Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson
has qualified for Thursday night's Fox News debate, cracking 1
percent support in five different polls.
This is Jim's territory, but Johnson will be vying with Ron Paul
for the "pro-liberty" vote: while he has no chance of winning a
general election (sorry, Paul and Johnson fans), he will bring a
number of important issues into the mainstream discussion. For
instance, he favors legalization of marijuana, is opposed to a
fence along the Mexican border, and is generally
anti-interventionist. Unlike Paul, he has a record of executive
experience. He was a two-term governor, and a budget-cutter. He
prides himself on issuing more vetoes than any other
governor.
As a successful former governor, Johnson deserves a spot on the
debate stage. His presence, however, will represent a step backward
for the GOP in at least one key way. While every other Republican
candidate is strongly pro-life, including both Ron Paul and
(perhaps less strongly) the formerly pro-choice Mitt Romney,
Johnson is proudly
pro-choice.
Let's focus on his ideas rather than instantly insisting he has
no chance. Why? Why does he have no chance? Because some media
gatekeepers proclaim it so? Let the American people hear what he
has to say, and let THEM decide.
JAWilson| 9.21.11 @ 7:17AM
I've seen him speaking in interviews, and he has no chance.
Occam's Tool| 9.20.11 @ 6:16PM
He has no chance because he actively and continuously personally
breaks Federal Law. He's a Pothead.
Occam's Tool| 9.20.11 @ 6:19PM
Gary Johnson, the former New Mexico governor and a likely 2012
Republican presidential candidate, hasn’t been shy about his
support for marijuana legalization or his personal use of the drug
during his younger days. “I never exhaled,” he joked in a recent
interview with The New Republic. But in an interview with THE
WEEKLY STANDARD, Johnson admitted publicly for the first time that
he smoked marijuana more recently—from 2005 to 2008—for medicinal
purposes, he says.
Bob| 9.21.11 @ 7:54AM
Break your leg and then climb Mt. Everest seven weeks later,
then I might listen to your drivel. Johnson is by far the
healthiest and most consistently principled candidate. He's also
the only candidate with executive experience at doing (not talking
about doing) the fiscal actions needed in this country.
PattyMor| 9.20.11 @ 6:28PM
I have personally come to the conclusion that criminalizing
drugs hasn't worked, except to create lots of criminals. Why not
just make adults responsible for their choices?
But, If you can't support a border fence, then you are too
stupid to acknowledge that billions of dollars are being stolen
from citiziens from educating the children of illegals, food
stamps, refundable tax credits, medicaid, and other social
services. BAnd, housing illegal criminals in our jails, just ask
Sheriff Joe.
Occam's Tool| 9.20.11 @ 11:42PM
Mr. Johnson also personally worsened Mental Health care in New
Mexico to a terrible degree, as well. Worthless guy. Only better
than Bill Richardson, which says not much.
Bob| 9.21.11 @ 7:58AM
I can see this affected you directly. :-)
Bob| 9.21.11 @ 8:02AM
Maybe you should like, I don't know, actually listen to what
Johnson proposes instead of a fence. He makes a lot of sense. By
the way, if all those welfare items weren't provided by the
government, would you still object to immigration?
Martin Hutchinson| 9.20.11 @ 6:45PM
This guy is like Huntsman; he's only there to make the real
candidates look bad -- in his case the main victim is likely to be
Ron Paul, who keeps strengthening in the polls in spite of
interminable denigration by the MSM and the neocon media. I suspect
a liberal media/neocon conspiracy.
I can fairly happily support Bachmann or Perry in a general, but
Paul appears to me a better candidate than either, with more chance
to beat Obama because of his appeal to youth.
Clint| 9.20.11 @ 7:29PM
" Ron Paul in third place, polls say.
According to the USA Today/Gallup poll released on Tuesday, Paul
was at 13%, displacing Rep. Michele Bachmann, who fell to 5% and
into a three-way dead heat with former House speaker Newt Gingrich
and businessman Herman Cain.
Paul’s latest showing mirrors what was seen in a recent CNN/ORC
International poll in which Paul was also in third place with 13%
of the vote. He was behind Perry, in the top slot in both polls,
and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, once the front-runner,
but now in second place. For Paul, that jump to 13% represents a
doubling of his support."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
O. B. Server| 9.20.11 @ 8:25PM
Ron Paul and Gary Johnson contrast nicely with the pro-tyranny
pro-cannonfodder pro-flag pro-jingo pro-fake-money but anti-freedom
crowd.
