Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta
is at it again where it concerns Israel.
On Friday, during a speech before the Brookings Institution in
Washington, Panetta went all MSNBC on Israel. To be precise,
Panetta stated that Israel needed to “lean forward” to
achieve peace with the Palestinians. He also demanded that Israel
to “just get to the damned table” and to “reach out and mend
fences” with Egypt, Turkey and Jordan.
This isn’t the first time Panetta has publicly bashed Israel.
Two months ago, while he was en route to the Middle East, Panetta
made
similar comments. Well, since Panetta is reiterating what he
said two months ago, I
shall do the same. Let me do so with four questions.
Why is the Obama Administration placing the onus solely on
Israel to reach out and mend fences?
Why isn’t the Obama Administration chastising Egypt for allowing
the Israeli Embassy to be attacked?
Why isn’t the Obama Administration taking Turkey to task for
sponsoring flotillas against the Israeli naval blockade of
Gaza?
Why isn’t the Obama Administration bringing any pressure to bear
against the Palestinian Authority for kissing and making up with
Hamas? The last I checked the State Department listed
Hamas as a terrorist organization.
Quite frankly, President Obama has only himself to blame for
stalled peace talks when he began making demands with regard to the
construction of housing in Jerusalem even the Palestinian Authority
wasn’t making. The Palestinians took a harder line because of
Obama.
Speaking of Obama, it is interesting to see him
assuaging Jewish Democrats that he’s done more for Israel’s
security than any previous administration while leaving it to the
likes of Panetta and Howard Gutman, an Obama fundraiser who
currently serves as our Ambassador to Belgium, to do his dirty
work. President Obama is running for re-election after all and
can’t afford to directly alienate Jewish voters than he has
already.
Gutman is under fire for blaming Israel for Muslim anti-Semitism
at a conference in Brussels on anti-Semitism earlier this week.
Newt Gingrich has called upon President Obama to fire Gutman
but don’t count on it. Gutman, like Panetta, are merely surrogates
through whom President Obama can convey his contempt for
Israel.
Mladen Andrijasevic | 12.4.11 @ 6:16AM
The situation is just beyond belief. How could we have reached such a point? That an American Secretary of Defense can come up with such nonsense is scary. It shows that Panetta understands nothing. The very fact that for the last few weeks proponents of the Arab Spring have been talking of “moderate Islamists” demonstrates total ignorance of the subject. Moderate Nazi may seem an inappropriate comparison but it is not. And who is to blame? Our media which for decades has been reluctant to discuss the nature of Islam also refused to discuss the ineffectiveness of MAD vis-à-vis Iran. As a consequence of this global ignorance Americans elected a president whose incompetence and appeasement of Iran may cost the lives of millions. We are in deep, deep trouble. To see why Panetta is saying nonsense read MAD is Dead. http://www.madisdead.blogspot.com/
Jack in Wi| 12.4.11 @ 2:58PM
Israel is not my country. Mr. Panetta should just worry about the defense of this country and not the world. Trillions have been wasted on Israel. It is time it didn't come running here very time it wants some kind of bailout. Let the greatest welfare queen in the history of the world figure it out for itself with it's own money and the blood of it's own citizens. Shalom.
Nick| 12.4.11 @ 6:53PM
"Spiritually, we are all Semites."
- Pope Pius XI, 1938, in an address to Belgian pilgrims at the Vatican.
"Trillions have been wasted on Israel."
Do even know how much a trillion is, Jack-boot? Obviously not.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 10:51PM
"Pope Benedict XVI supports Palestinian state and criticizes Israeli barrier
Pope Benedict XVI has pledged his support for the creation of a Palestinian homeland and criticized the 'tragedy' of Israel's separation barrier.
Speaking in Bethlehem, where he delivered his most sensitive speech yet of an eight-day tour of the Holy Land, Benedict XVI acknowledged the suffering of the Palestinian people following the establishment of Israel in 1948.
But he also urged moderation, telling Palestinians they should not use violence to further their cause.
Speaking later at the Aida refugee camp, he criticised the concrete security wall "towering over us", saying it was "tragic'' to see barriers erected between the two communities."
