Over at Michelle Malkin’s
Hot Air, Ed Morrissey has made an
interesting discovery.
It turns out pollster Chris Wilson worked for the National
Restaurant Association while Herman Cain was head of the group.
Wilson told Oklahoma station KTOK in Oklahoma City
that
I was the pollster at the National Restaurant Association
when Herman Cain was head of it and I was around a couple of times
when this happened and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the
time, knew that this was gonna come up….This occurred at a
restaurant in Crystal City (Virginia) and everybody was aware of
it. It was only a matter of time because so many people were aware
of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the
fact she left — everybody knew with the campaign that this would
eventually come up.
And what is Mr. Wilson doing now?
He is polling for a client named Governor Rick
Perry.
Doubtless developing.
Bumr50| 11.2.11 @ 3:28PM
Works for a pro-Perry PAC?
Check.
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....incidents/
Used to work for Karl Rove?
Check.
“Wilson served as Executive Director of the Republican Party of Texas when President George W. Bush was governor, working directly for Karl Rove, and following Karen Hughes when she left the Party to join the campaign.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wilson_(pollster)
Now he’s saying that HE can’t legally discuss it?
More BS from this partisan hit.
Case closed.
NEXT!
Tushie| 11.2.11 @ 5:21PM
Too obvious. Here's another one for you to to work on:
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....67478.html
What do we know about the guy who leaked the story in an interview, this "Mark Block" fellow? Why would he bring it up without being asked? And why is this conservative talk show host named Deace emailing Politico about things he allegedly heard Cain saying to Deace's female employees? Deace used to work for Huckabee ... do we know who he supports now? Could it be Perry by any chance? That would explain a lot.
W| 11.2.11 @ 3:30PM
Why not just ask Perry if his people leaked the story. Makes sense it is Perry since Perry and Cain appeal to and are fighting for the same voters.
CalMark| 11.2.11 @ 3:46PM
Has anyone else noticed?
Ever since this trashy libel broke, Cain is spending all his time defending himself against shadowy accusations from unnamed accusers on unknown actual charges.
That means he can't keep pushing his 9-9-9 plan and other ideas for the economy. And it sets him up nicely for assault by other Republicans on Tuesday, November 8.
No coincidence here. This is a lynching, plain and simple. And the Republicans (shame on you, Michelle Bachmann, especially since you're no longer a viable candidate and you're stealing conservative support that Cain could use against Romney) are enthusiastically disregarding the 11th Commandment.
I wasn't a fan a month ago, but Cain is growing on me. GOP, MSM, Bachmann: Scum, the lot of you.
Mal_Content| 11.2.11 @ 4:03PM
"Ever since this trashy libel broke, Cain is spending all his time defending himself against shadowy accusations from unnamed accusers on unknown actual charges."
I'm not convinced that this bullshit sexual harassment story is a net negative for Cain. Before the Politico story, most of the attention was on Cain's "lack of substance" or unpreparedness in debates...or whatever. Compare that coverage to now, where Cain has been accused of something for which there is so far no evidence to support other than the fact that it is on record as having been looked into and dismissed...but nobody is talking about how poorly-thought-out the 9-9-9 plan is anymore.
Hell, I think I read that his contributions have increased as a result of this distraction.
I won't vote for Cain, but I'd wager this media circus helps him if and when he clears himself of these charges.
DRed| 11.2.11 @ 4:01PM
Lousy leftists on the Perry campaign. Bunch of racists if you ask me.
Jeffrey Lord| 11.2.11 @ 4:05PM
I said there are two possibilities:
Another GOP candidate.
The left.
But the fact that this is a cause celebre in the left media tells you all you need to know, no matter who leaked it. This left wing reaction is as predictable as swallows in Capistrano.
DRed| 11.2.11 @ 4:26PM
Well, of course. I don't see how the republican reaction would be any different if Mr. Cain was a democrat. As it stands right now I don't think the story is a big deal, but politics is a dirty business. And as Mal_Content points out, this story is currently helping Mr. Cain.
Simon Templar| 11.2.11 @ 6:05PM
The difference is you and your lefty controlled media cover up ACTUAL wrong doing of your politicians and candidates whereas the GOP and conservatives have to defend themselves against slander, lies, libel, and accusations of alleged wrong doing.
If a GOP candidate or politician is guilty of wrong doing, they usually resign and often resign for less offensive behavior whereas your pol gets relected, attacks and defames the accusers, or wins a peace prize. So, yes, it would be different.
