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In the headline of his most recent blog post John Guardiano claims Lara Logan was attacked by “Pro-Mubarak Barbarians, Not Egyptian Muslims.”
It should be noted that Guardiano previously asserted it was pro-Mubarak thugs who produced and carried anti-Semitic signs depicting Mubarak with a Star of David scrawled on his forehead without a shred of evidence to back it up.
As with his earlier accusation, Guardiano offers no evidence in support of his latest assertion. Sure, he offers us quotes from Nick Kristof and Tom Friedman from The New York Times as he has done previously but offers us nothing substantive arising from the actual incident in question.
Now if credible evidence does come to light that pro-Mubarak people were behind the attack on Lara Logan then so be it. I don’t care if the people who attacked Logan are pro-Mubarak or anti-Mubarak. They’re thugs all the same and they must pay for their crime.
Which brings me to the other half of Guardiano’s headline. Now I did not comment on the religious background of Logan’s attackers in either of my posts on the subject. In fact, I identify them as “Egyptian protesters”. Nevertheless, Guardiano makes a point of stating Egyptian Muslims were not involved in the attack on Logan. When I read that my first thought was, “So who does Guardiano think attacked Lara Logan? Presbyterians?” But then I read this passage:
And these were not Muslims who did this (chapter 5, verse 2
of the Qur’an says: “do not let your hatred of a people incite you
to aggression”). These were barbarians.
So by that logic one could argue that Muslims were not involved in
the attacks of September 11, 2001. In fact, this sort of rubbish
was advanced in the wake of 9/11.
Consider the words of Egyptian born writer Nonie Darwish:
When I learned later that the leader of the 19 terrorists
was Mohammed Atta, from a middle-class family from Cairo, I was
devastated. I called my friends in Egypt. They all said: “Don’t you
know this is a Jewish conspiracy?” I could not believe the denial.
For how long are we, the Arab people, going to accuse the Jewish
people of everything we do wrong?
If Guardiano wants to stick up for Egyptian Muslims that is his
business. But he sure isn’t doing them any favors.
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PCC| 2.17.11 @ 3:00AM
Mr. Guardiano has been right all along in his observations concerning the mainly secular nature of the Egyptian uprising. However, it seems to me that Mr. Goldstein is correct in asserting that Mr. Guardiano is standing on a very thin reed indeed when he characterizes Ms. Logan's attackers as "not Muslim".
Floyd Looney | 2.17.11 @ 1:50PM
Raping Pillager Muhammad himself was not a Muslim by that reckoning
Patty| 2.17.11 @ 3:42PM
You forgot pedophile in your description.
Steyn| 2.18.11 @ 12:04PM
Is conservative revulsion over the public gang-rape *tournante* on CBS's Lara Logan merely a case of "Islamophobia"? or did mainstream media "Candorphobia" cause CBS executives to wrecklessly endanger their reporter?
*See "Battered Westerner Syndrome"
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0802/steyn1.asp
beebop| 2.17.11 @ 5:50AM
This is going to remain a "he said/he said" unless and until there is an honest investigation. Considering that the lame stream media glosses over the anti semitic aspects to the attack on Congresswoman Giffords what do you think the chances of this occurring are? I am betting NONE since -- how did they put it at CBS? -- they didn't want to intrude on Logan's privacy? I guess this privacy is something that only attributes to liberals and the media ... oh ... right ... same group of people!
Robert Stacy McCain | 2.17.11 @ 6:43AM
Lutherans. I'm pretty sure it was Lutherans.
Steve colby| 2.17.11 @ 8:34AM
Right. We Presbyterians would never have gotten out of committee.
Too Many Tims| 2.17.11 @ 12:28PM
Couldn't have been the Anglicans, they aren't *interested* in women...
Patriot| 2.17.11 @ 3:23PM
Everyone knows it was the Amish who attacked Logan.
