It is curious to see some of the
commentary concerning my post earlier today regarding Rick
Perry, Ron Paul and the Reagan Revolution.
To sum it up, Paul's defenders make the case that he was right
to say that the Reagan Revolution failed because the results didn't
match up to the rhetoric. Fine. It's a reasonable argument to
make.
But if Paul honestly believes that the Reagan
Revolution ended in failure then why would he authorize a
message which explicitly states that Rick Perry was trying to "undo
the Reagan Revolution"? Paul descends the depths of
disingenuousness for criticizing Perry for trying to undo something
that he himself believed was a complete and utter failure.
Paul wrote basically that the results didn't meet the philosophy
of Reagan in 1976 and 1980. Deficits, debt and no departments cuts.
The philosophy of the Reagan Revolution was about smaller
government. Paul wanted to put that philosophy, which for a large
part failed to be implemented into practice.
Perry on the other hand was for bigger government. He was
diametrically opposed to the Reagan Revolution of small limited
government.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 6:30AM
"EASTON, Md, September 8, 2011 — We have all heard of strong-arm
tactics, and during the commercial break at Wednesday night’s GOP
Presidential debate at the Reagan Library, Texas Governor Rick
Perry was observed doing just that to Congressman Ron Paul
(R-Texas).
A camera caught the action, but no mikes were on, so this is a
perfect example of where actions speak louder than words.
First Perry confronts Paul across the podium of Ambassador Jon
Huntsman. Then they stand nose to nose as Perry harangues Paul.
Next he shakes his finger in Paul’s face as he grabs his arm. Then
he makes one last gesture, perhaps one of giving up in the face of
Ron Paul’s stoic, tight-lipped response. "
Actually, there was one a 'hot-mic'. Gov. Perry, at the behest
of Sen. Rand Paul, was simply suggesting to Cong. Ron Paul to take
his Aricept (meds.) more regularly. Cong. Paul's response was "I am
not delusional, General Custer. The Indians are not a threat!"
PattyMor| 9.9.11 @ 3:51PM
Paul has some very good points on the financial system. I read
his book and basically agreed with him. But Paul's views on foreign
policy are very extreme. He's right that the U.S. is involved in
too many foreign adventures, but we can't just sit back and let
Iran have a bomb. Let's start building some superduper bunker
busters and some bright new shiny bombers to deliver them.
9th ID| 9.9.11 @ 5:31PM
Ron Paul is further Left on social and national security issues
than even most moderate Democrats or even the radical himself,
Obama.
Dick Cheney, Obama and Hillary all favor a policy of replacing
various Middle Eastern heads of state, with radical Islamic
"democrats."
If opposing such insanity is Left, you don't really get the Left
Right dichotomy.
SpiralArchitect| 9.9.11 @ 7:59PM
I looked at your link, Bowen.
Hopefully it was an off day there. :/
Bob K.| 9.9.11 @ 3:52PM
You are going to milk his for all it is worth, aren't you, Mr.
Goldstein?
JP| 9.9.11 @ 3:56PM
I'm not much of a fan of niether politician. However, one must
question Perry in that he spent the entire era of Reagan as a
Democrat. His fellow Texas pols were on the same side of Tip O'Neil
and Robert Byrd.
It's hard to say you're a devotee of the Gipper when you're ate
from the same side of the table as Lloyd Benson and Ann
Richards.
Mrs. Vito| 9.10.11 @ 7:54PM
JP, open your ears. Gov. Perry has explained at numerous times
that yes, he used to be a Democrat, and that at the time, Al Gore
was much more moderate than the internet-inventing, global warming
guru that he has become. This info is easily found if you're truly
interested in the facts...
JP| 9.9.11 @ 3:58PM
Paul in 2008, after mcCain picked Palin, endorsed Marxist
Anti-Semite Cynthia McKinney AND Ralph Naders bids for Presidency
over the GOP ticket. He mindlessly endorsed all 3rd party
candidates.
Sean| 9.9.11 @ 4:21PM
That is just a flat out lie.
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 5:16PM
Here, Paul endorses Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Barr and
Baldwin while refusing to endorse McCain/Palin
That video shows Ron Paul advocating letting third party
candidates into the debates if they are on enough ballots to allow
them to win the Presidency. That is not an endorsement. Also Ron
Paul should never have to endorse a liberal like McCain for
President.
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:00PM
Now,The Rest Of The Story.
" Paul said he's supporting the third-party candidates because
the two major parties and media had "colluded" to avoid discussing
issues and falsely presenting the difference between McCain and
Obama as real.
"I've come to the conclusion, after having spent many years in
politics, is that our presidential elections turn out to be more of
a charade than anything else, and I think that is true today. It is
a charade," he said.
Paul offered an open endorsement to the four candidates because
each signed onto a policy statement that calls for "balancing
budgets, bring troops home, personal liberties and investigating
the Federal Reserve," an aide to the congressman said.
Paul said a strong showing by the third-party candidates would
express the public's frustration with the current system."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
We Will Purge The RINO-CINO's Of The GOP.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:19AM
You're full of excrement, and I challange you to prove that
McCain ever endorced a gutter-criminal like McKinney!!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 4:07PM
Duuuuuuuuhhhhh !
Try Reading What's Written RINO-CINO Fart.
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 3:58PM
In fairness to the Paulistas, the following makes a good point
of comparison: '..... Ron Paul Is Reagan’s True Heir Friday,
September 9, 2011 09:51 AMBy: Doug Wead....Here are the words of
The Gipper, Ronald Reagan, and presidential candidate Ron Paul,
side by side. In 1976, Ron Paul was one of only four congressmen to
support Reagan against the establishment. The two have much in
common.
Ronald Reagan: "The Federal Reserve is answerable to no one."Ron
Paul: "The government will audit a waitress to make sure she pays
taxes on her tips, but they won't audit the Federal Reserve."Ron
Paul: "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected
once it's realized that our liberties and our wealth are in
jeopardy."Ronald Reagan: "If this globe is to live in peace and
prosper, if it is to embrace all the possibilities of the
technological revolution, then nations must renounce, once and for
all, the right to an expansionist foreign policy. Peace between
nations must be an enduring goal, not a tactical stage in a
continuing conflict." Ron Paul: "We cannot spread our greatness and
our goodness through the barrel of a gun. It fails because it
destroys our goodness in the process." Ronald Reagan: "We know too
what happened in the Brezhnev era: greater and greater
expansionism; Afghanistan, economic decay and overwhelming
corruption; a greater and greater burden on the peoples of the
Soviet Union, and on all the peoples of the world." Ron Paul: "This
is usually how empires end, by spending too much money maintaining
their empires. We are now in 130 countries. We have 700 bases
around the world. And it’s going to come to an end. I want it to
come to an end, gracefully and peacefully. Let's just follow the
Constitution and follow a more sensible foreign policy." Ron Paul:
"I think the whole sentiment toward war is shifting. We can’t even
fight without borrowing money from the Chinese. It really doesn’t
matter whether I’m right or wrong. The wars are going to end
because we are going to have such a political and financial havoc
here at home that — with the devaluation of our dollar — that they
will have to stop." Ronald Reagan: "What if we were to ask their
[Russian] mothers, sisters, and sons, do you want war? Ask us, too,
and you'll find the same answer, the same longing in every heart.
