As Jim Antle noted earlier today, Herman Cain has no
intention of withdrawing from the GOP presidential race.
Good for him.
I will reiterate what I said earlier this month. Let the
people decide Herman Cain's fate. If he doesn't fare well in
Iowa or New Hampshire then so be it. Cain can "reassess"
his campaign at that time. No doubt there will be other
candidates who could be in the same boat. So let's leave it in the
hands of Republican voters to render that verdict, not
talk
radio hosts.
I totally agree-in fact let no Candidate on the "Republican
Ticket" withdraw based on smears. Let the voters decide. And I want
to know more from each on the following: Do you understand that
even if you win and even if you win by a landslide there will be no
cooperation with the Socialist-Communist so called Democrat Party.
Do you understand that their goals are exactly diametrically
opposed to yours ? Please comment on that.
W| 11.30.11 @ 5:03PM
Cain should stay in the race and let the primary voters
decide.
Narf| 11.30.11 @ 5:07PM
Of course it's in the hands of voters. Talk radio blather can't
change that. What are you suggesting? That talk radio blatherers
should keep their opinions to themselves? The reason they have talk
radio shows is so they can express their opinions, and they have a
First Amendment right to express their opinion. Voters decide who
wins the nomination, and listeners decide which talk shows
blatherers get to blather.
Don't listen to the talk shows you don't want to hear; if enough
other listeners agree with you then the show's ratings will drop
and the host will lose his job.
Vote for the candidate you want to see elected. If enough other
voters agree with you then your candidate will win.
But don't try to prop up a weak candidate by wishing that people
would stop pointing out his weaknesses. Even assuming that there's
zero truth in any of the accusations, look at how Cain's team has
handled it. He says he'll surround himself with good advisors as
President, but if he can't pick good advisors as a candidate is he
going to suddenly learn how to do that in the Oval Office? If he
got the nomination and Team Obama started throwing all sorts of
things his way, do you want a candidate who responds with the same
ineptness Team Cain has demonstrated so far?
Well, if you do, then that's your right. But don't complain if
others point out the most glaring flaws. It would be like Romney
supporters asking you to please not point out any of Romney's
flip-flops. Well hey, if they don't mind the flip-flops that's
their choice, but they shouldn't whine about people pointing it
out.
Clint| 11.30.11 @ 5:20PM
" With the intense search for a conservative alternative to Mitt
Romney producing popularity “bubbles” for Rick Perry and Herman
Cain, “Who’s next?” has been the recurring question. In an ironic
twist, the consensus answer seems to be: Newt Gingrich.
I say “ironic” because the opposition to Romney has been led by
conservative grassroots writers and activists, as well as groups
like FreedomWorks. Gingrich isn’t much more popular among that
contingent than Romney. In May, when Gingrich sharply criticized
Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan, FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey
reminded National Review that Gingrich had been a serial
offender:
Citing Gingrich’s support of Dede Scozzafava in the 2009
congressional election in New York’s 23rd district, his backing of
Medicare Part D and TARP, and his commercial with Nancy Pelosi
about climate change, Armey observes that “Newt entered the race
with serious ground to make up with these 2 million Tea Party
activists.”…
Brendan Steinhauser, director of Federal and State Campaigns for
FreedomWorks, reports that the Tea Partiers he’s talked to are
“irate” at Gingrich… “I never met a single Tea Party activist that
supported Newt Gingrich for president,” he adds."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Narf| 11.30.11 @ 5:37PM
Back in the land of reality, recent polls show voters who
identify themselves with the Tea Party coalescing around
Gingrich. http://americanresearchgroup.c.....ry/rep/ia/
Sample Dates: November 17-23, 2011 A new American Research Group survey in Iowa finds Newt
Gingrich leading the Republican presidential field among likely
caucus goers with 27%, followed by Mitt Romney at 20% and Ron Paul
at 16%. Key finding: Tea Party support has coalesced around
Gingrich, from 13% in September compared to 42% now.
You can now cite the poll that shows Ron Paul in front if you
want. Do you know the one I mean? The one that was funded by a PAC
whose purpose is to promote Ron Paul? The one that had to bring in
Democrats in order to boost Paul's numbers? I'm sure you've got the
link handy.
Clint| 11.30.11 @ 5:57PM
"PAC-sponsored poll of Iowa GOP caucus goers shows Paul and Cain
in the lead
A poll on Monday of Iowa likely GOP caucusgoers paid for by a
political action committee that supports presidential candidate Ron
Paul shows Paul in the lead, tied with Herman Cain at 22
percent.
Newt Gingrich is next at 21 percent, and Mitt Romney’s in fourth
at 17 percent, according to the automated telephone poll taken Nov.
