The Herman Cain campaign has put out a
press release (text below) noting the "troubled history"
of his most recent accuser, Sharon Bialek, which includes her
being "sued in 1999 over a paternity matter," twice filing for
bankruptcy, and having "worked for nine employers over the last
seventeen years."
There is good news and bad news here for Cain, but more of the
latter.
Yes, his accuser may indeed be less than 1 percent credible;
indeed few people (and not I) have made any claim that she is
particularly credible -- we don't have much to judge by, though
Cain's research on Ms. Bialek released today does not make her look
like the ideal witness. And her choice of attorney probably damages
her credibility among many, especially conservative, news
watchers.
However, no matter how much we find Mr. Cain affable,
interesting, even slightly compelling, will Republican voters
really want to go for a candidate whose campaign you can already
see being one of repeated attacks from the left on his character,
even if those attacks are manifestly unfair or unsubstantiated?
As Charles Krauthammer said when he spoke at the Leadership
Program of the Rockies Annual Retreat in March, the Republican
nominee must be someone who will allow the election to be primarily
about "Obama and Obamaism." At the time, I took Krauthammer's
remark as an obvious warning about Sarah Palin, and to a lesser
degree Newt Gingrich, though different people could certainly
interpret it differently. Krauthammer's words continue to ring true
to me, and Cain's troubles, as unfair as they may be, are beginning
to push him outside the sumo-like circle which encompasses the
fairly wide range of candidate viability.
I understand, and almost share, many people's gut instinct to
come to Cain's defense as a good man unfairly smeared by anonymous
or not particularly credible attacks of the most vicious sort. And
when it comes to what I believe to be true and how I think people
probably should consider the situation, that's where I am. But when
it comes to the cold light of political reality, as my friend
former Congressman Bob Schaffer likes to say, if you're explaining,
you're losing.
No matter how much he insists he's getting "back on message"
whether the media likes it or not, as long as Herman Cain remains
in this race, he will be explaining...and thus losing not just for
himself but for Republican electoral aspirations more broadly.
I hate the idea of Herman Cain being forced out of this race.
After all, there is nothing that scares the left more than a
successful conservative black or Hispanic. But what I've learned
most of all from the last few days is that Mr. Cain, or at least
his campaign, have been unable to put out a fire -- one which the
arsonist told them when and where it would be set. Again, separate
from the nature or fairness of the accusations, the campaign's
response to them has left me believing that the campaign -- and by
extension the candidate -- is not ready for prime time.
Thus, with some sadness and despite -- or maybe even reinforced
by -- today's press release about Cain's named accuser, I continue
to believe that Herman Cain's candidacy is and should be over.
You fell for the trap--sorry about that, but Mr. Cain's
candidacy cannot be over. The other side wins as a result.
Misha| 11.8.11 @ 3:45PM
I am not a Cain supporter because of the sales tax portion of
his plan. However, I have rallied to defend him. By saying Cain
should be disqualified due to bad leftist print, is scary. Who will
ever escape the ridicule and false accusations of the liberal
media? We will never have such a perfect candidate that the leftist
press can't mount a campaign against, can't smear with half-truths
and lies. I refuse to allow the left to tell me who I can vote for
and I wont let the right's establishment do it either. Rove and
Krauthammer have no crystal ball on who can beat Obama, they barely
understand the tea party, much less the independents. The 2010
success of the GOP was not becauseof the wisdom of Rove and
Krauthammer, but because of the fire of the tea party. I have yet
to pick my candidate, leaning towards Newt, but I am firm it will
never be the ever-changing establishment Romney, no matter how
often I am told the conservative candidates are done and should
just quit the race.
Anommynous| 11.8.11 @ 3:55PM
Is this really a weapon we want to give the liberals, Ross? You
want to give the liberals the power to choose our candidates by
smearing the ones they don't like? That's stupid. Really
stupid.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 4:04PM
Why should that be the level of abstraction: whether liberals
have the "power to choose our candidates."
On the flip side of that by refusing to consider the merits of
the accusations, by refusing to consider his non-denial denials, by
refusing to consider why he won't go into the details of the
accusations, you are, and all because of fear of seeming to allow
the media to select your candidate, allowing the media to select
your candidate.
You're not displaying principled independence. You're displaying
an unseemly fear of the power of the media.
If Cain didn't do it, let him show us his calender, let us hear
assurances from him that he didn't bring single women into his
executive suites, let him tell us he didn't make moves on women
other than his wife, let him assure us he didn't meet these women
for dinner, nor did he have a habit of soliciting such women as his
dinner companions.
There are a host of ways he could alleviate anxiety and
ameliorate concerns.
NONE of which he has taken.
His attempt to make the media the story won't fly, because
that's the standard tactic of the criminal bar who want to make the
police the issue, instead of whether their client had time,
opportunity and motive.
George S| 11.8.11 @ 4:18PM
Here's an off the wall suggestion: how about the accuser offer
proof.
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:29PM
"I saw you bugger that little boy". Now repeat that a couple of
times and your life is ruined. He said/she said is not the standard
by which we judge anybody. Severance settlements are not evidence
of any wrong doing. The only thing at this point that is going to
push me in another direction is if the NRA report implicates Cain
in any culpability. That should be the only thing that matters here
and even it is questionable whether it has any relevancy at all in
this campaign.
Man up and grow a pair.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:23PM
I have a pair, and I have prudence.
There's nothing remotely courageous or manly getting that far
off on a plank for a man you don't remotely know.
Challenging us to grow a pair is but another sign of how
desperate you are to defend him, and another sign of how threadbare
the remaining defense of Cain is.
In a way I feel sorry for those who invested so much in Cain.
But then again, CONSERVATIVES don't make idols of men so little is
known about. There's something inside Conservatives that more than
just warns against such an unbalanced attitude, there's something
inside them that actually wars and rebels against such a thing.
My suspicions of Cain, now fully confirmed, his moral AND
intellectual failings, are but symptomatic of my Conservative
disposition, my Conservative skepticism, my Conservative attitudes
towards such dramas.
Rose| 11.8.11 @ 5:42PM
EXACTLY! And is absolutely OPPOSITE the tactic which Clarence
Thomas took in proving his innocence. They try to act like you
CANNOT prove INNOCENCE - but we all watched Clarence Thomas and his
staff prove his, and we watched Bill Clinton establish his own
guilt.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:30PM
We are not asking him to "prove" his innocence.