Occam's Tool| 12.4.11 @ 10:59PM
It is tragic. It has reduced Jewish and Palestinian deaths. One keeps maniacs in padded cells.
Clint| 12.5.11 @ 11:18AM
Obviously, Tool Job has chewed his way out of his straitjacket and tunneled his way out of The Minnesota Institute For The Criminally Insane.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 12:37PM
Brilliant rebuttal, Muzzie lover. You awe us with your stupidity daily. And we than you for that, Vatican Firster.
MikeG| 12.5.11 @ 7:47PM
So your response to Clint is to act like Clint, CC?
Jack in Wi| 12.5.11 @ 2:47AM
I know what trillions are Nick. The Council for the American Intrest has just done a study which has concluded that American support for Israel has cost between 3 and 5 trillion dollars since 1948. That includes vast amounts of foreign aid to Israel and the Arabs, intrest on that aid forever, loans that are never paid off, huge oil prices because the arabs want to screw us for our support of Israel and unending wars for Israel.
We may be be spiritual semites, but we are not actual semites. We should not back the criminal racist state that denies basic human rights to millions of people. What Hitler did to the Jews in 1937, when the Pope wrote his message are the same kinds of things the Israeli's are doing to their neighbors. Hitler did not have 500 nuclear bombs either, to threaten the world with the Samson Option.
W| 12.5.11 @ 12:06PM
Jack
How does aid given to the Arab states account as support or aid given to Israel?
How does the money we pay to the Arabs for oil amount to support or aid to Israel?
If Israel did not exist then we would not have given any money to the Arab states and not paid for the oil? Do you believe the Arabs would have given us the oil for free?
Nick| 12.5.11 @ 6:46PM
Jack-boot,
The Council for the American Intrest? Are they related to the Council of Conservative Citizens? The notorious white-separatist group, to which, I'm sure, you belong.
And, studies are like certain body orifices, everyone has one. It doesn't make them true. In fact, they are usually made up, like your's.
martin j smith| 12.4.11 @ 8:02AM
Its the State Department --a permanent anti-Israeli
organ and let us also not forget that both Bushes were also anti-Israel as well. Obama even more so.
I will state this Jews who support Obama are not Jews but Socialists. That is their religion. They can go to synagogue. They can be 100% Orthodox for all I care. They are no longer Jews in my eyes.
In this country a " real Jew" does not abandon the Jewish people. Its in their blood to stand up. But
there are two types that could care less: The "Lost Jew" one who keeps a Jewish surname and has some vague pretense of "Jewishness" yet hates fellow Jews and is willing to sell out Israel. What makes them "lost" is that either have no religion, or have "converted" to a " SocialistJudaism" or some completely different religion. The false Jews are those who claim to be all for the Jewish People yet do things that are really destructive . Both types are in the Obama administration and the Socialist Party.
Jack in Wi| 12.4.11 @ 3:02PM
The vast majority of Jews support Obama and Hillary Clinton with their votes and money. Republicans and conservatives get nothing from supporting Israel. It is time to let Israel to figure it out for themselves and it is time for America to quit letting this pipsqueek run our foreign policy
Nick| 12.4.11 @ 6:54PM
"Spiritually, we are all Semites."
- Pope Pius XI, 1938, in an address to Belgian pilgrims at the Vatican.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 10:52PM
"Pope Benedict XVI supports Palestinian state and criticizes Israeli barrier
Pope Benedict XVI has pledged his support for the creation of a Palestinian homeland and criticized the 'tragedy' of Israel's separation barrier.
Speaking in Bethlehem, where he delivered his most sensitive speech yet of an eight-day tour of the Holy Land, Benedict XVI acknowledged the suffering of the Palestinian people following the establishment of Israel in 1948.
But he also urged moderation, telling Palestinians they should not use violence to further their cause.
Speaking later at the Aida refugee camp, he criticised the concrete security wall "towering over us", saying it was "tragic'' to see barriers erected between the two communities."
Nick| 12.4.11 @ 11:31PM
Clint,
We agreed to a truce, remember?
Clint| 12.5.11 @ 11:22AM
Take It Up With Pope Benedict, Nick.
