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The Spectacle Blog
The New York Times’s City Room blog has a fascinating account of how close-run the New York same-sex marriage vote was:
Until the end, when 33 state senators had cast their votes on Friday night, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo privately feared that his bill to legalize same-sex marriage would fail.
A few days before, it nearly did.
By Tuesday, Mr. Cuomo had received separate assurances of support from two crucial Republicans, Mark Grisanti of Buffalo and Stephen M. Saland of Poughkeepsie, either of whose endorsement could secure passage of the historic legislation.
But neither man wanted to be the decisive 32nd vote.
The report says, “”The governor settled on a strategy: he informed both that another unnamed Republican would cast a yes vote, meaning that neither Mr. Grisanti nor Mr. Saland would technically be No. 32.” The stories on the swing votes are worth reading.
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Michael L. Hauschild| 6.27.11 @ 10:31AM
Holy Smokes, are you telling us that a democrat outsmarted a couple of republicans.
Clint| 6.27.11 @ 10:42AM
Popeye Doyle,
" O.K. Saland, now I'm gonna bust your ass for those three bags and I'm gonna nail you for picking your feet in Poughkeepsie. "
Tom Osterman| 6.27.11 @ 10:52AM
What a shock: two moderates selling out the base in exchange for deniability. And they wonder why they're called RINOs.
Scott| 6.27.11 @ 10:54AM
I checked Grisanti's website and in his remarks supporting the bill he said, "I have come to believe that all New Yorkers should be entitled to the same 1324 rights that come with a civil marriage."
So... we can look forward to him supporting bills legalizing polygamy and getting rid of the restrictions on siblings getting married? Or is he working from a different definition of "all New Yorkers" than the standard one?
All American American| 6.27.11 @ 11:58AM
You forgot pedophiles, animal-lovers, and necrophiliacs. Although come to think of it, under Obamacare could I marry a dead woman, then get life insurance for her, then collect it? NY here I come!!!!!
Scott| 6.27.11 @ 1:24PM
All the cases you mention are ones where not all parties involved can give informed consent, unlike polygamy and incest.
Going to those absurds doesn't help, because it allows guys like Grisanti to blow off the more serious cases of polygamous and incestuous marriages rather than be forced to deal with the consequences of their rhetoric and actions.
There is nothing in what he said, or in any of the arguments for same-sex marriage that I heard (I live in NY) that would not apply to polygamous marriage or incestous marriage. I say we press them on these marriages. Force them to live up to the full meaning of their rhetoric, or force them to admit their hypocrisy.
They got their victory. I say we make it as epically pyrrhic as possible.
David Minnich| 6.27.11 @ 1:45PM
Well, why not let gay siblings getting married? After all, they can't reproduce, so the concerns over birth defects are moot. Though incest is morally repugnant, we can't discriminate based on these morals; all morals are relative anyway, right?
Scott| 6.27.11 @ 2:00PM
It's not even that complicated: the same-sex marriage crowd took procreative concerns off the table as ground for objecting. If they believe what they preach, how could they put it back on the table when it comes to incestuous marriage?