JERUSALEM - The Israeli government said Sunday that it had
approved the construction of hundreds of new homes in West Bank
settlements after a couple and three of their children were stabbed
to death in their home in a Jewish settlement Friday night...
In a response to the slayings, the office of Prime Minister
Binyamin Netanyahu said a group of senior ministers had approved
"measured construction" of up to 500 housing units in several large
Israeli
settlements in the West Bank: Maa'leh Adumim, Ariel, the Etzion
settlement bloc and Kiryat Sefer...
Mark Regev, a spokesman for Netanyahu, said the decision to
build had been taken with "full transparency with the Americans,"
suggesting that Washington had been notified. Regev emphasized that
the new construction would be in large settlements that he said
were expected to remain part of Israel in any future peace accord
and that the Israeli government saw "no contradiction" between the
plan and an eventual agreement on a Palestinian state.
The Netanyahu government is said to have taken an interest in
this
report by a team of researchers led by David Makovsky of the
Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and it shows. Makovsky
has put forth a series of proposals for land-swaps that would cede
Israeli territory to a future Palestinian state in exchange for
territory where 70-80% of Israeli settlers in the West Bank live.
In Makovsky's formulation, these are "bloc settlements," while the
settlements that would have to be dismantled to create contiguous
borders for a Palestinian state are "non-bloc" settlements.
In the wake of a
horrific murder of a couple and three small children in a
non-bloc settlement, the Israelis could hardly be blamed for
reflexively expanding such outposts. Instead, all of the proposed
construction is in the bloc settlements. Even now, the Israelis are
avoiding acts that would be counterproductive to a peace deal that
seems as remote as it ever has.
So does the Obama Administration's State Department acknowledge
the goodwill that Israel is showing? Of course not:
In Washington, the State Department
said it was "deeply concerned" by the continuing Israeli actions on
West Bank settlements. Mark Toner, the department spokesman, called
the continued Israeli settlements "illegitimate" and said they "run
counter to efforts to resume direct negotiations" between Israelis
and Palestinians.
WINEP's Robert Satloff points
out that "there has been less peace diplomacy between Arabs and
Israelis in the current administration than during any presidency
since Lyndon Johnson." Satloff argues that a lot of this is the
Obama administration's fault -- but it doesn't ever seem to occur
to administration officials that it could be anyone's fault but
Israel's.
... but it doesn't ever seem to occur to administration
officials that it could be it's fault ...
This is the perfect administration for the generation that is
primarily responsible for its election successes. It takes no
responsibility at all for its actions. Better than that? Inaction
and diddling is the first response to any and all crises. Oh. And a
tee time.
Bigmo| 3.15.11 @ 7:43AM
Neocns again.
Ron Paul for President
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 10:05AM
Yes, he'll isolate the Israelis until they use nukes. Genius
idea.
Sean| 3.15.11 @ 2:54PM
Aren't you always commenting on nuking other countries?
Sam| 3.15.11 @ 3:01PM
Oh, shut up.
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:46PM
Yes, Sean, but those are nukes UNDER our control. In addition, I
prefer fuel air bombs, if possible.Do you want to force a country,
founded in the wake of a genocidal mass "ethnic cleansing," into a
situation where it feels that it MUST use nukes to defend itself?
Do you feel that the Israelis ARE or ARE NOT, paranoid enough?
Another person who doesn't know the meaning of the term
neoconservative. Except, Bigmo also doesn't know how to spell.
Northwoods| 3.15.11 @ 7:47AM
Who is the writer? Israel can't be blamed for expanding
settlements after these "horrific murders", except if the murderers
weren't Palestinian. Innocent until proven guilty unless you want
to take advantage of the murders, like Israel has done. Their is
evidence that the murders were done by foreign workers in the
settlement that the Fogels refused to pay. Israel is probably
hunting for a retarded Palestinian that they can torture into
admitting the crime and the perps will be hustled out of the
country.
