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The Spectacle Blog
I’m a conservative, a strong friend and supporter of Israel, and I like the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. But like The Atlantic’s Jeff Goldberg, I was taken aback by Bibi’s statement of disrespect for President Obama.
Netanyahu is upset at Obama for saying that “the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed [land] swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.”
Now, this has many friends and supporters of Israel up in (rhetorical) arms, because they say, Obama is imposing retro and untenable 1967 borders on Israel without asking anything in return of the Palestinians.
I understand this concern, but think it’s been overstated for partisan political reasons. In truth, as John Tabin has observed here at The American Spectator, Obama’s position is essentially the Israeli position.
Indeed, Obama, Tabin notes, has “explicitly rejected the Palestinian effort to seek U.N. recognition for a state on the ‘67 borders, which is why many pro-Palestinian commentators are upset with him.”
Yet Netanyahu issued a statement yesterday articulating what he “expects” to hear from Obama during their meeting today.
Specifically, Netanyahu said he “expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004 [when George W. Bush was president], which were overwhelmingly supported by both Houses of Congress.”
But when did U.S. allies get in the habit of issuing statements of expectation (demands really) upon American presidents? As Goldberg explains,
I don’t like this word, “expect.” Even if there weren’t an imbalance between these two countries — Israel depends on the U.S. for its survival, while America, I imagine, would continue to exist even if Israel ceased to exist — I would find myself feeling resentful about the way Netanyahu speaks about our President.
Netanyahu had an alternative, of course: He could have said, as he got on the plane to Washington, where today — awkward! — he will be meeting with President Obama:
“The President today delivered a very fine speech. His condemnation of Hamas and Iran, his question about whether the Palestinians actually seek peace; his strong language against Syria; his recognition of Israel as a Jewish state; his re-assertion of the unshakeable bond between our two nations — all of this and more brought joy to my heart.
“There are a couple of points in the speech, having to do with borders and refugees, that I would like to clarify with the President when I see him, and I’m looking forward to a constructive dialogue on these few issues.”
Of course, Goldberg continues, Netanyahu didn’t say this. Instead, he attempted to dictate to Obama what Obama should say and do.
That’s not a smart move on Bibi’s part, because disrespecting our president compels American Israeli supporters such as myself to rally to Obama’s side.
It’s obvious that Netanyahu and Obama don’t like each other. Their hostility dates back to Obama’s early days in office when Obama called on Netanyahu to halt Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Netanyahu refused.
Both men have legitimate concerns. However, Netanyahu does himself and Israel no favors when he publicly disrespects our president.
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Michael L. Hauschild| 5.20.11 @ 12:46PM
“…..Netanyahu does himself and Israel no favors when he publicly disrespects our president.”
There is no man on earth that is as blatantly disrespectful as Obama. He has stood dignitaries up, missed scheduled meeting times with our allies while bowing in public to our enemies. He is not worth of carrying Netanyahu’s water, nor are you.
JmsA| 5.20.11 @ 2:28PM
Well stated, Mr. Hauschild. Thank you.
James| 5.23.11 @ 2:09AM
Wow, so now our President is not good enough to be a water boy for a subsidiary state of the United States? If you are going to say how President Obama has been disrespectful, the least you could do is state some examples. Netanyahu is defending a minority position in Israel and weakening the United States' foreign policy and national defense efforts in the meanwhile.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:00PM
Bibi didn't give us 10% unemployment, $5 a gallon gas, crushing national debt and never-ending wars in the Middle East. That would be Obama.
Who is really weakening the U.S.?
Natan| 5.20.11 @ 12:46PM
Are you serious? If anyone was disrespectful it was Obama in his dishonest scheme to upstage and blindside Netanyahu. In doing this Obama disqualified himself as respectful and objective mediator. There is no point in trying to pacify a radical ideologue exposing his bias and prejudice.
DRed| 5.20.11 @ 1:37PM
We believe that through good-faith negotiations, the parties can mutually agree on an outcome which ends the conflict and reconciles the Palestinian goal of an independent and viable state, based on the 1967 lines, with agreed swaps, and the Israeli goal of a Jewish state with secure and recognized borders that reflect subsequent developments and meet Israeli security requirements.
That's Hillary Clinton, speaking in November 2009. How can you claim that Bibi was blindsided? And I'm ignoring the fact that the Bush and Clinton administrations shared basically the same policy. So what exactly are you so upset about?
simon templar| 5.20.11 @ 2:05PM
We are upset with your historical revisionism, lame arguments, downright lies, and desire for the destruction of the Israel state. Is that a little clearer for you. Oh, by the way, personally I am sick of looking at your daily troll post. They are old, tiring, and the usual left wing horseshit..you could take a vacation...and I could write them for you...they are so predictable.
DRed| 5.20.11 @ 2:18PM
It's a fact that Hillary Clinton said that in 2009. It's a fact that since the Clinton administration the US has been pushing for a two state solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict based on a division of territory roughly corresponding to the armistice lines of 1967. How is that historical revisionism? Instead of just spouting insults and paranoid right wing fantasy nonsense, why don't you try to be specific?
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 2:52PM
Hamas was not part of the ruling Palestinian Authority in 2009, DRed, nor was Egypt threatening to pull out of Camp David.
Obama has been terribly nasty to Bibi throughout. Bibi has the right, and obligation, to state when he thinks certain moves by Obama threaten the existence of Israel. Without US support, Israel would probably go nuclear openly and WWIII would start.
George S| 5.20.11 @ 3:21PM
And why isn't Hillary jumping in to back Obama?
DRed| 5.20.11 @ 3:34PM
"Palestinian leaders will not achieve peace or prosperity if Hamas insists on a path of terror and rejection. And Palestinians will never realize their independence by denying the right of Israel to exist."
What about that threatens the existence of Israel? Obama advocated for a de-militarized palestinian state, rejected the Palestinian plan to de-legitimize Israel in the UN, rejected any deal with Hamas as long as they advocate violence and refuse to recognize the right of Israel to exist. That's basically the program of every American president is recent memory. There's absolutely nothing new in that plan. What else did you want? And why are you suddenly so afraid?
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:06PM
We've studied history, fool, and we don't want to repeat it.
Morrisminor| 5.21.11 @ 2:40PM
Yes, all the calendars are still 1938 in your house
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:02AM
What a nauseatingly stupid post. Yes, we all know--history never repeats itself.
SharpRightTurn | 5.20.11 @ 3:36PM
DRed -
Obama has substantially changed the policy of the US in his speech yesterday.
The difference is that now the negotiations have moved to a starting point that includes Israel going back to its 1967 borders..not a position that merely states we should have concessions from both sides in dealing with border boundaries, etc.
And Obama included NO defined concessions for which the Palestinians must begin negoatiating in his latest speech on the matter.
In addition, the Bush and Clinton policies were not "basically" the same. Both administrations and those before them agreed that Israel must maintain "defensible" borders --- a concept that was substantiated again in Bush's secret talks with Sharron back in 2004. In addition, the US has generally always taken a stance that doesn't, at least outwardly, make substantial demands of Israel in the belief that it weakens the position of Israel, our ally, in dealing with the Palestinians.
DRed| 5.20.11 @ 4:05PM
The 1967 borders have always been a starting point in any conversations about a two state solution. I'm not sure where else you would begin.
"As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself - by itself - against any threat. Provisions must also be robust enough to prevent a resurgence of terrorism; to stop the infiltration of weapons; and to provide effective border security. The full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces should be coordinated with the assumption of Palestinian security responsibility in a sovereign, non-militarized state. The duration of this transition period must be agreed, and the effectiveness of security arrangements must be demonstrated.
These principles provide a foundation for negotiations. Palestinians should know the territorial outlines of their state; Israelis should know that their basic security concerns will be met. "
I recognize that's pretty vague (much like the whole speech), but it's unmistakable that Obama recognizes that Israel needs to be able to defend itself. I know how much most of you hate Obama, but even so I'm surprised at the vehement reaction to what I thought was a bland speech.
SharpRightTurn | 5.20.11 @ 4:21PM
If Obama means what he says then how does he propose that Israel defend itself when its only border is with Palestine --- as per what Obama outlined?
