REAL conservative if someone from the Atlantic says
so...
I just read that one of the Board Members of the RJC is one of
traitor Jonathan Pollard's lawyers?
Why are any Republican candidates speaking at this thing?
And Mr. Goldstein, why would you be associated with such
people?
tonypal| 12.6.11 @ 6:31PM
Uh oh, Clint's back with the cut and paste machine.
Just so you know, me and the Boogieman just came back from one
of our mysterious Israel-Firster meetings. We held it in a secret
location, of course. Should have seen the crowd there. Elvis, Count
Chocula and everyone from the StoneCutters episode of the Simpsons.
Naturally, we were plotting Ron Paul's downfall. It was really
cool. I even got a new secret decoder ring.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 7:08PM
"Ron Paul Polls 2012: Texas Congressman Notches Another
Victory
Ron Paul dominated the Oklahoma Straw Poll, pulling in 46
percent. Herman Cain, who recently dropped out of the race,
received 25 percent. Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, the two
frontrunners in larger national polls, pulled in 17 percent and 6
percent, respectively, in the Oklahoma Straw Poll."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Anthony M| 12.6.11 @ 8:41PM
Ron Paul is an anti-semite? Are people going crazy? What happens
when the real anti-semites show up? Ever hear of the boy who cried
wolf?
Le Cracquere| 12.6.11 @ 9:45PM
Ron Paul is putting "oppo" researchers out of business.
All anyone really needs to do is say something
online--ANYTHING--about him, and let his fanboys discredit him for
free.
aware| 12.7.11 @ 6:25AM
I refer you to Occam above to see what the alternative is.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 9:55PM
More Shuck & Jive Israel Firster Trash Talkin' .
" Iowa poll finds Ron Paul in second, edging past Mitt
Romney
Libertarian-leaning Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R) is outperforming the
odd-on Republican frontrunner, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt
Romney (R), in the key GOP primary state of Iowa, according to a
new poll out on Sunday.
It’s the third poll so far to confirm Paul’s emergence as a
leading candidate for the Republican nomination to the presidency.
A second poll, also released this weekend, found Paul trailing
Romney by 1 percent — well within the margin of error."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
burt| 12.6.11 @ 11:58PM
Poor Moonbat Clint
Still trying to lie and scam for his Jew hating leader .
A self loathing DC CROOKED Insider for 30 years who actually BLAMED
HIS OWN COUNTRY FOR THE MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE by
MUSLIM NUTTERS !
Lets not forget Old RON supports the Radical American hating
Iranian fanatics right to obtain Nuclear Weapons to wipe out the
west and Israel. Well Ronny and Iran and his Code Pink Donors all
have a shared hate of Israel !
Ron Paul is a sick Jew hater and fraud who peddles his tired
little constitution while Ramming thru huge EARMARKS for his pals
for decades while the US taypayer get stuck paying for his pals
goodies !
Yes, Ronny fought the GOP ban on earmarks and
try to push thru over 134,000,000 in earmarks in 2009.
The TEA PARTY REBELLION NEEDS TO STOP the Fraud and Hater Ron Paul
!
Clint| 12.7.11 @ 1:06AM
" Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin
Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our
Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured
it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to
America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani
suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what
we do in the Islamic World – because ‘we’re over there,’
basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”
Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that
the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin
Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying
Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new
jihadists joining the movement."
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Israel Firster Propaganda Squad
Flunkie Stooge,burtie.
How many of these turgid screeds do you have & how often do
you have to paste them before you'll realize that your perpetual
candidate is a JOKE?
Micah B. Haber| 12.7.11 @ 1:06AM
Mr. Goldstein tells an anecdote where some Ron Paul supporters
posted anti-Semitic comments to a thread on a previous article. My
anecdote, and likely more useful as I am around more Ron Paul
supporters more often than Mr. Goldstein, is that anti-Semites are
in the far minority, being by my count two.