21"
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Narf| 11.30.11 @ 7:16PM
Yeah that's the one, only last time you included the paragraph
explaining that they got those numbers by including Democrats in
the polling sample. Awkward.
It's still kind of pathetic when you have to go to a poll paid
for by a Ron Paul PAC in order to find numbers that look good for
Ron Paul. The Bachmann campaign is touting another poll that shows
Bachmann rising to second place in Iowa. Do you understand why
nobody takes these sorts of numbers seriously?
Meanwhile in polls not paid for by Team Paul, Paul comes in
fifth in Florida with 4%, tied with Bachmann and "none of the
above." And fourth in Iowa in another poll not paid for by Team
Paul. Fourth in a SC poll not paid for by Team Paul. Etc. etc.
etc.
Nationally the most recent polls from Fox, Gallup, Quinnipiac
and CNN all have Ron Paul mired in the single digits, tied with
Perry but with Perry falling Ron Paul has a shot at moving from
fifth place to fourth. They just need to include some Democrats in
those polls and then Ron Paul would look a lot better.
John| 11.30.11 @ 5:42PM
Herman Cain is DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 11.30.11 @ 5:43PM
" Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) is going after former House Speaker
Newt Gingrich in a new web ad running on conservative sites in Iowa
and across the country. The hard-hitting spot highlights Gingrich’s
profits from Freddie Mac and the health-care industry, his support
for an individual health-care mandate, and his general shifts in
positions over the years."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Jane| 11.30.11 @ 8:21PM
Though he's black he's a sharp businessman and his wife is kinda
cute. If these other women stories prove false I might vote for
him.
John| 11.30.11 @ 8:45PM
Cain never had a train in the first place, touring the country
and selling books, makes Cain nothing more than a clown.
talkradio55| 11.30.11 @ 9:45PM
Interesting that Cain gets all the bellyaching from crybabies,
telling him to go away while candidates like Huntsman and Santorum
have never broken out of the margin of error are not. Let the
voters decide and so far, the voters still have Cain in third
place. He doesn't have to abandon the race to placate a bunch of
whiners who want Romney but aren't honest enough to say so.
And as for this "clown" business from some people, it's a
disgrace that the only "serious" candidates are the ones that will
do whatever the New York Times tells 'em. If everyone who makes a
gaffe is "a clown", then no one is qualified to be president. I'd
like to see all these people telling Cain to go home to see how
long they would last if people who were allegedly on the Right
piled on worse than the way they criticize Obamachev.
Soljerblue| 12.1.11 @ 7:17PM
Mr. Cain -- tell the whiners, the RINOS, the Romneyite
Republicans, the false witness accusers in the Lamestream Media to
stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Hang in there, Herman, the
bedwetters won't make the decision -- we will.
martin j smith| 11.30.11 @ 4:46PM
I totally agree-in fact let no Candidate on the "Republican Ticket" withdraw based on smears. Let the voters decide. And I want to know more from each on the following: Do you understand that even if you win and even if you win by a landslide there will be no cooperation with the Socialist-Communist so called Democrat Party. Do you understand that their goals are exactly diametrically opposed to yours ? Please comment on that.
W| 11.30.11 @ 5:03PM
Cain should stay in the race and let the primary voters decide.
Narf| 11.30.11 @ 5:07PM
Of course it's in the hands of voters. Talk radio blather can't change that. What are you suggesting? That talk radio blatherers should keep their opinions to themselves? The reason they have talk radio shows is so they can express their opinions, and they have a First Amendment right to express their opinion. Voters decide who wins the nomination, and listeners decide which talk shows blatherers get to blather.
Don't listen to the talk shows you don't want to hear; if enough other listeners agree with you then the show's ratings will drop and the host will lose his job.
Vote for the candidate you want to see elected. If enough other voters agree with you then your candidate will win.
But don't try to prop up a weak candidate by wishing that people would stop pointing out his weaknesses. Even assuming that there's zero truth in any of the accusations, look at how Cain's team has handled it. He says he'll surround himself with good advisors as President, but if he can't pick good advisors as a candidate is he going to suddenly learn how to do that in the Oval Office? If he got the nomination and Team Obama started throwing all sorts of things his way, do you want a candidate who responds with the same ineptness Team Cain has demonstrated so far?
Well, if you do, then that's your right. But don't complain if others point out the most glaring flaws. It would be like Romney supporters asking you to please not point out any of Romney's flip-flops. Well hey, if they don't mind the flip-flops that's their choice, but they shouldn't whine about people pointing it out.
Clint| 11.30.11 @ 5:20PM
" With the intense search for a conservative alternative to Mitt Romney producing popularity “bubbles” for Rick Perry and Herman Cain, “Who’s next?” has been the recurring question. In an ironic twist, the consensus answer seems to be: Newt Gingrich.
