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As Philip Klein has pointed out Paul Krugman wasted no time in trying to blame Sarah Palin for the shooting of Arizona Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.
So too has Jane
Fonda,
The Daily Kos and
John Nichols of The Nation. I am sure there will be
more to come.
Their criticisms of Palin center on the SarahPAC map which targeted
20 Democratic Congressmen who had voted in favor of Obamacare with
crosshairs. Amongst those Democrats was Gabrielle Giffords.
Do these people really think Sarah Palin wanted Giffords and those other Democratic Congressmen murdered?
Do these people actually believe Palin’s political activity constituted a death threat to Giffords and the other Democratic Congressmen?
If so they why didn’t they object when Democratic Leadership Council essentially used the same tactic against President Bush during the 2004 presidential campaign?
Do these people honestly believe Palin inspired Jared Loughner to commit murder and mayhem?
As of this moment we don’t know why Jared Loughner did what he did today and we might never know. But if they believe in their heart of hearts that Sarah Palin was the catalyst for this heinous act then it says a great deal more about Paul Krugman, Jane Fonda, The Daily Kos and John Nichols of The Nation than it does about Palin.
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BD57| 1.8.11 @ 8:38PM
Krugman, et al. are almost as pathetic as the shooter.
Liberal Reader| 1.8.11 @ 8:43PM
OK. So four or five people say stupid things when people are being gunned down in grocery stores.
Don't you see there might be a problem in attributing this kind of thing to "the left"? That is, all people who are not conservative Republicans?
Just try to reign it in a little. Everyone should. Anyone who blames this shooting on a political party or movement is being silly, no doubt. But I don't think you'll find many on the left who don't understand that. And never MIND what you hear on television and on the internet. 83.7% of it is just the sheerest bullshit. You should know that by now.
Nick| 1.8.11 @ 10:51PM
WRONG, Marxist Reader. As usual.
83.7% of IT is what you guys really think, but don't have the guts to say in public. It's probably more like 99.9%.
Olbermann-child, Chris Matth-spews, Krudman are all saying what true liberals really think and have tried to keep between themselves. They have finally gotten sick of hiding it.
Liberal Reader| 1.9.11 @ 1:22AM
Well ... I guess since you put it in bold and italics you really must mean it, and therefore it must be true. You've seen through my outward facade to my secret motivations. What a wizard. Penetrating insight. I don't know why I bothered to try to fool you. And that clever wordplay with people's names. Most people would say that's the sort of humor 12 year old boys yuck it up about, but they'd miss the illumination such wit brings with it. Matt-spews.... Get it? Get it? His name is kind of like "Matt-spews"? Meaning, he spews....Get it?
Liberal Reader| 1.9.11 @ 6:09AM
It took me 5 hours to understand the jokes here! at least on Huff n Poof they are a lot more, should I say... basic ... Like my rants as Johnnie Smith.
We really have lost our moral compass, our godless, marxist mind is leading us to hell, through lies and violence.
Nick| 1.9.11 @ 11:03AM
I've always called him Matth-spews, Marxist Reader. Where have you been? Is that really you?
I apologize for all the bold type. I mistyped somewhere.
What was your Military Occupational Strategy again?
Sam| 1.9.11 @ 3:21PM
Nick, allow me to explain why liberal reader and other liberals cannot understand your good points.
The left-wingers who use 'violent rhetoric' don't count in the minds of liberals because they're nobodies. Not many people actually watch Olbermann, and I didn't know liberal talk radio existed. I've never even heard of Nichols or the Democratic Leadership council.
But everyone has heard of Limbaugh, Hannity, Sarah, and Fox News is the most trusted network in the nation according to a poll done by Democrats.
Liberals resent the popularity of conservative speakers- so their frenzied blame game is because they know that their people don't actually matter to anyone. Of course, that doesn't excuse their people for the things they say.
Liberal Reader| 1.9.11 @ 5:46PM
My MOS? Taking dicks up the ass, why?
Patriot| 1.10.11 @ 4:35AM
Crude and sophomoric as ever, Screeder; you haven't changed a bit.
