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The Spectacle Blog
Two new national polls out today show Newt Gingrich surging as Herman Cain fades. First, the CNN/ORC poll results; taken November 11-13, it shows Gingrich in second behind Romney — a statistical dead heat. The full results, with last month’s number is parentheses (the previous poll was taken October 14-16):
Romney 24% (26%)
Gingrich 22% (8%)
Cain 14% (25%)
Perry 12% (13%)
Paul 8% (9%)
Bachmann 6% (6%)
Huntsman 3% (1%)
Santorum 3% (2%)
Next, the new PPP poll, taken November 10-13, which shows Gingrich in first place outright, and a less pronounced fall for Cain; results from last month (taken October 7-10) in parentheses:
Newt Gingrich 28% (15%)
Herman Cain 25% (30%)
Mitt Romney 18% (22%)
Rick Perry 6% (14%)
Ron Paul 5% (5%)
Michele Bachmann 5% (5%)
Jon Huntsman 3% (2%)
Rick Santorum 1% (1%)
Gary Johnson 1% (0%)
The PPP poll is probably a somewhat better sample of likely primary voters; PPP polled registered voters, whereas CNN polled adults and asked the GOP primary question of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. But both show an unmistakable trend, at least at the national level (we’ll have to wait to see how similar the picture is in early primary/caucus state polls): Gingrich has, for the moment, gained a foothold in the top tier.
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Casey Abell| 11.14.11 @ 2:25PM
Lazy, so I'll crosspost my comment from NRO...
After all the latest numbers are folded into the RCP averages, the results:
Romney 22.0
Cain 21.3
Gingrich 17.9
Perry 9.9
Paul 7.3
Bachmann 4.1
Santorum 1.9
Huntsman 1.3
Recent trends are down for Romney and Cain, with Cain falling really fast. Gingrich is climbing very quickly. Everybody else is flatlining over the past few weeks.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....-1452.html
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 3:24PM
Look at the graph on that page. Paul, Santorum and Huntsman have NEVER broken 10%. Bachmann was only briefly above 10%.
Is it a coincidence that these four are the ones who are weak on defense? Bachmann and Santorum think we should go soft on Pakistan, Huntsman is a liberal, and Ron Paul would say that if North Korea wants to sell nukes to Al Qaeda it's none of our business and the free market should set the price.
The weaknesses of Cain and Perry have become evident, and they're sinking. Newt has been thoroughly vetted and if someone talks about his "baggage" they're stuck in the 80's. It's old news. Newt's the best chance at doing better than eight years of Romney.
Lesser Weevil| 11.14.11 @ 3:30PM
No, the 80's is when Newt still looked fresh and effective. The baggage, sadly, piled up later.
Occam's Tool| 11.14.11 @ 3:38PM
Bachmann and Santorum weak on Pakistan? I don't think so.
But your overall point: that weak FP=disasterous polls, is correct.
Occam's Tool| 11.14.11 @ 3:39PM
Sorry, "disastrous." Damn.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.14.11 @ 4:29PM
Fat fingers (smile)
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 3:47PM
Bachmann and Santorum both took the position that we should play nice with Pakistan because Pakistan has nukes. That would send a message to the world that if you want to actively work against American interests and have us sending you money and treating you like an ally at the same time, just do like Pakistan and nuke up. Shelter our enemies all you want, we'll treat you like an ally if you have nukes.
Newt got this one right.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:09PM
Gingrich Is a TARPSTER.
We Are Being Set Up By RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges.
These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Jack in Wi| 11.14.11 @ 4:09PM
I predicted weeks ago that Newt would be the next one puffed. That was weeks ago when I predicted that Herman Cain was history.
Newt is Mr Nancy Peolosi.
Mr Three failed marriages with 2 messy divorces.
Mr Young flighty wife.
Mr. Six chins.
Mr. Blackmailed and rolled by Clinton over his serial adultry,
Mr. dumped as Speaker because he was a windbag and was ineffective.
Mr. hated by most of the American population and is totally unelectable.
Mr Chickenhawk pushing for war when vast majorities of the American population want no more wars.
Mr endlless shill and flunky for Israel. His second wife was paid flack for an Israeli front group.
Mr Someone who can't manage his account with Tiffany and company. How is he going to balance the budget?
