Madison, Wisconsin -- As I noted
yesterday, the protestors here are obsessed with the Koch
brothers. (Obsessed enough that most of them even know how to
pronounce their name, which sounds like "coke," not like the more
phonetically intuitive pronunciation favored by former New York
Mayor Ed Koch.) Yesterday afternoon a bunch of them migrated from
the capitol to the office building where the lobbying firm Koch
Companies Public Sector, LLC has an office.
As I said yesterday, it's been reported that this office just
opened -- the Capitol Times
sources that to "an unidentified tenant" of the building -- but
it's worth noting that
disclosure documents indicate that a Koch lobbyist had an
office on the eighth floor of the building in 2009; the newer
office on the seventh floor probably reflects that the firm has
expanded to
seven lobbyists from the
five they had in 2009, hence larger office space (I left a
message to confirm this but they may be ignoring calls from the
media these days).
Koch Industries employs about 3000 people in Wisconsin; their
interest in influencing legislation and regulation there is nothing
new. The conspiracy theory among the protestors is that Governor
Walker's budget includes provisions to sell state-owned power
plants to private companies on a no-bid basis, and these power
plants must be going to the Kochs. But Koch Industries has said
they "have no interest in purchasing any of the state owned power
plants in Wisconsin and any allegations to the contrary are
completely false."
Robert Costa
talked to Koch executive Richard Fink yesterday; "With the Left
trying to intimidate the Koch brothers to back off of their support
for freedom and signaling to others that this is what happens if
you oppose the administration and its allies, we have no choice but
to continue to fight," he said.
More pictures after the jump.
Classy!
And while it would be unfair to hold this against the protestors
as a group, I'll just note that, as with most left-wing protests,
one of these guys showed up:
The conspiracy sign at the bottom foreground is a Communist,
Workers World-influenced sort written sloppily to make it seem more
folksy. In big cities they use stencil, in college bubble towns
stencil would appear too squaresville.
Clint| 2.25.11 @ 4:58PM
More Unemployed Theater Arts Majors looking for an audience.
Curly| 2.25.11 @ 6:04PM
Too bad these clowns aren't more interested in the nefarious
actions of George Soros.
Curly| 2.25.11 @ 6:06PM
The Left is full of dirtbags and slime balls--what's new?
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 7:03PM
I have always wondered why the Liberals assume there is a
mastermind behind the Conservatives.
I for one, had never heard of the Koch brothers.
For the Liberals to assume the Koch brothers are a threat then
there must be a Liberal mastermind who is threatened by them.
Unfortunately there is a surplus of Liberal masterminds and would
be masterminds.
Pelosi,Soros,Stern and the list goes on and on.
That is why the Liberals still can not believe the TEA Parties
were wide-based and decentralized.
After all most of their friends are not.
Why else would they come up with the term "AstroTurf".
Dixie Pixie
Member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Dilettante, Third Class with Oak-Leaf Clusters.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 8:38PM
David Axelrod is one of the architects who pioneered the use of
" pseudo-front groups known as astroturfing." Cynical, hypocritical
Leftists don't know or understand true grass-roots activism.
They're phonies.
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 10:08PM
Greetings Patriot
If I have my history correct, "pseudo-front groups" date back to
the Early Roman Republic.
Then there was no distinction between the Public and Private
Sectors as they were all the same thing.
During that era, political power flowed to whoever could put the
most men into the streets.
As a result "Rent a Mobs" was a common usage in politics.
Maybe someone with a better grasp of Early Roman History can
explain it better than I can.
For the record, I was referring to Nancy Pelosi's comment
deriding the TEA Parties as AstroTurf.
I was using the term to nail down my comment and to spur further
thought.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 11:15PM
"Rent a mob" nails it. The democrats are pros at it. What chaps
me is when they accuse us of their shady tactics.
"Projection is a pillar of Leftist thought."
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 11:36PM
Greetings Patriot
And that thought would bring us back to the Meme of the
Thread.
Who are the masterminds of the public sector riots and why are they
using insults as a method of political discourse and disorder?
No one on the conservative side answers to the Koch
Brothers.
Certainly not the Wisconsin legislature or governor.
So who does the "protesters" answer to?