Mr. Goldstein states that Rep. Paul is "anti-Israel." He gives
no evidence to support this contention. There are two facts that
imply Paul is effectively pro-Israel. First, US foreign aid to
Israel is dwarfed by that given to her Arab neighbors. Eliminating
foreign aid would be a net benefit for Israel. Secondly, malignant
US interventionism in Israel's internal affairs have prevented it
from taking actions necessary to its security. Ceasing to pressure
Israel to give in to those that wish to destroy it, and not
preventing it from defending itself, would be a far more pro-Israel
policy than we have had historically, or any of the other
candidates are likely to pursue.
Clint| 12.7.11 @ 1:09AM
Dr.Ron Paul,
" I have never voted for an earmark. I voted against all
appropriation bills. So, this whole thing about earmarks is totally
misunderstood.
Earmarks is the responsibility of the Congress.
If you cut off all the earmarks, it would be 1 percent of the
budget. But, if you vote against all the earmarks, you don't cut
one penny. That is what you have to listen to. We're talking about
who has the responsibility, the Congress or the executive
branch?
I'm saying, get it out of the hands of the executive branch.
Just listen again about what I have said about the TARP funds. We
needed to earmark every penny. Now we gave them $350 billion, no
earmarks, and nobody knows..."
Dr.Ron Paul Gets It About Earmarks & Congress Having It's
Responsibility Usurped By The Executive Branch.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Donovan | 12.7.11 @ 3:12AM
Ron Paul squirm? Never happened in the last 40 years of video
I've watched of him (even when some loudmouth fat hick stood up and
shouted at him for his views on ending the Drug War; to which Ron
yelled back, "....Hey! You're overweight! Perhaps , you'd prefer
the government to put you on a diet?"
No sir, those that would squirm are the little chicken hawks &
weasels that have been lying to the brave and hard working men and
women of the USA to pay for their wars and fight their battles for
them. When Ron exposes them for the great cowards they are then we
will watch them squirm as they always do.
All the Jews are not "little chicken hawks & weasels that
have been lying to the brave and hard working men and women of the
USA to pay for their wars and fight their battles for them". The
Israelis I work with wish their government would stop worrying
about the West and their financial support.
Maybe your "CHOOOOS" are. I know you are.
martin j smith| 12.7.11 @ 7:46AM
I don't think it is necessary. In fact telling Ron Paul that
Jewish Republicans don't care for him much is not such a bad thing
anyway. Ron Paul will do as he pleases and I really do not think
there was any great loss one way or the other. At best it would
been --nw that we know we do not agree we move on moment and that
at best. No Big Deal
Myron| 12.8.11 @ 3:03PM
Ron Paul is not anti-Jewish... watch his interview about his
opinions on Israel.
Occam's Tool| 12.6.11 @ 4:14PM
I agree completely, as I've already stated. Despite the fact that Paulbots are scum and Paul's district is the worst hellhole in Texas (I lived in Galvetraz for four years---I hate Galveston), I say, let him debate.
C Bowen| 12.6.11 @ 4:28PM
Occam;
I am not familiar with the RJC--other than that when Fred Thompson spoke there, the crowd was divided when he said he wouldn't pardon Jonathan Pollard (the traitor), but anyway, do they agree with your position that Iran, and well, most of the Middle East, be nuclear bombed with American boys (and girls) leading the charge?
I would love for that to be on tee-vee.
Occam's Tool| 12.6.11 @ 4:41PM
American missiles, not American soldiers. And Mr. Bowen, I don't believe that that the nuclear destruction of Iran is a preferrable thing---if they were able to install a sane government it might be avoided---it is an INEVITABLE thing with the current government. The only question is when, not IF. And who does it.
I doubt the RJC would support it; I don't belong. But again, I don't regard you, or Clint, or Jack as philosemites; please. I can tell my enemies by the stench.
With regards to Zbig: you are right, Paul is a traitor and a scumbag. But allowing speech one disagrees with, even from a guy friendly with Nazis, is a good thing. It is why we are Americans. Soon enough there will be a WMD assault on the US due to the worthless panderings of Paul and Kucinich and their Islamic allies. Then will be the time to counterpunch against those who torment and belittle our country, like the Iranians. And their payback will be a bitch of an Rottweiler with a headache and an active menses.