Mr Consultant, who got 300,000 dollars from Fannie Mae. To supliment his lavish Federal pension.
Mr Who has much more baggage then sank on the Titanic. This is just the tip of the iceberg on Newt. I am too busy to waste more time today.
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 4:29PM
And yet in spite of all those flaws Newt is STILL attracting much more support from Republicans than Ron Paul.
Cain weathers a media storm of sexual harassment charges and his 999 plan has morphed into 909 and then back to 999 and his foreign policy ignorance embarrasses him repeatedly ... and he's STILL got several times as many Republicans supporting him compared to Ron Paul.
Perry's campaign collapses around him and at it's current low point he's STILL ahead of Paul.
Sucks to be a Ron Paul supporter.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:07PM
The RINO-CINO Gingrich Endorsed Dede Scoozafava.
Scozzafava is an abortion rights advocate who favors gay marriage. It would be one thing if Scozzafava balanced that social liberalism with fiscal conservatism. But as a state assemblywoman, she voted for massive tax increases, Democratic budgets and a $180 million state bank bailout. She also supported the trillion-dollar federal stimulus package — which every House Republican voted against.
Scozzafava’s husband is a leading upstate New York union organizer. She supports the federal “card-check” legislation that would massively boost union rolls — and Democratic voting rolls — at the expense of rank-and-file workers’ free choice. And for that matter, at the expense of Republican electoral prospects. Card check is the key to a Democratic majority in perpetuity. Big Labor bosses have said as much.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 5:00PM
Santorum is "weak on defense?" Are you drunk? Santorum's whole campaign and whole gig since he has been out of office has been to try to carve out a niche for himself as the most alarmist and belligerent chest thumping interventionists around. Santorum is the clown who warned us of the dire Venezuelan menace.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:18PM
Remember The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Did Not Win A Single Primary Until Super Tuesday.
Then Ask Yourself,Which Republican Candidate Has The Most Support Among Independents.
Alabama
Arizona (Semi-closed, with primaries open only to unaffiliated or unrepresented voters, except for the Libertarian primary.)
Arkansas
Georgia
Hawaii (Open primary for state, local, and congressional races; caucus system for presidential races.)
Idaho
Indiana
Massachusetts (All races' primaries open for "unenrolled"/unaffiliated voters only)
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
North Dakota
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wisconsin
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Pbot| 11.14.11 @ 8:24PM
LOL! Sucks to be a Paul supporter.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:34PM
Apparently, You Suck Bibi's Banana Israel Firster BibiBot.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 7:07PM
Ron Paul Polls at 38% in ConservativeHQ.com's GOP Presidential Straw Poll
Dr, Ron Paul: 38 Percent
Herman Cain: 25 Percent
Newt Gingrich: 22 Percent
Mitt Romney: 2 Percent
http://www.conservativehq.com/.....n-paul-pol
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 7:09PM
Try This One.
http://www.conservativehq.com/.....straw-poll
Pbot| 11.14.11 @ 8:02PM
Pathetic. Ron Paul has to stuff ballot boxes on meaningless straw polls because in real polls asking Republicans voters who they want for the Republican nominee he's stuck down around 5% with the other losers.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:32PM
" LAKE JACKSON, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- In a new Harris Poll, 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul beats President Obama 51 percent to 49 percent in a general election race.
“This is yet another poll that clearly proves how competitive Ron Paul is against the sitting President,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton. “Dr. Paul is making strides, affirming that the American people are looking for conviction instead of the typical status quo rhetoric being offered by establishment candidates.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Pbot| 11.14.11 @ 8:51PM
Give people a choice between two weak candidates and they might as well flip a coin, so you end up close to 50/50.
Put a weak candidate like Ron Paul up against some real Conservatives in polls for the Republican nominee ... and he gets 5%. Most probably OWS types leaching off of the nearest Starbucks wifi and defecating on police cars when they aren't waging a copy/paste campaign for Ron Paul.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:59PM
You Israel Firster BibiBot Phoney Conservatives Wouldn't Know Real Conservative Foreign Policy If It Jumped Up & Bit Ya.
Read George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, The Old Right & Get Back To Us.
" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"
William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 7:30PM
With the intense search for a conservative alternative to Mitt Romney producing popularity “bubbles” for Rick Perry and Herman Cain, “Who’s next?” has been the recurring question. In an ironic twist, the consensus answer seems to be: Newt Gingrich.
I say “ironic” because the opposition to Romney has been led by conservative grassroots writers and activists, as well as groups like FreedomWorks. Gingrich isn’t much more popular among that contingent than Romney. In May, when Gingrich sharply criticized Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan, FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey reminded National Review that Gingrich had been a serial offender:
Citing Gingrich’s support of Dede Scozzafava in the 2009 congressional election in New York’s 23rd district, his backing of Medicare Part D and TARP, and his commercial with Nancy Pelosi about climate change, Armey observes that “Newt entered the race with serious ground to make up with these 2 million Tea Party activists.”…
Brendan Steinhauser, director of Federal and State Campaigns for FreedomWorks, reports that the Tea Partiers he’s talked to are “irate” at Gingrich… “I never met a single Tea Party activist that supported Newt Gingrich for president,” he adds.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Ice Cream Is Cheap (Fact)| 11.14.11 @ 2:29PM
Newt is the last chance to avoid Romney. It's Gingrich or garbage. The only thing that could stop Newt from winning against Obama would be a third party splitting the Conservative vote. The most likely third party candidate is Ron Paul but he mostly appeals to the OWS slacker types so he'll take more votes away from Obama than from the Republican nominee.
Lesser Weevil| 11.14.11 @ 3:35PM
As a lifelong conservative, I might just barely be able to choke down Romney, but I don't think I could swallow Newt. I'd probably cast a protest vote and pray that the Republic survives for four more years.
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 3:48PM
Why? Because Newt's personal life has been "messy" in the past? Look at his policies, look at how he'd govern, and tell me you wouldn't rather have him than Romney.
Lesser Weevil| 11.14.11 @ 4:54PM
The personal stuff is a turnoff, but it is not decisive. I just think that Newt is a a highly unreliable advocate for conservative causes and a bad fit for the job.
I envision a Romney presidency as the second coming of Bush Sr.--a smooth, vapid administration that enervates the GOP and frustrates conservatives while leaving the nation drifting toward the falls. President Newt could be far worse. I'd expect an erratic, high-drama presidency that leaves conservatism in a shambles. Neither man is a conservative, but if I have to pick, I'll take the one who is a steady manager.
TSquared| 11.14.11 @ 2:54PM
Iowa: Cain 20, Gingrich 19, Romney 14
11/14/2011
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....68298.html
Bill| 11.14.11 @ 2:59PM
Herman Cain is guilty as charged. He refused to take the lie detector test because he knew he would have failed the test and did not want to get caught in public. He is a liar and disgrace political figure. He is going down with his nephew, Obama.
Bill| 11.14.11 @ 3:02PM
Gov. Rick Perry will be the first choice to be the GOP nominee, I 'll support Newt as a VP, but not be the POTUS, Newt has some extramarital issues that are troublesome. Herman Cain is a RINO and Mitt is a flip-flopper. Michelle Bachmann will be the Treasury secretary or AG. No chance for Cain and Mitt.
RJ| 11.14.11 @ 3:15PM
We are facing a dire time in our country's history. While I don't like Newt's "extramarital issues," we are voting for a president, not a spouse. No one knows the issues like Newt. Perry was my first choice too, but he hasn't shown the depth of knowledge on the issues in the debates. I am still open to listening to him. But if we lose the election, I would rather lose because the American people did not accept a clearly stated choice for a new direction in reforming the government, rather than our candidate being unable to communicate his message to voters.
Bill| 11.14.11 @ 3:39PM
Gov Rick Perry has been governing the state of Texas for more than 10 years, has been elected 3 times as a governor, he is a solid conservative and has a proven record, unlike Herman Cain, Mitt, or Newt. He is the only sitting governor who can unite the conservatives and defeat Obama in a landslide. Rick Perry is invincible.
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 4:00PM
Perry somehow managed to get elected three times while avoiding debates almost entirely. Texas is such a conservative state he could get away with that, and it's clear now why he worked so hard to avoid that kind of scrutiny.