But I was thinking of someone with a corporeal existence.
What is Andy Stern doing this days.
Why is he continuing to meet with the White House daily when he is
no longer a leader of the public sector unions.
AKA...SEIU....?
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 4:47PM
Ken's right--they're just a bunch of Commies (no apologies
here), nothing new under the sun. Stern's a skinny little weasel,
too.
Osamas Pajamas| 2.25.11 @ 11:37PM
The artsy-fartsy crowd have a major case of twisted
knickers.
Mike | 2.25.11 @ 11:37PM
John,
It's not a theory. In the 144 page bill is the provision to sell
state owned power plants.
This effort to obfuscate is really amateurish, even by TAS
standards.
Mike | 2.25.11 @ 11:42PM
P.S. Loved the photos. Nice way to divert the attention of the
loyalists from the core issue. Not that I think they would have
gotten the import of the substance of the issue any way.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 11:54PM
Please educate us on " ..the import of the substance of the
issue" of which you speak, dear Yoda. You know you want to,
insufferable tool.
Mike | 2.26.11 @ 12:22AM
Let us try it from the other direction, Patriot. I know you are
dying to show us the following:
1. Why the collective bargaining rights of unions are in a budget
bill when the unions agreed to concessions.
2. Why the sale of public power plants without legislative
oversight and in a no bid process is in the bill.
3. Why the Koch brothers, who financed Walkers' campaign, found it
necessary to hastily issue statements about the power plants when
the sale provision came to light.
4. Why Walker's conversation with the prank caller shows that
Walker has always been ethical.
5. And why none of the signs are plants ( you know, like the
outrageous ones at the TEA parties were).
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 5:08PM
You're the one making claims without proof; you have to put up
or shut up, troll.
tj| 2.27.11 @ 10:58AM
Mike get with the program.. you people are going down and
fast.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 11:58PM
What's that got to do with the Koch Brothers?
You'd be doing backflips if George Soros bought those power plants,
hypocrite.
Mike | 2.26.11 @ 12:42AM
Patriot,
You have answered none of my questions.
Hint: George Soros is not a part of the answer to any of my
questions.
Care to try again?
Dixie Pixie| 2.26.11 @ 1:21AM
OK...Mike....I will bite.
May the Moderator forgive me for feeding a Troll.
What part of the categorical denial did you not understand in
the above Article.
The Koch Brothers deny any intent to buy any power plant.
So you must believe everyone is lying about everything.
Thus you are complaining about Wisconsin public authority giving up
control of a private sector production facility in defiance of
Socialistic / Marxist Theology.
Do I have the intent of your argument correctly?
Mike | 2.26.11 @ 8:43AM
Pixie,
Why was their ever a need for a categorical denial?
Dixie Pixie| 2.26.11 @ 1:29PM
Mike .... Because of people like you who can not accept the
existence of any idea outside of their personal beliefs.
Kitty| 2.28.11 @ 8:36AM
Thank you!
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 5:09PM
Put up or shut up, Mike.
Clint| 2.26.11 @ 10:07AM
Because The Mainstream Media Agendists Pimp The Liberal
Socialist Agenda.
Parrot in the house| 2.26.11 @ 4:35PM
Love these NAZI parrots. Just wish they would recycle the older
talking points. These are stale as Gingrich's first wife.
Clint| 2.26.11 @ 8:16PM
Angry American Taxpayers Far Outnumber Big Government Union
Parasite Leeches.
"A new Rasmussen Reports poll showed 48 percent of likely voters
agree with Walker.
According to the poll released Monday, 38 percent sided with the
public employees. The survey of 1,000 likely voters was taken Feb.
18-19 and had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
A national Clarus Poll released last week also found that 64
percent of voters think government workers should not have union
representation. Just 29 percent said the opposite, in a survey of
1,001 registered voters taken Feb. 4-8.
And a Pew Research Center survey taken Feb. 2-7 found approval
ratings for unions remain at historically low levels. The poll of
1,385 adults showed just 45 percent of people surveyed gave unions
positive marks. The approval rating was comparable when people were
asked how they feel about corporations. "
Hymie Weiss| 2.26.11 @ 10:37AM
Who cares about snot nosed Jewish scum, who never worked a day
in their Pork laden days?