C Bowen| 12.6.11 @ 4:48PM
Now you are just lying, unless, right now, you wish to state that you are renounce your previous "nuke them all" position.
Aaron,
Please let me know if the RJC supports a nuke them all position like Occam does--he seems eager to know, and at the least, please apologize to me personally, for letting Occam post at Am-Spec.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:24PM
Screwball Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job's Got A Bad Habit Of Badmouthing Former American Military Officers.
Ron Paul "I don't want white supremacists support"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
William R| 12.6.11 @ 6:52PM
You mean Ron Paul is a traitor because he isn't loyal enough to your country Israel.
Israel murders our sailors
http://video.google.com/videop.....7114591367
Loots our secrets and turns the info over to the Russians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwohP8_zHd4
New about 9/11 in advance and didn't warn us.
You should have your citizenship stripped and deported to Israel.
Con Chef (NB)| 12.7.11 @ 12:00PM
Yep. G*d help you if you support Israel. Then you should be stripped of your citizenship. What an f-ing joke you people are. Were the Americans of Irish decent who supported, at least vocally, the IRA, "Ireland Firsters" who should've had their citizenships stripped & their asses sent back to Ireland?
aware| 12.7.11 @ 6:21AM
Occam, my God save us from the thugocracy you and all murderous neo cons would give us. You are the one in jackboots here, my friend. You advocate the instant vaporization of millions of human beings abroad, men, women, and children as though they were insects, and the rounding up and torture of thousands here. And brand all who disagree as "traitors". Traitors to what? War and oppression on a global scale? The permanent Garrison State?
In your wild gyrations your shirt tail has been exposed and we see it is brown.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 4:32PM
Dr.Ron Paul,
“Our military’s purpose is to defend our country, not to police the
Middle East.
“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.
“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
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Jack in Wi| 12.6.11 @ 4:54PM
Paul almost never turns down an invitation from a reputable organization that would give him an honest hearing. I am sure he would have come if a civil and intelligent invitation would have come. I don't believe the loonies from this Jewish outfit know what the words civil and intelligent mean. The American people wish Israel well. We wish them peace and freedom, as long as they keep their hands out of our pockets, and quit buying our political class.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 6:25PM
Yeah...you tell 'em, Jack!
Keep those damned Jews from picking our pockets and buying our politicians so they can control us to their own ends!!
While we're at it, we need to stop them from eating our babies in some sick, twisted Jew religious ritual, as well, huh?
RONPAULRONPAULRONPAUL!
Jack in Wi| 12.6.11 @ 7:17PM
I think RonPaul has finally deranged most of the Zionists on this site. The fact that they have to depend on such a guy as Gingrich as their last hope is proof of that. What part don't you get, that we all could care less, what happens to Israel or what Israel does with it's own money or blood. We care about the trillions that Israel has cost us in the last 63 years. We are also sick of our sons and daughters dying in wars that were instigated to save Isreal.
I do mean trillions. The Council of the American Intrest had done studies which conclude that israel has cost the USA between it's founding and now, between 3 and 5 trillion dollars. That is direct aid , endless intrest on that aid, loans and grants that are never paid back, bribes to the Arabs and other Muslims to be nice to Israel, huge oil surcharges on our oil prices because the Arabs want to get even, and a lot more.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 8:57PM
Yeah! Preach it, Jack!
Damned right! Those frickin Joooos are really sticking it to us!
We're spending $Trillions? (is that what you said?) for their benefit and God knows how many 1000's of our own children fighting for Israel, huh?
You're pathetic!
Ivan| 12.7.11 @ 3:55PM
C'mmon that's silly; to scream "Antisemitism" whenever you don't have a valid argument.
jagscl| 12.7.11 @ 9:07AM
Do you see a problem, any problem at all, in the position that the US should stand by and watch the Arab Middle East destroy Israel? Do you believe it in the national interest for Hamas or their like to then control what once was Israel? Isn't this the inevitable result of Paul's foreign policy position in the Middle East?
William R| 12.6.11 @ 6:03PM
We're tired of fighting wars for that crappy little country Israel.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 8:54PM
Really, William?
Interesting! Now....exactly which war have we ever fought for Israel? I gotta tell, dude....if there was one, I must have missed it.