Netanyahu calls it indefensible. I guess that means nothing to a US President who has not put any similar security-threatening demands upon the Palestininans? Remember, Israel is in the defensive position here, the Palestininans the aggressors.
The Palestinians have been so good to keep their word on past agreements /sarc off
Obama's whole premise sounds good on paper and when spoken but basically puts the onus on Israel in terms of its security with very little demanded of the Palestinians.
DRed| 5.20.11 @ 5:28PM
Considering that the Palestinians would be de-militarized, the only way for either state to defend itself would be for Israel to have troops west of the Jordan. Would the Palestinians agree to that, and would they keep their word? Probably not. Even if the Israelis agreed with Obama, I don't think the peace agreement would work. But I don't see how keeping the status quo is in Israels interest either.
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:07PM
Israel will never negotiate with Hamas. To do so would be commiting suicide.
DRed| 5.20.11 @ 11:51PM
Did I say they should negotiate with Hamas? No. Did Obama say they should negotiate with Hamas? No. So, nice-we all agree.
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:04AM
Who knows what Obama said? I don't think he even knows what he said.
Israel will never negotiate with Hamas.
Morrisminor| 5.21.11 @ 2:42PM
Not true again. Obama demanded that the PA reject Hamas, completely agree in every way to Israel's right to exist and be non militarized. He also said they must negotiate directly with Israel, not use the UN as a mob scene.
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:05AM
Too bad Obama also wanted Israel to agree to the re-establishment of indefensible borders.
You saw how that worked out for the Bamster, didn't you?
American Patriot| 5.23.11 @ 12:51AM
Natan is absolutely right. Obama has revealed himself to be no friend of any US ally including Israel. Remember Mubarack?
It is clear Obama has no use for Israel and would be happy to see it replaced. By proposing to cut Israel in half he makes his intention clear.
RAC| 5.20.11 @ 12:56PM
"That's not a smart move on Bibi's part, because disrespecting our president compels American Israeli supporters such as myself to rally to Obama's side."
Bravo. Excellent point. Israel and the US will need to work together to prevent September's expected UN recognition of Palestine from becoming a disaster. Bibi is undermining the unity he depends on. Bibi also should be mindful of turning US support for Israel from a bipartisan issue into a partisan issue.
Louis Tully| 5.20.11 @ 12:57PM
"Disrespecting our president compels American Israeli supporters such as myself to rally to Obama's side."
Speak for your self. That's embarrassing and pathetic.
annabell| 5.20.11 @ 6:02PM
Amen. It makes me rally to BiBi's side. Obama is and has been an embarassment from the beginning.
The Underground Conservative | 5.20.11 @ 7:30PM
I wouldn't rally to Obama's side if the sequel to 9/11 happened. Never.
Not. My. President.
November 4, 2008 was the first day I was ever ashamed to be an American and that feeling will not change until this anti-American usurper is gone.
joanee| 5.20.11 @ 10:51PM
This inept wolf in sheeps clothing has a dangerous agenda, and has been implementing it since day 1. EVERYDAY there's something..the moratorium, the defoicit, lies, lies and mor e deals and lies.
God help us. I love my country, and you described 911 was the worse thing to happen to us, until this arrogant wanna be dictator fool. I have to hope to quote that loser that he loses BIG TIME in 2012. If people read, listen and acknowledge that we are in a malaise, and no one has a job-they'll vote him out.
Younger Soldier| 5.21.11 @ 3:47AM
Well you people aren't patriots to begin with it's not surprising.
Diane in WA| 5.20.11 @ 1:06PM
Speak for yourself.
Personally, I'd suggest Netanyahu could well demonstrate his respect for our nation and the office of the US presidency by suggesting that the boundaries of that office be returned to the January 20, 1981 borders.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.20.11 @ 1:11PM
Guardiano,
I'm glad TAS lets stupids like you spout off here from time to time.
Hey,
I have not one smidgeon of respect for the Obamas.
Rally to him if you must. I have enough disdain to go around to you.
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 2:56PM
Giardano is not known for his perspicacity on ME issues. I believe that he was the author of the notorious "Smearing the Egyptian Protesters is like smearing the Tea Partiers."
John, I appreciate your support for Israel. But Bibi is right on this issue, and Obama, as usual, is dead wrong. With Hamas in the PA picture, 1967 borders is a non-starter.
CalMark| 5.20.11 @ 1:11PM
Obama throws Israel to the Arab wolves, and a pundit slams the leader of Israel for disrespect.
What an appalling post. Shame on you, AmSpec!
Bob K.| 5.20.11 @ 1:11PM
Slowly but surely disagreeing with the President is being equated with disrespecting him. Writers who understand this have increased their chances of getting important work with the mainstream media.
annabell| 5.20.11 @ 6:05PM
Exactly! What ever happened to "respectful dialogue"? And we are also branded as racist if we disagree. I don't care if he is red, yellow, pruple, green, whatever. I disagree with him. In fact, I am interested in Herman Cain. I am NOT racist.
Younger Soldier| 5.21.11 @ 3:54AM
Read any of the conservative blogs, rallies, news sites or even this one. The concept of respectful dialogue is foreign to your conservative compadres. The name calling and garage these people write only reinforces what everyone knows. Most of you have racist views. Period. You may not be annabell but there are many in your group that are.
2Anglico| 5.21.11 @ 9:08AM
LMAO! The pot calls the kettle black.
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:11AM
Yes, if we disagree with a black president we're racist! Clown.
We all know how polite those union thugs were in Wisconsin: Hundreds of vicious death threats against Republicans and millions of dollars in damages to the Wisconsin Capitol building. "Peaceful" democrats in action.
Dan Sudlik| 5.20.11 @ 1:29PM
I have to add my agreement to the comments. Obama has disrespected most of our allies including the British most famously but certainly Israel. Why couldn't the President have told the Muslim countries such as Syria and Egypt to stop the persecution of the Christians.
simon templar| 5.20.11 @ 1:32PM
Hey, Johnny, maybe the Israeli Prime Minister is racist! Once again, what is in that DC beltway water? Congrats! You have won the prestigious award for the most lame, idiotic, and self defeating article written by a so-called conservative columnist for the month. Newt got the award for best idiotic conservative statement in the politician category.
victor| 5.21.11 @ 7:33PM
Nope Ross Kaminsky gets that award for saying he blames the blood of the dead from drug abuse on those of us who want to keep illegal drugs illegal.
Some idiotic Lefty Libertarians write for this supposed conservative mag.
Ariely| 5.20.11 @ 1:33PM
Where to Obama leads?
Obama is not demanding the Arab/Iran to outlaw parties with the agenda:
No-human rights-democracy-woman equality-all religious free practice-building non muslim praing houses
Yes-hate teaching,preaching worldwide--impose by sward Islamism worldwide-genoside agenda
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Obama-repeates past mistakes.
The Nazi get to power in Germany by free elections.
Europe made concetions to the Nazi including Czechoslovakia stating:we bring peace for generations to come.
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Obama pls reconsider your ME policy.
ME unrest is due:unemployment,poor life,counties ruled by minority tribes.Not the quest for western style democracy or Israeli conflict.However Obama misconceptions leads to wrong political actions
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Obama:
Pls lessen to leading political groups say in Arabic language-not in English to the west media
1:The powerfull worldwide Muslim brotherhood idiology.
A;"A Muslim can come closer to Allah by waging jihad against all non-Muslims,Christians,Jews, atheists,in every possible manner
B:Muslim brotherhood leader speech in Cairo before 1 million people:
"Hitler didn’t finish the job-The Muslims will finish the Job"
Obama said that Muslim brotherhood is a legitimate movement
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2:Obama claimed that stopping Islamist Iran form getting NUK is related to the Arab–Israel conflict:
Wikileaks disclosed:Arab leaders requested USA to stop Islamist Iran,the regional historical Arabs geopolitical enemy- by any means
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3:Obama policy result is a total stand still of direct negations between Palestine's and Israel.