We are rather asking him to provide details of his schedule,
details of who his limo company was, whether he had a steady limo
driver.
Did he ever arrange upgrades for women? If so, were they young
and unmarried?
Did he share dinner with such women?
Did he frequently share dinner with such women?
Did he have an executive suite? If so, did he ever show the
insides of such a suite to women? Were those women young and
tight?
Get the picture.
If such details can be provided, then we will be able to
determine whether or not his schedule was consistent with the
allegations against him. A little thing like that would throw some
light on the situation.
Yet strangely Cain refuses to provide such light.
The only "light" we get from him is that thrown off during one
of his incandescent interactions with a curious media.
He's got to go.
We're shooting ourselves in the head with all of this, and if we
don't show sufficient concern over women who have undergone such
things, or heard of those who have, we'll be bleeding support
amongst women and independents. Such voters won't be attracted by
those of us determined to get us all walled up behind some modern
day Alamo.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 3:58PM
Misha, this is no time for someone to go sounding the charge, or
for someone to start blowing the signal for rally.
This is the time for Conservatives and Republicans to listen to
those of us sounding the recall.
Republicans out there for Cain recall to my mind the predicament
of the Scots Greys at the battle of Waterlool, who struck hard, had
tremendous initial success, but then OVER-ENTHUSIASTICALLY over
pursued the French, and got themselves into a position where they
were exposed, cut off, far afield from any reinforcement, and their
mounts were blown.
They were cut to ribbons.
Those supporting Cain should console themselves that they
brought the issue of simplification of the tax code before the
nation, and should return to the fold, from whence they can direct
artillery and other fire on Obama.
We need to get rid of Cain.
Get rid of Romney.
Let Perry down easy.
And select either Gingrich, Bachman or Santorum.
And go from there.
Misha| 11.8.11 @ 4:31PM
I said Cain was already not my pick. I am not changing there,
even said I was leaning Newt. However, I am sick of the left's
media trashing good people just because they are conservatives and
until there is some evidence of a crime I will defend him, although
not vote for him. I like all the conservative candidates. I wanted
Perry, but just cant see that happening. Newt is my second choice I
think. He is competent and it seems he has overcome his scandals
from the past, like the affair and the tax problem. I think he has
been up front about it and said he is a grandfather now, settled. I
accept that. After watching what the press did to Palin, I wont sit
silent when another conservative is attacked, even if I am not
voting for that person. How that is going overboard and into the
slaughter I cannot understand.
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 5:08PM
Help me remember - what was the "tax problem" with Newt? I
thought all his baggage was "personal", and boringly domestic at
that.
Misha| 11.8.11 @ 6:41PM
It was over him teaching college, cant remember more than that,
but sure it is on the internet somewhere.
jimbo| 11.8.11 @ 5:18PM
Leaning Newt? Yeah because he doesn't have a closet full of
skeletons. It's laughable to see him now calling for Cain to
explain himself.
Face it guys, the leftest media is just getting started. They
are going to go from candidate to candidate applying smears from
now until election day to each one until there is no one left that
is "clean."
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 4:01PM
Mrs.Cain's Gonna Rip The Hermanator A New One.
Pity The Hermanator.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 4:10PM
Maybe she knew.
Clearly the Herm had a habit of pursuing young and tight
flesh.
Do you really think the wife hadn't any inkling? Didn't suspect
as much, and long suspect as much?
Women aren't stupid, {though their voting habits suggest
otherwise...}.
Many of Cain's own staff have walked away from him, not because
of his sexual aggressiveness, but because of his egomania, his
deluded belief that he knows things without study or
preparation.
Time for him to go away.
And he's a jerk for subjecting his wife to this too.
That's an aspect that hasn't been covered in the Conservative
blogs, and that's because to cover it would portray Cain as the
heel he is.
So what we have is people still working the accusers, Gloria
Allred, the media, the liberal media which is a redundancy, Perry,
Rinos and the GOP establishment.
Everything and anything but the specifics of whether Cain had a
track record of pursuing young, tight flesh.
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:31PM
Clearly the Herm had a habit of pursuing young and tight
flesh.
What possible evidence do you base that on?
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 5:11PM
No kidding.
Dan - you've either got all sorts of unreported information, or
way too much projection going on.
Andrew| 11.8.11 @ 5:21PM
Dan read the New York Times yesterday.
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 6:11PM
Like I said . . .
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:17PM
Fellas' I said others were going to come forward.
Others came forward, {and are now mulling over a JOINT press
statement and conference, won't that just be wonderful for all
those still out on the plank for Cain}.
Cain hasn't yet denied SPECIFICS, such as inviting women to his
executive suite, inviting women to share his ride with him in the
back seat, whether or not he arranged up grades for hotel rooms,
whether he shared dinner with these women, whether he had a history
of sharing dinner with young, single women.
Fellas you've been behind the curve whereas I've been ahead, way
ahead.
Perhaps you should consider that track record before dismissing
out of hand my comments.
Some people are uncomfortable being proven wrong; some people
are uncomfortable being played by candidates. Some aren't.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:28PM
If Dan's Right:
What Did Mrs.Cain Know, And When Did She Know It ?
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:34PM
Yea.
Hillary knew. Not just Lewinsky either. She knew Governor
Clinton used the Arkansas State Police detail as procurers.
I feel sorry for the wife, even as in a way I feel sorry for
Hillary, {though that is sharply tempered by her own radical left
leanings}.
Nobody should really enjoy seeing women publicly humiliated.
Cain's wife is an older woman, who maybe thought ever really
dealing with such things was behind her. But Cain's ego got the
better of him and he decided to run for a nomination and an office
he's not remotely ready for, prepared for, or studied for.
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 8:26PM
FWIW - Mr. Cain is not my preference, and I'm neither overly
impressed nor overly suspicious of his actions here. BUT, having
just watched 10 minutes of the primary accuser on TV, if anything,
Mr. Cain should arrange for her to keep talking as much as she
likes.
Here in Chicago there's a wave of reaction and comment building,
and it doesn't have anything to say about him.
Just sayin.
Bill| 11.8.11 @ 4:02PM
Ross is right, Herman Cain is a flawed candidate, he is nothing
but a distraction for the GOP field, he needs to end his campaign.
That will save America at least.
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:24PM
If all that is needed to toss a candidate to the mat for the
count is an accusation or two, absolutely no candidate could stand
the scrutiny. This latest political whore and her crooked lawyer
need to be dealt with the gloves off. It is time for conservatives
to stand behind their candidates and toss innuendo into the garbage
pail where it belongs.