Pity.
breathing| 1.9.11 @ 4:51PM
Liberal Reader, I address this to you acknowledging that your comments are sincere.
Here in Arizona, Democrats are already gearing up for a special election to fill Rep. Giffords' seat. No one is going to publicly state that, but it's the truth. The evening of the shooting, the Democrat Sheriff of Pima County, in a press conference providing "information" about the shooting, attacked a large portion of his constituents and the majority of Arizonans, calling Arizona a "mecca for prejudice and bigotry." Rep. Raul Grijalva blamed Tea Partiers. It's rather obvious who isn't going to rein it in, never mind what you hear on television, and that more than four or five people will use the occasion to say stupid things. Your brethren (especially those in public office) should display enough class to restrain themselves until this crime is proven to have a genuine political basis. Right now that does not appear to be the case.
krugmaniswrong | 1.8.11 @ 8:44PM
Krugman never misses an opportunity to unfairly blame conservatives for everything.
http://www.krugmaniswrong.com
Paul Litticks| 1.8.11 @ 8:45PM
If I were to tweet "I hope someone will fire my boss," would I be to blame if someone actually set him on fire?
linda| 1.8.11 @ 8:49PM
Yeah, but the weakness in the logic is that Sarah Palin and the Tea Party are considered "Right Wing" and the shooter's favorite books were Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto, which are decidedly *NOT* "Right Wing" tomes.
Oopsie! How on earth with the Left spin that?
Liberal Reader| 1.9.11 @ 1:23AM
Mein Kamf is not right wing? Hitler was a fascist, dear. That's right wing.
Where do you guys learn about history and political science? Glenn Beck?
breffnian| 1.9.11 @ 2:59AM
Hitler was a national SOCIALIST
Bob K.| 1.9.11 @ 8:38AM
Correct. After the German-Russian falling out in WWII Stalin ordered that Germany always be described as "Fascist" rather than "National Socialist" to avoid any possible confusion between their 2 countries forms of government. You can read an analysis of the "Misuse and misreading of "Fascism" " in Professor John Lukacs' seminal work "Democracy and Populism--Fear and Hatred."
Bob K.| 1.9.11 @ 9:22AM
And the "FEAR AND HATRED" that is discussed in the book is being played out in all the political blogs and responses to them in America today!
A small sample of them can be found below; here in Mr. Goldstein's blog!
Padraig| 1.9.11 @ 8:38AM
Smarty pants Liberal Reader perhaps you should read Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" which is an in depth examination and analysis of the roots of fascism and maybe you would realize your assertion above is devoid on any underpinnings.
Ned the Red| 1.9.11 @ 10:38AM
Jonah Goldberg.
Ned the Red| 1.9.11 @ 10:42AM
Shoot (whoops can't say that) the link will only take you to Amazon, not the specific book.
David W| 1.9.11 @ 11:12AM
The mistake many make is to believe that since Hitler (Facist) was against Communists and the Soviet Union before and during WWII that facism is “right” and communism is “left”. That it is, from my reading, incorrect.
Hitler was against communists not because of any ideological difference but because they were competition to his taking over Germany. After all, Nazi is short for Nationalsozialistiche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National SOCIALIST German Worker’s Party). The biggest difference I believe is that the Nazis were for supremacy of the German race (and start the Third Reich) and make rest of the world serve them. Communists were for a worldwide workers party that would throw off the chains of the elites. But the distrust of “others” (both are anti-Semite), of big business (though German business knew which side of the brot their butter was on and quickly became supporters), the rich, religion, and the dislike of capitalism was evident on both sides and made them more similar than different.
Obviously don't get my history from same source as Liberal Reader.
Paul| 1.9.11 @ 1:32PM
I would only point all that all authoritarian regimes and philosophies share common traits ... if you look closely they all seem suspiciously the same ... and yes Glenn Beck is a lunatic:)
Harvey Mallory| 1.9.11 @ 9:57PM
@LR: Fascism is "right wing" only in the sense it is to the "right" of Communism. May YT inquire where and when you learned about history and PoliSci? Also in which branch of the uniformed service is "taking dicks up the ass" considered an MOS and where does one train for that specialty?