Obama is not respecting previous agreements between USA presidents and Israel
DC| 5.20.11 @ 1:39PM
Fairly shocking to find this level of Dear Leader Hussein worship by a regular AmSpec columnist. It was extremely, way-overboard respectful for Netanyahu to NOT simply cancel his visit to the U.S., put the Israeli nation on full war footing, and start replacing its conventional with its nuke warheads on its tactical short-range missiles. Recalling the Israeli ambassadors to from both D.C. and New York (U.N.) would have been an equally measured and reasonable response. No statements, no whining, just action. Unlike Dear Leader Hussein, who is all words, no action, and what words he says are calculated lies.
Rally to this anti-American, pro-Islamic, Mussolinian fascist monkey? Never...he's shown his true colors (again), and the colors all vividly proclaim the same ideology: piss on America's allies, strengthen the hand of its enemies, turn citizens into slaves. Guardiano feel free to join with your Dear Leader Hussein. Count me out--and for the record, I'm not Jewish and frankly couldn't care less about jews or Israel, except that it is in the national interest of the U.S. to keep Israel as an ally and prevent its destruction by an Arab or Persian atomic bomb.
Netanyahu needs to stop wasting his time trying to make friends with the jackals in this treasonous administration. Go back home and start loading the serious weapons.
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 2:59PM
DC,
You don't care about me? (Sniff)
Well, I'd rather have a guy who realizes that Israel is useful to the US than a "Clint" who brags about how many bar-mitzvahs he goes to.
Seriously, though---treatment of Jews is an excellent indication of a society's overall human rights record. That's why Jews are important to care about---they are the canaries in the coal mine.
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 3:06PM
Gotta tell you, DC---I think you do care, and this Jewish guy is glad that you do. I'd rather have "uncaring" people like you than "friends" like John.
Younger Soldier| 5.21.11 @ 3:56AM
Yeah go back home and load those weapons. Start another war. Yeah! Kill Kill Kill! That's the ticket.
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:13AM
Start another war? Was Libya a threat to our national security? Obama's looking as warlike as GWB. Think before you spew, troll.
Quill| 5.20.11 @ 1:40PM
Here's what Bibi should "expect" from Obama: The president's size 12 shoe print on his fat backside. Along with a friendly reminder of who the superpower is. And if Bibi complains, or seeks to undermine Obama with Americans, Obama should let the next anti-Israel Security Council Resolution (Palestinian statehood) pass.
simon templar| 5.20.11 @ 1:57PM
Get lost jew hating troll.
dc| 5.20.11 @ 2:44PM
Only someone with his nose and portions of his tiny brain shoved way, way up Dear Leader Hussein's cloaca thinks this way...if Netanyahu were "kicked out" of D.C., I don't think his first move would be to plead for the U.S. to keep opposing the gaggle of 3d world filth at the U.N., most of whom are far closer to Dear Leader's ideology than either group of anti-American scum is willing to (publicly) admit. No, what he'd do is go back home and mobilize his country, load up the nukes, and the next time some raghead or whining bitch "diplomat" from the U.S. or E.U. aggravated him, he'd act in Israel's best interest, which might just mean starting a nuclear war. Or simply eliminating the near-term threats in Gaza or the West Bank. In either case, Dear Leader's administration wouldn't really be able to do much about it. The U.S. has already abdicated its leadership role in the world (maybe you hadn't noticed)--Netanyahu is a serious man paying un-necessary courtesy calls on a man he knows is his sworn, mortal enemy. Most people here (other than a few AmSpec columnists and stray idiots like you and DRed) realize that too. Go ply your trade at the U.N., amongst the greasy, filthy detritus of the world welfare addicts, whose opinions you value so much.
I'm starting to actually look forward to a War of Secession in this country--I just don't see fake Americans like Quill, DRed, etc. living in the same nation for very long.
Quill| 5.20.11 @ 3:11PM
Sorry. It's our country. You're free to leave anytime, but you won't be taking any part of my country with you.
Oh, and the use of "raghead," just proves that you're a low-life bigot who shares none of our American values.
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:10PM
We'll see whose country this is in 2012, jackass.
Younger Soldier| 5.21.11 @ 3:57AM
If you don't like how things are you could always do us all a favor and kill yourself. Do it in the bathtub. Less of a mess.
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:14AM
Typical "liberal tolerance" on display.
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 3:00PM
Quill,
do you have any daughters? And do they already wear the burkha? If they don't, a lot more credit goes to Bibi than to Barack.
Quill| 5.20.11 @ 3:14PM
Why not just change your screen name to Islamophobe and save us from reading your racist rantings?
Todd S| 5.20.11 @ 3:35PM
Funny having a hater of Israel accuse a Jew of being racist. Netanyahu is a real man who has served on the front lines against the Islamonazis, not a man-child like Obama. Like a typical liberal, you buy into the victim-hood narrative of the Palestinian's and the Arabs which is complete bs. Their societies suck for a reason and it is not because of Israel. It is because they worship a savage pedophile warlord by the name of Mohammed.
Quill| 5.20.11 @ 3:53PM
I'l be happy to compare my charitable contributions to Israel to yours anytime.
Your Islamophobia is unAmerican and immoral, Teahdist.
So is denying people their inalienable rights and democratic rights to self-determination. Israel's occupation does both of those. Either you believe in our founding principles or you do not. And you clearly do not.
Todd S| 5.20.11 @ 4:49PM
Tell me Quill, who are you donated money to exactly? The opponents of Netanyahu? Please tell me how exactly it is Islamophobic to state the truth about Mohammed? Was he not a warlord that married a child? And is not the Middle East culture a cesspool of intolerance and backwardness? Btw, I lived in Indonesia for a time and have several Muslim friends so I am in no way a bigot but I will make no excuse for the destructiveness of Islamic ideology.
2Anglico| 5.20.11 @ 3:44PM
The 19 Pilgrims who slammed airplanes into buildings in 2001 were not wearing Yarmulke's.
Quill| 5.20.11 @ 3:56PM
And, if they had been, would you blame all Jews? Only if you are a bigot.
You apparently are unfamiliar with the Jewish terrorism of the British mandate days. The terrorists were evil. Not all Jews.
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:12PM
Leftist clowns like you pander to those who slaughtered 3000 innocent Americans on 9/11.
That's your idea of "patriotism."
2Anglico| 5.21.11 @ 9:14AM
So typical, telling others what you ASSUME they don't know!
DC| 5.20.11 @ 3:56PM
That's right, Quill, anyone who supports Israel's right to exist and doesn't whack off to pictures of Dear Leader Hussein is an "islamophobe." There are very good reasons to be "phobic" of Islamists, by the way. Or ragheads, or camel jockeys, or dune coons--are there any other terms I'm not allowed to use under your Sharia law?
And Occam, you're right I do care more than I let on, I simply can't abide traitors pretending that love of Dear Leader is more important than actual support for the Constitution and the United States, as conceived by those dead white guys that assmonkeys like Quill despise so much. Israel is a U.S. ally, period. The U.S. has a vested interest in Israel as the one and only respectable representative state in the middle east, otherwise a cesspool of medieval filth that ought to be turned into a sea of glass. Israel isn't perfect. Jews aren't perfect (neither are Christians). But both have ample reason to fear the trampling and elimination of the Judeo-Christian culture that has sustained the greatest, most free, most prosperous civilizations in human history, against a pack of sandsucking millenialist totalitarians, who are actively trying to scrub us from the earth.
Now, Quill, it's clear whose side you're on in that fight. Explain to us all why your side should and will win. Moral superiority? Allah's better than God? You treat women so much better? Go ahead, explain. I'm making sure the actions on all my rifles are nice and clean. As I'm sure many Israelis are too.
Quill| 5.20.11 @ 4:03PM
"I'm making sure the actions on all my rifles are nice and clean."
Why not just wear a T-shirt that says "I am not well endowed?" See, a pussy with a clean action is still a pussy.
"Or ragheads, or camel jockeys, or dune coons--are there any other terms I'm not allowed to use under your Sharia law?"
Those words reflect on you and your lack of upbringing, not on me. Use them all you want. They say all we need to know about you: dullard, scumbag, bigot.
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:14PM
Dune coons is a new one to me. lol
Crawl back under your rock, slimeball.
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:20PM
Quill, too bad you didn't address DC's valid concerns. Your cowardice proves you are unAmerican and anti-Israel.