As for uniting conservatives? I don't need to tell you all the issues on which his actions have raised conservative eyebrows. This was in a conservative state where NONE of those things were forced on him. Not one. He did those things even when he would have been better off politically not to do them. Those are the things that give you real glimpses into his thinking.
Imagine how many more of those kinds of things he'd have done if he were a blue state governor, or a Democrat. In fact he was a Democrat, as I'm sure you know, up until 1989. He was the kind of Democrat who could be counted on to vote for huge tax increases and to support Al Gore's campaign.
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 3:32PM
Perry had his shot and blew it. He's got enough money to stay in the race but just like Michelle he's fallen back into the single digits and he's not going to climb out of that hole. He'll most likely give another speech sounding like he's loopy on painkillers or he'll blow another debate and that will put a merciful end to it.
You say there's no chance for Mitt as if you don't realize that he's the frontrunner and the more the other candidates split the Conservative vote the better his chances are. He could get the nomination and he could win the election, and he WILL get the nomination (and win the election) if Conservatives splinter into supporting failed flash in the pan candidacies like Cain and Bachmann and Perry.
RJ| 11.14.11 @ 4:34PM
Another factor in favor of Newt. We know the mass media will be in full-whore mode to re-elect Obama. Ronald Reagan was the last GOP nominee with the skill to effectively challenge the media and get his point across to the public. Only Newt has shown that ability this year. It is a critical qualification to have. I don't think a Republican stands a chance without it.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:00PM
Gingrich Feels the Heat for Appearing in Global Warming Ad With Pelosi
Every presidential candidate is going to come into the 2012 race with baggage. But Newt Gingrich has what, for primary voters, could be a doozy in his closet -- three years ago, he cut an ad with Nancy Pelosi for Al Gore's climate change group.
The ad, in which Gingrich and Pelosi don awkward smiles while talking about clean-energy solutions, is coming back to haunt him, along with other statements he's made about climate change."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
DRed| 11.14.11 @ 3:05PM
I'm not Mitt Romney. Would you guys consider voting for me?
Paul Bot| 11.14.11 @ 3:21PM
That is so gay.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 9:01PM
More Israel Firster Queer Talk.
Paul Bot | 11.14.11 @ 10:52PM
My candidates have not spent any time in a motel with Bruno. I wish you could say the same. That is so gay.
Clint| 11.15.11 @ 7:00AM
You Spent Time In The Closet With Bibi.
That's So Queer.
Bumr50| 11.14.11 @ 3:20PM
Cain's still tops in Iowa, will be there tomorrow, and is FAR from fading.
Your use of a CNN poll is very telling.
You're probably one of those people that was saying while Cain was on top "polls don't mean much."
Roll Cain!!
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 3:43PM
LOL! Cain already GOT rolled. I don't mean the accusers either. His web site says he still wants a national sales tax so I guess he went from 999 to 909 and back to 999. His dismal foreign policy ignorance looked especially bad in the last debate. His supporters are reminding me more and more of Ron Paul's supporters.
Occam's Tool| 11.14.11 @ 3:37PM
My goodness, where are the Paulbots?
Newt is a brilliant political strategist and debater, who can also be reasoned with.
I'm just happy to see Paul having his nuts crushed despite his "money bombs."
It's interesting to note that Bibi Netanyahu is more popular than Paul is in the US.
Paul Bot| 11.14.11 @ 4:13PM
Top tier candidates Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman have been ripped off again.
Paul Bott| 11.14.11 @ 4:56PM
Doctor Ron Paul needs say that if we are not going to try to stop countries from getting nuclear bombs and missiles and we are not going to project power beyond our borders then
(a) there will be an international market for nuclear bombs and missiles, and
(b) America will have thousands of nuclear bombs and missiles that we will no longer need to stockpile, and
(c) these nuclear bombs and missiles are therefore an asset that we can sell off to pay down the debt and get our economic situation straightened out. Our missiles and bombs are much higher in quality than those of China so our will command higher prices.
I am constantly amazed at how the simple and consistent principles of Doctor Paul come together so beautifully. Doctor Paul is truly amazing and the only hope for civilization as we know it. He will solve our national security problems and our economic problems in his first term, and then his son Rand can take over from there.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:52PM
Dr. Ron Paul Has Stated, " I Will Ask Congress To Declare War On Iran, If Necessary "
Gee, A Presidential Candidate Wants To Abide By The Constitution.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Paul Bot | 11.14.11 @ 10:56PM
This is a Milo Minderbinder type of solution. Maybe we can bomb our own cities for lets say a trillion for each city. There will be a lot of windows to fix after it is all over.