Margie| 1.9.11 @ 3:15PM
There goes Liberal Reader excoriating the newbies again for speaking the honest truth.
You are absolutely correct, linda. The Communists are on the Left.
Keep on posting, ok?
Jeremiah| 1.8.11 @ 8:52PM
And who was outraged about "BusHitler" and movies calling for his assassination? About that Madonna video clip where she threw a grenade at him?! Wasn't Letterman wishing Palin's daughter to be gang raped in some locker room? And why is Hanoi Jane not crawling under a rock?
Kingofthenet| 1.8.11 @ 10:34PM
Madonna,Letterman and Fonda are NOT or ever will be Political candidates. Sarah Palin was/is
Jeremiah| 1.8.11 @ 10:54PM
Plain BS! One has to be a candidate or a card carrying member of a party to influence a criminal?
Your handle should read Turdofthenet.
Karl | 1.8.11 @ 9:05PM
The liberal dogma is that conservatives are stupid. In this case, too stupid to look at Palin's map graphic and realize she means ballots, not bullets.
Tim| 1.8.11 @ 9:35PM
What are those goobers supposed to think? Of course they took it literally. Anyone who listens to Palin has deep rooted problems anyway. What do you suppose "2nd amendment solutions" mean? Particularly to gun-totting morons...
Bob Grant| 1.8.11 @ 9:38PM
Sarah Palin's judgment will be called into question, and rightfully so.
Totally irresponsible for her to allow such images on her website.
The wall continues to build against her running for president.
T D| 1.9.11 @ 3:37AM
Like Obama is culpable for political violence for waving a walking stick given to him and saying he would "whoop" members of Congress who didn't pass his health care bill?
If you don't know the difference between figurative speech and real threats or incitement to violence, you need retraining in how to interpret spoken or written English.
Tom| 1.9.11 @ 11:44AM
I agree. Her quote, "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" is particularly instructive.
Oh wait, that was Obama.
And, what on earth should we make of the democrat leadership councils 'target' graphic, replete with militaristic words?
http://www.outsidethebeltway.c.....rspective/
Jack| 1.8.11 @ 9:39PM
The point is not that Sarah Palin wanted Giffords or these other members of Congress dead, or that she was calling others to take violent action against these government officials. Rather, this event highlights in tragic terms what can happen when you recklessly and irresponsibly use violent language and imagery in your campaigning. The targets she used weren't the cliche bullseyes, they were gun sights. This imagery was deliberate, the talk of using "Second Amendment remedies" by major political candidates was deliberate, and it creates a dangerous atmosphere of violent dissent against the United States, upon which the fringe right will act upon.
It is no accident that the Oklahoma City bombings happened right after the "Republican Revolution" of 1994. Now, after the recent "uprising" against the Democrats in the House this past election, we have another horrible violent act against innocent victims by a far right-winger.
Palin and her far-right cronies are stoking and misusing a festering anger among the right-wing fringe elements of society, and they cannot control it.
FUCKING LIBERAL LIARS!| 1.8.11 @ 9:42PM
GO TO BED.
Cya| 1.8.11 @ 9:50PM
Its not that anyone believes Palin wanted people to literally be gunned down, but violent imagery and retoric in a emotional political/economical atmosphere is recipe for this sort of masacre.
Really, why do republicans have to turn elections into bloodsport?
Jay Dee| 1.9.11 @ 7:34PM
But it's OK for Krugman, Olbermann, Schultz, et al to do it?
Sea_Hunter| 1.8.11 @ 9:53PM
I wish I could believe, even for an instant, that a few blabbering left wing wingnuts would be the end of this. Unfortunatly, I can't believe that it is.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. Expect to see the FCC push the "Fairness Doctrine" through. Afterall, the Government must have some control over the hate mongers on radio and television like Limbaugh and Beck. Why, without some control over their hate speach it might lead to another Democrat getting shot.
Expect a loud cry to curb our right to bare arms. Afterall, we can't have those beer drinking ignorant lower classes have a gun, why they just might shoot another liberal.
Expect the left to come on television and in pompus senatorial tones condem every consertive in sight, and a few that aren't.