I have to admit, however, that I may not be as "tuned-in" to this vast Jooooo conspiracy as Jack and, perhaps, you are.
Have you got a reference regarding this heretofore unknown "war" we fought for Israel?
Zbigniew Mazurak| 12.6.11 @ 4:16PM
You are wrong, Aaron, and so is Jeffrey Lord. Actually, is morally repugnant (and I don't use this combination of words often) for you and Lord to lecture the RJC and tell it to accept the traitor from TX-14. Ron Paul is a despicable traitor, a fool, and an isolationist Blame America First loon. He has no business running for the GOP's nomination for any office, let alone for President. The RJC's decision to ban him from their forum was THE RIGHT DECISION. If Faux News, CNN, MSNBC, and CBS folks had any balls, they would've banned Ron "Blame America First" Paul from their debates, too.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 4:28PM
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 4:34PM
" Nonintervention or non-interventionism is a foreign policy which holds that political rulers should avoid alliances with other nations, but still retain diplomacy, and avoid all wars not related to direct self-defense. This is based on the grounds that a state should not interfere in the internal politics of another state, based upon the principles of state sovereignty and self-determination. A similar phrase is "strategic independence".Historical examples of supporters of non-interventionism are US Presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, who both favored nonintervention in European Wars while maintaining free trade. Other proponents include United States Senator Robert Taft and United States Congressman Ron Paul.
Nonintervention is distinct from isolationism, the latter featuring economic nationalism (protectionism) and restrictive immigration. Proponents of non-interventionism distinguish their policies from isolationism through their advocacy of more open national relations, to include diplomacy and free trade."
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Solo| 12.6.11 @ 5:24PM
Here ya go, Clint:
From The Random House College Dictionary/Revised Edition. Copyright 1982
"Isolationism:
The policy or doctrine that peace and economic advancement can best be achieved by isolating one's country from alliances and commitments with other nations."
Let me ask you PaulBots something;
How does The RuPaul feel about the "North American FREE Trade Agreement"?
How about the "Canadian American FREE Trade Agreement"?
And...let's not forget about his desire to keep those little brown "wetback" truckers off our "
Super Highways".
And then....the Coup de Grace; The gold standard.
With our system based on a yellow metal we scratch out of the ground, any trading partners would simply "game" our system by adding or subtracting supply of their goods based on the fluctuating price of gold on the world markets--thus draining our reserves at their convenience.
We'd be effectively forced to cease international trade or go bust....Unless The RuPaul can talk the entire world to go onto the gold standard.
So..with no foreign alliances, no mutual defense agreements, and no trade...we certainly wouldn't need diplomats, either. Would we?
That, my misinformed friend, is isolationism--even by your heavily parsed standards.
Why does The RuPaul support all of these policies?
Because he's a f@#$ing ISOLATIONIST, that's why!
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:31PM
Duuuuhhhhhhh !
Dr. Ron Paul,
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
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Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:36PM
Duuuuhhhhh !
We Have No Defense Treaty With Israel.
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Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:43PM
Duuuuhhhh !
Does Dr.Ron Paul really want to take us back to the Gold Standard?
In one word: No. That is a catch-phrase used (by those who are not familiar with his points) in an an attempt to misinform others (who are even less familiar with what he wants) about his allegedly "backwards" policy proposals. The truth is he does not want to "go back" to a gold standard. He wants to go forward to something that has never existed.
So, what does he really want?
Dr.Ron Paul wants gold and silver to be able to freely compete, as currencies, with government established currencies (like the federal reserve notes that are currently bearing the legend “dollar”) on an even footing. He wants to do this by removing any and all tax burdens from exchanges of gold and silver.
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Red Phillips| 12.6.11 @ 9:00PM
So Solo, let's make this clear. Since you are railing against gold, does that mean you support the current system of Federal Reserve bank notes as legal tender? If so, I would like to get this documented here forever in print for all the world to see. Thanks.