DG in GA| 2.18.11 @ 6:02PM
As a moderate Lutheran I am appalled by and soundly condemn the actions of a few extremist Lutherans in Egypt. I hope you all know these individuals are not representative of the Lutheran faith at all. They're behaving more like Muslims, for heaven's sake!
Clint| 2.17.11 @ 7:17AM
"She was rescued by a group of 20 Egyptian women, who enlisted the help of Egyptian soldiers to pull the thugs off her."
Thank God for these Quakers & Reformed Druids.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.17.11 @ 9:04AM
Aaron,
Your riposte cracked me up.
In this particular situation, Mr. Guardiano simply exposes his "foreshortening of history". Is that caused by his youth? I don't know.
I do know his chosen proof text from the Koran certainly demonstrates his shallow understanding of the Muslim mind and world-view, or perhaps his denial of said Muslim world-view.
I also know he will dig in his heels and refuse to take off his rose colored glasses.
No, the rapists were "probably" not Presbyterians.
Too Many Tims| 2.17.11 @ 9:20AM
Making excuses and wishful thinking is what it strikes me as, because if those rapists were harbingers of the new Egypt, the future will be hard to face.
All American American| 2.17.11 @ 9:29AM
Funny, in my koran, Surah 5 verse 2 is a little more than what Guardiano wrote. Mine sez:
"O ye who believe! Profane not Allah's monuments nor the Sacred Month nor the offering nor the garlands, nor those repairing to the Sacred House, seeking the grace and pleasure of Allah. But when ye have left the sacred territory, then go hunting (if ye will). And let not your hatred of a folk who (once) stopped your going to the Inviolable Place of Worship seduce you to transgress; but help ye one another unto righteousness and pious duty. Help not another unto sin and transgression, but keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is severe in punishment."
Now why would Guardiano not only leave out all the rest of the passage but change "trasngression" to "aggression?" That kinda changes the entire meaning of the passage huh?
Hmmm.
Dixie Pixie| 2.17.11 @ 10:06AM
There is more evidence that the "Mind Spiders of the Arachnid Nebula" were behind the Logan assault and gang rape.
That is to say John Guardiano has not presented any hard evidence such as the names and particulars of Logan's assailants.
Guardiano's core argument is a logic train based on three dubious tenets.
1...The "Protesters were peaceful, law-abiding and motivated only by the purest motives.
2...It was the Mubarak supporters that brought "Violence" to the "Peaceful and Moral" protesters.
3...Western reporters are always reliability unbiased interpreters of events and always tell the "Truth".
The third is so far from reality as to be laughable on its assertion.
The reporters were obviously stating their biases and prejudices as facts and thus can not be trusted.
The second assertion that it was only the Mubarak supporters that were "Violent" and thus the only ones that could be responsible for the Logan assault is contraindicated by the observable facts.
It is true Mubarak sent his supporters into the streets to protest the protesters.
But observably the "Protesters" gave violence as good as they got.
Nether side hesitated to fight the other.
The first assertion was obviously a pure moral projection on the part of the western reporters.
When the "Protesters" first went into the streets it was obvious they were nether peaceful nor law-abiding.
The mass break-ins into the National Museum and other governmental offices were proof of that.
The repeated massed rock-throwing by the "Protesters" at the police and Army was proof the "Protesters" were violent from the start.
And that was before Mubarak sent his supporters into the streets.
In short John Guardiano would have better luck claiming Space Aliens were the cause of the Logan Assault as there would be no evidence to counter the logic.
In Guardiano's argument there is plenty of counter evidence available.
As for Lara Logan::::
Lady, When you run with the Wolves of Humanity, expect to be bitten and often!!!!
Islam is not renowned for Mercy or the Western Humanities.
You were lucky to get out alive.
Mick Lee| 2.17.11 @ 10:17AM
Don't fool yourself. If certain news accounts are to be believed, Lara Logan was savagely gang raped and beaten in a scene more like a public lynching. America supports Israel. She works for an American network. Although she was born in South Africa, as far as the crowd was concerned she was an American. Thus, as far as the crowd was concerned, if not a Jew she was the next thing to one.