Pecos| 5.20.11 @ 1:41PM
Perhaps Mexican President Calarone whispered this little tip on dealing with Obama the Apologetic in Netanyahu's ear.
Stand Strong Israel.
Rich Berger| 5.20.11 @ 1:42PM
I agree that Mr. N. should not show disrespect for Obama. I recommend that he issue the following statement of praise: " I don't think there has been a greater leader or friend of Israel since Winston Churchill".
Uli Kunkel| 5.20.11 @ 1:46PM
What could be more disrespectful than Obuckehead's treatment of American citizens, with regards to the economy, jobs, his dismantling of health care, his lack of knowledge of our history, incessant ability to give speeches laced with his attempt at humor (sick), and brings me to Netanyahu, who I wish would slap Obonehead when he sees him!!! Our president is a disgrace!!!
martin j smith| 5.20.11 @ 1:50PM
John--your batty. Netenyahu has the lives Israelis and in particular the Jewish People in his hands. Obama does not give a crap about Jews or anyone else but himself. Go jump in the lake if you believe Netenyahu was "too disrespectful" You can call yourself whatever you want but I call you ________________ and you can fill in whatever pajoritive you can think of.
I am surprised Netenyahu did not turn around, head home and tell the Israeli People that there will be a referendum for or against Obama's "proposal" and let his people vote on that.
Speaking of disrespect--It is Obama the disrespecter--so I really wonder about YOU.
Joe| 5.20.11 @ 1:53PM
President Obama's newly stated Middle East policy is in essence the fulfillment of one Bible prophecy and it sets the stage for all of Bible prophecy to be fulfilled.
In his speech to make clear his new Middle East policy, President Obama made demands of the Jewish state of Israel that will make it impossible for Israel to defend itself from its many enemies in the Middle East. Of most concern to the leaders of Israel is the demand that Israel give back the land it took to establish a buffer zone between itself and its Arab enemies in 1967.
As the political debates continue, the prophetic passages of God's Word give us great insight into the significance of Obama's new Middle East policy. As it relates to the land that Obama demands Israel give to the Palestinians, this land does not belong to the United States who are making these demands, but it does belong to God (Leviticus 25:23). As it relates to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, the Bible says that Jesus will return to this area and reign among the Jewish people from a temple on the Temple Mount forever (Zechariah 1:16, 6:12, Psalm 132:13-14).
The fact that a Gentile world leader is dictating to the Jewish people about the Temple Mount and what should happen there is exactly what Jesus Christ said would happen - that Jerusalem would come under control of the Gentile world powers at the time of the end and remain under their control until He returns to the earth (Luke 21:24).
In one speech, US President Obama has not only fulfilled Bible prophecy but he has also set the stage for additional Bible prophecy to be fulfilled.
simon templar| 5.20.11 @ 1:54PM
Are you Johnny secretly an anti-semite? Bam Bam is the one doing the dictating, disrepecting, and side swiping of an ally and you want the prime minister to kiss his ass? It is not ok to ask a US president to honor US committments..committments given in writing? They do not have a right to expect? Tabin. Oh, I see a little AS dirtbag columunist is now the world expert on US-Israeli relations and history? The rest of the columnist, the prime minister, the GOP, and most of America got it all wrong? Come on Johnny admit it, you got those tingles for the bamster? Man crush, eh? Look AS..you better start using your editorial responsibilities. It is great to have a diversity of opinions but this is absurd. Do you have any standards. Is any kind of intellectual honesty expected or required here let alone simple logic? Go..ahead..keep ignoring your readership and keep publishing this shit and you will find yourselves in the same spot as MSNBC.
Mike 3/505| 5.20.11 @ 1:57PM
Here's what Bibi should "expect" from Obama: The president's size 12 shoe print on his fat backside. Along with a friendly reminder of who the superpower is. And if Bibi complains, or seeks to undermine Obama with Americans, Obama should let the next anti-Israel Security Council Resolution (Palestinian statehood) pass."
Fine...and Bibi can remind POTUS that Israel has nukes the she can use if sufficiently threatened...How would POTUS like to be blamed for starting a nuclear conflict in Southwest Asia.
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 3:04PM
Bibi is a lot stronger supporter of a strong and secure USA than Obama is.
Younger Soldier| 5.21.11 @ 4:04AM
Wow you thought that one up all by yourself?
2Anglico| 5.21.11 @ 9:16AM
Don't go away mad, troll, just go away!
Red Phillips | 5.20.11 @ 2:01PM
The President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should have NOTHING to say about the Israel/Palestine conflict either way. It is not our business.
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 3:01PM
Nuclear debris floating down over our sources of oil is our business, Red. Sorry.
victor| 5.20.11 @ 3:17PM
Redder than Red Phillips:
"The President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should have NOTHING to say about the _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ conflict either way. It is not our business."
What else should the President of The United States ignore or be oblivious to, eh?
What else should be none of his business?
Red Phillips | 5.20.11 @ 6:00PM
Victor, the President of the United States should, for an analogous example, have nothing to say about the Northern Ireland situation because he is ... well ... the President of the United States and not the leader of Ireland or England. It really isn't that difficult to understand.
martin j smith| 5.20.11 @ 2:05PM
Mike 3/505--if "at the end of the day " Obama expects Netenyahu to give up the store for nothing then I can imagine Netenyahu saying: Look, Barak Jews were nearly dessimated once and you and your nation did not lift a finger. This time if we are going down so will the region AND OTHER PLACES AS WELL. Bug off Barak
One other point: If John Guardiano and Jeff Goldberg think they support Israel--G-D help us.
martin j smith| 5.20.11 @ 2:09PM
Check out on Drudge Report a Politico article showing how a number of Republicans --some in the Presidential race have been openly critical of Obama . So John and your buddy Jeff-Go get a Kasha Knish.
LogicalUS| 5.20.11 @ 2:23PM
Yeah, the state of Israel should deal in good faith with the spiritual kin of Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan, first class anti-semites, Barry Obama.
Are you too dense to remember the video hidden by the LA Times in which little Barry is praising and toast Palistinian terrorists? "Journalists" could let that little bit of information get out on their man.
Barack lost any chance of respect during the last visit when he presented a list of Palistinian demands to Biji and then walked out of the meeting to dine with his skank of a wife.
But that is what the Left wanted when they voted for a first class racist and anti-semite.
John| 5.20.11 @ 2:39PM
John Guardiano,
Your reaction is understandable, but unfortunate. Obama does not represent your interests. Any instinctive reaction you have to defend Obama is just that, an instinct. There is no reason to defend this man.
somnolence| 5.20.11 @ 2:40PM
The headline is little more than sophomoric ramblings or naive shepherd leading drivel. Obama deserves no respect from the Prime Minister of a country who has twice the backbone of the Pretender In Chief, and who has been the recipient of being thrown under the bus. Hopefull, Bibi won't have to prove to Mr. Obama just what kind of arsenal Israel has in defending itself against a rogue Mideast. In fact, do ANY of us really know the dimensions of Israel's capabilities. Today, Bibi handed the Kenyan his ass in front of the cameras, and yeah, I'm glad.
Wayne | 5.20.11 @ 2:41PM
One does not have to be partisan to see that Obama does not deserve respect. How some conservatives after 2 + years of him see it other way is a mystery to me.
Oldefarte| 5.20.11 @ 2:42PM
I am truly saddened by John's unfortionate commentary. Respect this president? Does he deserve respect? His administration has used their Justice Dept to negate its pursuit of legal action against the New Black Panthers in Philadelphia, to file suit against Arizona for desperately attempting to protect its citizens from an onslaught of illegal immigrants into its borders [when it is the Federal government's reponsibility in the first place], to threaten and intimidate a private oil company with legal action and to extort a slush fund [the proceeds of which have mysteriously disappeared]; their Interior Dept to ignorantly stop oil drilling/production off Louisiana's coast and to forestall the issuance of drilling permits thereafter; their diplomatic corp and State Dept has personally insulted and demeaned Israel's PM in an attempt to force their compliance towards a Palestine that openly declares its intent to destroy Israel; and someone persons have the gall to suggest that Israel's PM is disrespecting this country's president? What planet are you possibly living upon? OMG, give me a GD break, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anji| 5.20.11 @ 2:47PM
I would ask that the author of this article remove his head from his rear orifice. Netanyahu disrespectful of Obama??? This president is the most arrogant, narcissistic, know-nothing on earth. Listening and watching Netanyahu shows what a real leader looks and sounds like. No demands, just quiet truths. As far as I'm concerned, by showing up, Netanyahu showed far more "respect" to Obama than he deserved.