People do not make wars; governments do. And no mother would ever
willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic
advantage, for ideology. A people free to choose will always choose
peace. “Americans seek always to make friends of old antagonists.
After a colonial revolution with Britain, we have cemented for all
ages the ties of kinship between our nations. After a terrible
Civil War between North and South, we healed our wounds and found
true unity as a nation. We fought two world wars in my lifetime
against Germany and one with Japan, but now the Federal Republic of
Germany and Japan are two of our closest allies and friends.” Ron
Paul: "Throughout the 20th century, the U.S. has steadily drifted
from the traditional policy of nonintervention, neutrality, and
independence to one of interventionism in the internal affairs of
other nations, covert foreign activity, and broad international
commitments.“This dramatic shift in policy, one of the major U.S.
blunders of this century, is responsible for all of our overseas
military conflicts of the past eight decades, which have resulted
in more than 650,000 Americans killed and 1,130,000 Americans
wounded. "The last two major conflicts, Korea and Vietnam, were
fought without a formal declaration of war. In modern language,
they were ‘police actions.’ Since war was not declared, there was
no commitment to win. Clearly the efforts proved futile, serving
only to tear at the seams of American society.” Ronald Reagan: “The
Soviet-American relationship, once marked by sterility and
confrontation, is now characterized by dialog — realistic, candid
dialog — serious diplomatic progress, and the sights and sounds of
summitry." Ron Paul: “There’s nothing wrong with spreading our
values around the world, but it is wrong to spread them by force.
We should spread them by setting an example.” Ron Paul: “If we
think it is our responsibility is to spread democracy, then let’s
make sure we have it here.” Ron Paul: “Those who advocate the
traditional policy of nonintervention are ridiculed as
isolationists by the authoritarians who want the U.S. to decide all
disputes. Yet it’s their interventionist policies, especially in
the last six years, which have isolated us, reduced our allies, and
increased our enemies.” .......'
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 4:03PM
Doug Weed is a dishonest Idiot.
Given Paul and the Rothbardians hate Ronald Reagan, especially
Reagan's Foreign Policy and wanted Reagan Tried for War Crimes its
even more idiotic.
How about we take Paul quotes and pair them next to Anti-Semites
and George McGovern if we play this game?
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 5:04PM
Maybe so, but many writers fall into that catagory as well. Paul
[and Reagan] make good points in that this country is overextended
militarily, which is costly in terms of casualties and costs. What
does same achieve? Has any country [other than England and Israel]
come to our aid and assistence in our ME military campaigns? We
saved Kuwait from extinction by the Iraqi army, yet did they
reciprocate and offer any assistence after we drove Sadaam back to
Iraq? Did Kuwait give us a say 10% discount on our imported oil
from them? Did Europeon countries support us diplomatically or
militarily after we bailed them out in WWII? After loaning Russia
$billions when they were dying economically, did they thank us by
refraining from building missle armaments in Iran etc? Did Pakistan
thank us after assisting them during Musharaf's term with terrorism
by not selling missle technology to Iran, NK etc [or by not
harboring the terrorist UBL]? No, Paul and Reagan have credible
points and food for thought. No one of sound mind would go
overboard toward Paulisms in proclaiming the need to love our
foreign enemies to death, but our isolation from foreign
intervention could be countered with targeted missled attachs upon
any foreign country that say attacked us 9/11 style etc as a
warning response to same!!!!!!!
Jack in Wi.| 9.10.11 @ 1:16AM
Old Timer you are getting smarter in your old age.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:23AM
Jack, I've always bee smart, and just because I'm fair minded in
saying [as others are here] in saying Paul has good points, that
does not mean that I prefer him as the Republican monimee. You'd do
well to concentrate on supporting your Republican governor etc in
your state in their courageous fight against the unionist thugs
instead of trying to convert me to a Paulista!!!!!
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:04PM
"The Paul campaign’s attack ad pointed up Perry’s support in
1988 for Al Gore, who ran as a conserva-Dem in the primaries that
year."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Nite| 9.9.11 @ 9:49PM
So what? Perry was a conservative Democrat and Al Gore ran as
one. That support was 23 years ago and if Dr. Paul thinks he will
get any traction from this fact, he is mistaken. Perry has been a
conservative Republican since 1989. I too was a conservative
Democrat in 1988 and have been a conservative Republican since 1989
too.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 8:35AM
" Rick Perry supported Lance Armstrong's 3 billion dollar Texas
taxpayer funded medical research center. That’s like ObamaCare.
That’s not free market.
Rick Perry, secured a 300 million dollar business handout slush
fund for him and just the two leaders of the legislature to dole
out to whomever he felt like being friendly to. That’s corporate
welfare, a recipe for corruption, and as bad as the TARP bailouts
that caused the Tea Parties to explode all across America. In fact,
Perry gave 20 million dollars to Countrywide Financial, which
later went bankrupt.
He supported a new state business tax. He set up toll road tax
collection booths all over Texas highways. The Austin Tea Party and
the Austin Toll Party booed him on the steps of the state Capitol
for that.
Rick Perry, signed an executive order mandating young Texas
schoolgirls to get the HPV vaccine, while his former chief of staff
was a lobbyist for Merck. Perry's judgment was so bad the Texas
legislature revolted against him and overturned his decision,"
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Carpe Diem.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 5:53AM
Ronald Reagan: "If this globe is to live in peace and prosper,
if it is to embrace all the possibilities of the technological
revolution, then nations must renounce, once and for all, the right
to an expansionist foreign policy. Peace between nations must be an
enduring goal, not a tactical stage in a continuing conflict."
Ron Paul: "We cannot spread our greatness and our goodness
through the barrel of a gun. It fails because it destroys our
goodness in the process."
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 4:01PM
Perry voted for Reagan.
Paul is an insane nutjob who has made an Alliance with the
Progressives already. I so wish Paul wasn't fringe so we could so
easily tear him to pieces in the campaign instead of ignoring
him.
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 5:06PM
Paul will never gain traction as a credible and potential
presidential candidate, but his ideas do bear consideration
perhaps!!!!!