Nick| 12.5.11 @ 7:12PM
Clint,
I didn't make a truce with the Holy Father, nor, was it he, who replied to my comment. And, except for one other time, you have kept our truce.
Let us agree to continue it, okay?
Mimi Mayes | 12.5.11 @ 3:47PM
I'm glad you said that - many times I've heard someone ask Rush Limbaugh how can Jews be so overwhelmingly liberal, especially in light of the treatment Israel has gotten from Obama. He has always said they are liberals first (or socialists, same thing!), and Jews second. My question is, why is all the pressure put on Israel to come to the table, when the Palestinians do not recognize Israel's right to exist? This is insane and I have never understood it.
Wayne| 12.4.11 @ 8:42AM
Obama has done more for Israel's security. He has convinced them they can't rely on the US any more.
Dan| 12.4.11 @ 9:50AM
There's something to that.
The fantasies about their situation are slowly but surely evaporating.
Do you guys know that the IDF hasn't even trained for desert warfare for years? YEARS!
That should give you a certain insight into the insanity prevailing in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, as well as that in Washington.
Red Phillips | 12.4.11 @ 9:17AM
The Secretary of the the American Department of Defense should have nothing to say about Israel one way or the other.
Seargent Schultz| 12.4.11 @ 9:27AM
I see nothing.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 9:35AM
Maybe Obama Will Run For Prime Minister Of Israel After We Tea Party Patriots Throw His Alinsky Ass Out Of The United States.
" In just a year, Jewish Israelis’ opinion of President Barack Obama has turned on its head, according to a new Saban Center for Middle East Policy poll.
A majority, or 54 percent, now say they have a favorable view of the U.S. president — a year ago, just 41 percent of those polled viewed Obama in a positive light."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Dan| 12.4.11 @ 9:47AM
Why are you fingering solely the Obama administration?
Don't you think the problem, the attitude towards Israel, towards the whole "Arab/Israeli dispute" exists within the Democrat foreign policy establishment, an establishment by the way which is effectively synonymous with AMERICA'S foreign policy establishment.
Where in American academia is the view towards the problem any different than that presently held by the Obama administration?
Moreover, why didn't you observe that the REPUBLICAN foreign policy establishment is not wholly untouched with similar views? Don't you recall how Condi and Bush sandbagged Israel during the last two years of the previous administration?
My point here is that the isolation of Israel is not something that we're moving towards but is now a FACT, something that is still being veiled somewhat from the American people, but is now a FACT, a basis, the predicate, for America's foreign policy establishment.
We're in trouble.
And the Jews are going to the wall, because Washington has grown weary of maintaining any moral and intellectual distinctions.
Cultural and moral relativism, intellectual weariness, sheer gutlessness. All present.
teflon93| 12.4.11 @ 9:48AM
It's because the prospect of a second Holocaust keeps Obama and his ilk warm at night.
Ed| 12.4.11 @ 10:44AM
That should bring Obama's American Jewish vote down to, what, 70%. Actual Holocaust celebration would make it 65. Dumbest voting bloc in America.
LC JB | 12.5.11 @ 8:35AM
Yessirrreee....I still can't figure out why a bloc like that can consistently vote AGAINST their own self-interest. It takes total ignorance of history to vote for socialists that perpetrated the holocaust and to this day still harbor ill-will towards jews.
Not only dumb but premeditated dumb.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 12:55PM
Not all of us, y'all. Not all of us.
Anthony M| 12.4.11 @ 11:00AM
In reality, the Jewish vote, at the most 2% of the American electorate, isn't that important. Supporting Israel against terrorists comes down to right and wrong, not votes.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 11:19AM
Dr.Ron Paul,
“Our military’s purpose is to defend our country, not to police the
Middle East.
“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.
“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.
“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
bluecollarbytes| 12.4.11 @ 11:56AM
If Israel 'leans forward' anymore than it has over the years, it could lose its head.
Why will there only be 'peace' based on what Israel does? That implies there is an enemy with clearly-identifiable reasonable demands- which Israel should have no problems in complying with, if only it puts aside its stubbornness.