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 5:10PM
Who let Charlie Sheen in here?
Hymie Weiss| 2.26.11 @ 10:37AM
Who cares about snot nosed Jewish scum, who never worked a day
in their Pork laden days?
Oldefarte| 2.27.11 @ 2:43PM
These protest-artists obviously WOULD BE DANGEROUS IF THEY HAD A
BRAIN [which of course, from their sign-postings, they DO
NOT]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 2.27.11 @ 2:44PM
Geez, and these people ARE TEACHING AMERICA'S SCHOOL CHILDREN.
No wonder the educational test scores are so low!!!!!!!
Ellis Wyatt| 2.25.11 @ 4:49PM
Is that last picture Alex Jones looking for Charlie Sheen?
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 10:22PM
Just a quick question Ellis.
Were you referring to the Police or the Wookiee.
On a completely unrelated matter::::
http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesom.....ookieleaks
Alan Brooks| 2.26.11 @ 9:22PM
The conspiracy sign at the bottom foreground is a Communist, Workers World-influenced sort written sloppily to make it seem more folksy. In big cities they use stencil, in college bubble towns stencil would appear too squaresville.
Clint| 2.25.11 @ 4:58PM
More Unemployed Theater Arts Majors looking for an audience.
Curly| 2.25.11 @ 6:04PM
Too bad these clowns aren't more interested in the nefarious actions of George Soros.
Curly| 2.25.11 @ 6:06PM
The Left is full of dirtbags and slime balls--what's new?
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 7:03PM
I have always wondered why the Liberals assume there is a mastermind behind the Conservatives.
I for one, had never heard of the Koch brothers.
For the Liberals to assume the Koch brothers are a threat then there must be a Liberal mastermind who is threatened by them.
Unfortunately there is a surplus of Liberal masterminds and would be masterminds.
Pelosi,Soros,Stern and the list goes on and on.
That is why the Liberals still can not believe the TEA Parties were wide-based and decentralized.
After all most of their friends are not.
Why else would they come up with the term "AstroTurf".
Dixie Pixie
Member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
Dilettante, Third Class with Oak-Leaf Clusters.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 8:38PM
David Axelrod is one of the architects who pioneered the use of " pseudo-front groups known as astroturfing." Cynical, hypocritical Leftists don't know or understand true grass-roots activism. They're phonies.
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 10:08PM
Greetings Patriot
If I have my history correct, "pseudo-front groups" date back to the Early Roman Republic.
Then there was no distinction between the Public and Private Sectors as they were all the same thing.
During that era, political power flowed to whoever could put the most men into the streets.
As a result "Rent a Mobs" was a common usage in politics.
Maybe someone with a better grasp of Early Roman History can explain it better than I can.
For the record, I was referring to Nancy Pelosi's comment deriding the TEA Parties as AstroTurf.
I was using the term to nail down my comment and to spur further thought.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 11:15PM
"Rent a mob" nails it. The democrats are pros at it. What chaps me is when they accuse us of their shady tactics.
"Projection is a pillar of Leftist thought."
Dixie Pixie| 2.25.11 @ 11:36PM
Greetings Patriot
And that thought would bring us back to the Meme of the Thread.
Who are the masterminds of the public sector riots and why are they using insults as a method of political discourse and disorder?
No one on the conservative side answers to the Koch Brothers.
Certainly not the Wisconsin legislature or governor.
So who does the "protesters" answer to?
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 12:03AM
Marx.
Dixie Pixie| 2.26.11 @ 1:04AM
Greetings Patriot
!!!!Great answer!!!!
Neatly done too.
But I was thinking of someone with a corporeal existence.
What is Andy Stern doing this days.
Why is he continuing to meet with the White House daily when he is no longer a leader of the public sector unions.
AKA...SEIU....?
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 4:47PM
Ken's right--they're just a bunch of Commies (no apologies here), nothing new under the sun. Stern's a skinny little weasel, too.
Osamas Pajamas| 2.25.11 @ 11:37PM
The artsy-fartsy crowd have a major case of twisted knickers.
Mike | 2.25.11 @ 11:37PM
John,
It's not a theory. In the 144 page bill is the provision to sell state owned power plants.