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 5:17PM
Rothbardianism is Morally in the toilet.
Jack in Wi.| 9.10.11 @ 1:34AM
You are getting smarter and you see that Ron Paul's ideas are
the main focus of the campaign. I am sure Ron Paul would rather be
home with his large family in retirement writing and teaching then
running in a brutal campaign. The problem is that at the present
time there is no other person in public life who has the knowledge
and principles to pull us through the current disaster.
Ron Paul is certainly the most electable Republican. He is tied
with Obama in most polls as is Romney and Perry. Perry and Romny do
much worse among Independents, Democrats, and the young then Ron
Paul. No Republican can be elected without these people. The old
line Republican crowd is down to about 20% of the poulation. He is
by far the best and most thoughful debater of anyone running for
President. He would destroy Obama in any debate. Ron Paul is at the
present time the only one running who can give us hope for the
future.
Even if by some miracle Perry or Romney would be elected, they
would be like the Bush's or Clinton. In effect just 2 more members
of the old boys club which has put the country into bankruptcy.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 5:57AM
Associated Press-GfK poll: Ron Paul the most favorable GOP
candidate
A new national poll of the general population has revealed that
top tier candidate Ron Paul is the most favorable choice in the
Republican Presidential nomination race.
Ron Paul 37% favorable vs 36% unfavorable = +1
Mitt Romney 39% favorable vs 41% unfavorable = -2
Rick Perry 33% favorable vs 36% unfavorable = -3
Michele Bachmann 35% favorable vs 43% unfavorable = -8
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 4:12PM
We Tea Party Patriots & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite
Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul Don't Need Your Tossed Bones,
RINO-CINO Fart.
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:05PM
"The Paul campaign’s attack ad pointed up Perry’s support in
1988 for Al Gore, who ran as a conserva-Dem in the primaries that
year."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 5:54AM
Ronald Reagan: "The Federal Reserve is answerable to no
one."
Ron Paul: "The government will audit a waitress to make sure she
pays taxes on her tips, but they won't audit the Federal
Reserve."
Carol Quigley| 9.10.11 @ 12:38PM
How do you know who the king of Perry-diots voted for? Were the
male staffer holding his hand in the voting booth, and reading the
choices to him?
If he was such a "conservative" Democrat (no evidence offered),
why was he cheerleading for someone lightyears to the left of even
Reagan's leftist VP, 8 years later?
If he was such "conservative" (feel free to offer evidence, at
any time) Democrat, why was he still cheerleading for socialized
medicine (a la Hilary-care) long after he flip-flopped over to the
Republican party?
The world is waiting for an answer.
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.9.11 @ 4:03PM
(Sigh), beCAUSE, Aaron, Mr. Reagan had a different set of
priorities.
As he stepped into the presidency, the Soviet Union was on the
march...world wide.
(As it turned out...their high water mark)
The REAL Reagan revolution was defense of freedom... We
win...They lose.
Yes, part of that was a strong economy to build a gazillion tools
to defeat the Soviets...Accomplished!
Even then, Paul was totally myopic regarding the world around
us, the dumb cluck.
aware| 9.9.11 @ 4:17PM
I see neo cons now adhere to the Paul Krugman idea that
war(destruction) is the best "stimulus" there is. So perpetual war
means perpetual "stimulus", huh? Bet you think WW2 ended the Great
Depression too.
We can just have half the people build instruments of
destruction and the other half using them and all will be
perfect.
9th ID| 9.9.11 @ 5:36PM
The Paulistas make Neville Chamberlain look like a war
monger...
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:12PM
Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor Michael Scheuer, Former CIA
Chief of The bin Laden Unit,
The President Should:
2.) Publicly state that there will be no U.S. surprise attack on
Iran, and no U.S. attack at all on Iran unless the president asks
for a formal declaration of war and the Congress votes its approval
in a constitutional manner.
4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be
brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through
AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they
own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to
ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send
their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the
U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S.
participation would further bankrupt the country, require the
reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of
the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable
future."
Carol Quigley| 9.10.11 @ 1:09PM
Chamberlain was the defender of the status quo . Dr Paul is more
like Churchill, the leader we need, now, in this time of crisis,
but who is being written off as an out of touch alarmist.
Remember: Hitler was Time magazine's 1938 Man of the Year.
Senator Prescott Bush (Poppy's daddy, and shrub's grandaddy) was
eventually convicted of trading with the enemy, for his role in
continuing to see no evil in Nazi Germany, even after the US had
already declared war.
The difference, today, is that the enemy is no longer at the
gate; the enemy is already on the throne (no, not just Obama,
simpletons). It is time to dethrone the enemy within. Dr Paul is
the man of the hour.
If not Paul, who else? No one else is even talking about the
problem. Everyone else is part of the problem. If you won't even
face the problem, you'll never solve it.
Obama isn't the problem; he's just a symptom. The disease will
persist, whether the White House is occupied by a Republican or a
Democrat, until either the host is dead, or until the disease is
identified and eradicated.
Time is critical. The US is terminal. Yeah, I know, I know, "it
can't happen here!" -- right? Idiots.
Edward| 9.9.11 @ 4:07PM
Disingenuous? Sure... it's a little disingenuous.
Politics ain't beanbag, and Presidential politics all the less
so.
But it comes down to Ron Paul looking at the Platonic Ideal of
Reagan, and seeing the real Reagan fall short. Rick Perry saw the
real Reagan, and imagined the Platonic Ideal of Al Gore.
Bernard Lindstrom| 9.9.11 @ 4:37PM
Note: Aaron Goldstein is angry that Ron Paul objected to a
massive expansion of the size and scope of the federal government,
and to the sort of fiscally irresponsible spending that added TWO
TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt - because it was a Party Hero
doing the expanding and spending.
This is a PERFECT distillation of the mindset of the
conservative-when-convenient Republican Party die-hard loyalist:
fiscal irresponsibility and Big Government are "bad" when Democrats
are responsible, but are not to be mentioned when Republicans
are.
This is because they do not care about policy, and only about
The Party. If you speak ill of The Party, you are no longer a
comrade. Adam Goldstein doesn't give a damn if the debt is run up
sky-high and Big Government expanded beyond recognition - so long
as it's George W. Bush pulling an LBJ, and not LBJ himself.
What a joke.