Neither you or Krauthammer seem to have your fingers on the real
pulse of the grassroots Republican voter. We are tired of
progressive liberals and establishment moderates stealing our
voices in how we should govern ourselves.
canuckistani| 11.8.11 @ 4:28PM
This a white republican from Chicago.....whore?
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:33PM
This is a white gold digger with Gloria Allred as her attorney.
How long has she been a Republican? How long has she had interest
in the "Tea Party"? Who is paying for all this media circus? If you
cannot see this for the canard that it is, you should stick to
cartoons.
Andrew| 11.8.11 @ 5:22PM
If memory serves, the Times article said she voted for Obama and
plans to again. That's worth confirming but I'm busy right now.
conservative bob| 11.8.11 @ 4:42PM
Score another one for the Machine!
I am in an odd place here in that I am not a Cain supporter. I like
him, some ideas yes some ideas not as much but this travesty that
are theses attacks should serve as a warning to all outside of the
ruling elite of either party.
They told us it was their game and set out to prove and enforce
that fact.
We have a pattern here. Look at the “outsiders” supported by the
TEA party in 2010. How many were opposed in the primary and or
unsupported after the primaries. Look how they were handled.
Look at how this year is playing out. From the left and the right,
the media apparatus is aimed at a candidate and unless you are a
pro from the inside you will die the death of a thousand cuts or
the electronic lynching Cain is enjoying now.
I get it we have to beat O and whomever we select had better be
able to withstand the torrent that will be thrown at whichever
individual ends up being our nominee. The difference between now
and the general is that the party will stand behind and support and
defend.
The insiders already have that support.
We are being lead/forced/driven to a preselected result. Only an
insider will do.
After the 2008 election I decided to withhold contributions from
the RNC, RNSC and the NRCC, and instead give to groups like the
various TEA organizations or Freedom works etc.
I will vote R this time because to do otherwise is to damn my
children and grand children to further destruction by Obama and his
minions.
After Nov 2012 I think I will withhold not only my money but also
my vote. I am so F***ing tired of being betrayed and taken for
granted by my party and its ruling elite.
You sanctimonious bastards think that you know what is best for me
and mine, beware! I will not be ruled. Go ahead and continue to
delude yourself that the conservatives have nowhere else to go so
they will have to vote GOP. I can see a new party rising up in the
near future on the ashes of the RINO/GOP.
Kathleen| 11.8.11 @ 4:57PM
Can the writer Dan be serious? How can you make this accusation?
Where are the facts, Dan? Unless Dan has, shall we say, another
agenda. I'm disturbed by how easily frightened some people can get
over the oldest trick in the book....roll out Gloria Allred, the
required victim and the wimps start running. Stand tall, Herman,
and we supporters will stand tall with you. Fight this crap and go
ahead...do it unconventionally. Class will defeat Crass.
Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 5:18PM
Sorry, Ross, but that was the biggest load of shit I have ever
read here. Now, he is saying too much. Two weeks ago it was not
enough. Two weeks ago he was suppose to be explaining and defending
himself and now he is and he is wrong to do it. You and your pals
said he should put this to bed with a press conference and now he
has but that is bad. You admit that this is a unsubstantiated smear
campaign but you are more than willing to throw him overboard and
bow to MSM power and do EXACTLY what they want you to do.
The hell with what the nation or the electorate want.
Apparently, you decide what is electable and what is not. You make
the claim is campaign is finished but the polls say otherwise. He
is putting out the fire. He is exposing the accuser as a fraud and
opportunist but you keep saying he is toast. You are sorry for him?
Please. We are not that stupid.
Please explain to me EXACTLY how this is not going to happen to
ALL OF THEM as it HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO PERRY, BACHMANN, and now
CAIN! You think your man Romney is going to be left combing his
hair?
What the hell is a matter with you? This is what you hold up as
a reasoned and intelligent argument and opinion piece?
Ok, gloves off.
Let us just stop the bullshit here.
You and your political establishment elite that call yourself
the political opposition of the DNC, the leading conservative
voices, the pundits, the people in the know, and the leaders and
shakers, do not want a real conservative in power at the highest
level of office. This little game has been played out for nearly a
century to ad nauseum and it is a testimony to the stupidity of a
large segment of the republican voting electorate that they have
been unwilling to admit and recognize this.
You are afraid of the MSM progressive media, jump at every
antagonistic accusation from them, and really believe that a
conservative can not be elected...and probably should not be.
Well, many of us that have come out here for the past year on a
regular basis watched and read article after article of this self
destructiveness, bowing, and hand wringing as you systematically
bent over and destroyed every single conservative candidate with
the lamest fodder you could mold and throw together, Gingrich is
next. So, let's just skip the pretenses and all the bullshit and
just get on with the usual. Start up the crap on Gingrich, finish
him off and be done with it. Save us the aggravation and false
hope.
You are all pathetic. You do not deserve to rule.
You certainly do not deserve my attention.
My lord, what a waste. Disgusting losers.
I would bet that Dick Morris sometimes thinks back about when he
was a democratic operative and remembers how his job was so easy.
He could get up every morning, dig a political hole for the
conservatives and republicans, march them straight into it, hand
them a few pistols, tell them to shoot theselves in the head and
watch them fall right over into the trench. It was so easy. Now, he
has to work with the likes of you idiots and has to work one
hundred times harder to advance your causes.
ulyssesmsu| 11.8.11 @ 5:21PM
Sorry--not correct. The mostly-liberal media protected Bill
Clinton and ignored the obviously-true accusations of sexual
impropriety against him. The same media ignored and overlooked the
Vera Baker issue when Obama ran for president. So, it's time for
that same media to apply those same principles to Herman Cain. If
it didn't matter with Clinton or Obama, it doesn't matter with
Cain.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:41PM
Logically accurate.
But politically wrong. A wise man knows his world, knows the
time, and in the world we live in certain political gravities
exist.
Those gravities may be lamented; it may have been right for
Republicans to have resisted their imposition some time ago.
But nonetheless those gravities exist.
Ask yourself how many voters deserted GW back in 2000 over an
undisclosed DUI. Rove estimated that it cost GW three percent of
the national vote. THREE FULL PERCENT.
And that was a damn DUI.
Which is nothing in my book but a joke.
