Last night, I watched Steve Kroft’s
interview with Wikileaks founder Julian Assange on 60
Minutes.
I was struck by a couple of exchanges between Assange and Kroft.
First, there was the discussion about Assange not redacting names
of Afghans who had assisted U.S. and Coalition forces:
Kroft: The most persistent criticism from
within the press has been that you have behaved recklessly from
time to time. And the example that they cite is the fact that
you’ve decided to release Afghan documents without redacting the
names of people who had provided intelligence to the U.S.
government.
Assange: There’s no evidence, or any credible
allegation, or even any allegation from an official body that we
have caused any individual at any time to come to harm in the past
four years.
Kroft: The Pentagon said that they’ve gone
through all of these documents and they found the names of 300
people.
Assange: Well, that’s new public information to
us. It’s possible that there are 300 names in the publically
released Afghan material. We don’t pretend that that process is
absolutely perfect. We did hold back one in five documents for
extra harm minimization review and we also improved our process.
So, when Iraq came around there was not even a single name in
it.
Kroft: I mean, there have been reports of
people quoting Taliban leaders, saying that they had the names of
these people and that they were going to take retribution.
Assange: The Taliban is not a coherent outfit.
But we don’t say that it is absolutely impossible that anything we
ever publish will ever result in harm. We cannot say that.
Yet let’s consider Jonathan Foreman’s recent
article in Commentary on Wikileaks where he
cites Assange telling The Times of London that
Afghans who had assisted U.S. and Coalition forces had behaved “in
a criminal way.” Foreman writes, “They were, in other words, on the
wrong side, mere collaborators who had put themselves in danger of
reprisal. It would seem that, in Assange’s worldview, the Taliban
is the legitimate government of Afghanistan, resisting imperialist
invaders.”
Then, of course, there is the clandestine nature of
Wikileaks:
Kroft: For somebody who abhors secrets, you run
a pretty secret organization.
Assange: That’s not true. What we want is
transparent government, not transparent people. We are an
organization who one of our primary goals is to keep certain things
secret to keep the identity of our sources secret so secrecy is an
inherent part of our operation.
Kroft: The State Department would make the same
argument. They have…doing very sensitive work that they’re trying
to make peace and negotiate situations around the world. Very
delicately. It’s very important that they do this in secrecy.
What’s the difference?
Assange: We don’t say that the State Department
should have no secrets. That’s not what we’re saying. Rather, we
say that if there are people in the State Department who say that
there is some abuse going on, and there’s not a proper mechanism
for internal accountability and external accountability, they must
have a conduit to get that out to the public. And we are the
conduit.
In other words, it’s secrecy for me but not for thee. I don’t
buy Assange’s claim he believes the State Department is entitled to
its secrets. If anyone from the State Department or somehow has
access to State Department information sends him documents is
he going to reject them? Hell no. Assange
accepts whatever he receives at face value. Given the
sheer number of documents Wikileaks has received how can he
and his organization have verified the veracity of the information?
How do we know someone who has an axe to grind hasn’t falsified
these documents or made them up out of thin air?
Clearly, Assange does not care about such things. His objective
is to weaken, if not to destroy the United States. And if that
means providing aid and comfort to our enemies then so be it. Yet
perhaps the only way to discredit Assange and Wikileaks is if it
can somehow be conclusively demonstrated the State Department
cables, documents pertaining to the Wars in Afghanistan and
Ira and other documents he has received and disseminated
contains false information.
Too Many Tims| 1.31.11 @ 12:42PM
Who would have dreamed thirty years ago, of private sector espionage?
David W| 1.31.11 @ 1:17PM
Are we taking up a collection yet so that we can give Mr. Assange the opportunity to examine "rendition" first hand? That way he can provide more transparency for that as well?
Kris Lepine| 1.31.11 @ 1:19PM
I used to say I was 3rd generation bossy woman but it went much deeper than that. When I was younger and my views were not tempered by a knowledge of God, I had a god complex. I thought I knew what was right for others. What a burder that was, having always to be right and know what was right for everyone, everywhere, at all times.
Jullian Assange, and lots of leftist, have these views. And they don't care who or what they ruin in the process of making the world in 'THEIR IMAGE". The poor slobs think they are god and want to impose their views, ideas, laws, principles, etc. on everyone and everything.
Steve in Pittsburgh| 1.31.11 @ 9:42PM
The Conservative Case for WikiLeaks:
http://www.amconmag.com/tactv/.....wikileaks/
Not that Assange is not a punk, or a prevert, or even merely an all around jerk.
Perhaps political enemies of certain people in this administration, whether they are still employed or not (Stanley McCrystal?) are using Assange and they paid that queerbait being held in solitary confinement A LOT OF $$$$$ to leak the docs, then keep his mouth shut, forever.
cali| 2.1.11 @ 5:26AM
I can never understand how the current admin was presented before the release of hundreds of documents, and could not find fault in it to release it.
I abhor Assange, but also those who enabled him, incl the admin.
Will| 2.1.11 @ 6:05AM
So, why is it again, that he's not seated in an uncomfortable chair in a windowless room in Quantico?