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 5:19PM
Bush pulling a LBJ? Anyone living through the latter and
comparing same to Bush needs either educational or psychiatric
assistance. Bush did not legislate the Great Society, the War on
Poverty, etc which was an insult to the American taxpayers of this
country. Although Bush's ME war was flawed, it could never be the
slap-in-the-face to the US military that the Viet Nam War was
[thanks to LBJ and McNamara's micromanaging of same STUPIDLY]; and
Bush's war was fairly well run because he allowed the
military/Pentagon to manage same and not the sending of 18 year old
to fight the one-arm-behind-the-back war with a body-bag eventaul
outcome that LBJ orchestrated for POLITICAL PURPOSES ONLY. Don't
ever make the insane comparison of LBJ and GWB just because they
happen to be from the same state of Texas [since that is the
one/only similarity possible]!!!!!!!!
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.9.11 @ 4:49PM
Sorry, Bernard, that you were named that. It has obviously
stunted your whole life. Heh.
9th ID| 9.9.11 @ 5:42PM
Primer on Ron Paul & Liberal-tarianism
Liber-als and Liber-tarians come from the same root of Libertinism
-- basically a rejection of authority, law, and morality. That is
why they both, to varying degrees, support legalizing drugs,
prostitution, gay marriage, abortion, and reducing our military to
homeland-security status. Only real difference between the two is
Liber-tarians tend to be fiscally conservative. This makes them 66%
Liber-al – not enough to meet Reagan’s 80% rule. So, the Paulistas
are NOT Reagan conservatives (i.e.. social/national/fiscal). This
is why Ron Paul attacked Reagan, resigned from the GOP, and ran as
a Libertarian Party candidate in 1988 along with Liber-al cop
killer Russell Means.
While Liber-alism leads to totalitarianism, Paulist
Liber-tarianism leads to anarchy. This is why our Founders
specifically gave us a Republic and NOT a democracy. When
Paulistas, who follow a cult of personality just like their cousins
the Obamabots, talk of returning to the “founding”, they don't mean
the Constitution. Instead, they mean the uber-states-rights chaos
of the Articles of the Confederation that led to our Constitution.
While we certainly don’t want to nominate a RINO like Romney, we
sure don’t want anything to do with the Liberal Ron Paul types and
his self-described “revolutionaries”...
Margie| 9.10.11 @ 1:51PM
Perfectly defined.
Bravo!
May I copy this & quote you in the future?
Bernard Lindstrom| 9.10.11 @ 4:04PM
Actually those are imperfect definitions, being that they are
objectively incorrect. Neither liberalism nor libertarianism "come
from" libertinism. The three words merely share the same root -
liber, free - with the word Liberty.
I suppose that alone makes them sound evil to certain sorts of
people.
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:15PM
Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of
conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a
misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we
were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives
today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government
interference or less centralized authority or more individual
freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what
libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the
present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a
party say, because I think that like in any political movement
there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at
the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe
there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate
need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom
or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the
block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that
we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves.
But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism
and conservatism are traveling the same path."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Rise Up In Rebellion.
9th ID| 9.10.11 @ 10:22AM
No one I know of in the Tea Party supports your Lord of the
Flies vision of revolution. Even Reagan knew the Paulist version of
Liber-tarianism was a clear and present danger to constitutional
liberty. That's why Paul joined other libertine radicals in the
Libertarian Party. I'm glad Paul in now out of the race and will
have to give up his seat in the House...
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 1:08PM
Spoken like The Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge Traitor
Bastard You Are, 9th. ID.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:29AM
Fool, I would not so STUPIDLY use the word 'traitor', since your
boy is the poster child for being traitorous [to his once upon a
time Republican Party]. Try looking up the definition of the word
'traitor' before you STUPIDLY apply same next time!!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 4:20PM
Hey, RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart.
The Republican Party & John McCain Were The Traitors To
Conservatism.
Tell Us About mcCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman,
Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,
TARP......
You're Up RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Margie| 9.10.11 @ 1:54PM
More perfection.
And of course the madman can't dispute anything you've said.
Clint| 9.10.11 @ 6:08PM
Dispute This, The Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie.
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger
national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the
needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need
to keep him fighting for our country."
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:31AM
Dispute this: Paul was/is a 'traitor' to the Republican Party,
since he resigned from same to run as a Libertarian Party
candidate!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 6:46PM
Don't Give Us Your RINO-CINO Propaganda Crap, Fart.
You RINO-CINO Traitor Bastards Sold Out Conservatism, Fart.
Again, Tell Us About McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,
McCain-Lieberman, Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 &
2003, TARP......
You're Up RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
USA & Israel, friends forever.| 9.10.11 @ 2:17AM
There has been a substantial improvement in the quality of posts
on all forums here lately. Whereas before this website was way down
on my line due to antiSemitic bigotry, lately while I find the
content disturbing, like a bad car wreck I cannot turn away. If
this is a sign of things to come I am all for it.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 6:07AM
Yoo ! USA & Israel, friends forever.
You're The Same Maniac,Who Posted This On Another Thread.
"USA & Israel, friends forever.| 9.10.11 @ 1:07AM
Paul is doomed because he is insufficiently supportive of
Israel. Period. Also, he needed a voice & body language coach
before being presented in public. Be assured that if by some freak
accident this man somehow acquired the Republican nomination &
won the election he would be killed before he ever turned the key
on the front door of the White House."
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:33AM
Then obviously, he will die of old age or of natural
causes!!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 6:48PM
More Fart, RINO-CINO Propaganda Crap.
Ron Paul: I’ve offered to ride a bicycle for 20 miles in Houston
when the temperature is 100° and the humidity is 100% and I will go
20 miles with them and then we’ll decide who’s the youngest.
very good information you write it very clean. I’m very lucky to
get this information from you.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:42AM
It cracks me up into laughter that some here protest the fact of
some current Republican politicians were once upon a time
Democrats, since that fact accurately describes 2/3 of the
Republican Party politicians. Reagan was an ardent liberal Democrat
initially as a struggling actor in Holloywood [since to be
otherwise is to would be to insure an actor's inability to find
work within the liberal Democratic community known as LA-LA lAND].
The southern region of this country was once dominated exclusively
by the Democratic Party, and due to the creeping radical liberalism
which permiates that party today, all sane conservative Democrats
flushed their DNC membership cards down the toilet and converted to
the Republican Party. Today, the only Democrats are governmental
welfare recipients, labor unionist terrorists, artsy-fartsy
imbiciles of Hollywood and academia, dumb-ars 18-24 years olds
brainwashed by Hollwwood and their public school teachers, and of
course the moronic Paulistas disguised as pseudo-Republicans [RINOS
if you will]!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 7:21PM
The RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart Attempts Tap Dance
His Way Out Of His Own RINO-CINO Agenda.
" USS Constitution.| 9.9.11 @ 12:07PM
Trash and you know it.
For starters, it's fine and dandy that Perry switched Parties.
If people couldn't change their mind, we'd still be living under
kings.