And yet some want to try to force the electorate to choose
between Obama and a Cain, an unready and unread Cain, with dark
clouds swirling around him and accusations galore all over the
media.
Have you guys lost your mind or something?
Meanwhile we can go with a Santorum, or a Gingrich, we could go
with a woman and try to split the women vote away from the
Democrats. Sure those candidates will be hit, and hit hard. Sure
the libs will try to smear them.
That goes without saying.
But there is one candidate whose glaring inadequacies we know of
NOW, beforehand, and with that foreknowledge we can jettison him
for a candidate better read, better prepared, MORE
CONSERVATIVE.
And some still want to go with Cain.
Some people have allowed their ego to run amok, and their
emotions to unduly sway their JUDGEMENT.
MikeBee| 11.8.11 @ 5:29PM
These charges reveal more about what the Liberal Left think
about blacks that it does about Herman Cain. The Left have
concocted a scenario that fits their preconceived notions about
black men a bit too perfectly. White woman.....Blonde white
woman.....Blonde white woman from Chicago.....evil black man
putting his hand up her skirt.....this scenario is only short the
mulatto baby and the black pubic hair found somewhere. The fact
that the accuser is from Chicago, Obama's "home" town, tells you a
lot, too. While I am not a Herman Cain supporter, this thing fits
the mold of how the Left thinks about black men too much for me to
believe it. The Left is hoping that white, European folks in the
U.S. will reject Cain, and are lamely attempting to fit Herman Cain
into their caricature of how all black men are. I, for one, do not
believe their caricature. I've met too many honorable black men to
fall into the Left's trap.
RJ| 11.8.11 @ 5:31PM
Ross asks: "will Republican voters really want to go for a
candidate whose campaign you can already see being one of repeated
attacks from the left on his character, even if those attacks are
manifestly unfair or unsubstantiated?"
My question is what Republican nominee can escape
unsubstantiated attacks? No one is imune to this type of treatment.
This matter is an introduction to what will follow in the general
election regardless of who the nominee is. So get used to it and
the nominee better have a strategy to win the race in spite of
unsubstantiated attacks.
I am not planning to vote Cain due to other reasons, but we
cannot quit on a candidate because of unsubstantiated attacks. The
liberals and their media trolls have promised a very dirty
campaign. History provides enough evidence that we would be fools
not to expecd it. It will take undying determination to beat them.
Perhaps Ross and others who feel the same way should stay in the
locker room in 2012.
Rose| 11.8.11 @ 5:34PM
Cain has changed his story repeatedly, but he "only made some
mistakes at the beginning". There isn't a single defender out there
who can explain that they KNOW from working around Cain that he
simply doesn't act like that, or conduct himself in a way to leave
himself open to CREDIBLE attacks of this nature. NOBODY is
outlining his habitual protocol that is a natural defense against
being waylaid by such things. All his supporters and he himself
know to do is flail about like the Bill Clinton Bimbo eruption
Committee, saying every vile thing about the accusers they can
think of - everything EXCEPT how the accusations CAN BE
FALSE.
EVEN NEWT is urging Cain to address the ISSUES.
Clarence Thomas' staff ably refuted the accusers.
Bill Clinton supporters vociferously ASSAILED the accusers. Now
CAIN is assailing the accusers and not doing ANY refutations AT
ALL!
PEUEEEE! The stench!
What if Penn State were attacking the coach's accusers like this.
Would the Republicans be joining in on THAT?
jimbo| 11.8.11 @ 5:50PM
Clinton was accused by numerous women of rape and sexual
assault. None of these women are claiming anything close to those
allegations.
Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 6:22PM
My thoughts on this are like a sine wave. One moment I believe
(and generally still do) he's completely guilty, the next I waver
because of the credibility of the accuser but mostly because of her
evil witch lawyer. Gloria Allred's evidence is weak at best, but,
curiously my gut says the accusation is somewhat true.
I will say this about Herman: If anyone can escape from this
unharmed or even stronger, it's him. He's relentless, resilient,
possesses a personality most politicians would kill for, AND his
conservatism is not to be questioned.
I still say he took a few too many liberties with his female
coworkers but to what extent I'm not sure.
Any other time this little circus show would be quite
entertaining but our country is approaching FUBAR so it's time to
put away childish things.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:25PM
The Perry Camp Is Getting Payback For The NiggerHead Rock
Issue.
What Goes Around Comes Around.
" Meanwhile, pollster Chris Wilson — who said he polled for the
National Restaurant Association during Cain’s tenure, and whose
firm has more recently done work for an outside super PAC
supporting Perry — told Oklahoma radio station KTOK that he had
witnessed harassment by Cain toward a very low-level staffer who
was maybe two years out of college."
Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 6:27PM
As though Paul hasn't tried to 'utilize the human
resources'.
bluecollarbytes| 11.8.11 @ 6:29PM
In Cain's specific case, these 'charges' may do his candidacy
in. Republican primary voters will decide the relevancy if any.
but to think that media will do anything but endlessly attack
the character of any Republican candidate who may threaten
Obamagenda , is foolish.
___________________
Surprise surprise, we are almost left with no one but Romney. Funny
how that all works out. Yeah Newt is around, but there is no
shortage of detractors on the right worried about his baggage.
It might do well to remember who and what we're running against
here. The idea should be to defeat Obama in full. Romney cannot do
that.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:31PM
Put Up Or Shut Up, Grant.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:36PM
RINO-CINO ,The Smear Artist,
"It has been widely reported that Ron Paul
Has touched the private parts of at least
Four thousand women.
No complaints have been filed."
Oh ! He's An OBGYN Doctor.
Never Mind.
Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 7:53PM
As they say: Never trust a guy who has two first names and no
last. Always up to no good!
Teflon93| 11.8.11 @ 7:08PM
I cannot wait until the oppo tsunami hits Romney Beach and you
RINOs have to try to walk back the garbage you spewed to lynch
Cain.
Deaf ears will be evident all around.
bluecollarbytes| 11.8.11 @ 7:31PM
by the way, Mr Kaminsky,
heard you radio-host on KOA this past Saturday. You have the 'radio
talent' as they say. Very interesting and a pleasant surprise on a
normally-dead radio-Saturday.
Constance| 11.8.11 @ 9:32PM
To declare any candidate's aspirations as over because of the
accusations of some women - none of who we have even seen except
for one, and absolutely no proof provided other than their words,
is really ludicrous. This isn't how to fight a war, and we are in a
war for the future of this country. You don't turn tail and run.