It's one thing to hide truths behind diplomacy, but not when Israel's existence, as always, is at stake. There is only 1 'peace partner' in reality.
Ed| 12.4.11 @ 12:25PM
You had to know this would bring out the morals free paultards. That will keep the jews from taking the blood of arab babies to make their matzoh. Somehow, to the genius 6th dimensional chess playing deep thinkers of dear leader ronpaul, we can avoid the troubles of the rest of the world. Historically, of course, we haven't ever been able to do so and we won't be able to do so now with a smaller world and larger weapons. Yet there we are with ronpaul, the misunderstood genius.
Ed| 12.4.11 @ 12:43PM
Couldn't you imagine ronpaul in the 1930's, giving a speech to a Bund about how we weren't going to choose betweeh Hitler and Great Britain?
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 3:08PM
Dr. Ron Paul,
"I Would Ask Congress For a Declaration Of War Against Iran, If Necessary. "
Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor Michael Scheuer, Former CIA Chief of The bin Laden Unit,
2.) Publicly state that there will be no U.S. surprise attack on Iran, and no U.S. attack at all on Iran unless the president asks for a formal declaration of war and the Congress votes its approval in a constitutional manner.
3.) Call in Israel's ambassador to the United States and tell him that we understand that Israel believes Iran is a threat to its survival, and that we agree that Israel has every right to defend itself. If Israel believes it must go to war with Iran, then so be it. But also tell the ambassador that if Israel attacks Iran, the U.S. administration will declare U.S. neutrality in the war and immediately cut off military and financial support to all combatants in the war.
4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Ed| 12.4.11 @ 4:57PM
Yes, that's the ticket-the US has no stake in any ME conflict and Iran having nukes is a neutral event. That's why I love dear leader ronpaul. Hitler/The rest of the World-sorry, we have to maintain neutrality.
tonypal| 12.4.11 @ 10:03PM
Ed, anyone who doesn't agree with Clint is one of these mysterious Israel-Firster types. Heck, he called me one a few weeks ago for making fun of Ron Paul. I still don't know what an Israel-Firster is, but Clint's pretty sure I'm one of them. I suspect I'm also a member of the Tri-Lateral commission.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 10:42PM
Figure it out Crybaby.
tonypal| 12.5.11 @ 11:49AM
Hey Clint, you're the only one here who reacts to every post and whines on endlessly about anyone who dares speak ill of your God Ron Paul. Quite often immature people and democrats (in disguise) reveal their true nature by casting aspersions on others. You just don't seem to have it in you to disagree in a civilized manner. Yesterday I'm an Israel-Firster (again, whatever that is), today I'm a cry baby. Is that really the best you can do (as he answers his own question)? Now I'm off to the secret cave to meet with the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Temple of Set, the Israel-First Brigade, the FreeMasons and the all the other secret societies dedicated to one single proposition - preventing Ron Paul from getting the Republican nomination. In the meantime, watch out for the Boogie Man.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 10:38PM
We Act In The National Interests Of The Unites States,Not The National Interests Of The Foreign Nation of Israel.
Dr.Ron Paul,
" While President Obama’s demand that Israel
make hard concessions in her border conflicts may very well be in her
long-term interest, only Israel can make that determination on her own,
without pressure from the United States or coercion by the United
Nations.
“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 12:53PM
Clint's Robo Post Number 5
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 3:13PM
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 12:54PM
Clint's Robo Post Number 14
Oldefarte| 12.4.11 @ 2:59PM
It's astonishing that American Jews continue to politically/financially support Obama for president when it was just reported that the Obama administration has spent $300 million of US taxpayers money in support of Egyptian Muslim political organizations which are in the process of taking over political control of Egypt's government. Doesn't anyone [especially Jews] have the mental capacity to GET IT as to what this administration is in the process of doing? This whole Arab Spring uprising within the ME has been facilitated/promoted by the political power of our government under this administration, and same will futuristically have an extremely detrimental national security effect on our country. Israel will become surrounded within the ME and its destruction probabilities substantially increased, and the futurist chances of more 9/11/01 type attacks in this country will increase exponentially from same. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
martin j smith| 12.4.11 @ 3:09PM
Here is what must happen: There must be during the Presidential campaign and the rest of the Republican Presidential search campaign a total bombardment of Obama's policies including this latest matter in every possible manner. The MSM will lie and distort everything. Let me put it bluntly: Republican Leaders must stand up to the MSM or lose. Its that simple.