Nolann Ryann| 5.20.11 @ 2:49PM
One of the most idiotic musings in the history of AmSpec blogging. That also includes much of the drivel Tabbin throws around on a weekly basis. Guardino has officially joined the dunce of the month club. Guardino is leading the voting for MVP and we're not even at the all star break.
big bob| 5.20.11 @ 2:53PM
I don't know who the heck you think you are, but you are not conservative and you are no friend of Israel. Your mentality is the reason Obama is in the position of power he is in this country. Our opposition leaders don't have the biology they were born with. During their first meeting, King O'bama wouldn't even meet with Bibi for dinner but left him by himself. His speech yesterday was nothing more than an attempt to one up Bibi before his meeting today. You have missed all that and more. Bibi said nothing untrue to our man-child president. In fact, Bibi could have been even more brutal and still not gone overboard with our narcissist cum president. I imagine your essays will not have a place in my reading any more if you are this dense and touchy at the same time. Please get a clue.
martin j smith| 5.20.11 @ 2:55PM
BTW: Listen to Netenyahu's comments after the meeting with Obama. Netenyahu said it like it is--John and Jeff why don't you go back to sleep
or something.
The PM laid out the issues he believed directly relevant to any hypothetical peace agreement with the Palestinians . It is clear it is not what Obama has in mind. Yet there was not one word of disrespect--and here is the real issue--Netenyahu IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ISRAEL'S SECURITY NOT BARAK OBAMA.
Obama has enough problems to deal with our own security.
Todd S| 5.20.11 @ 2:57PM
With all due respect John Guardiano, you should be completely embarrassed by this garbage and for running to Obama's defense. The real disrespect was shown by Obama with his attack on Israel yesterday and proclaiming the need for 1967 borders which is suicidal for Israel. Netanyahu was completely justified in his actions in standing up to Obama and letting him know Israel will not be pushed around by him, I can only hope the Republicans can nominate someone who is half the man and leader that he is. If you don't come to your senses and apologize for this baffling attack on Netanyahu for someone who claims to be conservative and an opponent of Obama, you have lost all credibility with me along with many others readers here.
Tina B| 5.20.11 @ 2:58PM
I agree with those of you who are upset at TAS for the stance of this column/opinion/blog. I have seen the arguments with other AmSpec writers and John G, and they always revolve around his apparent lack of respect for Israel and her supporters.
Most of us who are Christians recognize the Jewish ownership of Jerusalem and Israeli ownership of her borders since her inception in 1954. We also have seen the disrespect shown by BHO to both Great Britain and to Israel on many occasions. BHO disrespects patriotic Americans, the US of A, our Constitution, our Judeo-Christian heritage, our military, let me see, what else?
And I am supposed to criticize Bebe as the DISrespectful one? I think not! I can very easily give respect to those who respect themselves. But to the greatest liar, cheater and thief who has ever held the highest seat in our land? What's to respect? The office? No one was criticizing the reliability of the office, but the man. And Benjamin Netanyahu was absolutely correct to voice his expectations, maybe just to make them heard.
WL| 5.20.11 @ 2:58PM
I'm done with Am. Spectator....
I WOULD GIVE BOTH OF MY ARMS TO HAVE BIBI in THIS COUNTRY...
We sure need him instead of our mealy mouthed leaders and columnists....
Like Rush says...we just need to go find BIBI a birth certificate in Hawaii....
Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 3:03PM
I must say...with very few exceptions, what magnificent bloggers TAS has. And what a pinhead columnist. "Side with Obama?" Are you nuts?
Todd S| 5.20.11 @ 3:06PM
First Ben Stein running to the defense of the French pervert rapist and now John Guardiano with Obama, what the hell is going on at the Spectator this week? Seems like Mr. Tyrell might want to exercise more editorial control if he wants this to continue to be a respected conservative website. Let Stein and Guardiano write their drivel elsewhere, don't think they would be missed much.
CalMark| 5.20.11 @ 3:21PM
Alas, Mr. Tyrrell has been off the rails lately, as well.
Looks like I'm not the only one noticing AmSpec's sudden and radical nosedive to the left and into incoherence.
Todd S| 5.20.11 @ 3:49PM
Lets not go overboard, there is still much high quality conservative thought on the Spectator but there are a few bad apples that should be purged. John also recently compared the Egyptian protesters to the Tea Party which is even dumber and more insulting than this. At least Mr. Tyrrell had the decency to apologize for his article awhile back saying he was ok with the TSA groping. Not that we should have no different points of view but incoherent garbage with no factual basis that Ben Stein and John write on a regular basis should have no place here.
Saber| 5.20.11 @ 3:08PM
You have got to be kidding. Our so called President has been more then rude to Israel, and here you sit and write this blog and Condemn BiBi for having had enough and finally showing our POSUR in Chief the lack of respect that is truly do him! I no longer will visit this site!
BD57| 5.20.11 @ 3:13PM
John,
Why is an ally "expecting" to hear a United States President reaffirm a commitment made by his predecessor disrespectful?
Is it disrespectful to draw attention to the current occupant's obvious disinterest in honoring that commitment?
Vendrell| 5.22.11 @ 7:15PM
You obviously don't know how American government works, are you an Amerian or a foreigner? I am asking this in all seriousness. GW Bush could have said/written all the letters he wanted on this issue, unless it was a treaty or law passed by Congress, Obama isn't legally bound to follow it one bit, and Israel has no right to expect such. Heck, there wasn't even an executive order in this case and those can be revoked by the current president.
Being a life long Republican, I'm no Obama-ite, but Israel is clearly out of line here. This is not a question of left or right, nobody, and I mean nobody gets to come to the White House and make demands on the US Prsident. Anyone who disagrees with this assessment is not a true American and has a hidden agenda.
Jade| 5.22.11 @ 9:18PM
What demands? You're a piece of crap liberal moron traitor.
Vendrell| 5.22.11 @ 11:35PM
Any demand you dolt. As far as the Israel/Palestein thing, I could care less as they are both filthy people and most certainly not of my ancestral stock, does this sound like a liberal to you? The Joos and A-rabs can kill each other off and I wouldnt lose a wink of sleep over it, hows that for honesty? The US has no business supporting any foreign nation.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:03PM
I knew you didn't have anything specific, bigot. Crawl back under your rock filthy bastard.
George S| 5.20.11 @ 3:14PM
Would it show too much disrespect to vote against Obama in 2012?
jcp370| 5.20.11 @ 3:19PM
Is this guy for real? Obama as usual comes down on the side of the annihilation of Israel and somehow he deserves respect for this? This guy sounds like a fill in for Andrew Sullivan. TAS you are spiraling down the drain....
martin j smith| 5.20.11 @ 3:25PM
My final comment: John and by reference Jeff ( your buddy ? ) --you are both idiots and not worthy of being taken serious from now onward.
W| 5.20.11 @ 3:34PM
Bibi's responsibility is to protect Israel, and not Obama's feelings. Bibi should do and say what is best for Israel. I suspect Bibi is attempting to force Obama to clearly state whether he supports Israel as did Bush. It is time for Obama to clearly state his position.
TSB| 5.20.11 @ 3:44PM
Excuse me, but what is disrespectful about telling the President that he expects the U.S. to live up to its word? President Bush was as much the President of the United States as President Obama. He gave a commitment to another country, which it relied upon in, among other things, withdrawing from the Gaza strip. That put the reputation and good will of the United Staes on the line.