You stand and fight. If Mr. Cain is innocent, I will stand right
beside him and fight for his right to be right where he is. I have
seen or heard nothing so far, particularly in the shambles of a
statement put out by Miss Bialek and the lech Gloria Allred, that
tells me Mr. Cain is anything other than a decent man.
Simon Templar| 11.9.11 @ 12:19AM
Ross,
Here is a video I suggest you watch that I think will help your
confused state and your spinelessness. Ask yourself if the man in
this film would say we are helpless and throw his hands up in the
air.
There is and always has been, a moderate sized undercurrent of
integrity and financial responsibility challenged people within our
population. The Democratic Party and their captive media have, for
the last couple of decades, tapped ever deeper into that
questionable resource for darkening/warping/smearing brushes, with
which to Photoshop the images of individuals they perceive as
serious political threats and who have risen to the top for the
moment.
Thus far they have used only women who were supposedly of legal
age at the time of their never proven and always late allegations.
However, at the cubic rate of growth of the use of this tactic on
the left, we may look for the same shaky stories from the same sex
and underage at the time, genres also. Especially so considering
the current popularity of (experimental?) combinations of both in
the media lately against other than political figures and as we
witness the devastatingly lethal effects upon both the target and
everyone around them.
There seems to be no good legal response to the tactic, since
once the target is tried and found guilty in the news media, the
usual court remedies are no longer viable, seeming only to create
more grit for the media mill and in practice, requiring the victim
to prove his innocence rather than the accuser to prove any
guilt.
And the really good news for the Democratic operatives? Whatever
the final outcome, it will be well after the election in
question.
PEspada| 11.8.11 @ 3:40PM
You fell for the trap--sorry about that, but Mr. Cain's candidacy cannot be over. The other side wins as a result.
Misha| 11.8.11 @ 3:45PM
I am not a Cain supporter because of the sales tax portion of his plan. However, I have rallied to defend him. By saying Cain should be disqualified due to bad leftist print, is scary. Who will ever escape the ridicule and false accusations of the liberal media? We will never have such a perfect candidate that the leftist press can't mount a campaign against, can't smear with half-truths and lies. I refuse to allow the left to tell me who I can vote for and I wont let the right's establishment do it either. Rove and Krauthammer have no crystal ball on who can beat Obama, they barely understand the tea party, much less the independents. The 2010 success of the GOP was not becauseof the wisdom of Rove and Krauthammer, but because of the fire of the tea party. I have yet to pick my candidate, leaning towards Newt, but I am firm it will never be the ever-changing establishment Romney, no matter how often I am told the conservative candidates are done and should just quit the race.
Anommynous| 11.8.11 @ 3:55PM
Is this really a weapon we want to give the liberals, Ross? You want to give the liberals the power to choose our candidates by smearing the ones they don't like? That's stupid. Really stupid.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 4:04PM
Why should that be the level of abstraction: whether liberals have the "power to choose our candidates."
On the flip side of that by refusing to consider the merits of the accusations, by refusing to consider his non-denial denials, by refusing to consider why he won't go into the details of the accusations, you are, and all because of fear of seeming to allow the media to select your candidate, allowing the media to select your candidate.
You're not displaying principled independence. You're displaying an unseemly fear of the power of the media.
If Cain didn't do it, let him show us his calender, let us hear assurances from him that he didn't bring single women into his executive suites, let him tell us he didn't make moves on women other than his wife, let him assure us he didn't meet these women for dinner, nor did he have a habit of soliciting such women as his dinner companions.
There are a host of ways he could alleviate anxiety and ameliorate concerns.
NONE of which he has taken.
His attempt to make the media the story won't fly, because that's the standard tactic of the criminal bar who want to make the police the issue, instead of whether their client had time, opportunity and motive.
George S| 11.8.11 @ 4:18PM
Here's an off the wall suggestion: how about the accuser offer proof.
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:29PM
"I saw you bugger that little boy". Now repeat that a couple of times and your life is ruined. He said/she said is not the standard by which we judge anybody. Severance settlements are not evidence of any wrong doing. The only thing at this point that is going to push me in another direction is if the NRA report implicates Cain in any culpability. That should be the only thing that matters here and even it is questionable whether it has any relevancy at all in this campaign.
Man up and grow a pair.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:23PM
I have a pair, and I have prudence.
There's nothing remotely courageous or manly getting that far off on a plank for a man you don't remotely know.
Challenging us to grow a pair is but another sign of how desperate you are to defend him, and another sign of how threadbare the remaining defense of Cain is.
In a way I feel sorry for those who invested so much in Cain. But then again, CONSERVATIVES don't make idols of men so little is known about. There's something inside Conservatives that more than just warns against such an unbalanced attitude, there's something inside them that actually wars and rebels against such a thing.
My suspicions of Cain, now fully confirmed, his moral AND intellectual failings, are but symptomatic of my Conservative disposition, my Conservative skepticism, my Conservative attitudes towards such dramas.
Rose| 11.8.11 @ 5:42PM
EXACTLY! And is absolutely OPPOSITE the tactic which Clarence Thomas took in proving his innocence. They try to act like you CANNOT prove INNOCENCE - but we all watched Clarence Thomas and his staff prove his, and we watched Bill Clinton establish his own guilt.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:30PM
We are not asking him to "prove" his innocence.
We are rather asking him to provide details of his schedule, details of who his limo company was, whether he had a steady limo driver.
Did he ever arrange upgrades for women? If so, were they young and unmarried?
Did he share dinner with such women?
Did he frequently share dinner with such women?
Did he have an executive suite? If so, did he ever show the insides of such a suite to women? Were those women young and tight?
Get the picture.
If such details can be provided, then we will be able to determine whether or not his schedule was consistent with the allegations against him. A little thing like that would throw some light on the situation.
Yet strangely Cain refuses to provide such light.
The only "light" we get from him is that thrown off during one of his incandescent interactions with a curious media.
He's got to go.
We're shooting ourselves in the head with all of this, and if we don't show sufficient concern over women who have undergone such things, or heard of those who have, we'll be bleeding support amongst women and independents. Such voters won't be attracted by those of us determined to get us all walled up behind some modern day Alamo.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 3:58PM
Misha, this is no time for someone to go sounding the charge, or for someone to start blowing the signal for rally.
This is the time for Conservatives and Republicans to listen to those of us sounding the recall.