Lara Logan was targeted because she "was" an American and a woman--a pretty woman at that. Don't hold your breath expecting she'll get any justice.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.17.11 @ 11:15AM
This is what happens when people of the left start to believe their own BS.
Thomas| 2.17.11 @ 10:37AM
People are simply attempting to read too much into this attack in Cairo. There is simply no reliable evidence that this group of attackers was even organized, let alone members in any particular faction. It may turn out that they were, but at the moment, there is no evidence of this.
Nor, is this necessarily cultural. Young women have been attacked by groups in large celebratory groups and mobs in the U.S. And, a mob mentality still existed in Cairo at the time of the attack. Looting and violence had been occurring for days there and mob rule was evident. In mob situations, the anonymity of the crowd allows people to do things that they would not normally do.
As of this moment, it is impossible to accurately point fingers of blame at any group, other than the individuals responsible. As a child of the '60s, my mother taught me to avoid mobs, riots and demonstrations, because I could get hurt. This is still good advice.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.17.11 @ 10:57AM
Heh... except they "probably" were not Presbyterians.
holmegm| 2.17.11 @ 11:30AM
"Young women have been attacked by groups in large celebratory groups and mobs in the U.S. "
Of Presbyterians? ;)
holmegm| 2.17.11 @ 11:31AM
Maybe a Tea Party climate of hate was somehow responsible ...
John K| 2.17.11 @ 12:22PM
I blame Israel.
Occam's Tool| 2.17.11 @ 9:06PM
John K,
are you channeling Clint?
John K| 2.17.11 @ 12:22PM
It is a bad idea to send an attractive young woman to report from war zones. Obviously, this is not politically correct, but the chances of her being raped in these circumstances are very high. In the west, we think a boss who pats his secretary's bottom is guilty of sex abuse. In the east, that's nothing, gang rape is what will happen. Sorry to have to tell this to any attractive young woman who wants to be a war correspondent, but the fact is the world sucks. Sorry about that, but I don't make the rules.
tonypal| 2.17.11 @ 12:25PM
I cant' believe that that the most obvious culprit has not yet been fingered for this horrible act: Sarah Palin.
Too Many Tims| 2.17.11 @ 12:31PM
Yeah, didn't she publish a rape map somewhere?
Patriot| 2.17.11 @ 3:26PM
I knew Sarah's name would be brought up eventually.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.17.11 @ 3:43PM
Good one, tonypal! Heh!
Zilla | 2.17.11 @ 5:48PM
Don't forget Bush, everything is still Bush's fault, just ask Barry wtf Obama.
Floyd Looney | 2.17.11 @ 1:54PM
I am glad someone at AmSpec pointed out the obvious fallacies of John Guardiano.
Zilla | 2.17.11 @ 5:47PM
What is with all these big "conservative" websites lately publishing the works of dhimmies? First it was The National Review with a pro Ground Zero victory mosque & jihadi recruiting center which conveniently also slandered Sarah Palin, then Bill Kristol at the Weekly Standard with his admonishment of Glenn Beck's ACCURATE assessment of the possibility of a coming Caliphate and Kristol going Clapper about the Muslim Brotherhood, and now in that other guy's articles here at AmSpec we learn that violent Egyptian rioters and rapists are not muslim? Bad enough that you've got Son of the Brotherhood behind CPAC, a man who waxes tearfully about how great it is to kill & die for Al & Mo, but now some of the best places where many of us would try to find refuge from the MSM deluge of misinformation and taqiyya find it in the places where one would normally expect honest writing.
What gives?
Morning Quickie | 2.18.11 @ 12:12AM
The saddest thing is that this whole situation could have been avoided if CBS has taken some precautions: http://morningquickie.com/2011.....er-safety/