Dc| 3.15.11 @ 9:01AM
Tough guy/bitch you are, Northwoods, standing up for the rights
of animals who decapitate toddlers for sport, and then are
celebrated as heroes by the Arab street-pigs. If the baby killers
were not "Palestinian" (and as you know, there is no such
thing--they're all sandsucking Arabs rejected by their own
countries), then why would there be such great celebrations in
Gaza, etc.? Maybe these baby-killer cheerleaders know something you
don't?
Regardless, I look forward to your justification of the
murders.
I'm not Jewish and don't particularly care for Israelis as such, by
the way, nor am I a "neocon," whatever that means.
What I understand is the nature of the enemies of Western
civilization; that they are vermin that frankly, Israel and America
have every right to exterminate, unless and until enough of them
stand up and say, stop, we'll excise our own cancers so you don't
kill the rest of us. Let's see how many of their children we can
incinerate before we get to that point. It's our kids or theirs--I
vote theirs first.
Oh, you think most Muslims in the U.S. aren't quietly celebrating
this baby murder in Israel? You think they wouldn't exult in doing
the same to most American families? Get off the peace-crack pipe.
The "religion of peace" is coming for you and your families,
whether you like it or not. And they won't be merciful. So you
ought to be prepared for war, or you'll end up like the Israeli
toddler, decapitated with a dull knife that was just used to gut
her parents. Your choice, jackass.
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 10:04AM
Dc, if you don't care for me or for the Israelis, that's fine by
me---you think clearly and well. G-d Bless.
Dc| 3.15.11 @ 11:39AM
Occam, it's pretty simple: like it or not, Judeo-Christian
culture is the foundation of Western civilization, with which the
"Palestinians" and the Arab filth and/or Islamofascists are
inexorably at war. As has been confirmed by folks I know who have
been around the world in close contact with enemies of this
once-great nation, Islam as currently practiced by the overwhelming
majority of its adherents is the only major culture/religion on
earth that does not value its women or children, that can't, won't,
or doesn't know how to create a life better for its children, and
that can't tolerate even a semblance of another set of beliefs in
its midst without wanting to disembowel it (like wolves do to their
prey, not coincidentally). With apologies for the awful sentence
structure above, we (Western culture and civilization) are in a
mortal battle with these dirty Arab/Islamic parasites. The sooner
we get on with it in a serious way, the better. In the meantime
let's all be wise and wary of the burrowing insects in our own
country, who worship the "martyrs" who behead toddlers. So it
doesn't matter what I think of Israel or Jews, the reality is,
we're in this together because we're all marked for death by a
relentless, amoral, barbaric, and deeply disgusting enemy. We'd
best put aside whatever differences we might have and first,
survive, then, conquer and eliminate the threat--however bloody,
however long it might be or take. Like I said, it's our kids or
theirs.
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:43PM
No, I totally agree. Just remember, not all Jews are Liberals. I
was in YAF in 1980 through '84.
Some of us, maybe, you'll get to like. Always more fun to fight
with your friends. Read Avigdor Khalani's stuff and I think you'll
see a VERY likeable guy.
David V| 3.15.11 @ 3:21PM
Avigdor Kahalani
The Heights of Courage - A Tank Leader's War on the Golan
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:47PM
Dear David,
Thank you for the correction. The book is on my Kindle; I was
just lazy. ;)
NoLib| 3.15.11 @ 3:28PM
All I care about is who will pass the Foxhole Test.
Everything else is just details.
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:49PM
Indeed. But, NoLib, this Jew's happy to cover your back, PLUS,
my cousin runs a great Chicago Pizzeria.
NoLib| 3.18.11 @ 7:54PM
Ditto any damn time, O's T!
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:48PM
Under this guy, yes, you are very right, Sam.
JmsA| 3.15.11 @ 9:22AM
You're sick, northwoods. Get some help.
Conservative Bob| 3.15.11 @ 9:49AM
Evidence suggests.... put up or shut up...
I have been following this story since it happened and have seen
not a word anywhere to remotely support what you suggest.
I did read about the celebration...
Please tell me what do you call an animal that hacks up an
infant? What kind of people celebrates such an action?