This effort to obfuscate is really amateurish, even by TAS standards.
Mike | 2.25.11 @ 11:42PM
P.S. Loved the photos. Nice way to divert the attention of the loyalists from the core issue. Not that I think they would have gotten the import of the substance of the issue any way.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 11:54PM
Please educate us on " ..the import of the substance of the issue" of which you speak, dear Yoda. You know you want to, insufferable tool.
Mike | 2.26.11 @ 12:22AM
Let us try it from the other direction, Patriot. I know you are dying to show us the following:
1. Why the collective bargaining rights of unions are in a budget bill when the unions agreed to concessions.
2. Why the sale of public power plants without legislative oversight and in a no bid process is in the bill.
3. Why the Koch brothers, who financed Walkers' campaign, found it necessary to hastily issue statements about the power plants when the sale provision came to light.
4. Why Walker's conversation with the prank caller shows that Walker has always been ethical.
5. And why none of the signs are plants ( you know, like the outrageous ones at the TEA parties were).
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 5:08PM
You're the one making claims without proof; you have to put up or shut up, troll.
tj| 2.27.11 @ 10:58AM
Mike get with the program.. you people are going down and fast.
Patriot| 2.25.11 @ 11:58PM
What's that got to do with the Koch Brothers?
You'd be doing backflips if George Soros bought those power plants, hypocrite.
Mike | 2.26.11 @ 12:42AM
Patriot,
You have answered none of my questions.
Hint: George Soros is not a part of the answer to any of my questions.
Care to try again?
Dixie Pixie| 2.26.11 @ 1:21AM
OK...Mike....I will bite.
May the Moderator forgive me for feeding a Troll.
What part of the categorical denial did you not understand in the above Article.
The Koch Brothers deny any intent to buy any power plant.
So you must believe everyone is lying about everything.
Thus you are complaining about Wisconsin public authority giving up control of a private sector production facility in defiance of Socialistic / Marxist Theology.
Do I have the intent of your argument correctly?
Mike | 2.26.11 @ 8:43AM
Pixie,
Why was their ever a need for a categorical denial?
Dixie Pixie| 2.26.11 @ 1:29PM
Mike .... Because of people like you who can not accept the existence of any idea outside of their personal beliefs.
Kitty| 2.28.11 @ 8:36AM
Thank you!
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 5:09PM
Put up or shut up, Mike.
Clint| 2.26.11 @ 10:07AM
Because The Mainstream Media Agendists Pimp The Liberal Socialist Agenda.
Parrot in the house| 2.26.11 @ 4:35PM
Love these NAZI parrots. Just wish they would recycle the older talking points. These are stale as Gingrich's first wife.
Clint| 2.26.11 @ 8:16PM
Angry American Taxpayers Far Outnumber Big Government Union Parasite Leeches.
"A new Rasmussen Reports poll showed 48 percent of likely voters agree with Walker.
According to the poll released Monday, 38 percent sided with the public employees. The survey of 1,000 likely voters was taken Feb. 18-19 and had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
A national Clarus Poll released last week also found that 64 percent of voters think government workers should not have union representation. Just 29 percent said the opposite, in a survey of 1,001 registered voters taken Feb. 4-8.
And a Pew Research Center survey taken Feb. 2-7 found approval ratings for unions remain at historically low levels. The poll of 1,385 adults showed just 45 percent of people surveyed gave unions positive marks. The approval rating was comparable when people were asked how they feel about corporations. "
Hymie Weiss| 2.26.11 @ 10:37AM
Who cares about snot nosed Jewish scum, who never worked a day in their Pork laden days?
Patriot| 2.26.11 @ 5:10PM
Who let Charlie Sheen in here?
Hymie Weiss| 2.26.11 @ 10:37AM
Who cares about snot nosed Jewish scum, who never worked a day in their Pork laden days?
Oldefarte| 2.27.11 @ 2:43PM
These protest-artists obviously WOULD BE DANGEROUS IF THEY HAD A BRAIN [which of course, from their sign-postings, they DO NOT]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 2.27.11 @ 2:44PM
Geez, and these people ARE TEACHING AMERICA'S SCHOOL CHILDREN. No wonder the educational test scores are so low!!!!!!!