The problem is Perry may have switched tags, but he didn't
switch principles. And he even directly said that. He only switched
to a republican because he thought it was the only way he could get
elected.
And his record shows that.
He's just another puppet politician who will mold into whatever
is needed to get elected, period. And once elected will be another
politician who will do whatever they want. More of the same.
Of course, Ron Paul supported Reagan when nobody else did. He is
a man of principles, and when the Reagan administration failed to
keep those principles, he spoke up. And that is why he is worth
voting for.
All this article really shows is that the author doesn't care
about principles. Well if you have no principles, you have no
morals either."
yisong| 10.27.11 @ 2:17AM
Bearing contact fatigue spalling happened in the work surface,
often accompanied by fatigue crack, starting with the contact
surface the emulating maximum alternating shear stress generated
by, and then amplified to the surface spalling alter shapes being,
such as point-like pitting or pitting as spalling organize, peel
into small pieces is cried shallow spalling. http://www.1stbearing.com
Sean| 9.9.11 @ 3:37PM
Paul wrote basically that the results didn't meet the philosophy of Reagan in 1976 and 1980. Deficits, debt and no departments cuts. The philosophy of the Reagan Revolution was about smaller government. Paul wanted to put that philosophy, which for a large part failed to be implemented into practice.
Perry on the other hand was for bigger government. He was diametrically opposed to the Reagan Revolution of small limited government.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 6:30AM
"EASTON, Md, September 8, 2011 — We have all heard of strong-arm tactics, and during the commercial break at Wednesday night’s GOP Presidential debate at the Reagan Library, Texas Governor Rick Perry was observed doing just that to Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas).
A camera caught the action, but no mikes were on, so this is a perfect example of where actions speak louder than words.
First Perry confronts Paul across the podium of Ambassador Jon Huntsman. Then they stand nose to nose as Perry harangues Paul. Next he shakes his finger in Paul’s face as he grabs his arm. Then he makes one last gesture, perhaps one of giving up in the face of Ron Paul’s stoic, tight-lipped response. "
http://communities.washingtont.....intimidat/
Mrs. Vito| 9.10.11 @ 7:48PM
Actually, there was one a 'hot-mic'. Gov. Perry, at the behest of Sen. Rand Paul, was simply suggesting to Cong. Ron Paul to take his Aricept (meds.) more regularly. Cong. Paul's response was "I am not delusional, General Custer. The Indians are not a threat!"
PattyMor| 9.9.11 @ 3:51PM
Paul has some very good points on the financial system. I read his book and basically agreed with him. But Paul's views on foreign policy are very extreme. He's right that the U.S. is involved in too many foreign adventures, but we can't just sit back and let Iran have a bomb. Let's start building some superduper bunker busters and some bright new shiny bombers to deliver them.
9th ID| 9.9.11 @ 5:31PM
Ron Paul is further Left on social and national security issues than even most moderate Democrats or even the radical himself, Obama.
C Bowen| 9.9.11 @ 5:49PM
LOL
Dick Cheney, Obama and Hillary all favor a policy of replacing various Middle Eastern heads of state, with radical Islamic "democrats."
If opposing such insanity is Left, you don't really get the Left Right dichotomy.
SpiralArchitect| 9.9.11 @ 7:59PM
I looked at your link, Bowen.
Hopefully it was an off day there. :/
Bob K.| 9.9.11 @ 3:52PM
You are going to milk his for all it is worth, aren't you, Mr. Goldstein?
JP| 9.9.11 @ 3:56PM
I'm not much of a fan of niether politician. However, one must question Perry in that he spent the entire era of Reagan as a Democrat. His fellow Texas pols were on the same side of Tip O'Neil and Robert Byrd.
It's hard to say you're a devotee of the Gipper when you're ate from the same side of the table as Lloyd Benson and Ann Richards.
Mrs. Vito| 9.10.11 @ 7:54PM
JP, open your ears. Gov. Perry has explained at numerous times that yes, he used to be a Democrat, and that at the time, Al Gore was much more moderate than the internet-inventing, global warming guru that he has become. This info is easily found if you're truly interested in the facts...
JP| 9.9.11 @ 3:58PM
Paul in 2008, after mcCain picked Palin, endorsed Marxist Anti-Semite Cynthia McKinney AND Ralph Naders bids for Presidency over the GOP ticket. He mindlessly endorsed all 3rd party candidates.
Sean| 9.9.11 @ 4:21PM
That is just a flat out lie.
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 5:16PM
Here, Paul endorses Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Barr and Baldwin while refusing to endorse McCain/Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqOpeRnvvNo
Sean| 9.9.11 @ 7:18PM
Like I said you lied.
That video shows Ron Paul advocating letting third party candidates into the debates if they are on enough ballots to allow them to win the Presidency. That is not an endorsement. Also Ron Paul should never have to endorse a liberal like McCain for President.
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:00PM
Now,The Rest Of The Story.
" Paul said he's supporting the third-party candidates because the two major parties and media had "colluded" to avoid discussing issues and falsely presenting the difference between McCain and Obama as real.
"I've come to the conclusion, after having spent many years in politics, is that our presidential elections turn out to be more of a charade than anything else, and I think that is true today. It is a charade," he said.
Paul offered an open endorsement to the four candidates because each signed onto a policy statement that calls for "balancing budgets, bring troops home, personal liberties and investigating the Federal Reserve," an aide to the congressman said.
Paul said a strong showing by the third-party candidates would express the public's frustration with the current system."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
We Will Purge The RINO-CINO's Of The GOP.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:19AM
You're full of excrement, and I challange you to prove that McCain ever endorced a gutter-criminal like McKinney!!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 4:07PM
Duuuuuuuuhhhhh !
Try Reading What's Written RINO-CINO Fart.
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 3:58PM
In fairness to the Paulistas, the following makes a good point of comparison: '..... Ron Paul Is Reagan’s True Heir Friday, September 9, 2011 09:51 AMBy: Doug Wead....Here are the words of The Gipper, Ronald Reagan, and presidential candidate Ron Paul, side by side. In 1976, Ron Paul was one of only four congressmen to support Reagan against the establishment. The two have much in common.