What kind of individual would attempt to defend the murder of an
infant?
What in a society that celebrates and justifies the intentional
murder of a baby is worth preserving or supporting in anyway?
If this is the mindset of the Palestinians how can anyone
seriously support giving them a state from which to perpetrate
further such acts of inhumanity?
ShalomMetsJets| 3.15.11 @ 1:14PM
Arabs murder a Jewish family in Eretz Yisrael for the crime of
living in Eretz Yisrael. Israel responds by announcing minimal
building in an existing community that everyone apparently agrees
is not up for negotiation, and the State Dept criticizes who?
Israel should announce that for every Jew murdered by Arab
terrorists, an additional 1000 homes will be built for Jews in all
areas of Eretz Yisrael . Announce to the World that Eretz Yisrael
is not Czarist Russia and that there is no Pale of Settlement
beyond which Jews cannot live. Also, the Israeli Government, not
just groups like Palistinian Media Watch, should broadcast the lies
and incitement appearing in the Arab media on a daily basis, so our
so-called friends in the West can see what we are facing.
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:45PM
The State Department is composed of Traitors. Always has been,
always will be. Keith Laumer was Right.
beebop| 3.15.11 @ 5:46AM
... but it doesn't ever seem to occur to administration officials that it could be it's fault ...
This is the perfect administration for the generation that is primarily responsible for its election successes. It takes no responsibility at all for its actions. Better than that? Inaction and diddling is the first response to any and all crises. Oh. And a tee time.
Bigmo| 3.15.11 @ 7:43AM
Neocns again.
Ron Paul for President
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 10:05AM
Yes, he'll isolate the Israelis until they use nukes. Genius idea.
Sean| 3.15.11 @ 2:54PM
Aren't you always commenting on nuking other countries?
Sam| 3.15.11 @ 3:01PM
Oh, shut up.
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:46PM
Yes, Sean, but those are nukes UNDER our control. In addition, I prefer fuel air bombs, if possible.Do you want to force a country, founded in the wake of a genocidal mass "ethnic cleansing," into a situation where it feels that it MUST use nukes to defend itself? Do you feel that the Israelis ARE or ARE NOT, paranoid enough?
Ron Lewenberg| 3.15.11 @ 9:35PM
Another person who doesn't know the meaning of the term neoconservative. Except, Bigmo also doesn't know how to spell.
Northwoods| 3.15.11 @ 7:47AM
Who is the writer? Israel can't be blamed for expanding settlements after these "horrific murders", except if the murderers weren't Palestinian. Innocent until proven guilty unless you want to take advantage of the murders, like Israel has done. Their is evidence that the murders were done by foreign workers in the settlement that the Fogels refused to pay. Israel is probably hunting for a retarded Palestinian that they can torture into admitting the crime and the perps will be hustled out of the country.
Dc| 3.15.11 @ 9:01AM
Tough guy/bitch you are, Northwoods, standing up for the rights of animals who decapitate toddlers for sport, and then are celebrated as heroes by the Arab street-pigs. If the baby killers were not "Palestinian" (and as you know, there is no such thing--they're all sandsucking Arabs rejected by their own countries), then why would there be such great celebrations in Gaza, etc.? Maybe these baby-killer cheerleaders know something you don't?
Regardless, I look forward to your justification of the murders.
I'm not Jewish and don't particularly care for Israelis as such, by the way, nor am I a "neocon," whatever that means.
What I understand is the nature of the enemies of Western civilization; that they are vermin that frankly, Israel and America have every right to exterminate, unless and until enough of them stand up and say, stop, we'll excise our own cancers so you don't kill the rest of us. Let's see how many of their children we can incinerate before we get to that point. It's our kids or theirs--I vote theirs first.
Oh, you think most Muslims in the U.S. aren't quietly celebrating this baby murder in Israel? You think they wouldn't exult in doing the same to most American families? Get off the peace-crack pipe. The "religion of peace" is coming for you and your families, whether you like it or not. And they won't be merciful. So you ought to be prepared for war, or you'll end up like the Israeli toddler, decapitated with a dull knife that was just used to gut her parents. Your choice, jackass.