Gentlemen, I wish to God that the babblings of a few idiots would end and we could regain a hold on sanity. I just don't believe that will happen. This is too good a situation for the left to pass up, and believe me, they won't.
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 10:00PM
What are you talking about you babbling idiot? It's not that you are ignorant. It is... that you are STUPID. A 9-year child died today and you and the other FAR-right loonies are responsible. Is that so hard for you to accept. Burn in hell.
Sea_Hunter| 1.8.11 @ 10:32PM
Johnnie; I admire how well you have expressed the difference in the world view of Consertives and Liberals. For a liberal it is always someone elses fault. It was Sarah Palin, or Rush, or Glen who made him do it. Or as you suggest, FAR gight loonies. In the consertive world view each person is responsible for his own actions. Palin didn't pull the trigger, the 22 year old white male did. He and he alone is responsible.
In the liberal world view, a person can be MADE to do something. Indeed, that is the whole rational for a big government. "We will make you pay for insurance." In the Consertive world view, no one can make you do anything. Doing requires personal choice.
Am I a loonie for believeing that he is responsible for what he did, and he alone? I don't think so. He took the gun, he loaded the gun, he aimed the gun and he pulled the trigger. Yes a 9 year old girl died today, and like you I am angry-sad over that. But unlike the left, I chose to blame the shooter, not anyone who may disagree with my vision of a world where each of us is held responsible for his own decisions, held to account for his own actions.
Eric Cartman| 1.9.11 @ 1:56AM
No, Johnnie . . . (Um, BTW, that is a really stupid moniker. Are you a little boy? Johnnie? Really? My son has a friend we used to call Johnnie. But then he turned 8 and wanted to be called John. What a wuss) . . . anyway, we wouldn't shoot people like Rep. Giffords or an innocent girl or any other elected official. You Lefties, on the other hand . . . . well, let's just say when you Lefty Aholes start your street riots, don't do it south of the Mason Dixon or in the West. And BTW, didn't the Lefty Aholes over at the Daily Kos "target" Giffords? Think ya did, Johnnie boi. And isn't it you Lefty Scum who abort little girls every day? I think it is! So as your Socialist dreams are taken apart bit by bit over the next two years, remember: riot in the North and East. They'll put up with your crap.
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 9:55PM
You are all fucking pathetic. Six people dead. A civil servant critically injured. And all you can do is whine about the LIBERALS. Give me a break you assholes. I am now certain that you will all spend your eternity in hell - enjoy. I'm sure they have guns down there and you can spend your time killing each other over and over. Fuck Beck. Fuck Limbaugh. You murdered a 9 year old today. Are you proud??????????
LiveFreeOrDie| 1.8.11 @ 10:40PM
Do you realize your rant proves the point?
BD57| 1.8.11 @ 11:43PM
I've been watching football all day, idiot.
If you want to see hatred, look in a mirror.
Todd S| 1.9.11 @ 12:02AM
You are a complete moron who is consumed with hatred and one miserable bastard no doubt. Go back to the Kos with your bile and lies and wallow in the mud with all the other haters.
Jay Dee| 1.9.11 @ 7:37PM
Shhhhhh Johnnie, sound travels - your Mommy may have to come down to the basement and take away your 'puter. Shhhhhh you don't want to lose your privileges.
Jake| 1.8.11 @ 9:57PM
No other potential presidential candidate on the right thought it was a smart thing to make a map with gun sights on Democrat House districts .
Obviously because it wasn't smart.
No other potential Republican nominee is now embroiled in this awful shooting .
They can all issue heartfelt statements , like Michelle Bachmann's personal one to Gabby and act like statesmen
instead of being a potential defendant in a wrongful death suit.
If there is found the smallest shred in this monster's computer or papers or videos showing that he saw Palin's directive,
the lawyers will jump on it faster than a chicken on a Junebug.
When you issue a challenge framed in the improper and indefensible way that Palin did ,
it shouldn't surprise anyone that a sick person may take that challenge literally.
