With respect to the banks that are too big to fail, you know
today we’ve got, as I mentioned earlier, six institutions that are
equal to 60, 65 percent of our GDP, $9.4 trillion. They have an
implied guarantee by the taxpayers that they will be protected.
That’s not fair, that’s not right for the taxpayers.
HARWOOD: So you break them up?
HUNTSMAN: I say we need to right-size them. I say, in the 1990s,
you had Goldman Sachs, for example. That was $200 billion in size.
By 2008, it had grown to $1.1 trillion in size. Was that good for
the people of this country, or —
HARWOOD: Well, how would you accomplish that? How would you
right-size that?
(CROSSTALK)
HUNTSMAN: I think we ought to set up some sort of fund. I think
we ought to charge some sort of fee from the banks that mitigates
the risk that otherwise the taxpayers are carrying. There has got
to be something that takes the risk from the taxpayers off the
table so that these institutions don’t go forward with this implied
assumption that we’re going to bail them out at the end of the day.
That’s not right, and it’s not fair for the taxpayers of this
country.
Huntsman has drawn some
favorable attention for his populist proposals on the problem
of too big to fail banks. He wants to implement a size tax on
banks, in order to disincentize banks from growing beyond a certain
point and to recompense taxpayers for, unwillingly, assuming the
risk of bailing them out. Such a tax, though, would only work
against the incentives created by the Dodd-Frank financial
regulation bill, which actually subsidizes banks that are too big
to fail.
Dodd-Frank
mandates that regulators label any bank with over $50 billion
in assets as “systemically important financial institutions”
and regulate it more tightly. In other words, those banks are
acknowledged by the government as too big to fail. The bill is also
supposed to include mechanisms to ensure that such companies don’t
receive bailouts, but those measures are based on regulators’
discretion and thus will probably fail when push comes to shove.
The result is systemically imprtant financial institutions enjoy an
implicit subsidy: the market will perceive them as backed by the
government even if the feds don’t say as much, meaning they will be
able to raise debt and capital more cheaply than smaller banks
will. In other words, the banks have the same advantages that
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did before the financial
crisis.
So if Huntsman wants to penalize banks that are too big to fail,
the first step is getting rid of the implicit subsidy provided to
them by the government through Dodd-Frank.
Huntsman has acknowledged the problem posed by Dodd-Frank in
other venues. Ideas for solving the problem of too big to fail
are well and good, but they are merely academic without addressing
the distortions created by Dodd-Frank. Hopefully the Republican
candidates will get as much time to talk about Dodd-Frank in future
debates as they do, for instance, Obamacare.
How about reinstituting depression era reforms that were
rescinded. The first step would be to separate trading from banking
by mandating spin offs. Then get rid of the community reinvestment
act and Fannie and Freddie, and all the housing promoting agencies.
A free market does need "help".
The current system is just fancy footwork for croney
capitalism.
The source of complaints about the size of banks is the same
source of complaints from the unions and the Occupy Wall Street
protesters, but most American politicians, as well as most
Americans, are too ignorant to realize it.
It's a global economy, Stupid.
These banks are competing globally, not just in the U.S., and
they need geographical reach and a large asset base to serve their
customers and shareholders.
If you want to shrink them down to the size of banks in
Australia or Austria, then get ready for an economy and job market
of the same size.
The rest of the world is competing for investment, trade, jobs,
etc. in pursuit of their God-given right to improve their standard
of living.
Hardly any of that competition is "unfair", despite the whining
from Washington. Most of that competition is people working harder,
and governments setting policies smarter, than the U.S.
The first, and most important, step is for the U.S. to recognize
it's in a global competition against people and countries who are
playing for keeps. The American worker, and American business, can
compete successfully against all comers if they put their minds to
it.
U.S. government policy should be geared towards lower corporate
tax rates, at a maximum of 25% but ideally 15% or lower, to attract
domestic and foreign investment in all industry sectors, but
especially manufacturing.
Also, all temporary tax measures should be abandoned, whether
it's payroll tax, income tax, estate tax or any other tax. In this
regard, above else, business seeks certainty. Of course, tax policy
is a moveable beast and can always be changed by future
legislation, but to build uncertainty into the policy is the height
of foolishness, not to mention cynicism.