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 10:04AM
Dc, if you don't care for me or for the Israelis, that's fine by me---you think clearly and well. G-d Bless.
Dc| 3.15.11 @ 11:39AM
Occam, it's pretty simple: like it or not, Judeo-Christian culture is the foundation of Western civilization, with which the "Palestinians" and the Arab filth and/or Islamofascists are inexorably at war. As has been confirmed by folks I know who have been around the world in close contact with enemies of this once-great nation, Islam as currently practiced by the overwhelming majority of its adherents is the only major culture/religion on earth that does not value its women or children, that can't, won't, or doesn't know how to create a life better for its children, and that can't tolerate even a semblance of another set of beliefs in its midst without wanting to disembowel it (like wolves do to their prey, not coincidentally). With apologies for the awful sentence structure above, we (Western culture and civilization) are in a mortal battle with these dirty Arab/Islamic parasites. The sooner we get on with it in a serious way, the better. In the meantime let's all be wise and wary of the burrowing insects in our own country, who worship the "martyrs" who behead toddlers. So it doesn't matter what I think of Israel or Jews, the reality is, we're in this together because we're all marked for death by a relentless, amoral, barbaric, and deeply disgusting enemy. We'd best put aside whatever differences we might have and first, survive, then, conquer and eliminate the threat--however bloody, however long it might be or take. Like I said, it's our kids or theirs.
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:43PM
No, I totally agree. Just remember, not all Jews are Liberals. I was in YAF in 1980 through '84.
Some of us, maybe, you'll get to like. Always more fun to fight with your friends. Read Avigdor Khalani's stuff and I think you'll see a VERY likeable guy.
David V| 3.15.11 @ 3:21PM
Avigdor Kahalani
The Heights of Courage - A Tank Leader's War on the Golan
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:47PM
Dear David,
Thank you for the correction. The book is on my Kindle; I was just lazy. ;)
NoLib| 3.15.11 @ 3:28PM
All I care about is who will pass the Foxhole Test.
Everything else is just details.
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:49PM
Indeed. But, NoLib, this Jew's happy to cover your back, PLUS, my cousin runs a great Chicago Pizzeria.
NoLib| 3.18.11 @ 7:54PM
Ditto any damn time, O's T!
Occam's Tool| 3.17.11 @ 7:48PM
Under this guy, yes, you are very right, Sam.
JmsA| 3.15.11 @ 9:22AM
You're sick, northwoods. Get some help.
Conservative Bob| 3.15.11 @ 9:49AM
Evidence suggests.... put up or shut up...
I have been following this story since it happened and have seen not a word anywhere to remotely support what you suggest.
I did read about the celebration...
Please tell me what do you call an animal that hacks up an infant? What kind of people celebrates such an action?
What kind of individual would attempt to defend the murder of an infant?
What in a society that celebrates and justifies the intentional murder of a baby is worth preserving or supporting in anyway?
If this is the mindset of the Palestinians how can anyone seriously support giving them a state from which to perpetrate further such acts of inhumanity?
ShalomMetsJets| 3.15.11 @ 1:14PM
Arabs murder a Jewish family in Eretz Yisrael for the crime of living in Eretz Yisrael. Israel responds by announcing minimal building in an existing community that everyone apparently agrees is not up for negotiation, and the State Dept criticizes who?
Israel should announce that for every Jew murdered by Arab terrorists, an additional 1000 homes will be built for Jews in all areas of Eretz Yisrael . Announce to the World that Eretz Yisrael is not Czarist Russia and that there is no Pale of Settlement beyond which Jews cannot live. Also, the Israeli Government, not just groups like Palistinian Media Watch, should broadcast the lies and incitement appearing in the Arab media on a daily basis, so our so-called friends in the West can see what we are facing.
Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:45PM
The State Department is composed of Traitors. Always has been, always will be. Keith Laumer was Right.
Sam| 3.15.11 @ 3:04PM
So is the Executive branch.