DRed| 11.2.11 @ 7:05PM
Just this year two Democratic congressmen have resigned after being caught in sex scandals (Wu and Weiner). Herman's poll numbers have gone up since this story broke and in general the conservative media have been pro-Cain. I'm not sure you're right, Simon. My sense is that the public has become less tolerant of these sorts of things. I guess we'll see. Do you think Mr. Cain should drop out? Right now I don't think he should.
CalMark| 11.2.11 @ 8:00PM
History:
Bill Clinton and rape.
Teddy Kennedy and accessory to rape.
Barney Frank's live-in boyfriend running a whorehouse out of their D.C. home (Poor Barney didn't know.)
Yep, Democrats sure have a hard time defending themselves.
crazy| 11.2.11 @ 4:42PM
It's easy to speculate but what needs to be said is simply "put up or shut up." Chris Wilson is doing nothing to help himself or his various clients.
If it's true he's hiding behind a supposed legal agreement to protect someone who shouldn't be president and if it's not true he's using his 15 minutes to unfairly undermine both Cain and his other clients.
conservative bob| 11.2.11 @ 4:50PM
Lest we be guilty of trading in the as yet unsubstantiated I think it woudl be wise to waite for more concrete details than are yet available. Rush spoke of an individual that had ties to both the NRA and another candidate but not to the point of making an accusation.
Keep you powder dry until you have a known confirmed target. Certainly a bit more than this or that person was associated with NRA and is now associated with this or that campaign.
The truth of this will come out and then we can decide the proper response.
PirateKing| 11.2.11 @ 4:51PM
Ben Domenech, who writes the Transom email newsletter (which I highly recommend), thinks Romney pushed the original story. His argument is that Perry's team has been too discombobulated to figure something like this out, let alone push it anonymously, until just recently and that in any case if they'd had the goods to take down Cain they'd have done so prior to his surge. Romney, on the other hand, has an oppo research unit, and is calculating enough (remember how he got his allies to change Nevada's caucus date, pushing the calendar up?) to wait for Cain to raise enough money to stay in the race for a while before wounding him. Now Cain is damaged, to what extent we don't know yet but can keep running ads and campaigning and the anti-Romney vote stays fragmented.
C Bowen | 11.2.11 @ 5:06PM
The word on the street for the moment, is to take a look at Romney supporter Steven Anderson who followed Cain as CEO for the NRA.
http://northernvirginialawyer......urant.html
Anyway, Republicans should dial down the outrage. If this came out the day before an election (See George W Drunk Driving) that is the fault of the Bush campaign, not the Gore campaign who leaked it.
It's worth considering someone in the Cain camp leaked it, and while Cain didn't play it great, it had to be dealt with.
Of course Lord likes to prove his anti-racist bonafides so he screams racism like a OWS hippie.
Bob| 11.2.11 @ 6:09PM
This is so delicious, GOPukers annihilating other Pukers. Give me credit I wrote in a previous post Governor Cowpuke is dragging down what’s left of the Republican scum into the gutter with him. Next up W-I-L-L-A-R-D, I wonder what juicy salacious stuff he has on this rat, the plague no doubt.
Clint| 11.2.11 @ 7:00PM
A Refrigerator Could Beat Your Slave Master Obama With These Economic Numbers.
" The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 20% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -22 "
John - TMF| 11.2.11 @ 7:05PM
Here is a classic situation. I offer hypothesis and possibilities that I will leave up to the reader libel I am not going to be hit with....
(Note: besides being a standard tactic that I am outlining, it also must adhere to Occam's Razor)
We have Candidate A, Candidate B, and Candidate C
Candidate A is an insider with all of the money and contacts. He has been working for years building and funding an organization, mostly with his own assets.
Candidate B is an experienced politician with a large load of cash, a politically viable relationship to donors and support, but is not really catching on just yet, but given a level playing field and a lack of other similar candidates would be a viable choice.
Candidate C is a attractive, compelling outsider. He is an amateur with a largely outsider campaign staff, and an appeal to voters for whom the inside has become a non-qualifier. These supporters for the most part cannot be counted on by A, but could be counted on by B, if C was out of the race.
The first rule of a political "hit" is never look guilty.
The second rule is always find a patsy to blame, if it is another candidate, then that is even better.
So B gets slimed by nasty story planted in a national source noted for its opposition to everything any of the 3 candidates stands for... (Washington Post... er um... I mean Politico's Macaca Machine)
C - in looking for a clue and some talent picks up political consultant(s) some of whom have former close associations with A and B as well, it is a small world in that neck of the woods.
The question is, in this touchy wounded passive aggressive world, "cui bono?"
Who benefits the most from a spitting, slapping blame fest between B and C?
Just asking.... just asking...
r/TMF
bluecollarbytes| 11.2.11 @ 7:07PM
hmmmm, chris wilson....Chris Wilson....CHRIS WILSON- perry aid
so many playas, it's getting hard to remember them all.