Red Phillips| 12.6.11 @ 9:05PM
Also Solo, Ron Paul supports true free trade. As a proponent of the Austrian school of economic he is a free trade absolutist. (I don't necessarily agree with him on this.) But he rejects sovereignty sacrificing managed trade agreements like NAFTA. So, lets get this down for all the world to see also. Are you suggesting you support sovereignty sacrificing trade agreements? Thanks.
Jack in Wi| 12.6.11 @ 4:58PM
Zhiggie: The only traitors here are scum like you who would sell out their country for some filthy, racist entity in the Middle East. You and Jonathon Pollard are kissing cousins. We wish Israel well just get the hell out of our government and it's pockets.
Sean| 12.6.11 @ 5:06PM
Actually RJC chairmen in the past have supported real traitors to the USA like Jonathan Pollard.
C Bowen| 12.6.11 @ 6:37PM
Sean;
Eliot Lauer is a board member of the RJC.
He is one of Pollard's lawyers.
William R| 12.6.11 @ 6:08PM
You're too dumb to even know what isolationism means
Con Chef (NB)| 12.7.11 @ 12:02PM
And your answer is so illustrative of YOUR intellect.
C Bowen| 12.6.11 @ 4:17PM
Here, the Canadian goes again, suggesting Republican Jews care more about policy towards a foreign country above all other considerations.
Even greater than Abortion, Gun Rights and Smaller Government.
Sick, sick people, the mirror image of the anti-Semites they imagine lurking under the bed (next to Saddam's WMDs.) The funny thing is Lord and Mr. Goldstein are smart enough to know that the RJC has done Paul a great favor by revealing what a useless front-group they are with cheap, county commissioner tactics--not ready from prime time.
Solo| 12.6.11 @ 4:41PM
It's a moot point.
The RuPaul would not have accepted the invitation, regardless.
The last thing he would do is be found rubbing elbows with THE JOOOOOOOOS just before his lunatic fringe trundles forth to attempt to scam the Iowa Caucus.
Hell....his tin-foil-hat wearing base would start avoiding him like he was a chem trail or mind control floride in their Gubmit supplied drinking water.
It was just last week that he said on national television that he wouldn't end the Fed right away. The PaulBots probably already suspect that he might have been "compromised" by the globalist "banksta Joooos" for that comment alone.
LOL!
C Bowen| 12.6.11 @ 4:49PM
LOL--you were scared of Saddam.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:02PM
Uh Oh !
Solo Plays The Dog Eared Anti-Jew Card Again.
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Tom| 12.6.11 @ 4:57PM
The only thing that the good participants at RJC will miss is the oppurtunity to watch somebody do the classic Goose-step live and in person.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:04PM
You Israel Firsters Got A Bad Habit Of Badmouthing Former American Military Officers.
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
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Tom| 12.6.11 @ 5:29PM
YAAAWWWWNNNNN!!!!
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:45PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzz !
Tom| 12.6.11 @ 6:07PM
Most intelligence you have ever said, Clint.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 6:15PM
Yeah, You're The Chairman Of The Bores, Tommy.
Tom| 12.6.11 @ 6:30PM
The only thing Nitwit Clint could ever be Chairman of is the local chapter of the Hitler Youth.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 7:03PM
Uh Oh !
Tommy Plays The Dog Eared Nazi Card On Tea Party Clint.
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Tom| 12.7.11 @ 6:12AM
Deal with it, Nitwit Clint.
Con Chef (NB)| 12.7.11 @ 12:05PM
Clint's "Tea Party" Organization:
http://www.pqbds.com/
Ed| 12.6.11 @ 5:45PM
???? I don't think any American has to automatically respect someone who has the unsavory allies that dear leader ronpaul has. He got his medical education paid for by the G and served his tour. Is there a blanket lifetime exemption for using neo-nazis to edit one's newsletter if you served. Should have told McVeigh about the blanket exemption.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:58PM
" Dr.Ron Paul graduated from Gettysburg College in 1957 and furthered his education by attending Duke University Medical Center. During this time, he married Carol Wells, who he had known since high school. In 1961, four years after his marriage, Paul obtained his medical degree.
Paul, by now in his late 20s, moved with his wife to Michigan where he completed his internship at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit. Utilizing his physician's training, Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968). "
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Clint| 12.6.11 @ 6:12PM
Regarding The Newsletter.