Ronald Reagan: "The Federal Reserve is answerable to no one."Ron Paul: "The government will audit a waitress to make sure she pays taxes on her tips, but they won't audit the Federal Reserve."Ron Paul: "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and our wealth are in jeopardy."Ronald Reagan: "If this globe is to live in peace and prosper, if it is to embrace all the possibilities of the technological revolution, then nations must renounce, once and for all, the right to an expansionist foreign policy. Peace between nations must be an enduring goal, not a tactical stage in a continuing conflict." Ron Paul: "We cannot spread our greatness and our goodness through the barrel of a gun. It fails because it destroys our goodness in the process." Ronald Reagan: "We know too what happened in the Brezhnev era: greater and greater expansionism; Afghanistan, economic decay and overwhelming corruption; a greater and greater burden on the peoples of the Soviet Union, and on all the peoples of the world." Ron Paul: "This is usually how empires end, by spending too much money maintaining their empires. We are now in 130 countries. We have 700 bases around the world. And it’s going to come to an end. I want it to come to an end, gracefully and peacefully. Let's just follow the Constitution and follow a more sensible foreign policy." Ron Paul: "I think the whole sentiment toward war is shifting. We can’t even fight without borrowing money from the Chinese. It really doesn’t matter whether I’m right or wrong. The wars are going to end because we are going to have such a political and financial havoc here at home that — with the devaluation of our dollar — that they will have to stop." Ronald Reagan: "What if we were to ask their [Russian] mothers, sisters, and sons, do you want war? Ask us, too, and you'll find the same answer, the same longing in every heart. People do not make wars; governments do. And no mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology. A people free to choose will always choose peace. “Americans seek always to make friends of old antagonists. After a colonial revolution with Britain, we have cemented for all ages the ties of kinship between our nations. After a terrible Civil War between North and South, we healed our wounds and found true unity as a nation. We fought two world wars in my lifetime against Germany and one with Japan, but now the Federal Republic of Germany and Japan are two of our closest allies and friends.” Ron Paul: "Throughout the 20th century, the U.S. has steadily drifted from the traditional policy of nonintervention, neutrality, and independence to one of interventionism in the internal affairs of other nations, covert foreign activity, and broad international commitments.“This dramatic shift in policy, one of the major U.S. blunders of this century, is responsible for all of our overseas military conflicts of the past eight decades, which have resulted in more than 650,000 Americans killed and 1,130,000 Americans wounded. "The last two major conflicts, Korea and Vietnam, were fought without a formal declaration of war. In modern language, they were ‘police actions.’ Since war was not declared, there was no commitment to win. Clearly the efforts proved futile, serving only to tear at the seams of American society.” Ronald Reagan: “The Soviet-American relationship, once marked by sterility and confrontation, is now characterized by dialog — realistic, candid dialog — serious diplomatic progress, and the sights and sounds of summitry." Ron Paul: “There’s nothing wrong with spreading our values around the world, but it is wrong to spread them by force. We should spread them by setting an example.” Ron Paul: “If we think it is our responsibility is to spread democracy, then let’s make sure we have it here.” Ron Paul: “Those who advocate the traditional policy of nonintervention are ridiculed as isolationists by the authoritarians who want the U.S. to decide all disputes. Yet it’s their interventionist policies, especially in the last six years, which have isolated us, reduced our allies, and increased our enemies.” .......'
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 4:03PM
Doug Weed is a dishonest Idiot.
Given Paul and the Rothbardians hate Ronald Reagan, especially Reagan's Foreign Policy and wanted Reagan Tried for War Crimes its even more idiotic.
How about we take Paul quotes and pair them next to Anti-Semites and George McGovern if we play this game?
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 5:04PM
Maybe so, but many writers fall into that catagory as well. Paul [and Reagan] make good points in that this country is overextended militarily, which is costly in terms of casualties and costs. What does same achieve? Has any country [other than England and Israel] come to our aid and assistence in our ME military campaigns? We saved Kuwait from extinction by the Iraqi army, yet did they reciprocate and offer any assistence after we drove Sadaam back to Iraq? Did Kuwait give us a say 10% discount on our imported oil from them? Did Europeon countries support us diplomatically or militarily after we bailed them out in WWII? After loaning Russia $billions when they were dying economically, did they thank us by refraining from building missle armaments in Iran etc? Did Pakistan thank us after assisting them during Musharaf's term with terrorism by not selling missle technology to Iran, NK etc [or by not harboring the terrorist UBL]? No, Paul and Reagan have credible points and food for thought. No one of sound mind would go overboard toward Paulisms in proclaiming the need to love our foreign enemies to death, but our isolation from foreign intervention could be countered with targeted missled attachs upon any foreign country that say attacked us 9/11 style etc as a warning response to same!!!!!!!
Jack in Wi.| 9.10.11 @ 1:16AM
Old Timer you are getting smarter in your old age.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:23AM
Jack, I've always bee smart, and just because I'm fair minded in saying [as others are here] in saying Paul has good points, that does not mean that I prefer him as the Republican monimee. You'd do well to concentrate on supporting your Republican governor etc in your state in their courageous fight against the unionist thugs instead of trying to convert me to a Paulista!!!!!
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:04PM
"The Paul campaign’s attack ad pointed up Perry’s support in 1988 for Al Gore, who ran as a conserva-Dem in the primaries that year."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Nite| 9.9.11 @ 9:49PM
So what? Perry was a conservative Democrat and Al Gore ran as one. That support was 23 years ago and if Dr. Paul thinks he will get any traction from this fact, he is mistaken. Perry has been a conservative Republican since 1989. I too was a conservative Democrat in 1988 and have been a conservative Republican since 1989 too.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 8:35AM
" Rick Perry supported Lance Armstrong's 3 billion dollar Texas taxpayer funded medical research center. That’s like ObamaCare. That’s not free market.
Rick Perry, secured a 300 million dollar business handout slush fund for him and just the two leaders of the legislature to dole out to whomever he felt like being friendly to. That’s corporate welfare, a recipe for corruption, and as bad as the TARP bailouts that caused the Tea Parties to explode all across America. In fact, Perry gave 20 million dollars to Countrywide Financial, which later went bankrupt.
He supported a new state business tax. He set up toll road tax collection booths all over Texas highways. The Austin Tea Party and the Austin Toll Party booed him on the steps of the state Capitol for that.
Rick Perry, signed an executive order mandating young Texas schoolgirls to get the HPV vaccine, while his former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck. Perry's judgment was so bad the Texas legislature revolted against him and overturned his decision,"
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Carpe Diem.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 5:53AM
Ronald Reagan: "If this globe is to live in peace and prosper, if it is to embrace all the possibilities of the technological revolution, then nations must renounce, once and for all, the right to an expansionist foreign policy. Peace between nations must be an enduring goal, not a tactical stage in a continuing conflict."
Ron Paul: "We cannot spread our greatness and our goodness through the barrel of a gun. It fails because it destroys our goodness in the process."
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 4:01PM
Perry voted for Reagan.
Paul is an insane nutjob who has made an Alliance with the Progressives already. I so wish Paul wasn't fringe so we could so easily tear him to pieces in the campaign instead of ignoring him.