Nite| 11.2.11 @ 7:08PM
This is the third time that Cain has trashed Governor Perry on national TV. Perry's campaign has been disorganized, no way they could come up with this, and besides, this is not Perry's style. Cain has no evidence except a Perry aide used to work for Cain. This story came out before the aide started with Perry. The Perry campaign said they had nothing to do with this situation. Cain should have realized this would come out. This was handled poorly. However, to attack Governor without any confirmed evidence is very poor behavior on the part of Herman Cain.
Tushie| 11.2.11 @ 7:27PM
"Perry's campaign has been disorganized, no way they could come up with this, "
Now that's just downright silly. Perry has been running campaigns for a long time. He has an excellent campaign team. He's flubbed some debates but otherwise there's nothing disorganized about his campaign. I'm not saying Perry's team pushed the story but it's downright silly to say that they wouldn't be able to do the oppo research on something as widely known as this was and slip the info to Politico.
Jeffrey Lord| 11.2.11 @ 7:15PM
Excuse me.
Is Jessica Fletcher in the house?
Bob| 11.2.11 @ 7:46PM
Now there is suspicion Romney's campaign is involved, a Romney toady who succeeded Cain is the leaker. I smell a conspiracy the white boys Perry and Romney ganging up and politically lynching poor old Herman. This is putting me in a political state of nirvana.
CalMark| 11.2.11 @ 8:01PM
You asshole.
Eric L| 11.2.11 @ 9:10PM
I agree with earlier analysis - Romney benefits by trying to cap Cain's rise. The first glance wisdom is Cain is taking votes from Perry, therefore Perry's camp would benefit if Cain were out. It also fits with the line of thinking "Perry is a racist". This back and forth benefits Romney, while he appears to stay above the fray, just as he has done in the debates. Cain was inclined to dislike Perry anyway, it's a win/win for Romney - Cain's support drops (in theory) while Perry looks bad/guilty. Have to keep the conservatives fighting so nobody solidifies against the democrat in their midst.
W| 11.2.11 @ 9:58PM
Cain's campaign manager accused the Perry campaign of leaking this story.
Perry was on Hannity tonite, and he is awful. He again said that Romney intetionally hired illegal aliens to mow his lawn and that Romney should have checked all the employees of the landscaper.
On the in-state tuition he repeated the nonsense that it was a choice of letting these people go by the wayside or go to college and become taxpayers. He is desperate, making desperate comments, and doing desperate things like leaking this story.
JGwen| 11.3.11 @ 7:54AM
I’m not for Romney, whose take on his personal illegal alien hires was: October 19, 2011 – Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office For Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’
In other words if he WASN'T running for office it wouldn't make a difference. That was the point of the exchange. If he would present a different "image" when he runs for office (than the truth of the matter asserted) ... one suspects that if elected, his positions on spending something less than trillions to address "Global Warming" and some other slight of hand re National Health Insurance, might result.
One further notes Romney Twice – Approved Free Non-emergency Health Care for Illegal Immigrants” in Massachusetts.
Romney's assertions re Texas policies have to be considered in light of his own past positions re illegal aliens.
Re the "Texas Dream Act"
Texas legislators and citizens support it.
A substantial portion of Texas revenues come from all persons present in Texas who are buying things (sales tax) and property taxes (think rental income).
The Governor has said he is not for a National Dream Act or Amnesty.
Then 12 additional states have state "Dream Acts" likely paid for with State citizen's income tax revenues. An additional 10 have such legislation in the works.
Generally across the Nation, compliance with Simpson-Mazzoli by the Federal Agencies, the Administration and the States has been spotty.
To feign offense, directing it specifically at Texas and Governor Perry is disingenuous at best!
burt| 11.2.11 @ 11:48PM
The Cain staff are idiots and have handled this situation by deflecting by smearing Perry a perosn that Cain has smeared numerous times while he has left Mittes alone.
But, Cain's manager smearing a rival on national TV places nicely into Axelrod /E Rahm set up smear here.
This obvious set by Politico ( Kenny Vogel the former Soros staffer and Johnny Martin the Obama JournOlist ) working with Axelrod to destroy as many GOP options is working thanks to Cain's inability to handle the situation with dignity and grace is a telling sign.
Clinton| 11.3.11 @ 2:15AM
Actually he works for a non-related PAC.
The best way Cain could have handled this scandal was to acknowledge he voted for Bill Clinton twice and just following the lead of his guy in the White House. The Democrats would now know his pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-Muslim jihadist, anti-Israel and ignorance about China's nuclear arsenal make him one of them -- a covert Democrat.