Republicans out there for Cain recall to my mind the predicament of the Scots Greys at the battle of Waterlool, who struck hard, had tremendous initial success, but then OVER-ENTHUSIASTICALLY over pursued the French, and got themselves into a position where they were exposed, cut off, far afield from any reinforcement, and their mounts were blown.
They were cut to ribbons.
Those supporting Cain should console themselves that they brought the issue of simplification of the tax code before the nation, and should return to the fold, from whence they can direct artillery and other fire on Obama.
We need to get rid of Cain.
Get rid of Romney.
Let Perry down easy.
And select either Gingrich, Bachman or Santorum.
And go from there.
Misha| 11.8.11 @ 4:31PM
I said Cain was already not my pick. I am not changing there, even said I was leaning Newt. However, I am sick of the left's media trashing good people just because they are conservatives and until there is some evidence of a crime I will defend him, although not vote for him. I like all the conservative candidates. I wanted Perry, but just cant see that happening. Newt is my second choice I think. He is competent and it seems he has overcome his scandals from the past, like the affair and the tax problem. I think he has been up front about it and said he is a grandfather now, settled. I accept that. After watching what the press did to Palin, I wont sit silent when another conservative is attacked, even if I am not voting for that person. How that is going overboard and into the slaughter I cannot understand.
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 5:08PM
Help me remember - what was the "tax problem" with Newt? I thought all his baggage was "personal", and boringly domestic at that.
Misha| 11.8.11 @ 6:41PM
It was over him teaching college, cant remember more than that, but sure it is on the internet somewhere.
jimbo| 11.8.11 @ 5:18PM
Leaning Newt? Yeah because he doesn't have a closet full of skeletons. It's laughable to see him now calling for Cain to explain himself.
Face it guys, the leftest media is just getting started. They are going to go from candidate to candidate applying smears from now until election day to each one until there is no one left that is "clean."
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 4:01PM
Mrs.Cain's Gonna Rip The Hermanator A New One.
Pity The Hermanator.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 4:10PM
Maybe she knew.
Clearly the Herm had a habit of pursuing young and tight flesh.
Do you really think the wife hadn't any inkling? Didn't suspect as much, and long suspect as much?
Women aren't stupid, {though their voting habits suggest otherwise...}.
Many of Cain's own staff have walked away from him, not because of his sexual aggressiveness, but because of his egomania, his deluded belief that he knows things without study or preparation.
Time for him to go away.
And he's a jerk for subjecting his wife to this too.
That's an aspect that hasn't been covered in the Conservative blogs, and that's because to cover it would portray Cain as the heel he is.
So what we have is people still working the accusers, Gloria Allred, the media, the liberal media which is a redundancy, Perry, Rinos and the GOP establishment.
Everything and anything but the specifics of whether Cain had a track record of pursuing young, tight flesh.
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:31PM
Clearly the Herm had a habit of pursuing young and tight flesh.
What possible evidence do you base that on?
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 5:11PM
No kidding.
Dan - you've either got all sorts of unreported information, or way too much projection going on.
Andrew| 11.8.11 @ 5:21PM
Dan read the New York Times yesterday.
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 6:11PM
Like I said . . .
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:17PM
Fellas' I said others were going to come forward.
Others came forward, {and are now mulling over a JOINT press statement and conference, won't that just be wonderful for all those still out on the plank for Cain}.
Cain hasn't yet denied SPECIFICS, such as inviting women to his executive suite, inviting women to share his ride with him in the back seat, whether or not he arranged up grades for hotel rooms, whether he shared dinner with these women, whether he had a history of sharing dinner with young, single women.
Fellas you've been behind the curve whereas I've been ahead, way ahead.
Perhaps you should consider that track record before dismissing out of hand my comments.
Some people are uncomfortable being proven wrong; some people are uncomfortable being played by candidates. Some aren't.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:28PM
If Dan's Right:
What Did Mrs.Cain Know, And When Did She Know It ?
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:34PM
Yea.
Hillary knew. Not just Lewinsky either. She knew Governor Clinton used the Arkansas State Police detail as procurers.
I feel sorry for the wife, even as in a way I feel sorry for Hillary, {though that is sharply tempered by her own radical left leanings}.
Nobody should really enjoy seeing women publicly humiliated. Cain's wife is an older woman, who maybe thought ever really dealing with such things was behind her. But Cain's ego got the better of him and he decided to run for a nomination and an office he's not remotely ready for, prepared for, or studied for.
Interested Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 8:26PM
FWIW - Mr. Cain is not my preference, and I'm neither overly impressed nor overly suspicious of his actions here. BUT, having just watched 10 minutes of the primary accuser on TV, if anything, Mr. Cain should arrange for her to keep talking as much as she likes.
Here in Chicago there's a wave of reaction and comment building, and it doesn't have anything to say about him.
Just sayin.
Bill| 11.8.11 @ 4:02PM
Ross is right, Herman Cain is a flawed candidate, he is nothing but a distraction for the GOP field, he needs to end his campaign. That will save America at least.
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:24PM
If all that is needed to toss a candidate to the mat for the count is an accusation or two, absolutely no candidate could stand the scrutiny. This latest political whore and her crooked lawyer need to be dealt with the gloves off. It is time for conservatives to stand behind their candidates and toss innuendo into the garbage pail where it belongs.
Neither you or Krauthammer seem to have your fingers on the real pulse of the grassroots Republican voter. We are tired of progressive liberals and establishment moderates stealing our voices in how we should govern ourselves.
canuckistani| 11.8.11 @ 4:28PM
This a white republican from Chicago.....whore?
A.M. Mallett| 11.8.11 @ 4:33PM
This is a white gold digger with Gloria Allred as her attorney. How long has she been a Republican? How long has she had interest in the "Tea Party"? Who is paying for all this media circus? If you cannot see this for the canard that it is, you should stick to cartoons.
Andrew| 11.8.11 @ 5:22PM
If memory serves, the Times article said she voted for Obama and plans to again. That's worth confirming but I'm busy right now.
conservative bob| 11.8.11 @ 4:42PM
Score another one for the Machine!
I am in an odd place here in that I am not a Cain supporter. I like him, some ideas yes some ideas not as much but this travesty that are theses attacks should serve as a warning to all outside of the ruling elite of either party.
They told us it was their game and set out to prove and enforce that fact.
We have a pattern here. Look at the “outsiders” supported by the TEA party in 2010. How many were opposed in the primary and or unsupported after the primaries. Look how they were handled.
