One of the more noxious parts of higher education policy is the
almost moralistic way in which people tell stories about the people
who do go to college versus those who do not. Catherine Rampbell
stumbles
into this line of thinking by noting the higher earnings by those
who went to college over those who did not.
What’s more impressive, though, is that even the economic
underachievers among college graduates earn more than the typical
high school grad: A college graduate at the 25th percentile makes
$730 per week, which is still 13.5 percent more than the median
high school grad.
Things only get worse for high school dropouts. A high school
dropout in the 75th percentile - that is, a worker who earns more
than do three-quarters of all equally educated workers - makes less
than a college graduate in the bottom quartile of his or her
educational class.
The bottom line is that college can be very expensive, and
certainly doesn’t guarantee a high-paying job and a cushy
lifestyle, but at the very least it almost guarantees a
higher-paying job and a cushier lifestyle than what you’d get
without it.
We’ll address the fact that nowhere does she mention how student
finance is nearing crisis
levels.
There are other more sociological explanations at work here, one
being that those who are more inclined toward success see that
society has deemed the four-year sleepover of the college
experience crucial to working success. And where do they get such
an idea? Why, charts (like the one below) that show that those who
see the writing on the wall will get paid more. These studies are
difficult to parse because they don’t really get at the
chicken-or-egg question, which is:
Does college make one smarter and thus a better employee, or
does college simply pool smart people into a more easily tracked
group, with a few oddball dummies tossed in, which totally beats
out all the dummies who dropped out of high school with the few
oddball smartypants tossed in? Forgive the run-on sentence (and the
dummies and smarties cracks), but I’m willing to bet my nickel that
it’s the latter example, because various academic groups are always
lording over us just how much better off the college set is in the
end.
So here’s the chilling item for me in this chart:

Let’s put aside for a moment the Bachelor’s degree set. Let’s
instead look at the “some college or associate degree set.” Those
are the people we should be most concerned about when it comes to
our cajoling them into going to college. The lowest earners among
them earn $516 a week. That’s certainly better than those who earn
$465 a week, who can deny it? Unless you realize that in order to
get that “some college or associate degree,” which earns them a
measly 50 bucks more a week (a mere $2,800/yr salary increase),
they might have had to take out loans. In other words, they might
be earning a higher wage, but they’re not keeping that wage
increase. In fact, they may have less money.
The loan question skews the entire chart. Would it be better to
earn more and take home less? Maybe? I suppose if we want to assume
that the quality of work will be better. But then again, is your
quality of life better if you live under the gun of your college
debt? Are we really defining economic success as revenue in, rather
than some consideration of revenue and debt? Isn’t that the kind of
thinking that causes governments to have debt crises?!
I’m not faulting Rampbell for contributing to the cycle — I
just don’t think this is a particularly telling chart. Discussions
about whether college is “worth the investment” should take into
account how students pay for college. And it may be worth it to go
to a four-year college that has a lower price tag (or just spend
your first two years at a community college, then transfer), so
that way you’re not saddled with six-figure debt once you’re done
with college.
Occam's Tool| 7.25.11 @ 6:54PM
My babies are going to the local State Colleges (U Minn, Minnesota Stae, UND, NDSU) unless they win scholarship.
J.P. Freire| 7.25.11 @ 8:58PM
Hey, start'em off at community college. It's really fulfilling!
Occam's Tool| 7.25.11 @ 9:50PM
Local 4 year college in my small town, that I live 15 minutes from, right next door to my office.
Again, if they do like their mom or me, wherever they wanna go. (Full tuition Chancellor Scholarship at TCU for me, TWO Concurrent FULL RIDE academic scholarships for the Better Half at Alabama.)
WhyBotherWith Enormous State U| 7.25.11 @ 11:12PM
Trade school. And apprenticeships. Learn a life skill that is needed everyday in the marketplace. Electricians, plumbers, builders, farming, HVAC, mechanics, machinists.
Screw college altogether.
You cannot eat Shakespeare, Keats, or Wordsworth.
Your state and the nation need people who can actually produce with their hands -- and minds.
Occam's Tool| 7.26.11 @ 1:49AM
I'm not so sure of that. Jefferson was a farmer who knew his classics cold. VDH is another example of a classicist farmer.
My undergrad science courses, other than teaching me how to study science, have been of far less use to me in my profession as a physician than my readings in Tacitus and Suetonius. Once you have your technical knowledge, the rest becomes knowing people. And for that, little beats Shakespeare.
Medical skills pay for themselves, I have found, particularly if you are willing to work where your skills are scarce.
MikeBee| 7.25.11 @ 11:27PM
What's the purpose of working in a career? One big purpose: saving for retirement, so that you're not extremely poor when you're old.
Better idea than college: become a farmer. When retired, your retirement income grows out of the ground. While young and strong, you take care of the farm yourself. When older and more feeble, you can pay someone else to take care of it for you, receiving less than while you were young, but a retirement income, nonetheless. Or join a Coop, with similar results to paying someone else to take care of your acreage/crops. The debt you incur as a farmer will be for machinery, which will be paid for out of the ground.
As we head into another ice age, your crops will be in high demand, as crops tend to be destroyed by excess rain during ice ages.
Occam's Tool| 7.26.11 @ 1:51AM
Keep in mind that for most people, College IS a waste. But there is a reason that schools are considered important early on in the formation of a society.