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 5:06PM
Paul will never gain traction as a credible and potential presidential candidate, but his ideas do bear consideration perhaps!!!!!
JP1| 9.9.11 @ 5:17PM
Rothbardianism is Morally in the toilet.
Jack in Wi.| 9.10.11 @ 1:34AM
You are getting smarter and you see that Ron Paul's ideas are the main focus of the campaign. I am sure Ron Paul would rather be home with his large family in retirement writing and teaching then running in a brutal campaign. The problem is that at the present time there is no other person in public life who has the knowledge and principles to pull us through the current disaster.
Ron Paul is certainly the most electable Republican. He is tied with Obama in most polls as is Romney and Perry. Perry and Romny do much worse among Independents, Democrats, and the young then Ron Paul. No Republican can be elected without these people. The old line Republican crowd is down to about 20% of the poulation. He is by far the best and most thoughful debater of anyone running for President. He would destroy Obama in any debate. Ron Paul is at the present time the only one running who can give us hope for the future.
Even if by some miracle Perry or Romney would be elected, they would be like the Bush's or Clinton. In effect just 2 more members of the old boys club which has put the country into bankruptcy.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 5:57AM
Associated Press-GfK poll: Ron Paul the most favorable GOP candidate
A new national poll of the general population has revealed that top tier candidate Ron Paul is the most favorable choice in the Republican Presidential nomination race.
Ron Paul 37% favorable vs 36% unfavorable = +1
Mitt Romney 39% favorable vs 41% unfavorable = -2
Rick Perry 33% favorable vs 36% unfavorable = -3
Michele Bachmann 35% favorable vs 43% unfavorable = -8
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 4:12PM
We Tea Party Patriots & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul Don't Need Your Tossed Bones, RINO-CINO Fart.
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:05PM
"The Paul campaign’s attack ad pointed up Perry’s support in 1988 for Al Gore, who ran as a conserva-Dem in the primaries that year."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 5:54AM
Ronald Reagan: "The Federal Reserve is answerable to no one."
Ron Paul: "The government will audit a waitress to make sure she pays taxes on her tips, but they won't audit the Federal Reserve."
Carol Quigley| 9.10.11 @ 12:38PM
How do you know who the king of Perry-diots voted for? Were the male staffer holding his hand in the voting booth, and reading the choices to him?
If he was such a "conservative" Democrat (no evidence offered), why was he cheerleading for someone lightyears to the left of even Reagan's leftist VP, 8 years later?
If he was such "conservative" (feel free to offer evidence, at any time) Democrat, why was he still cheerleading for socialized medicine (a la Hilary-care) long after he flip-flopped over to the Republican party?
The world is waiting for an answer.
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.9.11 @ 4:03PM
(Sigh), beCAUSE, Aaron, Mr. Reagan had a different set of priorities.
As he stepped into the presidency, the Soviet Union was on the march...world wide.
(As it turned out...their high water mark)
The REAL Reagan revolution was defense of freedom... We win...They lose.
Yes, part of that was a strong economy to build a gazillion tools to defeat the Soviets...Accomplished!
Even then, Paul was totally myopic regarding the world around us, the dumb cluck.
aware| 9.9.11 @ 4:17PM
I see neo cons now adhere to the Paul Krugman idea that war(destruction) is the best "stimulus" there is. So perpetual war means perpetual "stimulus", huh? Bet you think WW2 ended the Great Depression too.
We can just have half the people build instruments of destruction and the other half using them and all will be perfect.
9th ID| 9.9.11 @ 5:36PM
The Paulistas make Neville Chamberlain look like a war monger...
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:12PM
Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor Michael Scheuer, Former CIA Chief of The bin Laden Unit,
The President Should:
2.) Publicly state that there will be no U.S. surprise attack on Iran, and no U.S. attack at all on Iran unless the president asks for a formal declaration of war and the Congress votes its approval in a constitutional manner.
4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."
Carol Quigley| 9.10.11 @ 1:09PM
Chamberlain was the defender of the status quo . Dr Paul is more like Churchill, the leader we need, now, in this time of crisis, but who is being written off as an out of touch alarmist.
Remember: Hitler was Time magazine's 1938 Man of the Year. Senator Prescott Bush (Poppy's daddy, and shrub's grandaddy) was eventually convicted of trading with the enemy, for his role in continuing to see no evil in Nazi Germany, even after the US had already declared war.
The difference, today, is that the enemy is no longer at the gate; the enemy is already on the throne (no, not just Obama, simpletons). It is time to dethrone the enemy within. Dr Paul is the man of the hour.
If not Paul, who else? No one else is even talking about the problem. Everyone else is part of the problem. If you won't even face the problem, you'll never solve it.
Obama isn't the problem; he's just a symptom. The disease will persist, whether the White House is occupied by a Republican or a Democrat, until either the host is dead, or until the disease is identified and eradicated.
Time is critical. The US is terminal. Yeah, I know, I know, "it can't happen here!" -- right? Idiots.
Edward| 9.9.11 @ 4:07PM
Disingenuous? Sure... it's a little disingenuous.
Politics ain't beanbag, and Presidential politics all the less so.
But it comes down to Ron Paul looking at the Platonic Ideal of Reagan, and seeing the real Reagan fall short. Rick Perry saw the real Reagan, and imagined the Platonic Ideal of Al Gore.
Bernard Lindstrom| 9.9.11 @ 4:37PM
Note: Aaron Goldstein is angry that Ron Paul objected to a massive expansion of the size and scope of the federal government, and to the sort of fiscally irresponsible spending that added TWO TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt - because it was a Party Hero doing the expanding and spending.
This is a PERFECT distillation of the mindset of the conservative-when-convenient Republican Party die-hard loyalist: fiscal irresponsibility and Big Government are "bad" when Democrats are responsible, but are not to be mentioned when Republicans are.
This is because they do not care about policy, and only about The Party. If you speak ill of The Party, you are no longer a comrade. Adam Goldstein doesn't give a damn if the debt is run up sky-high and Big Government expanded beyond recognition - so long as it's George W. Bush pulling an LBJ, and not LBJ himself.
What a joke.
Oldefarte| 9.9.11 @ 5:19PM
Bush pulling a LBJ? Anyone living through the latter and comparing same to Bush needs either educational or psychiatric assistance. Bush did not legislate the Great Society, the War on Poverty, etc which was an insult to the American taxpayers of this country. Although Bush's ME war was flawed, it could never be the slap-in-the-face to the US military that the Viet Nam War was [thanks to LBJ and McNamara's micromanaging of same STUPIDLY]; and Bush's war was fairly well run because he allowed the military/Pentagon to manage same and not the sending of 18 year old to fight the one-arm-behind-the-back war with a body-bag eventaul outcome that LBJ orchestrated for POLITICAL PURPOSES ONLY. Don't ever make the insane comparison of LBJ and GWB just because they happen to be from the same state of Texas [since that is the one/only similarity possible]!!!!!!!!