Look at how this year is playing out. From the left and the right, the media apparatus is aimed at a candidate and unless you are a pro from the inside you will die the death of a thousand cuts or the electronic lynching Cain is enjoying now.
I get it we have to beat O and whomever we select had better be able to withstand the torrent that will be thrown at whichever individual ends up being our nominee. The difference between now and the general is that the party will stand behind and support and defend.
The insiders already have that support.
We are being lead/forced/driven to a preselected result. Only an insider will do.
After the 2008 election I decided to withhold contributions from the RNC, RNSC and the NRCC, and instead give to groups like the various TEA organizations or Freedom works etc.
I will vote R this time because to do otherwise is to damn my children and grand children to further destruction by Obama and his minions.
After Nov 2012 I think I will withhold not only my money but also my vote. I am so F***ing tired of being betrayed and taken for granted by my party and its ruling elite.
You sanctimonious bastards think that you know what is best for me and mine, beware! I will not be ruled. Go ahead and continue to delude yourself that the conservatives have nowhere else to go so they will have to vote GOP. I can see a new party rising up in the near future on the ashes of the RINO/GOP.
Kathleen| 11.8.11 @ 4:57PM
Can the writer Dan be serious? How can you make this accusation? Where are the facts, Dan? Unless Dan has, shall we say, another agenda. I'm disturbed by how easily frightened some people can get over the oldest trick in the book....roll out Gloria Allred, the required victim and the wimps start running. Stand tall, Herman, and we supporters will stand tall with you. Fight this crap and go ahead...do it unconventionally. Class will defeat Crass.
Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 5:18PM
Sorry, Ross, but that was the biggest load of shit I have ever read here. Now, he is saying too much. Two weeks ago it was not enough. Two weeks ago he was suppose to be explaining and defending himself and now he is and he is wrong to do it. You and your pals said he should put this to bed with a press conference and now he has but that is bad. You admit that this is a unsubstantiated smear campaign but you are more than willing to throw him overboard and bow to MSM power and do EXACTLY what they want you to do.
The hell with what the nation or the electorate want. Apparently, you decide what is electable and what is not. You make the claim is campaign is finished but the polls say otherwise. He is putting out the fire. He is exposing the accuser as a fraud and opportunist but you keep saying he is toast. You are sorry for him? Please. We are not that stupid.
Please explain to me EXACTLY how this is not going to happen to ALL OF THEM as it HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO PERRY, BACHMANN, and now CAIN! You think your man Romney is going to be left combing his hair?
What the hell is a matter with you? This is what you hold up as a reasoned and intelligent argument and opinion piece?
Ok, gloves off.
Let us just stop the bullshit here.
You and your political establishment elite that call yourself the political opposition of the DNC, the leading conservative voices, the pundits, the people in the know, and the leaders and shakers, do not want a real conservative in power at the highest level of office. This little game has been played out for nearly a century to ad nauseum and it is a testimony to the stupidity of a large segment of the republican voting electorate that they have been unwilling to admit and recognize this.
You are afraid of the MSM progressive media, jump at every antagonistic accusation from them, and really believe that a conservative can not be elected...and probably should not be.
Well, many of us that have come out here for the past year on a regular basis watched and read article after article of this self destructiveness, bowing, and hand wringing as you systematically bent over and destroyed every single conservative candidate with the lamest fodder you could mold and throw together, Gingrich is next. So, let's just skip the pretenses and all the bullshit and just get on with the usual. Start up the crap on Gingrich, finish him off and be done with it. Save us the aggravation and false hope.
You are all pathetic. You do not deserve to rule.
You certainly do not deserve my attention.
My lord, what a waste. Disgusting losers.
I would bet that Dick Morris sometimes thinks back about when he was a democratic operative and remembers how his job was so easy. He could get up every morning, dig a political hole for the conservatives and republicans, march them straight into it, hand them a few pistols, tell them to shoot theselves in the head and watch them fall right over into the trench. It was so easy. Now, he has to work with the likes of you idiots and has to work one hundred times harder to advance your causes.
ulyssesmsu| 11.8.11 @ 5:21PM
Sorry--not correct. The mostly-liberal media protected Bill Clinton and ignored the obviously-true accusations of sexual impropriety against him. The same media ignored and overlooked the Vera Baker issue when Obama ran for president. So, it's time for that same media to apply those same principles to Herman Cain. If it didn't matter with Clinton or Obama, it doesn't matter with Cain.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 6:41PM
Logically accurate.
But politically wrong. A wise man knows his world, knows the time, and in the world we live in certain political gravities exist.
Those gravities may be lamented; it may have been right for Republicans to have resisted their imposition some time ago.
But nonetheless those gravities exist.
Ask yourself how many voters deserted GW back in 2000 over an undisclosed DUI. Rove estimated that it cost GW three percent of the national vote. THREE FULL PERCENT.
And that was a damn DUI.
Which is nothing in my book but a joke.
And yet some want to try to force the electorate to choose between Obama and a Cain, an unready and unread Cain, with dark clouds swirling around him and accusations galore all over the media.
Have you guys lost your mind or something?
Meanwhile we can go with a Santorum, or a Gingrich, we could go with a woman and try to split the women vote away from the Democrats. Sure those candidates will be hit, and hit hard. Sure the libs will try to smear them.
That goes without saying.
But there is one candidate whose glaring inadequacies we know of NOW, beforehand, and with that foreknowledge we can jettison him for a candidate better read, better prepared, MORE CONSERVATIVE.
And some still want to go with Cain.
Some people have allowed their ego to run amok, and their emotions to unduly sway their JUDGEMENT.
MikeBee| 11.8.11 @ 5:29PM
These charges reveal more about what the Liberal Left think about blacks that it does about Herman Cain. The Left have concocted a scenario that fits their preconceived notions about black men a bit too perfectly. White woman.....Blonde white woman.....Blonde white woman from Chicago.....evil black man putting his hand up her skirt.....this scenario is only short the mulatto baby and the black pubic hair found somewhere. The fact that the accuser is from Chicago, Obama's "home" town, tells you a lot, too. While I am not a Herman Cain supporter, this thing fits the mold of how the Left thinks about black men too much for me to believe it. The Left is hoping that white, European folks in the U.S. will reject Cain, and are lamely attempting to fit Herman Cain into their caricature of how all black men are. I, for one, do not believe their caricature. I've met too many honorable black men to fall into the Left's trap.