Asked And Answered In The 2008 Presidential Election.
Talk To Wolf Blitzer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CYNV0U_kg
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Red Phillips| 12.6.11 @ 5:08PM
"It would have been a welcome opportunity for Jewish Republicans to confront Paul about his anti-Israel views..."
It is a sad commentary on the state of the Israel/foreign policy debate that presumably intelligent people like Mr. Goldstein can't distinguish between calling for neutrality and being "anti" something.
I don't think it is a matter of intellect. Surely Aaron is intelligent enough to get this distinction. Rather it is a matter of not being able to disentangle emotions from reason and reality. If you’re not for the current obviously pro-Israel status quo then you must be "anti" Israel. This is an emotional response, not a rational one.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 5:15PM
Jeffrey Goldberg,
" There are good reason to include Ron Paul. He is, in one sense, a true Zionist, a believer in two core values of the Jewish liberation movement: Jewish independence and Jewish self-reliance. Independence is self-explanatory; self-reliance, in the context of national defense, holds that the Jewish state shouldn't seek the help of foreign soldiers to defend it."
.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/12/ron-paul-zionist/249532/
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Con Chef (NB)| 12.7.11 @ 12:07PM
Wow. The Atlantic. One of the most liberal rags around. One that hails Marx as a "father of modernity." Great job, Clint. That Ron Paul, he's a REAL conservative if someone from the Atlantic says so...
winston| 12.6.11 @ 5:51PM
wRONg Paul is a neo-nazi... Period!
William R| 12.6.11 @ 6:06PM
It's obvious your IQ is lower than room temp
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 6:04PM
That's A Lie.
You're A Liar.
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C Bowen| 12.6.11 @ 6:25PM
I just read that one of the Board Members of the RJC is one of traitor Jonathan Pollard's lawyers?
Why are any Republican candidates speaking at this thing?
And Mr. Goldstein, why would you be associated with such people?
tonypal| 12.6.11 @ 6:31PM
Uh oh, Clint's back with the cut and paste machine.
Just so you know, me and the Boogieman just came back from one of our mysterious Israel-Firster meetings. We held it in a secret location, of course. Should have seen the crowd there. Elvis, Count Chocula and everyone from the StoneCutters episode of the Simpsons. Naturally, we were plotting Ron Paul's downfall. It was really cool. I even got a new secret decoder ring.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 7:08PM
"Ron Paul Polls 2012: Texas Congressman Notches Another Victory
Ron Paul dominated the Oklahoma Straw Poll, pulling in 46 percent. Herman Cain, who recently dropped out of the race, received 25 percent. Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, the two frontrunners in larger national polls, pulled in 17 percent and 6 percent, respectively, in the Oklahoma Straw Poll."
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Anthony M| 12.6.11 @ 8:41PM
Ron Paul is an anti-semite? Are people going crazy? What happens when the real anti-semites show up? Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?
Le Cracquere| 12.6.11 @ 9:45PM
Ron Paul is putting "oppo" researchers out of business.
All anyone really needs to do is say something online--ANYTHING--about him, and let his fanboys discredit him for free.
aware| 12.7.11 @ 6:25AM
I refer you to Occam above to see what the alternative is.
Clint| 12.6.11 @ 9:55PM
More Shuck & Jive Israel Firster Trash Talkin' .
" Iowa poll finds Ron Paul in second, edging past Mitt Romney
Libertarian-leaning Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R) is outperforming the odd-on Republican frontrunner, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), in the key GOP primary state of Iowa, according to a new poll out on Sunday.
It’s the third poll so far to confirm Paul’s emergence as a leading candidate for the Republican nomination to the presidency. A second poll, also released this weekend, found Paul trailing Romney by 1 percent — well within the margin of error."
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burt| 12.6.11 @ 11:58PM
Poor Moonbat Clint
Still trying to lie and scam for his Jew hating leader .
A self loathing DC CROOKED Insider for 30 years who actually BLAMED HIS OWN COUNTRY FOR THE MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE by MUSLIM NUTTERS !
