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The Spectacle Blog
No doubt, the news from New York on same-sex marriage is disappointing. But I disagree with my conservative colleagues who portray a doom-and-gloom scenario for the cause of traditional marriage in the United States. I don’t see it.
Consider the numbers. Thirty states have amended their constitutions to protect marriage. With the exception of New England, those states encompass every region of the country — the Pacific and mountain west, the Midwest, and the south.
By my count, at least two more states will have amendments on the ballot in 2012 — Minnesota and (likely) North Carolina. If both pass, that would take the total to 32 states, or nearly two-thirds of those in the union. (Indiana might pass one in 2014).
Excluding one failed vote in Arizona, voters have approved a marriage amendment every time one has appeared on the ballot. Even in Arizona, a second try at an amendment was successful.
Compare that to the track record of same-sex marriage. Three states — Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Iowa — redefined marriage through judicial fiat. Only New Hampshire, Vermont, and now New York have done so through legislative process.
Aside from the Iowa anomaly, no states outside liberal-drenched New England have OK’ed same-sex marriage.
That’s hardly a seismic political shift. Polling does suggest a gradual shift in public opinion on the issue, but since when do conservatives make core ideological decisions based on polls? If marriage is a principle worthy of protection — and I believe it is, for society’s good — we should work to defend it regardless.
ArmyGuy| 6.28.11 @ 11:02AM
Wait until Gays come out of the locker in the Armed Forces. How do you suppose soldiers will react to their Sergeants and Officers, running around off duty in a PINK TEDDY! I can't imagine a male Lieutenant being successful, while wearing pink bikini panties! Who will follow a "fairy" into combat?
CalMark| 6.28.11 @ 12:57PM
I saw almost-open gays during my time in the military. They were aggressive and scary, more so because they feel invincible and entitled--the "important people" are on their side, after all.
Then reality will collide with legality. As some homosexual sergeants and officers will belatedly realize when they go after a big, strong Bible-readin' hetero farm boy (yes, liberal elites, they DO exist). Or a "leader" who shows up at an official function with his "man-partner," kissing and holding hands.
The gays can file lawsuits and ruin people's lives with vicious courts martial handing who reserve their most ruinous punishments defending "gay rights" and other P.C. social engineering. Taht will just ratchet up the resentment.
The pro-gay cheerleaders think that forcing immoral laws carrying ridiculously savage penalties for disagreement on everybody will fix everything. Heterosexuality, traditional culture, and moral justice have deep roots in America. The homosexuals and their enablers have a nasty shock coming.
Derek Leaberry| 6.28.11 @ 11:12AM
When you can not draw up the rules governing a society, you have lost. You are impotent. For all those conservatives who actually wish to conserve Western Civilization, natural morality and Christian morality, the defeat in New York is a clear and abject defeat. New Age progress has won in New York; conservatism, Christianity and Western Civilization has been ignominiously shown the door.
On top of that, conservatism has proved to have been unable to "conserve" once again. If conservatives can not conserve what Russell Kirk called the "permanent things", then why even have a conservative movement. A conservative movement must have more going for it than tax cuts for the rich and a ritual support for whatever war Bill Kristol is gung-ho for.
In the end, conservatives should consider withdrawing from public life, withhold their votes from cowardly Republicans who conserve nothing, and letting the society collapse into absolute decadence. Let America, now in absolute hands of the Left, die the death it richly deserves.
Conservative Bob| 6.28.11 @ 12:53PM
Except this..... My children and grand children live in this country. My generation is handing (has handed) the country and the culture to the barbarians. We slept too long or we were polite too long. Not wanting to offend in the beginning preferring polite conversation and being absorbed in our own lives we allowed first a foot hold and later dominance of key institutions, education, and communications.
Now we face an entrenched adversary who controls the microphone and educates our kids. They are able by this means to frame the debate and the very terms used in the discussion. They do not however control the outcome unless we surrender. They want us to surrender it is their wildest dream that we just shut up and go home and leave the defining and discussion to them.
All we do in that case is give them our children and our future. We surrender the promise that was that has been handed down from our founding of individual liberty and the promise of freedom. Every one that has sacrificed since the revolution to the present day will have done so in vain because of us.
We will be the ones to allow the beacon of freedom to the world to be extinguished, because the battle is too hard and it will take too long.
You can resign yourself and your children to that fate if you wish. As for me and mine we will fight on.
CalMark| 6.28.11 @ 1:00PM
Exactly.
Conservative Boomers like to stand back and say, "Ah, it'll be all right." Then go back to ignoring politics, and letting the Left have their way. "Oh, pipe down--stop making waves, don't stick your neck out. Things will work out." We've had that for 50 years, and is why we're in our current mess.
It's no coincidence that while Boomers are tagging along for the ride, the Tea Party was founded and is being run largely by people in their 30s and 40s.
David Minnich| 6.28.11 @ 2:15PM
That's because, for the most part, conservative boomers formed the yuppie branch of the conservative movement. Economically conservative (so they could make their loot) but socially liberal (so they could fit into polite society and not offend their kids).
Derek Leaberry| 6.28.11 @ 4:16PM
I think you got it wrong. It is the younger crowd, the under 40s, who are socially liberal and economically conservative. You know, the sorts with more tattoos than Queeg-Queeg, a solar system of earrings and skin piercings, like to wear their pants so that several inches of underwear show, and listen to rap and techno "music." Most over 50s- I'm 51- tend to be socially more conservative. You know, the sorts of folks with wives and children to support and mortgages to pay.
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