Paul Bott| 11.14.11 @ 11:11PM
That's a disgusting comment. Bomb our own cities?
We could auction off the bombing of cities in other countries, though. Some people would see this as a bad idea, but if it's a bad idea then there won't be a market for the product. That's the nice thing about relying on the marketplace rather than having to think about complicated moral and pragmatic issues.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 7:24PM
" LAKE JACKSON, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- In a new Harris Poll, 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul beats President Obama 51 percent to 49 percent in a general election race.
“This is yet another poll that clearly proves how competitive Ron Paul is against the sitting President,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton. “Dr. Paul is making strides, affirming that the American people are looking for conviction instead of the typical status quo rhetoric being offered by establishment candidates.”
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 7:15PM
" Top Tier: Ron Paul Polls Third In Three Early Voting States
GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is polling in third in the key early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, according to a new CNN/Time poll released yesterday.
The Texas Congressman attracted 12% in telephone polls with potential voters in all three states.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 7:26PM
Ron Paul Polls at 38% in ConservativeHQ.com's GOP Presidential Straw Poll
Dr, Ron Paul: 38 Percent
Herman Cain: 25 Percent
Newt Gingrich: 22 Percent
Mitt Romney: 2 Percent
http://www.conservativehq.com/.....straw-poll
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Pbot| 11.14.11 @ 8:03PM
It must really suck to be supporting a candidate when you have to pretend to be excited that your candidate comes in no better than THIRD and can't break out of the single digits against weak candidates like Cain and Perry.
Clint| 11.14.11 @ 8:36PM
You Israel Firster BibiBots Know All About Sucking.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Bill| 11.14.11 @ 3:41PM
I like Newt but he cannot close the deal with a crazy liberal like, Obama. we need a solid conservative like Gov. Rick Perry, who will destroy the liberals for good.
Newtonian| 11.14.11 @ 4:38PM
That makes no sense at all. Perry is so unable to express himself without a prepared text that he had to avoid debates in Texas. Now that we've seen his debate performance so far it's clear why he dodged debates. That might work in a conservative state but how is he going to "destroy liberals" if he can't handle a series of debates against Obama?
Newt would have NO trouble in a debate with Obama. Newt is intelligent, articulate and conservative. Mitt gives you two of those three. Cain gives you one. Perry gives you one or two, but if you look at his history of supporting un-conservative things nobody forced him to support and his history as a tax-and-spend Democrat before that, the best you can say for him is that he's more conservative than Huntsman, Paul or Romney but that's not saying much.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 5:54PM
Newtonian, are you trying to sound like an idiot? Newt is not now, never has been and never will be a conservative. He is a free-market futurist. His intellectual guide is Toffler, not Burke.
Bill| 11.14.11 @ 3:45PM
Newt is good when he is in the stage but will fumble in public. He has a troublesome martial life which may spoil his chance to be the GOP nominee. He will make a good VP, with Gov. rick Perry is to the President.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.14.11 @ 4:40PM
Hey folks,
I have an idea. Vote for Rick Perry in the primaries...and screw debating with Obama at all.
What's to debate anyway?
Obama's a communist and Perry hews to our constitution.
In a one on one...Perry would score a knockout in round one. Perry just has a hard time beating up on fellow conservatives/Republicans.
It is time to decide, folks...freedom or serfdom. Get your heads out.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 5:18PM
Newt is not a conservative. Newt is a policy wonk. Policy wonkery is not consistent with conservatism because most "policy" is inherently inconsistent with limited government conservatism. Instead, strictly following the Constitution and therefore vetoing most legislation would be consistent with conservatism. Vetoing unconstitutional legislation does not require policy wonkery. It requires an understanding of history and original intent. There is only one candidate who would consistently govern by assessing original intent and vetoing legislation that doesn’t pass muster, and everyone on this board knows who that candidate is.