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.9.11 @ 4:49PM
Sorry, Bernard, that you were named that. It has obviously stunted your whole life. Heh.
9th ID| 9.9.11 @ 5:42PM
Primer on Ron Paul & Liberal-tarianism
Liber-als and Liber-tarians come from the same root of Libertinism -- basically a rejection of authority, law, and morality. That is why they both, to varying degrees, support legalizing drugs, prostitution, gay marriage, abortion, and reducing our military to homeland-security status. Only real difference between the two is Liber-tarians tend to be fiscally conservative. This makes them 66% Liber-al – not enough to meet Reagan’s 80% rule. So, the Paulistas are NOT Reagan conservatives (i.e.. social/national/fiscal). This is why Ron Paul attacked Reagan, resigned from the GOP, and ran as a Libertarian Party candidate in 1988 along with Liber-al cop killer Russell Means.
While Liber-alism leads to totalitarianism, Paulist Liber-tarianism leads to anarchy. This is why our Founders specifically gave us a Republic and NOT a democracy. When Paulistas, who follow a cult of personality just like their cousins the Obamabots, talk of returning to the “founding”, they don't mean the Constitution. Instead, they mean the uber-states-rights chaos of the Articles of the Confederation that led to our Constitution. While we certainly don’t want to nominate a RINO like Romney, we sure don’t want anything to do with the Liberal Ron Paul types and his self-described “revolutionaries”...
Margie| 9.10.11 @ 1:51PM
Perfectly defined.
Bravo!
May I copy this & quote you in the future?
Bernard Lindstrom| 9.10.11 @ 4:04PM
Actually those are imperfect definitions, being that they are objectively incorrect. Neither liberalism nor libertarianism "come from" libertinism. The three words merely share the same root - liber, free - with the word Liberty.
I suppose that alone makes them sound evil to certain sorts of people.
Clint | 9.9.11 @ 9:15PM
Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Rise Up In Rebellion.
9th ID| 9.10.11 @ 10:22AM
No one I know of in the Tea Party supports your Lord of the Flies vision of revolution. Even Reagan knew the Paulist version of Liber-tarianism was a clear and present danger to constitutional liberty. That's why Paul joined other libertine radicals in the Libertarian Party. I'm glad Paul in now out of the race and will have to give up his seat in the House...
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 1:08PM
Spoken like The Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge Traitor Bastard You Are, 9th. ID.
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:29AM
Fool, I would not so STUPIDLY use the word 'traitor', since your boy is the poster child for being traitorous [to his once upon a time Republican Party]. Try looking up the definition of the word 'traitor' before you STUPIDLY apply same next time!!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 4:20PM
Hey, RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart.
The Republican Party & John McCain Were The Traitors To Conservatism.
Tell Us About mcCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman, Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003, TARP......
You're Up RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Margie| 9.10.11 @ 1:54PM
More perfection.
And of course the madman can't dispute anything you've said.
Clint| 9.10.11 @ 6:08PM
Dispute This, The Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie.
Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:31AM
Dispute this: Paul was/is a 'traitor' to the Republican Party, since he resigned from same to run as a Libertarian Party candidate!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 6:46PM
Don't Give Us Your RINO-CINO Propaganda Crap, Fart.
You RINO-CINO Traitor Bastards Sold Out Conservatism, Fart.
Again, Tell Us About McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman, Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003, TARP......
You're Up RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
USA & Israel, friends forever.| 9.10.11 @ 2:17AM
There has been a substantial improvement in the quality of posts on all forums here lately. Whereas before this website was way down on my line due to antiSemitic bigotry, lately while I find the content disturbing, like a bad car wreck I cannot turn away. If this is a sign of things to come I am all for it.
Clint | 9.10.11 @ 6:07AM
Yoo ! USA & Israel, friends forever.
You're The Same Maniac,Who Posted This On Another Thread.
"USA & Israel, friends forever.| 9.10.11 @ 1:07AM
Paul is doomed because he is insufficiently supportive of Israel. Period. Also, he needed a voice & body language coach before being presented in public. Be assured that if by some freak accident this man somehow acquired the Republican nomination & won the election he would be killed before he ever turned the key on the front door of the White House."
Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:33AM
Then obviously, he will die of old age or of natural causes!!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 6:48PM
More Fart, RINO-CINO Propaganda Crap.
Ron Paul: I’ve offered to ride a bicycle for 20 miles in Houston when the temperature is 100° and the humidity is 100% and I will go 20 miles with them and then we’ll decide who’s the youngest.
ABCD| 9.10.11 @ 4:04AM
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Oldefarte| 9.11.11 @ 11:42AM
It cracks me up into laughter that some here protest the fact of some current Republican politicians were once upon a time Democrats, since that fact accurately describes 2/3 of the Republican Party politicians. Reagan was an ardent liberal Democrat initially as a struggling actor in Holloywood [since to be otherwise is to would be to insure an actor's inability to find work within the liberal Democratic community known as LA-LA lAND]. The southern region of this country was once dominated exclusively by the Democratic Party, and due to the creeping radical liberalism which permiates that party today, all sane conservative Democrats flushed their DNC membership cards down the toilet and converted to the Republican Party. Today, the only Democrats are governmental welfare recipients, labor unionist terrorists, artsy-fartsy imbiciles of Hollywood and academia, dumb-ars 18-24 years olds brainwashed by Hollwwood and their public school teachers, and of course the moronic Paulistas disguised as pseudo-Republicans [RINOS if you will]!!!!!!
Clint | 9.11.11 @ 7:21PM
The RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie Stooge, Fart Attempts Tap Dance His Way Out Of His Own RINO-CINO Agenda.
" USS Constitution.| 9.9.11 @ 12:07PM
Trash and you know it.
For starters, it's fine and dandy that Perry switched Parties. If people couldn't change their mind, we'd still be living under kings.
The problem is Perry may have switched tags, but he didn't switch principles. And he even directly said that. He only switched to a republican because he thought it was the only way he could get elected.
And his record shows that.
He's just another puppet politician who will mold into whatever is needed to get elected, period. And once elected will be another politician who will do whatever they want. More of the same.
Of course, Ron Paul supported Reagan when nobody else did. He is a man of principles, and when the Reagan administration failed to keep those principles, he spoke up. And that is why he is worth voting for.
All this article really shows is that the author doesn't care about principles. Well if you have no principles, you have no morals either."
yisong| 10.27.11 @ 2:17AM
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