I was struck by this passage from President Obama's
speech today before the UN General Assembly:
The Jewish people have forged a successful state in their
historic homeland. Israel deserves recognition. It deserves normal
relations with its neighbors. And friends of the Palestinians do
them no favors by ignoring this truth, just as friends of Israel
must recognize the need to pursue a two-state solution with a
secure Israel next to an independent Palestine.
That is the truth -- each side has legitimate aspirations -- and
that's part of what makes peace so hard. And the deadlock will
only be broken when each side learns to stand in the other's shoes;
each side can see the world through the other's eyes. (Italics
mine) That's what we should be encouraging, That's what we should
be promoting.
What makes Obama think that Israelis haven't been willing to
stand in the shoes of the Palestinians and see things through their
eyes? How does Obama care to explain an organization like Peace Now? Or how about IDF
soldiers who refused to
serve in Gaza and the West Bank? Over the course of the
past two decades, Israelis have elected dovish Labor governments
led by Yitzhak Rabin and Ehud Barak who favored exchanging land for
peace. So no, the problem isn't the unwillingness of Israelis
willing to stand in Palestinian shoes and see things their way. But
what happens to Palestinians who want rapprochement with Israel?
The Palestinians consider them
collaborators and have them executed without trial.
What's there to negotiate when the other side wants you dead?
Case closed.
Jack in Wi.| 9.22.11 @ 2:48AM
Another American President grovels before the vile Israeli
Lobby. Oh well! Obama has been a tool of the Lobby his whole
career. He was groomed by the West Side Jewish branch of the
Chicago Machine, They have always been his main supporters and
advisors. Most of his key aides have been and still are Jews. For
the life of me I can't see why people would ever call Obama
anything but a complete tool of Israel and it's Lobby.
Kingofthenet| 9.21.11 @ 6:17PM
Does Israel not name things after it's war hero's?
Occam's Tool| 9.21.11 @ 8:58PM
Israel doesn't name them after people who take their time
beheading 3 month olds, Queen.
Kingofthenet| 9.21.11 @ 10:38PM
How about 'Gunship' captains who kill 'terrorists'?....and a
bunch of kids standing nearby?
Kingofthenet| 9.21.11 @ 10:41PM
I just got this in, Hamas just told me they will trade in their
suicide vests and 'terror' tactics for some Apache helicopters and
Abrams tanks...
Dixie Pixie| 9.21.11 @ 7:18PM
The highlighted was a standard Liberal phrase and merely uttered
because it sounded good to Liberal ears.
Like all the rhetoric of Obama's speeches, it means nothing and
implies nothing.
It is simply an aura artwork which vanished as soon as the words
were uttered.
Aura.....an invisible emanation produced by and surrounding a
person and discernible by individuals of super-normal sensibility
or Ivy League training.
Aura Artwork is a good description of any Obama speech.
The UN speech was no execption.
Bigmo| 9.22.11 @ 3:41AM
The article fails to point to the fact that Israel is still
taking land from the Palis as we speak. If they are soo woriied
about Arab terrorism and Iranian nukes, while build more
settlements?
This tells me that this is just a distraction from the real goal
which is to take more land from the Palis and let America do the
fighting.
lisa| 9.22.11 @ 9:17AM
Your web policy says don't feed the trolls but that is mostly
what you have here. Why would "Palestinian" supporters read this
article in the first place? What do these supporters really want?
How do they expect Israel to exist as a State? Why don't they ever
mention Gaza and what happened when Arabs got that land back? Its
my belief they don't support Israel's right to exist at all - they
won't say it because it isn't politically correct.
Dee| 9.22.11 @ 5:54PM
You pointed out that in his speech, he said:
"And the deadlock will only be broken when each side learns to
stand in the other's shoes; each side can see the world through the
other's eyes. "
THEN, you said: "What makes Obama think that Israelis haven't
been willing to stand in the shoes of the Palestinians and see
things through their eyes?"