I say “ironic” because the opposition to Romney has been led by conservative grassroots writers and activists, as well as groups like FreedomWorks. Gingrich isn’t much more popular among that contingent than Romney. In May, when Gingrich sharply criticized Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan, FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey reminded National Review that Gingrich had been a serial offender:
Citing Gingrich’s support of Dede Scozzafava in the 2009 congressional election in New York’s 23rd district, his backing of Medicare Part D and TARP, and his commercial with Nancy Pelosi about climate change, Armey observes that “Newt entered the race with serious ground to make up with these 2 million Tea Party activists.”…
Brendan Steinhauser, director of Federal and State Campaigns for FreedomWorks, reports that the Tea Partiers he’s talked to are “irate” at Gingrich… “I never met a single Tea Party activist that supported Newt Gingrich for president,” he adds."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Narf| 11.30.11 @ 5:37PM
Back in the land of reality, recent polls show voters who identify themselves with the Tea Party coalescing around Gingrich.
http://americanresearchgroup.c.....ry/rep/ia/
Sample Dates: November 17-23, 2011
A new American Research Group survey in Iowa finds Newt Gingrich leading the Republican presidential field among likely caucus goers with 27%, followed by Mitt Romney at 20% and Ron Paul at 16%. Key finding: Tea Party support has coalesced around Gingrich, from 13% in September compared to 42% now.
You can now cite the poll that shows Ron Paul in front if you want. Do you know the one I mean? The one that was funded by a PAC whose purpose is to promote Ron Paul? The one that had to bring in Democrats in order to boost Paul's numbers? I'm sure you've got the link handy.
Clint| 11.30.11 @ 5:57PM
"PAC-sponsored poll of Iowa GOP caucus goers shows Paul and Cain in the lead
A poll on Monday of Iowa likely GOP caucusgoers paid for by a political action committee that supports presidential candidate Ron Paul shows Paul in the lead, tied with Herman Cain at 22 percent.
Newt Gingrich is next at 21 percent, and Mitt Romney’s in fourth at 17 percent, according to the automated telephone poll taken Nov. 21"
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Narf| 11.30.11 @ 7:16PM
Yeah that's the one, only last time you included the paragraph explaining that they got those numbers by including Democrats in the polling sample. Awkward.
It's still kind of pathetic when you have to go to a poll paid for by a Ron Paul PAC in order to find numbers that look good for Ron Paul. The Bachmann campaign is touting another poll that shows Bachmann rising to second place in Iowa. Do you understand why nobody takes these sorts of numbers seriously?
Meanwhile in polls not paid for by Team Paul, Paul comes in fifth in Florida with 4%, tied with Bachmann and "none of the above." And fourth in Iowa in another poll not paid for by Team Paul. Fourth in a SC poll not paid for by Team Paul. Etc. etc. etc.
Nationally the most recent polls from Fox, Gallup, Quinnipiac and CNN all have Ron Paul mired in the single digits, tied with Perry but with Perry falling Ron Paul has a shot at moving from fifth place to fourth. They just need to include some Democrats in those polls and then Ron Paul would look a lot better.
John| 11.30.11 @ 5:42PM
Herman Cain is DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 11.30.11 @ 5:43PM
" Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) is going after former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in a new web ad running on conservative sites in Iowa and across the country. The hard-hitting spot highlights Gingrich’s profits from Freddie Mac and the health-care industry, his support for an individual health-care mandate, and his general shifts in positions over the years."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Jane| 11.30.11 @ 8:21PM
Though he's black he's a sharp businessman and his wife is kinda cute. If these other women stories prove false I might vote for him.
John| 11.30.11 @ 8:45PM
Cain never had a train in the first place, touring the country and selling books, makes Cain nothing more than a clown.
talkradio55| 11.30.11 @ 9:45PM
Interesting that Cain gets all the bellyaching from crybabies, telling him to go away while candidates like Huntsman and Santorum have never broken out of the margin of error are not. Let the voters decide and so far, the voters still have Cain in third place. He doesn't have to abandon the race to placate a bunch of whiners who want Romney but aren't honest enough to say so.
And as for this "clown" business from some people, it's a disgrace that the only "serious" candidates are the ones that will do whatever the New York Times tells 'em. If everyone who makes a gaffe is "a clown", then no one is qualified to be president. I'd like to see all these people telling Cain to go home to see how long they would last if people who were allegedly on the Right piled on worse than the way they criticize Obamachev.
Soljerblue| 12.1.11 @ 7:17PM
Mr. Cain -- tell the whiners, the RINOS, the Romneyite Republicans, the false witness accusers in the Lamestream Media to stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Hang in there, Herman, the bedwetters won't make the decision -- we will.