Now it seems that the President wants to repudiate that committment, or at least the speech could be read that way. The foreign leader of that country is entitled to know whether this country is willing to stick to the commitment its President made only 7 years ago. If the answer is No, then say so, and everyone will know how to act accordingly. (Although don't be surprised when other parties decide you are not trustworthy.)
bicentennialguy| 5.20.11 @ 3:47PM
I will embrace most anyone who stands up to this useless, know-nothing troublemaker who occupies the Oval Office. Ever since this bunch got in the White House, ALL the trash has come out of the woodwork and crawled out from under the rocks. Kudos to Netanyahu.
Bobbie| 5.20.11 @ 4:31PM
Really?! Please, please, please do not tell people you are a conservative when clearyl you are not! Disrespecting our President, really?! He disrespected Netanyahu by his making that speech yesterday! Netanyahu shouldn't make demands?! Obama is the one making demands. Obama is a PATHETIC excuse for a president! It makes things worse when people like to label themselves as "conservative" when they clearly are NOT (I am talking about you in case you aren't smart enough to understand)! UGH!!!!
phantomorphan| 5.20.11 @ 4:36PM
Obama spoke like a fool on the subject of Israeli security, so Bibi had every right to correct him. When the leader of the free world has to be lectured by an ally, that ally becomes leader of the free world -- a very sad commentary on America today.
Ira| 5.20.11 @ 4:45PM
A state 8 miles wide surronded by maniacal enemies. This would be suicidal for Israel. Shame on Obama for pandering to the Saudis and Muslims.
Jim Stagg| 5.20.11 @ 4:47PM
Respect should work both ways.
I think Israel (and Bibi) have heard enough "tough talk" from our present president. Maybe now, with only two years to wait, they have decided to give some back.
SusanB| 5.20.11 @ 5:14PM
Let me get this straight. Obama has shown nothing but disrespect for BiBi & Israel. Remember the visit where Obama walked out on BiBi to go have dinner w/ Michelle? It's OK for Obama to state he expects Israel to go back to 1967 (which leaves her completely vulnerable to the annihilation her neighbors want so badly), but it's disrespectful for BiBi to stand up to him for flushing a prior written commitment upon which the survival of his country depends? This AS writer should be working for the Daily Kos or the Huffington Post.
jp| 5.20.11 @ 5:33PM
everyone get off their high horses... Netanyahu is a true statesmen who is literally in a fight for his life and the life of israel. For the author of this story if you can call him that clearly doesnt understand the stakes that netanyahu and israel are currently...Netanyahu is trying to win the lives of israelis instead obama is trying to win an election...Also what did netanyahu say that was not true, nothing, he called out the big white elephant in the room and americans are so caught up in political correctness that we forgot how to acctually accomplish things.
annabell| 5.20.11 @ 5:58PM
Reality is what it is. Obama needed to be slapped down and who better than the PM from Israel. Obama has consistently taken the side of the Palestinians and is so out of his element. He asked for it. I loved it!!!!
NoBama| 5.20.11 @ 6:16PM
Me too. Go Bibi!!
Bert| 5.20.11 @ 6:23PM
JOhnny G are you hoping to get a gig at the Daily Koz or Huffington Post or the Comedy Channel or are you off your meds again ?
This nutter post is oddly similar to your posts celebrating the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group taking over Egypt !
Both posts seem to have an intense dislike for Israel !
By the way, Johnny G just because you call yourself as a conservative does not make it a fact !
Mimi| 5.20.11 @ 9:23PM
Obama...gets no respect, from BIBI. Why ?
I voted for many years ... more than you know, in many Presidential elections, in some my guy got in and some he didn't. But through all those years , I always had respect for our President. That is UNTIL NOW!!! This guy deserves no respect , sad to say but true. I know I am NOT alone.
Netanyahu must stand up with firmness with the likes of this President, who has shown just as much contempt for Israel as he does for the people in his own country. Yes, I SAID CONTEMPT...JOHN, Why can't you see that we have had it....We can't take it, and have had ENOUGH.
SukieTawdry| 5.20.11 @ 10:37PM
And for whom is Obama doing favors when he publicly disrespects foreign leaders, long-standing allies, Supreme Court justices, members of Congress, former presidents and their administrations, ordinary citizens and the list goes on...?
Do you think it's possible the PM was "anticipating" a reaffirmation of the 2004 commitments and not issuing an edict?
In any event, your and Jeffrey's umbrage is duly noted and duly discarded.
And, btw, the president may oppose the Palestinian effort to seek U.N. recognition for a state on the '67 borders, but he does not oppose those borders. And his press spokesman today affirmed he's talking about the pre-war borders.
Mrahen| 5.21.11 @ 12:57AM
"Ultimately, Israelis and Palestinians must address the core issues that divide them if there is to be a real peace, resolving all claims and ending the conflict between them. This means that the Israeli occupation that began in 1967 will be ended through a settlement negotiated between the parties, based on UN resolutions 242 and 338, with Israeli withdrawal to secure and recognize borders." George W.Bush, in the White House Rose Garden June 24, 2002
UN resolution 242 includes the principal of the "[w]ithdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict". This resolution occurred after the 1967 war. The basis of Bush's determination of Israel's withdraw to a secure border was UN resolution 242. Therefore, Bush identified the pre 1967 war borders as part of any negotiated settlement between the Israeli's and the Palestinians. Obama said the same thing, but was not nearly as obscure as Bush.
SukieTawdry| 5.22.11 @ 6:00PM
"As part of a final peace settlement, Israel must have secure and recognized borders, which should emerge from negotiations between the parties in accordance with UNSC Resolutions 242 and 338. In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli populations centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949, and all previous efforts to negotiate a two-state solution have reached the same conclusion. It is realistic to expect that any final status agreement will only be achieved on the basis of mutually agreed changes that reflect these realities."
George W. Bush
April 14, 2004
"Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress--
1. strongly endorses the principles articulated by President Bush in his letter dated April 14, 2004, to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon which will strengthen the security and well-being of the State of Israel; and
2. supports continuing efforts with others in the international community to build the capacity and will of Palestinian institutions to fight terrorism, dismantle terrorist organizations, and prevent the areas from which Israel has withdrawn from posing a threat to the security of Israel."
House Concurrent Resolution 460
June 22, 2004
Dan| 5.21.11 @ 1:31AM
I'm an Independent and i have to admit. I didn't like the prime ministers body language or tone. And i really don't care for the republicans who continuously travel over to Israel in private. Bashing our foreign policy.
Regardless of weither or not you respect Obama. Undercutting the presidents policy in favor of a foreigner is so out of bounds. You couldn't get find inbounds with a telescope.
This prime minister is acting like he's at home in the white house... A foreigner for gods sake. demanding more U.S.A. backing. as if he were a United States Senator.
And these jackals supporting Israel over America are completely unamerican.
None of them are getting my vote in 2012. Not one of them!
NoBama| 5.22.11 @ 12:17AM
Well, at least we don't support those who killed 3000 of us on 9/11.
vdorta| 5.21.11 @ 1:33AM
What a stupid article from a so-called conservative.
Controse| 5.21.11 @ 1:56AM
To disrespect our President we must first have a President worthy of respect. I guess Mr's Goldberg and Guardiano haven't looked up from their navels since the inauguration. Quick, tell us about the lie he hasn't told. I say lets have Netanyahu's people huddle with Obama's people to find out were Obama got that nifty birth certificate made so they can get one for there man Bibi. That way we can draft Mr. Netanyahu to run for President. We know he can win. He has already shown he can kick BO's a** for all the world to see.
Mack the Knife| 5.22.11 @ 7:52PM
You sir are no conservative! The institution of the presidency is always worthy of respect regardless of the man that occupies the office. If you don't understand that much, you are not an American patriot, and no better than ultra liberals who tried to question whether Bush was really president.
Draft Netayahu for president? What kind of garbage is that? You sound like a Israel firster masquerading as decent conservative American. Enjoy your bagels.
Jade| 5.22.11 @ 9:21PM
My loyalty is to the Constitution not the person occupying the White House. Obama treats our Constitution like toilet paper.
A real Conservative would understand that, libtard.
Mack the Knife| 5.23.11 @ 8:50AM
Nice muddling of the issue, but even a moron can see there is no Constitutional question here. Last I checked, there was no clause in the Constitution that stated "thou shall give a damn about Israel".