Intelligent Design| 12.4.11 @ 5:54PM
The key objectives of both the PA and its Hamas partners are the destruction of Israel and the death of Jews. The majority of individual Palestinians want Israel destroyed. They cheer for terrorists among them who attack Israel. Palestinian children are taught to hate Jews. There have been thousands of rocket and mortar attacks against Israel in the past few years, plus all the terrorist attacks perpetrated by Muslims inside Israel.
Four and a half million pathetic "Palestinian refugees" are on a UN welfare program (UNRWA) which provides them with assistance in housing, education, food, medicine, and cash. They have been on the UN dole for generations, for 60 years, based on the absurd premise that they are entitled to reclaim land in Israel.
The U.S. Congress should cut off aid to the Palestinian/Hamas coalition, and defund the UN program called UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA). If it doesn't, then American taxpayers will continue to fund terrorists with hundreds of millions of dollars per year.
Obama, H. Clinton, and so many others are either blind and ignorant about the facts, or they are totally cynical demagogues when they talk about the "peace process", as if it had legs. Even Republican Senator Rubio claims there can be lasting peace between the Palestinian Muslims and Israel, despite tons of contradictory evidence. His intentions are probably good, but naive. Obama's intentions are sinister. He's a treacherous impostor.
Israel's strategy should be the same as President Reagan's when he referred to the USA versus the USSR: namely, "we win, they lose".
Occam's Tool| 12.4.11 @ 11:00PM
ID: you are Intelligent by Design. Perfectly stated, sir.
martin j smith| 12.5.11 @ 7:44AM
Forget about intentions. We have good and bad but they are both destructive. I shake my head in despair and I fear for this nation. Israel as the canary in the mine so to speak is an indication of our will here at home. There is a lack of effective leadership--in fact what we have is leadershit. There lies the problem.
Bill| 12.5.11 @ 9:58AM
There you go again. The American Spectator is losing all credibility by assigning you to whine about someone elses comments and opinions. Obviously, "Goldstein" is not affliated with anyone from Israel. Enough said.
martin j smith| 12.5.11 @ 10:11AM
Bill I thought you were a jerk and you are. Thank you for affirming that view. And let me say that I am more than 100% positive the feelings are mutual so I thought I would put that out. But that is not my real point. My real point is Bill or whoever you really are--that those readers
who are not Obama or Paul supporters ( same thing ) know what is going on in some posts. Oh and buy the way if you do not like Am Spec why post ? Too many Jews for you ?
Ed| 12.5.11 @ 10:52AM
I don't get the Paul community. The world is smaller than ever and quite unstable due to both economic factors and the big weapons that the bad guys are trying to get. In response, somehow, neutrality and isolationism are an option, even though these policies didn't work even in the last century before there were nukes. Simply claiming an objectively bad event like Iran getting nukes is "neutral" doesn't make it so. Then, of course, we get to the anti-jew obsession which they have.
Clint| 12.5.11 @ 11:28AM
Uh Oh !
Israel Firster Little Eddie plays his dog eared Anti-Jew Card again.
Aaaaand again.
Dr.Ron Paul,
" I would ask Congress for a Declaration of War against Iran, if necessary."
The Tea Party Is Here And In Iowa.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 12:52PM
You're the most brilliant poster here, you know that? Really, one can tell with every robo post & your sorry defence of your blatant hatred for Jews.
tonypal| 12.5.11 @ 4:00PM
Another fellow Israel-Firster. Welcome to the club. Were you at the last meeting? It was great. I saw Amelia Earhart, Jim Morrison and Count Chocula. As usual, the topic of discussion was how to prevent Ron Paul's nomination. That's all we ever talk about.
