I am very sorry to hear, just now, about the death of former
world heavyweight champion boxer Joe Frazier at age 67.
I have come to strongly disapprove of the sport of boxing, for
reasons I won't get into now. But there was a time when heavyweight
boxing, especially, commanded as much attention as any sport in the
country or indeed on the whole planet. In the early 1970s, you had
to choose: You were either a Muhammad Ali man, or you were a
Smokin' Joe man. Ali was a braggart, a loudmouth, a verbal
cheat-shot artist willing to play racial stereotypes against other
blacks, and not just a draft dodger but a hypocritical one who
claimed allegiance to Islam (or a version thereof) for purposes of
avoiding the Vietnamese War while not even coming close to living
up to a number of its tenets. Joe Frazier, on the other hand, was
just a hard-working, straightforward, gutsy, overachieving (as a
short-ish man by heavyweight standards, his "reach" was
significantly more constrained than the reach of most of his
longer-armed opponents) fighter. There was a dignity of sorts to
him, an "everyman" quality of a guy from the streets; in some ways
he was the black "Rocky" (as in Stallone, not Marciano) before the
fictional Rocky ever was filmed.
I liked what I saw of Joe Frazier. I liked his work ethic and
his physical courage. I liked that he wasn't a braggart.
This was a man whose most famous fight ever was an epic loss
(although he also, of course, won some major victories), in the
justly famous, hugely entertaining "thrilla in Manila." But Smokin'
Joe was a winner. R.I.P.
Very nice remembrance, Quin--and right on the money. Just like
Joe.
PCC| 11.8.11 @ 12:30AM
A nice tribute which articulates very clearly why Frazier was
considered the "white man's fighter" when he faced Ali.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 11:11AM
Bingo Quin!
You were either an "Ali" man or for Frazier.
All instinctive conservatives gravitated towards Frazier, who
like Foreman, loved the country, and against that idiot
Clay/"Ali."
I didn't like Ali then.
I don't like Ali now.
I never liked Ali and I never will.
Because he's a jerk, he's always been a jerk.
Oldefarte| 11.8.11 @ 3:48PM
A sad day indeed! I watched closed circuit TV of one of the
Ali-Frazier boxing matches and it was classic. Ali, apart from his
personal liabilities, was by far the very best boxer that the sport
has ever produced, simply because of his athletesism [he just took
a boxing match beyond a punching event]. Frazier was apparently a
decent human being and it's truely sad as to his passing. May the
Almighty bless and keep him!!!!!
pmb| 11.8.11 @ 12:08AM
Very nice remembrance, Quin--and right on the money. Just like Joe.
PCC| 11.8.11 @ 12:30AM
A nice tribute which articulates very clearly why Frazier was considered the "white man's fighter" when he faced Ali.
Dan| 11.8.11 @ 11:11AM
Bingo Quin!
You were either an "Ali" man or for Frazier.
All instinctive conservatives gravitated towards Frazier, who like Foreman, loved the country, and against that idiot Clay/"Ali."
I didn't like Ali then.
I don't like Ali now.
I never liked Ali and I never will.
Because he's a jerk, he's always been a jerk.
Oldefarte| 11.8.11 @ 3:48PM
A sad day indeed! I watched closed circuit TV of one of the Ali-Frazier boxing matches and it was classic. Ali, apart from his personal liabilities, was by far the very best boxer that the sport has ever produced, simply because of his athletesism [he just took a boxing match beyond a punching event]. Frazier was apparently a decent human being and it's truely sad as to his passing. May the Almighty bless and keep him!!!!!