Lets not forget Old RON supports the Radical American hating Iranian fanatics right to obtain Nuclear Weapons to wipe out the west and Israel. Well Ronny and Iran and his Code Pink Donors all have a shared hate of Israel !
Ron Paul is a sick Jew hater and fraud who peddles his tired little constitution while Ramming thru huge EARMARKS for his pals for decades while the US taypayer get stuck paying for his pals goodies !
Yes, Ronny fought the GOP ban on earmarks and
try to push thru over 134,000,000 in earmarks in 2009.
The TEA PARTY REBELLION NEEDS TO STOP the Fraud and Hater Ron Paul !
Clint| 12.7.11 @ 1:06AM
" Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World – because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”
Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."
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Con Chef (NB)| 12.7.11 @ 12:08PM
Clint Robo Post Number 106
How many of these turgid screeds do you have & how often do you have to paste them before you'll realize that your perpetual candidate is a JOKE?
Micah B. Haber| 12.7.11 @ 1:06AM
Mr. Goldstein tells an anecdote where some Ron Paul supporters posted anti-Semitic comments to a thread on a previous article. My anecdote, and likely more useful as I am around more Ron Paul supporters more often than Mr. Goldstein, is that anti-Semites are in the far minority, being by my count two.
Mr. Goldstein states that Rep. Paul is "anti-Israel." He gives no evidence to support this contention. There are two facts that imply Paul is effectively pro-Israel. First, US foreign aid to Israel is dwarfed by that given to her Arab neighbors. Eliminating foreign aid would be a net benefit for Israel. Secondly, malignant US interventionism in Israel's internal affairs have prevented it from taking actions necessary to its security. Ceasing to pressure Israel to give in to those that wish to destroy it, and not preventing it from defending itself, would be a far more pro-Israel policy than we have had historically, or any of the other candidates are likely to pursue.
Clint| 12.7.11 @ 1:09AM
Dr.Ron Paul,
" I have never voted for an earmark. I voted against all appropriation bills. So, this whole thing about earmarks is totally misunderstood.
Earmarks is the responsibility of the Congress.
If you cut off all the earmarks, it would be 1 percent of the budget. But, if you vote against all the earmarks, you don't cut one penny. That is what you have to listen to. We're talking about who has the responsibility, the Congress or the executive branch?
I'm saying, get it out of the hands of the executive branch. Just listen again about what I have said about the TARP funds. We needed to earmark every penny. Now we gave them $350 billion, no earmarks, and nobody knows..."
Dr.Ron Paul Gets It About Earmarks & Congress Having It's Responsibility Usurped By The Executive Branch.
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Donovan | 12.7.11 @ 3:12AM
Ron Paul squirm? Never happened in the last 40 years of video I've watched of him (even when some loudmouth fat hick stood up and shouted at him for his views on ending the Drug War; to which Ron yelled back, "....Hey! You're overweight! Perhaps , you'd prefer the government to put you on a diet?"
No sir, those that would squirm are the little chicken hawks & weasels that have been lying to the brave and hard working men and women of the USA to pay for their wars and fight their battles for them. When Ron exposes them for the great cowards they are then we will watch them squirm as they always do.
Con Chef (NB)| 12.7.11 @ 12:12PM
Yeah. Those evil "CHOOOOS!" They're so nefarious!
Donovan | 12.7.11 @ 10:13PM
All the Jews are not "little chicken hawks & weasels that have been lying to the brave and hard working men and women of the USA to pay for their wars and fight their battles for them". The Israelis I work with wish their government would stop worrying about the West and their financial support.
Maybe your "CHOOOOS" are. I know you are.
martin j smith| 12.7.11 @ 7:46AM
I don't think it is necessary. In fact telling Ron Paul that Jewish Republicans don't care for him much is not such a bad thing anyway. Ron Paul will do as he pleases and I really do not think there was any great loss one way or the other. At best it would been --nw that we know we do not agree we move on moment and that at best. No Big Deal
Myron| 12.8.11 @ 3:03PM
Ron Paul is not anti-Jewish... watch his interview about his opinions on Israel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZpL8F4FgU