Interested Conservative| 11.14.11 @ 5:31PM
Sure, it's Gov. Johnson, but he couldn't even overcome Rep. Paul's interesting foreign policy views, if those views constitute a "policy". At least Newt accomplishes that.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 5:40PM
Johnson? Yeah right.
Interested Conservative| 11.14.11 @ 5:57PM
If to "consistently govern" is your standard, Rep. Paul doesn't even qualify. He's never governed, just legislated. Big difference.
Does Gov. Johnson matter in this race? No. That's why Newt is the current alternative, even though all of them have learned from Sen. McCain that you still need Paul supporters to win.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 6:14PM
I believe I said "would consistently govern" which indicates the present tense if elected President, but I disagree with your premise. Legislating is part of the act of governing. At least in our system you can’t govern without legislating. Since I imply that the most important function a truly conservative President would do is veto unconstitutional legislation, then a history of being in the legislature and voting against ALL unconstitutional legislation is pretty good preparation for that the way I see it.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 6:16PM
"Legislating is part of the act of governing."
It would probably be clearer to say part of the process of governing.
Red Phillips | 11.14.11 @ 6:17PM
Oops ... and I mean future tense. Long day obviously.
Bob| 11.14.11 @ 5:39PM
Well now the Bum of the Month Club has a new CEO Newt Gangrene. Disgraced former Congressman, Speaker of the Blouse, cheats on his concubines including sick ones, hates blacks, despises homosexuals; current wife is a kook and looks like one, disciple of the Pope and just a really swell guy.
Simon Templar| 11.14.11 @ 6:42PM
And then there is our troll, Bob. Troll of the month sputtering the latest smarmy, shallow diatribe about another conservative candidate, spouting out old and tiring lies rewarmed like a 20 year old can of soup, smelly, rotten, putrid, and useless and offering nothing new or of substance but cheap, name calling, slanderous and offensive accusations signifying nothing worth reading or responding to....
Proud Mormon| 11.14.11 @ 7:07PM
Bob has a way with words but Newt is Catholic, he did cheat on his first two wives and he did resign from Congress under dubious circumstances. All campaign issues in a general election. Mitt on the other is a loving husband and father all these years therefore no campaign issues on his home front.
Bay Stater| 11.14.11 @ 7:25PM
So why did you read his post and respond to it. You're not making any sense.
Interested Conservative| 11.14.11 @ 5:59PM
You covered the waterfront there Bob, except you omitted the animals. You know he loves animals?
Simon Templar| 11.14.11 @ 6:36PM
Polls? Which one? By whom? Who gives a frickin rats ass. So, what do they say, at the very least? Cain, Gingrich, and Romney right now are very popular. Since Cain and Gingrich are closer in political sense, the majority do not favor Romney.
That is about it. Can we move on?
Paul Bot | 11.14.11 @ 10:59PM
Top tier candidates Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman polled well in New Guinea and parts of Botswana. This has been taken as a very positive sign for Paul supporters.
bluecollarbytes| 11.14.11 @ 11:06PM
The right is never satisfied with a candidate like the left is. Even when Newt takes the nomination, there will be whining, senseless by then.
This time around it would be nice to flex all available muscle (votes) in defeating Obamagenda. We could still squabble with a pres. Newt.
John B| 11.15.11 @ 12:30AM
This whole Republican debate thing is a mess. It has become a comedy skit, and there are 13 more of these fiascos. Can't someone in charge step up and stop this before it gets even worse. Every debate just shows what a weak field the Republicans have. Give the thing to Romney and get it over with. He may be as liberal as Obama, but at least he will be able to get some things done and will be able to work with the Democrats.
Tim the Enchanter| 11.15.11 @ 10:42AM
You're kidding, right? The Demoncrats aren't interested in working with anyone. They're interested in dictating. Period.
LC JB | 11.16.11 @ 10:11AM
Is that ever right ! We can already see their platform. Don't negotiate, walk away from the table and blame Republicans for not debating in good faith. Ogabe uses this approach as well, liberals will NEVER accept responsibility for themselves. They can act like children and blame the adults for their poor behavior.
Hook| 11.16.11 @ 1:21PM
It will be Newt or Romney and both will win. Someone said Paul had a chance. His chances are ZERO. He has cultlike following but is a total isolationist and I think he is 76 years old.