The GOP needs to live up to its platitudes - that would make a
most refreshing change.
JimH| 9.21.11 @ 7:59AM
Kind of sad really that not all Republican candidates are viewed
as appealing to the 'pro liberty' vote'
It's about time! The American voters, not the establishment
press, are the ones who elect the President. Allowing the media to
pick winners and losers this early on is antithetical to our
democratic process. My coverage of the Gary Johnson campaign:
http://www.spatialorientation.com/
Jay| 9.23.11 @ 12:31AM
Gary Johnson is a swell fellow, but Fox only added him as a
favor to Rick Perry, their selected candidate. The more candidates,
the less opportunities Perry has to talk and sound inarticulate. It
is one way for Perry to avoid the debate, without actually avoiding
the debate. It did not quite turn out that way, but that is only
because Perry's capacity for being inarticulate transcends these
stratagems.
Fox may have imagined that Johnson would dilute support for Ron
Paul, but Johnson ended up sounding more like another Newt
Gingrich, just more moderate and wonky.
Fox bending over backwards to accommodate Johnson despite
Johnson’s inability to even approach the margin of error in any
polls is another indication that Paul is gaining, and the
establishment is scared.
Strange how you think Ron Paul could not win in a general
election. If you know anything about Ron Paul's views you should
know that he has the best chance against Obama, better than any of
his opponents.
Think about it: all the other candidates would attract mostly
the traditional Republican voters, but how could Rick Perry or
Michele Bachmann or any of those typical Republicans win over
liberal Democrats, independents from Obama? Well guess what - Ron
Paul's current support includes tens of thousands of liberal
Democrats who voted for Obama in '08. No other Republican candidate
can truly make this extraordinary claim. A group called "Blue
Republicans" was formed by a journalist at the Huffington Post for
Democrats who will register Republican for a year SOLELY to vote
for Ron Paul. Ron Paul's social views can be defined as liberal,
and he wants to bring the troops home - this registers with liberal
Democrats who notice his consistency, and realize that Obama has
failed to make any of the significant change he promised back in
'08.
So Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who can get most of the
average Republican votes, while stealing away would-be Obama votes
from liberal Democrats, and picking up a whole lot of independent
supporters (the ones who never voted before in their lives until
they heard of Ron Paul... yeah, there are thousands). Not to
mention every single libertarian. So if Ron Paul can't win the
general election, sorry to disappoint you, but then no Republican
can.
Joe| 9.20.11 @ 5:59PM
Let's focus on his ideas rather than instantly insisting he has no chance. Why? Why does he have no chance? Because some media gatekeepers proclaim it so? Let the American people hear what he has to say, and let THEM decide.
JAWilson| 9.21.11 @ 7:17AM
I've seen him speaking in interviews, and he has no chance.
Occam's Tool| 9.20.11 @ 6:16PM
He has no chance because he actively and continuously personally breaks Federal Law. He's a Pothead.
Occam's Tool| 9.20.11 @ 6:19PM
Gary Johnson, the former New Mexico governor and a likely 2012 Republican presidential candidate, hasn’t been shy about his support for marijuana legalization or his personal use of the drug during his younger days. “I never exhaled,” he joked in a recent interview with The New Republic. But in an interview with THE WEEKLY STANDARD, Johnson admitted publicly for the first time that he smoked marijuana more recently—from 2005 to 2008—for medicinal purposes, he says.
Bob| 9.21.11 @ 7:54AM
Break your leg and then climb Mt. Everest seven weeks later, then I might listen to your drivel. Johnson is by far the healthiest and most consistently principled candidate. He's also the only candidate with executive experience at doing (not talking about doing) the fiscal actions needed in this country.
PattyMor| 9.20.11 @ 6:28PM
I have personally come to the conclusion that criminalizing drugs hasn't worked, except to create lots of criminals. Why not just make adults responsible for their choices?
But, If you can't support a border fence, then you are too stupid to acknowledge that billions of dollars are being stolen from citiziens from educating the children of illegals, food stamps, refundable tax credits, medicaid, and other social services. BAnd, housing illegal criminals in our jails, just ask Sheriff Joe.
