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The Spectacle Blog
Salon paid me the honor of listing me among their “usual anti-gay suspects” reacting to the New York law. I’m described as “[r]iffing off long-discredited arguments.” Their examples don’t make much sense, however, unless “discredited” now means “I disagree with this.”
Of course, one can disagree that there will be any consequences to severing marriage’s last link to biology. But on the question of whether most gays will marry or what the number of gay marriages will look like, I’m merely basing that on the empirical facts. Pretty much everywhere gay marriage has been legalized there is a relatively large number of gay marriages as the backlog clears, followed by a decline. Maybe New York will be different, but for now this shouldn’t even be a controversial statement.
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Zack| 6.27.11 @ 6:28PM
"Pretty much everywhere gay marriage has been legalized there is a relatively large number of gay marriages as the backlog clears, followed by a decline. "
I'm not sure what that's intended to show. As that quote mentions, there's an artificial "boom" in gay marriages, followed by a decline as pent up demand is met. From the articles you cited, gay marriage in the Netherlands seems to have reached an equilibrium at about 1,000 a year in 2004 or 2005, which is about 3% of all Dutch marriages (according to the last article, somewhere between 2-10% of the Dutch population is gay).
Occam's Tool| 6.27.11 @ 7:11PM
The problem is that most babies are Born out of Wedlock in the Netherlands, too. That's not good for them.
Just not good.
CalMark| 6.27.11 @ 6:40PM
Talk about rose-colored conservative glasses! It's not just "gay marriage." There's far more at stake here.
It's legitimizing the gay "lifestyle" (which includes behavior like huge numbers of partners and serial unfaithfulness that are considered mental and emotional illnesses in everyone BUT gays), forcing schools and even religions to embrace homosexuality, teaching kids specifically that Biblical definitions of morality are evil. The gay lobby might even start lobbying to ban the Bible.
Don't be too surprised if--when--it happens. Even if some conservatives want to live in their world of rainbows (pun intended) and unicorns.
Stan Redmond| 6.28.11 @ 9:09AM
I will really be impressed when the gay lobby takes on the Islamists.
Clint| 6.27.11 @ 8:45PM
There's always somethin' very queer goin' on in New York.
bobmontgomery| 6.27.11 @ 11:48PM
For those who think it does not mock and attempt to destroy traditional marriage, there was a photograph of a 'gay pride' march or whatever (always have to be exhibiting in public, you know) after the NY law was passed. Showed a lesbian couple with one decked out in traditional bride white and the other in traditional black male tux. If it is about homosexuality, why is one pretending to be a male, IF NOT TO MOCK TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE ANDBRAG ABOUT DESTROYING IT.
buckeyeman| 6.28.11 @ 7:47AM
I just saw a cute little waitress over in Blois (France). If I could get my wife to agree (doubtful, 'cause she vetoed the same idea with the Norwegian chick in Key West last month -Uff da!) could I just marry her and stay married to my current lovely wife? I could afford another three or maybe four if I can keep them in line.
If the tenth amendment doesn't apply to France, I could bring her home and get married in, Oh, I don't know, maybe Utah. If it gets too expensive we could bring in a rich guy to share "expenses" and make it a "fivesome" or maybe a "sixsome". Maybe "Bill" would agree, and he could bring in his little pony too! No, I will not consider Little Anthony and his wei... you know what.
Seriously, there is a fundamental conflict between this insanity and the tenth amendment (not to mention reality). Why are gays being unfairly discriminated against but not the much more traditional practices of polygamy and polyandry? Who will unravel the Gordian Knot of pensions and benefits? Why does the tenth amendment not force New York to honor Texas' Defense of Marriage Act? I'm confused. And anxious. Maybe the French waitress could ease my stress.
Stan Redmond| 6.28.11 @ 9:10AM
You could be a Muslim.