Either you're not an active listener or you heard him but didn't
want to because you simply don't like him.
When a person says, 'in EACH OTHER'S' _______ (fill in the
blank), that's what it means. He SAID that EACH of them needs to
imagine what it must be like to be the other. That would suggest
that at least one side is not doing that. He SAID for each to
consider the other and essentially, "Put yourself in my position,"
so that they EACH can learn to relate to the dynamics that make
their positions what they are, AND can, ideally, reach a
satisfactory compromise.
Finally, if you heard and actively listened to the entire
speech, you'd have heard the POTUS' admonishment toward Palestine.
If you miss THAT, it's because you wanted to.
PattyMor| 9.21.11 @ 5:42PM
What's there to negotiate when the other side wants you dead? Case closed.
Jack in Wi.| 9.22.11 @ 2:48AM
Another American President grovels before the vile Israeli Lobby. Oh well! Obama has been a tool of the Lobby his whole career. He was groomed by the West Side Jewish branch of the Chicago Machine, They have always been his main supporters and advisors. Most of his key aides have been and still are Jews. For the life of me I can't see why people would ever call Obama anything but a complete tool of Israel and it's Lobby.
Kingofthenet| 9.21.11 @ 6:17PM
Does Israel not name things after it's war hero's?
Occam's Tool| 9.21.11 @ 8:58PM
Israel doesn't name them after people who take their time beheading 3 month olds, Queen.
Kingofthenet| 9.21.11 @ 10:38PM
How about 'Gunship' captains who kill 'terrorists'?....and a bunch of kids standing nearby?
Kingofthenet| 9.21.11 @ 10:41PM
I just got this in, Hamas just told me they will trade in their suicide vests and 'terror' tactics for some Apache helicopters and Abrams tanks...
Dixie Pixie| 9.21.11 @ 7:18PM
The highlighted was a standard Liberal phrase and merely uttered because it sounded good to Liberal ears.
Like all the rhetoric of Obama's speeches, it means nothing and implies nothing.
It is simply an aura artwork which vanished as soon as the words were uttered.
Aura.....an invisible emanation produced by and surrounding a person and discernible by individuals of super-normal sensibility or Ivy League training.
Aura Artwork is a good description of any Obama speech.
The UN speech was no execption.
Bigmo| 9.22.11 @ 3:41AM
The article fails to point to the fact that Israel is still taking land from the Palis as we speak. If they are soo woriied about Arab terrorism and Iranian nukes, while build more settlements?
This tells me that this is just a distraction from the real goal which is to take more land from the Palis and let America do the fighting.
lisa| 9.22.11 @ 9:17AM
Your web policy says don't feed the trolls but that is mostly what you have here. Why would "Palestinian" supporters read this article in the first place? What do these supporters really want? How do they expect Israel to exist as a State? Why don't they ever mention Gaza and what happened when Arabs got that land back? Its my belief they don't support Israel's right to exist at all - they won't say it because it isn't politically correct.
Dee| 9.22.11 @ 5:54PM
You pointed out that in his speech, he said:
"And the deadlock will only be broken when each side learns to stand in the other's shoes; each side can see the world through the other's eyes. "
THEN, you said: "What makes Obama think that Israelis haven't been willing to stand in the shoes of the Palestinians and see things through their eyes?"
Either you're not an active listener or you heard him but didn't want to because you simply don't like him.
When a person says, 'in EACH OTHER'S' _______ (fill in the blank), that's what it means. He SAID that EACH of them needs to imagine what it must be like to be the other. That would suggest that at least one side is not doing that. He SAID for each to consider the other and essentially, "Put yourself in my position," so that they EACH can learn to relate to the dynamics that make their positions what they are, AND can, ideally, reach a satisfactory compromise.
Finally, if you heard and actively listened to the entire speech, you'd have heard the POTUS' admonishment toward Palestine. If you miss THAT, it's because you wanted to.