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The Spectacle Blog
Avik Roy has more about liberal efforts to pre-emptively demagogue the 2012 GOP budget proposal. Roy notes that the “preaction from many progressives appears to be reactionary nihilism,” and concludes:
One, please let’s dispose of the “Republicans are going to deny essential health care to the elderly” trope. Two, if you really believe Rep. Ryan’s plan is so terrible, put up your own plan, which achieves the same reduction in the deficit, using whatever mechanism you favor (rationing, tax increases, or both). Then, we can have an honest debate. Until then, only one side is being serious.
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jharp| 4.4.11 @ 6:52PM
"One, please let's dispose of the "Republicans are going to deny essential health care to the elderly" trope."
Amazing. Shall we also dispose of the "ObamaCare is going to kill Grandma" at the same time.
"Two, if you really believe Rep. Ryan's plan is so terrible, put up your own plan"
Really? Like we've been asking the critics of ObamaCare for the past 2 years?
"which achieves the same reduction in the deficit"
Really? According to whom? The non partisan Congressional Budget Office that concluded ObamaCare would reduce the deficit? I had no idea the CBO even studied it.
"Then, we can have an honest debate. Until then, only one side is being serious."
You have got to be kidding. An honest debate? With the teabaggers?
God you people are stupid.
Ryan| 4.5.11 @ 9:33AM
Critics HAVE been putting up our own plan.
Smaller, incremental changes - tort reform, portability, removing state lines, HSA expansion.
Nothing "omnibus," nothing that affected health care for the majority of Americans, nothing that tried to fix what wasn't broken.
Truth to Power| 4.4.11 @ 7:09PM
Jharp, get over it. You are unsustainable and your whole bag of tricks will not work anymore. The country realizes we are faced with the choice, do we want to end up like the progressive paradise of Detroit? No thanks.
Regardless of issue, you always bring up your sexual preference. We don't care.
jharp| 4.4.11 @ 7:14PM
"Jharp, get over it."
Get over what exactly? Jackass.
Republican lies and deception that have these poor dumbass teabaggers voting themselves into poverty along with the rest of the middle class?
I don't think so.
Truth to Power| 4.4.11 @ 9:03PM
Detroit was run into the ground by naive fools like yourself. Get over it. You are irrelevant. You had your chance and you ran up a big debt of payoffs to Democrat entities like GE, GM and every stupid alternative energy company. The party is over. Go find another rich country for your parasitical antics. We have you figured out here.
Bruce Berger| 4.4.11 @ 9:21PM
Jharp is like the Koran-burning guy in Florida. He enjoys provocation for its own sake without adding any intelligent arguments to the debate. I have decided to no longer reply to him or refer to him. This is my last such post. I suggest that everyone else ignore him as well. Like Glenn Close in "Fatal Attraction" it will drive him crazy to be ignored.
LiveFreeOrDie| 4.5.11 @ 12:39AM
Feel free to ask the editor to remove him from the comments section permanently. editor@spectator.org
big bob| 4.4.11 @ 11:35PM
I find it amazing that virtually ever forum I read has a "jharp": a liberal coolaide drinker who never processes the issues, but is full of name calling and ad hominem attacks. It remarkably consistent and unfortunately, they all have at least 1 vote somewhere. I propose that in order to vote, you actually have to be able to demonstrate you understand the issues. Calling the opposition "jackasses" would not suffice in this case. Anyone down for this???