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:05PM
Dumbass. Last I checked there's nothing in the Constitution that says you must respect the office of the presidency--which was the point of my post. You really are stupid.
Mack the Knife| 5.23.11 @ 6:52PM
Stop lying, your loyalty is to Israel, not America nor its Constitution. Its pretty obvious you are a Trotskyite pretending to be a "conservative".
Jade| 5.24.11 @ 1:57AM
Get your nose out of Obama's ass, Nazi.
ODIrony| 5.21.11 @ 7:16AM
Mr Obama has acted recklessly in contravention of long established US policy. Mr Guardiano couldn't be more wrong in his analysis.
Bernie | 5.21.11 @ 8:15AM
So Netanyahu “expects” to hear this from the President of the United States? And if President Obama doesn’t walk back the speech, what will Netanyahu do? Will he cut off Israeli military aid to the U.S.? Will he cease to fight for the U.S. in the United Nations, and in the many international forums that treat Israel as a pariah?
I don’t like this word, “expect.” Even if there weren’t an imbalance between these two countries — Israel depends on the U.S. for its survival, while America, I imagine, would continue to exist even if Israel ceased to exist — I would find myself feeling resentful about the way Netanyahu speaks about our President. …
[Netanyahu] threw something of a hissy fit. It was not appropriate, and more to the point, it was not tactically wise… Netanyahu needs the support of President Obama in order to confront the greatest danger Israel has ever faced: the potential of a nuclear-armed Iran. And yet he seems to go out of his way to alienate the President. Why does he do this? It’s a mystery to me.
SukieTawdry| 5.22.11 @ 5:37PM
Nonsense. There was nothing the least bit "hissy" about Netanyahu. He stated Israel's case clearly, calmly and respectfully. If the president chooses to be alienated by important allies speaking honestly, well, that's his choice. And when has Obama ever demonstrated he would be of any use whatsoever in a confrontation with a nuclear-armed Iran?
WeMustResist| 5.21.11 @ 8:48AM
The Prime Minister of Israel addressed policy issues. He did not adress personal issues. He kept to the subject. He kept diplomatic protocol. POTUS did not keep protocol last time Bibi Netanyahu was in Washington. He was rude and insulting to a head of government. Any objective person would see that the Israeli PM is more disciplined and mature than Obama. It is absurd to say that Netanyahu has publicly shown disrespect of Obama because he is angry with the political opinions of Obama. As for demands - Obama demanded that Israel give up a lot. Netanyahu demanded that Obama change his mind. That is not disrespect on Netanyahus part. It is a man trying to save his country from destruction, and doing so politely.
jtfm| 5.21.11 @ 9:11AM
This is ridiculous. Didn't Obama say, in effect, what he expected from Israel, without consulting Israel first? Obama needs to respect Israel if he wants respect from Israel!
floydhowardjr| 5.21.11 @ 11:12AM
Obama has the disrespect of the whole world. Don't you read the news.
jp| 5.21.11 @ 12:30PM
Mr independtent how about all the democratic envoys that travel to cuba and do i need say other american hostile countries...so please dont throw any more hypocrisy on the wall...secondly name any other country in the middle east that is truly a free democratic country that does not persecute women, other relegions, gays, and freedom of speech...so please tell me another middle eastern nation that does what israel does ....ill be here a while waiting for your answer bc the correct answer is NONE!!!
Chet| 5.21.11 @ 1:11PM
How can you not disrespect our president when he is obviously pandering to the Arab nations that want to eradicate Isreal from the face of the earth? Obama is no friend of Isreal no matter how many times he says he is!
Kevin| 5.21.11 @ 2:24PM
Given the contmept with which Obama has treated the Prime Minister in the past, this was mild. What Barack didn't like was that someone dared to disagree with him in public. What I like is that the Prime Minister got it right!
David Hughes| 5.21.11 @ 8:29PM
I strongly disagree with this writer. Netanyahu's comments don't make me want to support Obama at all. Obama is one of the most smug and disrespectful politicians I have ever seen, and I don't blame Netanyahu for his attitude toward our President. In addition, Obama's position is not the Israeli's position, and I think this writer must beon heavy drugs for suggesting that. This piece should be trashed.
gjmerits| 5.22.11 @ 12:26AM
The author just outed himself as an Obama supporter. Nobody with any serious mental faculty could possibly draw these conclusions. To put it plainly, Israel is a sovereign state and it really is none of our business to dictate to them whey they should do in their country. The author is angry that Bibi would dare to basically stress the fact of this sovereignty and refuse to bow to the Self-Anointed One. To put it bluntly, this piece conveys a sense of...stupidity.
Caleb| 5.22.11 @ 1:11PM
Um, if Israel is a soverign state and its none of our business, why then does Israel need our money and beg for it via lobbyists? Don't get me wrong, I also oppose foreign aid to Moslem nations like Egypt and Pakistan in addition to Israel. However, Israel can't depend on American welfare and then claim their affairs are none of our business. Whores with pimps can't claim independence, it just doesn't work.
Jade| 5.22.11 @ 9:23PM
Just because we give money to Israel doesn't mean we have the right to force them into suicide.
gjmerits| 5.22.11 @ 12:27AM
David, I think the author swallowed some bong water.
Lawgeek| 5.22.11 @ 11:09AM
Crawl back under your rock John..
CanterburyTom| 5.22.11 @ 12:08PM
So is John looking for a job at the White House?
Nick Ganz| 5.22.11 @ 1:04PM
I'll take Bibi's disrespect a lot more seriously when Israel's stops cashing America's checks. Israel is a leech on the US taxapyers and so are Arab nations like Egypt. Let the Jews and Arabs fight it out for that horrid piece of desert land, as long we don't have to finance it, I could care less.
Jade| 5.22.11 @ 9:24PM
A lot of us do care, libtard.
Nick Ganz| 5.23.11 @ 12:58PM
Well cry me a river then, because Im one conservative that couldn't care less.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:07PM
And you matter why? No one gives a crap what you think, moron.
Nick Ganz| 5.24.11 @ 10:47PM
Hey Jadestein, riddle me this..should Jonathan Pollard (a) be set free, (b) stay in jail, or (c) be executed. Your answer will show what nation your primary loyalty belongs to.
NoBama| 5.30.11 @ 7:19PM
Screw you stupid. Stop hiding behind our flag, anti-Semitic bastard.
MrUniteUs| 5.22.11 @ 1:23PM
The disrespect and intentional distortion of what Presdent Obama said was uncalled for. The distortion was amplified by certain media outlets, by omitting,
"with mutually agreed [land] swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."
"the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed [land] swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."
With mutually agreed land swaps means that President does support going back to pre 1967 borders. Pre 1967 land mass perhaps, but not the same borders. Israel should determine what areas it needs for security and control of Jerusalem. The good news is that the Palestinian West bank is thriving economically. Peace is working. This is causing Palestinians in Gaza under Hamas to rethink things. Arab Muslims that oppose Israel, got to like Netanyahu hardline position. It makes it easier for them to recruit hard line Arab Muslims. It gives them a rallying point in the Arab countries emerging democracy. That will be very bad for Israel. Best thing Israel can do is negotiate peace now
Jade| 5.22.11 @ 9:25PM
Pre 1967 borders don't mean peace, they mean the destruction of Israel. DUH!!
MrUniteUs| 5.22.11 @ 1:30PM
The Palestinian Israel issue has been used by haters on both sides for years. bin Laden used it as recruiting to. Israelis use it to recruit billions of U.S. tax dollars each year. Sometimes I wonder if would be better if we were reduce foreign aid to Israel and the Palestinians until they reached a peace agreement. That would be a motivator. Besides we could use the dollars in the USA.
MrUniteUs| 5.22.11 @ 1:31PM
The Palestinian-Israel issue has been used by haters on both sides for years. bin Laden used it as recruiting to. Israelis use it to recruit billions of U.S. tax dollars each year. Sometimes I wonder if would be better if we were reduce foreign aid to Israel and the Palestinians until they reached a peace agreement. That would be a motivator. Besides we could use the extra dollars in the USA.