Kingofthenet| 12.5.11 @ 11:44AM
For The President to take Military action against Iran, he is going to need MASSIVE political cover and Mid-East goodwill to make it even possible. President Obama needs to talk to Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, and DEMAND a signed, final Peace deal with the Palestinians. No matter what it takes, no matter what Israeli needs to sacrifice in land and whatever to get it done, in return the President promises not only a massive Air Strike against Iran, but regime change. It would be a MASSIVE reshaping of the Middle East and will have repercussions for years, but this could solve alot of issues being bold.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 12:50PM
JackWI, it seems as if the Vatican is your's & Clint's country. The largest landowning entity in the world, that has had more peadophiles than NAMBLA could ever HOPE to enlist. And while they ask for more money, they shaft CATHOLIC countries like Haiti. How much aid did the Vatican send?
Jack Pukes:
"We should not back the criminal racist state that denies basic human rights to millions of people."
Yes. They are so "criminal" & "racist" that Arab Israelis are just FLEEING en masse. And so "criminal" & "racist" that they actually allow Muslims serve in the Knessett.
Clint & JackWI are two Jew hating douchebags & well known frauds to everyone on this site. Clint is just the community chew toy who has never contributed anything of substance other than, "I'll kick your ASS!!!" JackWI is a "proud 4-F" who's daddy told him it was better to be a "live coward." He also has claimed that he knows more history than anyone on this site, "including the editors." And while they call all of us who support "Israel Firsters," they espouse doctrines of the Catholic Church, an organization run BY A NATION STATE. I don't personally give a rat's arse by what name either of these 2 fools calls G*d by. But it is SHEER HYPOCRISY for those who profess to be so ferverently Catholic, & cite quotes from current & past Popes (the only one of whom worth a shit was the LAST one), to call those of us who support Israel "Israel Firsters" for doing so.
tonypal| 12.5.11 @ 4:02PM
Better watch out there buddy. Clint might call you a crybaby. I got that one earlier today. By the way, get your decoder ring out. The next Israel-First meeting will be held on ad09trqe tq[aijrf[nqac[uv=q n. We'll be meeting at adf qjw9ru
tonypal| 12.5.11 @ 4:03PM
Hope you got all that.
Con Chef (NB) | 12.5.11 @ 5:02PM
Roger that! Shalom til next time.
The shikse is against the wall. Repeat, the shikse is against the wall!
MikeG| 12.5.11 @ 5:56PM
Clint, Jack, and Conchef deserve each other. Three douchebags.
Nick| 12.5.11 @ 7:08PM
Con Chef (NB),
Please don't include all of us Catholics with those who claim to be, but, are also anti-Semitic. That is not fair.
Also, most of the popes have been great, especially, Pope Pius XII, who was bishop of Rome during WWII. He, personally, saved over 800,000 Jews, and was praised by Jewish leaders when he died.
G-d Bless!
Con Chef (NB) | 12.6.11 @ 8:50AM
I know better than to lump all people of a group together. I was merely pointing out the irony. Clint & Jack remind one of Torquemada. You, not so much...
:-)
Red Phillips | 12.5.11 @ 11:00PM
For some reason this comment keeps getting marked as spam so I'm going to break it up into two parts.
"Ron Paul was unable to answer Pruitt's question as to what alternative means he would use instead of the Patriot Act to combat domestic terrorism ... blah, blah, blah."
Aaron, you know good and well and have long known what Ron Paul's positions on these issues are, so can we please skip the act of feigning outrage every time he says what he has been saying all along?
Red Phillips | 12.5.11 @ 11:04PM
Part II
Had America not had troops in Saudi Arabia and not been seen as siding with Israel then 9/11 would most likely not have happened. Do you disagree with this? As I have pointed out before, you believe that America’s interventionist foreign policy is necessary and good and should be continued IN SPITE OF the hostility it generates. Could we please be intellectually honest about this instead of feigning outrage for rhetorical effect? Thanks.
dave kingman| 1.8.12 @ 8:51PM
Panetta is a Demoncat, a lawyer, and a Clintonite, in addition to having been a politician for the last 30+ years. What more do you need to realize he has no idea of how the real world works and is willing to sit back and "negotiate" until the Iranian nuke lands on his head?