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The Spectacle Blog
A few thoughts, here. Key line: What part of the word “illegal” do some people not understand?
NumberTwoPencil| 10.20.11 @ 6:15PM
Italians came and learned our language. So did Poles. So did Germans. So have people of all nationalities always done.
Often they didn't. Their kids did, but they didn't. Their kids learned English because they went to school here. As the kids got older they translated for their parents.
Even today it's not hard to find immigrants who don't speak English. Go to Chinatown, etc. It's not hard to find kids who grow up speaking a different language until they go to kindergarten, because no English is spoken in the home.
JimH| 10.21.11 @ 8:19AM
The ability to speak English among immigrants varies. Sometimes with the same person and depends on the reason for doing so at the time. I was in a jury pool in Queens some years back and many others in the pool were naturalized citizens. It was remarkable to see how many claimed to not have sufficient English skills to serve in a jury.
btims| 10.20.11 @ 6:29PM
Two things have changed: 1) we have lost pride in ourselves and no longer gently push immigrants to assimilate) the sheer numbers of immigrants (legal and illegal) are ovewhelming the system and 3) the public school system is almost completely run by not just liberals but hardcore leftists, who are obsessed with "diversity and multi-culturalism", which believes immigrant children should be taught in thier own native language.
Thus, we are not "creating Americans" anymore. It's all for not anyway, it's too late. We are no longer a sovereign nation anymore, we're just one member of the UN/world government. If we can't control our borders, can't say who can come in and who can't, then we really aren't sovereign.
ncatty| 10.21.11 @ 4:22PM
I agree. The question facing the Latino/Hispanic group is do you want to become another successful immigrant group or become an assembly of victims. If the former, I congratulate you. If the latter, the Democrats will gladly keep you aggrieved.
rssg| 10.20.11 @ 7:35PM
Personally I prefer to live in a country where Caucasians are the large majority and English is the language and Christianity is the predominant religion.
Does that make me a hate-mongering racist?
Even if it does, I really don't care. Every race/ethnicity prefers to live among their own "type". Latinos, Muslims, Chinese, Indians, you name it, "uniformity is strength!"
bobmontgomery| 10.20.11 @ 7:43PM
People who promote disrespect and disregard for the law do so at their own peril. When the terrorists sneaks in with the rest of the illegals, he will not distinguish between left-wing media and right-wing talk radio. He is an equal opportunity, diverse and multicultural bomber.
JimH| 10.21.11 @ 8:58AM
The remarkable thing implicit in this blog is the fact that some people are actually sneaking into Alabama.
Quin| 10.21.11 @ 10:26AM
Of course they are. After eight years of Bob Riley as governor, Alabama has become a great place to work and do business!
Oldefarte| 10.21.11 @ 2:19PM
I didn't '''''sneak''''' into Alabama, I moved here VOLUNTARILY [and I'm damned glad that I chose to do so]. ROOOOOOLLLLLL TIDE! Someone once informed me if traveling motorists traveling from Louisiana to Florida ever stop in Alabama en route, they probably will like Alabama so much that they will not leave [contineue their trip]!!!!!!!!
Bob K.| 10.21.11 @ 9:48AM
Quin,
As Dudley Do-right responded to Inspector Fenwick in one episode of the Rocky and Bullwinkle show: "But if it's in the newspaper it must be true!"
We are a nation of "do-rights." And we vote. So much for democracy, it will survive; likely our freedoms won't, but it will be done democratically.
The press is corrupt, Quin. It is interested only in profits. Controversy causes news. News sells advertising. More advertising makes more profits for the press. Long primary campaigns raise advertising revenue. The press gets richer and more powerful. Reporters have their e-mail address under their columns, they have facebook pages. They can use these to take to their publishers when seeking raises. More revenue from more advertising means higher wages.
Get the picture?
USSAlabama| 10.21.11 @ 11:53AM
Quinn,
I read this with interest - you are right about the media here, including some of the talk radio(!).
I think our law (Alabama's Immigration Law) really points an issue not discussed, more than any of the other states that have tried one:
States should have the ability to issue migrant work permits.
All of the screamers about not having field hands actually have a legitimate point - I don't know ONE unemployed person who will drive an hour or two away to pick produce for minimum wage.
Not one.
I think the law is good but falls short on addressing a need for making migrant work legal and temporary:
States should have the power to issue TEMPORARY migrant worker visas, they should be easy to get as well. This tells the state WHO is here, how many, and where to find them when that permit expires.
Please respond.
Oldefarte| 10.21.11 @ 2:25PM
Obama/Democrats [especially the Justice Dept and Holder] favortism od illegal immigration does not originate from kindness/generosity. Instead, they selfishly wish to curry favor with Hispanics by turning a blind eye toward enforcement of the federal immigration law [and correspondingly suing individual states over same]. Bottom line: they want to obtain the votes of Hispanics at election time. They do not give a rat's ars about any minority grouping, but only use same politically for the favorable votes for Democrat candidates that such partiality generates. Correspondingly, such minorities are STUPIDLY brainwashed in believing that the Democratic Party is looking out for their best interests, when in fact the only thing said Democrats are looking out for is their own political rear-ends!!!!!!!
MyGirlFriday| 10.21.11 @ 2:58PM
Those Alabama farmer's who are screaming (if they really are) should take note of what has recently happened in California. The governor, Jerry Brown just passed a law giving illegal immigrant farm workers the right to unionize. They already receive free health care, education, housing subsidies, foods stamps and more. We are a state chalked full of sanctuary cities which is draining us dry. We have deficits as far as the eye can see. Alabama, saw the need to stop the bleeding of the states resources. How the state of Alabama handles or balances its illegal alien population in the days ahead, is that states business not the federal governments. Those farmer's who are screaming need to come up with a migrant worker plan that will benefit the entire state not just them. There is no reason why the tax payers of Alabama should subsidize farmers or any other industry for that fact.
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