Augustus| 5.22.11 @ 1:42PM
I concur. While we are at it, lets stop all aid to the middle east, don't forget Israel's Arab cousins also get billions from us. Neither Egypt, Israel or Jordan have any oil, and the Saudis will gladly continue to sell it to us at $100/barrel. I really don't see any downside to stopping aid.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:20PM
Israel will cease to exist without our support, but I'm sure that's what you want anyway.
Augustus| 5.22.11 @ 1:39PM
I am a conservative as well and I completely agree with this article. I am no fan of Obama but one has to respect the OFFICE of the US President even if you despise the fan occupying it. Liberals tried the same garbage with Bush, and I called them on it as well.
As for this Israeli clown, PMs of foreign welfare states don't get to make demands on the US president, even though this president may be the worst since Hoover. I'm a conservative, and don't like Obama either, but I respect the office he holds, and Israel who nobody else in the world really likes, should know there are limits to our good graces.
Jade| 5.22.11 @ 9:26PM
Too bad you don't respect our Constitution--you know, the document Obama uses for toilet paper?
Augustus| 5.23.11 @ 12:52PM
Hey genius, please elaborate the consitustional issues here. For the record I do agree with you, Obama is horrible at respecting the constitution, but Bush wasn't all that good either (TARP?). The Constitution has nothing to do with this issue however.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:10PM
You're stoopid too. There's nothing in the Constitution that says we must respect the office of the president. I'm loyal to the Constitution, unlike the traitorous bastard in the White House.
I was no fan of clown Bush either, but he never threw Israel under the bus.
Augustus| 5.23.11 @ 6:28PM
When did I say the Constitution says respect the president? I never stated that "Jade" (porn name?). The Constitution does however give the President considerable power in making foreign policy, do you deny this fact? Whether Israel gets thrown under the bus is not my concern, America's interests always come first for me, what about for you?
Jade| 5.24.11 @ 2:06AM
Augustus? In your dreams, loser. You're obviously an anti-Semite who supports the Marxist in the WH. Israel is our only real ally in the Middle East and it's in our interests to protect them.
Obama's a failed president; thank God we only have to suffer through 17 more months of this clown.
Augustus| 5.24.11 @ 10:44PM
Yes, my name represents my Italian heritage. If I'm an anti-semite, I sure have a funny way of showing it as my finace is half jewish.
You are essentially too stupid too realize I'm a conservative who puts the US before a foreign country. You are also a traitor to America.
NoBama| 5.30.11 @ 7:20PM
You're just a bigot hiding behind our flag, Nazi.
gjmerits| 5.23.11 @ 12:21PM
No sir, I do not have to respect the POTUS - this is a free country still and nobody - including you - can dictate to me whom I must respect, and I certainly will NOT respect a man who spits on the very founding principles which make this country great. You may want a dictator that we MUST respect. I, for one, will fight like hell to ensure that never ever happens.
Augustus| 5.23.11 @ 12:48PM
America is a nation of laws, not men. I could give a damn Obama. I never stated you should respect the man, but you should (if you are a patriotic American) respect the office and instutition that is POTUS. If you support a foreigner making a mockery of the POTUS position, you are no patriot, and most certainly not a conservative.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:15PM
You're an idiot. Obama flouts the Constitution at every turn. He is a threat to the Constitution and to the security of the United States.
We are attacking him not his office. You're just a dumbass liberal pretending to care about "the office of the president" when you're really defending the jackass in the position. Screw you.
There's nothing unpatriotic about dissent, libtard. Nice try though.
Augustus| 5.23.11 @ 6:33PM
So somebody who disagrees with you on one issue is automatically a "libtard"? Sorry Shlohmo, that logic doesn't fly with me, and it didn't with Ronald Reagan.
Jade| 5.24.11 @ 2:15AM
Predictable libtard--I destroyed your argument so you try to hide behind the great RR for cover.
Weak, real weak.
Dissent is patriotic.
TL| 5.24.11 @ 5:38PM
You haven't destroyed ANYONE's arguement Jade. You're just an angry little jew, spouting whatever comes into your little head. Read ALL of your posts, not one them stated any facts, or even basic logic. You are insane, period. If you love Israel, give them YOUR money. Give them YOUR life. The president speaks for my generation (late 20's thru early 40's) and if you old folks don't like it, kick off early. Cut off all aid until there is a peace treaty. Don't care if Israel is democratic, they act as bad as Hamas. Oh, I'll bet anyone here that the Pres wins in a landslide...any takers?
NoBama| 5.30.11 @ 7:21PM
I'm not a Jew, dumbass. I'm a Christian who knows a Nazi when she sees one. Crawl back under your slimy rock, bastard.
Obama is going to get his ass kicked in 2012.
gjmerits| 5.23.11 @ 12:23PM
"and Israel who nobody else in the world really likes, should know there are limits to our good graces." Outed buddy, your a troll and not a conservative. This translates to a statement that our good graces are limited because there is a great deal of anti-semitism in the world. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
Augustus| 5.23.11 @ 12:56PM
Huh? What does anti-semitism have to do with anything? Read my previous post, I believe we should cut off both Israel and the Arabs, does that mean I an anti-Islam too now? It seems so by your logic.
The fact is, Israel isn't all that well liked in the world, and US taxpayer supports them, so it would be in their interest to listen to us. The unpopular kid in school that nobody likes probably shouldn't stab his only friend in the back.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:16PM
You leftist anti-Semitic bigots are easy to spot. Crawl back under your rock, scum troll.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:19PM
Obama stabbed Israel in the back, moron. That's what started all of this mess. Please try to keep up.
TL| 5.24.11 @ 5:39PM
Jade, you are a traitor to your country.
NoBama| 5.30.11 @ 7:22PM
Screw you asshole.
James| 5.23.11 @ 2:16AM
I believe that the overall point he is making is about the precedent this begins, just as Democrats like myself must also realize the way disrespect for President Bush at home and abroad helped to create the new normal in America where people feel absolutely okay with siding with a foreign head of state over our own.
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:18PM
You leftists treated GWB like crap, and some of it was deserved. Too bad he never tried to defend himself. That's why I detest RINOs like W.
moderateGuy| 5.23.11 @ 1:48PM
...but then, of course, Sputnik is only a pretend "president", and a pretend "American"
Jade| 5.23.11 @ 6:18PM
Yup.
neilsthepoet| 5.24.11 @ 10:09AM
On O Blah Blah .... Stabbing Israel In The Back
Be it by incompetence
Or direct willful deed
This is a man of malevolence
This is one born of demon seed
Neils
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Lecorsaire| 5.25.11 @ 9:53AM
Netanyahu's disrespect in intolerable. Obama only presented a logical and clear starting point for a solution to this situation. Peace can never be had if substantial land is not returned. Israel is not even supposed to be there in the first place and don't give me some hocus pocus story about how the man in the sky says this land belongs to Israel through a divine right. If you want to go by that angle, jews sold out Jesus Christ and for that alone deserve no sympathy. I am not religious but I hate when people use religion as an excuse to obtain power like monarchs had done up until a couple hundred years ago. We can not keep letting Israel make a mess in the ME and encourage more Arab resentment towered the US. We are the ones who will pay if peace is not achieved. I don't want Israel to be destroyed. There are many good people there and I have had many Jewish girlfriends and I can't begin to say how highly I thought of their hardworking families. The reality is the Palestinians deserve to have a state not 2 miles of rubbish that Israel doesn't care about anyway. You can't opress a people for 60 years and kick them out of their land and call them terrorists for trying to get it back. US media unfortunately only shows the issue from israels side. I definitely think it would be positive for both parties to use obama's suggestion. Anything less and Israel is NOT serious about peace. You can't keep everything, demilitarize them, and keep building more settlements on purpose and expect them to be overjoyed at israels "painful sacrifices for peace." Learn to live together with real EQUALITY and end this bloodshed once and for all.
NoBama| 5.30.11 @ 7:23PM
Heil Hitler! Look at all the nasty Nazi slime crawling out from their filthy sewers.
Cherie | 9.5.11 @ 8:53AM
Israeli PM was not disrespectful to President Obama. He was merely stating facts and their right to existence.
jimmy akers| 10.18.11 @ 1:46PM
you are a joke and a discrace to this country along with that clown you call your president