RJ| 11.8.11 @ 5:31PM
Ross asks: "will Republican voters really want to go for a candidate whose campaign you can already see being one of repeated attacks from the left on his character, even if those attacks are manifestly unfair or unsubstantiated?"
My question is what Republican nominee can escape unsubstantiated attacks? No one is imune to this type of treatment. This matter is an introduction to what will follow in the general election regardless of who the nominee is. So get used to it and the nominee better have a strategy to win the race in spite of unsubstantiated attacks.
I am not planning to vote Cain due to other reasons, but we cannot quit on a candidate because of unsubstantiated attacks. The liberals and their media trolls have promised a very dirty campaign. History provides enough evidence that we would be fools not to expecd it. It will take undying determination to beat them. Perhaps Ross and others who feel the same way should stay in the locker room in 2012.
Rose| 11.8.11 @ 5:34PM
Cain has changed his story repeatedly, but he "only made some mistakes at the beginning". There isn't a single defender out there who can explain that they KNOW from working around Cain that he simply doesn't act like that, or conduct himself in a way to leave himself open to CREDIBLE attacks of this nature. NOBODY is outlining his habitual protocol that is a natural defense against being waylaid by such things. All his supporters and he himself know to do is flail about like the Bill Clinton Bimbo eruption Committee, saying every vile thing about the accusers they can think of - everything EXCEPT how the accusations CAN BE FALSE.
EVEN NEWT is urging Cain to address the ISSUES.
Clarence Thomas' staff ably refuted the accusers.
Bill Clinton supporters vociferously ASSAILED the accusers. Now CAIN is assailing the accusers and not doing ANY refutations AT ALL!
PEUEEEE! The stench!
What if Penn State were attacking the coach's accusers like this. Would the Republicans be joining in on THAT?
jimbo| 11.8.11 @ 5:50PM
Clinton was accused by numerous women of rape and sexual assault. None of these women are claiming anything close to those allegations.
Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 6:22PM
My thoughts on this are like a sine wave. One moment I believe (and generally still do) he's completely guilty, the next I waver because of the credibility of the accuser but mostly because of her evil witch lawyer. Gloria Allred's evidence is weak at best, but, curiously my gut says the accusation is somewhat true.
I will say this about Herman: If anyone can escape from this unharmed or even stronger, it's him. He's relentless, resilient, possesses a personality most politicians would kill for, AND his conservatism is not to be questioned.
I still say he took a few too many liberties with his female coworkers but to what extent I'm not sure.
Any other time this little circus show would be quite entertaining but our country is approaching FUBAR so it's time to put away childish things.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:25PM
The Perry Camp Is Getting Payback For The NiggerHead Rock Issue.
What Goes Around Comes Around.
" Meanwhile, pollster Chris Wilson — who said he polled for the National Restaurant Association during Cain’s tenure, and whose firm has more recently done work for an outside super PAC supporting Perry — told Oklahoma radio station KTOK that he had witnessed harassment by Cain toward a very low-level staffer who was maybe two years out of college."
Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 6:27PM
As though Paul hasn't tried to 'utilize the human resources'.
bluecollarbytes| 11.8.11 @ 6:29PM
In Cain's specific case, these 'charges' may do his candidacy in. Republican primary voters will decide the relevancy if any.
but to think that media will do anything but endlessly attack the character of any Republican candidate who may threaten Obamagenda , is foolish.
___________________
Surprise surprise, we are almost left with no one but Romney. Funny how that all works out. Yeah Newt is around, but there is no shortage of detractors on the right worried about his baggage.
It might do well to remember who and what we're running against here. The idea should be to defeat Obama in full. Romney cannot do that.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:31PM
Put Up Or Shut Up, Grant.
Clint| 11.8.11 @ 6:36PM
RINO-CINO ,The Smear Artist,
"It has been widely reported that Ron Paul
Has touched the private parts of at least
Four thousand women.
No complaints have been filed."
Oh ! He's An OBGYN Doctor.
Never Mind.
Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 7:53PM
As they say: Never trust a guy who has two first names and no last. Always up to no good!
Teflon93| 11.8.11 @ 7:08PM
I cannot wait until the oppo tsunami hits Romney Beach and you RINOs have to try to walk back the garbage you spewed to lynch Cain.
Deaf ears will be evident all around.
bluecollarbytes| 11.8.11 @ 7:31PM
by the way, Mr Kaminsky,
heard you radio-host on KOA this past Saturday. You have the 'radio talent' as they say. Very interesting and a pleasant surprise on a normally-dead radio-Saturday.
Constance| 11.8.11 @ 9:32PM
To declare any candidate's aspirations as over because of the accusations of some women - none of who we have even seen except for one, and absolutely no proof provided other than their words, is really ludicrous. This isn't how to fight a war, and we are in a war for the future of this country. You don't turn tail and run. You stand and fight. If Mr. Cain is innocent, I will stand right beside him and fight for his right to be right where he is. I have seen or heard nothing so far, particularly in the shambles of a statement put out by Miss Bialek and the lech Gloria Allred, that tells me Mr. Cain is anything other than a decent man.
Simon Templar| 11.9.11 @ 12:19AM
Ross,
Here is a video I suggest you watch that I think will help your confused state and your spinelessness. Ask yourself if the man in this film would say we are helpless and throw his hands up in the air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
Highsider| 12.9.11 @ 4:09PM
There is and always has been, a moderate sized undercurrent of integrity and financial responsibility challenged people within our population. The Democratic Party and their captive media have, for the last couple of decades, tapped ever deeper into that questionable resource for darkening/warping/smearing brushes, with which to Photoshop the images of individuals they perceive as serious political threats and who have risen to the top for the moment.
Thus far they have used only women who were supposedly of legal age at the time of their never proven and always late allegations. However, at the cubic rate of growth of the use of this tactic on the left, we may look for the same shaky stories from the same sex and underage at the time, genres also. Especially so considering the current popularity of (experimental?) combinations of both in the media lately against other than political figures and as we witness the devastatingly lethal effects upon both the target and everyone around them.
There seems to be no good legal response to the tactic, since once the target is tried and found guilty in the news media, the usual court remedies are no longer viable, seeming only to create more grit for the media mill and in practice, requiring the victim to prove his innocence rather than the accuser to prove any guilt.
And the really good news for the Democratic operatives? Whatever the final outcome, it will be well after the election in question.