Perfect example why Huntsman is not even being considered. He is
against economic growth. If we limit the size of banks, we limit
investment, and therefore, limit job growth. Banks lend money to
small businesses to create jobs. It's like huntsman and Oromney are
trying out-liberal each other
Come on now - huge banks don't lend to small businesses. You
won't go to Goldman to finance your hamburger stand. The only need
for big banks is to finance huge projects, and even those usuually
require a consortium.
I'm not favorable toward Huntsman, but after some flailing
around he seems to be edging toward a reasonable position - require
separation of banking functions. The fact is we were better off,
for instance, when mortgage loans were made primarily by Savings
and Loan banks, way back before Bob Dole killed them off with his
'86 tax reform. As far as separating other functions from large
banks, I'm agnostic for the present but willing to be
convinced.
One thing not fully appreciated is that the TBTF banks get that
way in part because only they can thrive in an environment were
economies of scale come into play when satisfying all of government
regulations. This is also why you don't usually hear too many
complaints about these rules from the larger institutions.
The debacle of this president’s administration is both a cause
and a symptom of the decline of American values. Unless Congress
impeaches him, that decline will go on unchecked. An eminent jurist
surveys the damage and assesses the chances for the recovery of our
culture.
The American Christmas, like the songs that celebrate it,
makes room for everybody under the rainbow. Is that why so
many people seem to be hostile to it?
PattyMor| 11.11.11 @ 5:50PM
How about reinstituting depression era reforms that were rescinded. The first step would be to separate trading from banking by mandating spin offs. Then get rid of the community reinvestment act and Fannie and Freddie, and all the housing promoting agencies. A free market does need "help".
The current system is just fancy footwork for croney capitalism.
PCC| 11.12.11 @ 1:27AM
The source of complaints about the size of banks is the same source of complaints from the unions and the Occupy Wall Street protesters, but most American politicians, as well as most Americans, are too ignorant to realize it.
It's a global economy, Stupid.
These banks are competing globally, not just in the U.S., and they need geographical reach and a large asset base to serve their customers and shareholders.
If you want to shrink them down to the size of banks in Australia or Austria, then get ready for an economy and job market of the same size.
Man up, America.
RJ| 11.12.11 @ 1:36AM
I am much more interested in right-sizing government. The focus should be on eliminating, not just cutting.
PCC| 11.12.11 @ 4:48AM
The rest of the world is competing for investment, trade, jobs, etc. in pursuit of their God-given right to improve their standard of living.
Hardly any of that competition is "unfair", despite the whining from Washington. Most of that competition is people working harder, and governments setting policies smarter, than the U.S.
The first, and most important, step is for the U.S. to recognize it's in a global competition against people and countries who are playing for keeps. The American worker, and American business, can compete successfully against all comers if they put their minds to it.
U.S. government policy should be geared towards lower corporate tax rates, at a maximum of 25% but ideally 15% or lower, to attract domestic and foreign investment in all industry sectors, but especially manufacturing.
Also, all temporary tax measures should be abandoned, whether it's payroll tax, income tax, estate tax or any other tax. In this regard, above else, business seeks certainty. Of course, tax policy is a moveable beast and can always be changed by future legislation, but to build uncertainty into the policy is the height of foolishness, not to mention cynicism.
Chris k| 11.12.11 @ 7:55AM
Perfect example why Huntsman is not even being considered. He is against economic growth. If we limit the size of banks, we limit investment, and therefore, limit job growth. Banks lend money to small businesses to create jobs. It's like huntsman and Oromney are trying out-liberal each other
Dai Alanye | 11.12.11 @ 10:24AM
Come on now - huge banks don't lend to small businesses. You won't go to Goldman to finance your hamburger stand. The only need for big banks is to finance huge projects, and even those usuually require a consortium.
I'm not favorable toward Huntsman, but after some flailing around he seems to be edging toward a reasonable position - require separation of banking functions. The fact is we were better off, for instance, when mortgage loans were made primarily by Savings and Loan banks, way back before Bob Dole killed them off with his '86 tax reform. As far as separating other functions from large banks, I'm agnostic for the present but willing to be convinced.
JimH| 11.12.11 @ 1:16PM
One thing not fully appreciated is that the TBTF banks get that way in part because only they can thrive in an environment were economies of scale come into play when satisfying all of government regulations. This is also why you don't usually hear too many complaints about these rules from the larger institutions.