Occam's Tool| 9.20.11 @ 11:42PM
Mr. Johnson also personally worsened Mental Health care in New Mexico to a terrible degree, as well. Worthless guy. Only better than Bill Richardson, which says not much.
Bob| 9.21.11 @ 7:58AM
I can see this affected you directly. :-)
Bob| 9.21.11 @ 8:02AM
Maybe you should like, I don't know, actually listen to what Johnson proposes instead of a fence. He makes a lot of sense. By the way, if all those welfare items weren't provided by the government, would you still object to immigration?
Martin Hutchinson| 9.20.11 @ 6:45PM
This guy is like Huntsman; he's only there to make the real candidates look bad -- in his case the main victim is likely to be Ron Paul, who keeps strengthening in the polls in spite of interminable denigration by the MSM and the neocon media. I suspect a liberal media/neocon conspiracy.
I can fairly happily support Bachmann or Perry in a general, but Paul appears to me a better candidate than either, with more chance to beat Obama because of his appeal to youth.
Clint| 9.20.11 @ 7:29PM
" Ron Paul in third place, polls say.
According to the USA Today/Gallup poll released on Tuesday, Paul was at 13%, displacing Rep. Michele Bachmann, who fell to 5% and into a three-way dead heat with former House speaker Newt Gingrich and businessman Herman Cain.
Paul’s latest showing mirrors what was seen in a recent CNN/ORC International poll in which Paul was also in third place with 13% of the vote. He was behind Perry, in the top slot in both polls, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, once the front-runner, but now in second place. For Paul, that jump to 13% represents a doubling of his support."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
O. B. Server| 9.20.11 @ 8:25PM
Ron Paul and Gary Johnson contrast nicely with the pro-tyranny pro-cannonfodder pro-flag pro-jingo pro-fake-money but anti-freedom crowd.
The GOP needs to live up to its platitudes - that would make a most refreshing change.
JimH| 9.21.11 @ 7:59AM
Kind of sad really that not all Republican candidates are viewed as appealing to the 'pro liberty' vote'
Spatial Orientation| 9.21.11 @ 1:47PM
It's about time! The American voters, not the establishment press, are the ones who elect the President. Allowing the media to pick winners and losers this early on is antithetical to our democratic process. My coverage of the Gary Johnson campaign: http://www.spatialorientation.com/
Jay| 9.23.11 @ 12:31AM
Gary Johnson is a swell fellow, but Fox only added him as a favor to Rick Perry, their selected candidate. The more candidates, the less opportunities Perry has to talk and sound inarticulate. It is one way for Perry to avoid the debate, without actually avoiding the debate. It did not quite turn out that way, but that is only because Perry's capacity for being inarticulate transcends these stratagems.
Fox may have imagined that Johnson would dilute support for Ron Paul, but Johnson ended up sounding more like another Newt Gingrich, just more moderate and wonky.
Fox bending over backwards to accommodate Johnson despite Johnson’s inability to even approach the margin of error in any polls is another indication that Paul is gaining, and the establishment is scared.
Jonathan Taubes| 9.23.11 @ 6:29PM
Strange how you think Ron Paul could not win in a general election. If you know anything about Ron Paul's views you should know that he has the best chance against Obama, better than any of his opponents.
Think about it: all the other candidates would attract mostly the traditional Republican voters, but how could Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann or any of those typical Republicans win over liberal Democrats, independents from Obama? Well guess what - Ron Paul's current support includes tens of thousands of liberal Democrats who voted for Obama in '08. No other Republican candidate can truly make this extraordinary claim. A group called "Blue Republicans" was formed by a journalist at the Huffington Post for Democrats who will register Republican for a year SOLELY to vote for Ron Paul. Ron Paul's social views can be defined as liberal, and he wants to bring the troops home - this registers with liberal Democrats who notice his consistency, and realize that Obama has failed to make any of the significant change he promised back in '08.
So Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who can get most of the average Republican votes, while stealing away would-be Obama votes from liberal Democrats, and picking up a whole lot of independent supporters (the ones who never voted before in their lives until they heard of Ron Paul... yeah, there are thousands). Not to mention every single libertarian. So if Ron Paul can't win the general election, sorry to disappoint you, but then no Republican can.