If a Democrat operative made a map with a target over a House Republican , told his supporters to " reload " and " take aim " and that Republican was eventually shot by some nutcase ,
would we conservatives immediately absolve that Democrat ?
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 10:01PM
OMG. There is a sane person on this blog.
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 11:01PM
And I'm afraid it's not me.
Sea_Hunter| 1.9.11 @ 12:18PM
Finally, something the two of us might agree upon.
T D| 1.9.11 @ 3:59AM
Uh, Jake the Democratic Congressional Candidate Committee did have a map with target symbols on specific Republican congressmen running in the last election. Not just a politician, but the Democratic party's Congressional Candidate Committee!
How bad is it when an official arm of the Democratic Party uses "target" symbols on a map and announces on its website: "12 House Republicans Targeted in Major Grassroots Campaign"? Are you shocked and appalled at the Democratic Party's promotion of political violence?
Didn't think so. Because they weren't promoting violence any more than Sarah Palin was.
Jay Dee| 1.9.11 @ 7:40PM
Read this
http://www.outsidethebeltway.c.....rspective/
Another liberal proven wrong.
EWRoss | 1.8.11 @ 10:05PM
That these people would immediately use this tragedy for cheap political attacks should surprise no one. That anyone that doesn't drink he same Cool Aid should pay any attention to them should surprise everyone.
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 10:19PM
Hey, EW, what the fuck are you trying to say: "That anyone that doesn't drink he same Cool Aid should pay any attention to them should surprise everyone". Do you mean Kool Aid? And what is yours spiked with?
Kingofthenet| 1.8.11 @ 10:29PM
This guy was a 'bagger' just look under the credits for this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQvIDk5lgDg
It's time the Govt. lists the 'Tea Party' as a Terrorist Organization!
Tea Partier| 1.8.11 @ 11:23PM
Can't you just shut the fuck up, muslim faggot?
MominCO| 1.8.11 @ 10:31PM
'Scuse me, but WHO had the map with all the cross-hair sightings on them? Doesn't matter if the guy was nutso...he got his idea(s) from SOMEONE. And to me, that says Sarah Palin and her damned map. Forget 2012, Sarah. And deleting it from your SarahPac site and Facebook doesn't make it go away. YOU are responsible, lady. Do not pass GO, do not collect votes. Buh-bye!
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 10:34PM
Thank you all for confirming what I already believed about ranting right-wing nuts. You are all that and more. I'm done now except for one last comment: Aaron Goldberg, shame on you for being so short-sided. Don't you recognize this movement for what it truly is? I feel sorry for you. You and your bloggers killed a 9-year old child today. You killed a Federal judge, but you didn't like his rulings so it's probably okay. And you have to admit that Sarah Palin is an idiot, isn't she.. Stand up and take responsibility. And then change your rhetoric. It's time for change, Aaron. People don't want to read your crap anymore.
Eric Cartman| 1.9.11 @ 2:39AM
It's Aaron Goldstein, dumbass. What an idiot. You can't even get the author's name correct even when it's right above your post?! Johnnie, you truly are a wussy turd.
Donna Cord| 1.9.11 @ 11:51AM
Johnnie, you are a moron. What exactly does "short-sided" mean? Do you have a limp or something? I know what short sighted means, and I would suggest you learn the meaning also as it does appear to apply to you. Grab some "cool aid" you got with your food stamps and shut the fuck up.
nancy| 1.8.11 @ 10:35PM
I have never seen so much bull???? in all my life!
johnnie smith get help right away please! this is insane!
johnnie smith| 1.8.11 @ 10:50PM
Nancy, are you a psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist or a social worker? I'm just trying to determine your qualifications for determining that I am insane. If I understand your comment, I am insane but the guy who shot 19 people in Tuscon today isn't..? Is that what you are trying to say, Nancy? Well here's what I think, Nancy - YOU ARE A MURDERER. YOUR RHETORIC AND HATE DROVE THIS GUY, WHOEVER HE IS, TO DO WHAT HE DID TODAY. Face up to it, Nancy. You are a murder.
RCV| 1.8.11 @ 10:58PM
Johnnie Boy, where did you leave the K-Y jelly tube last night?
Todd S| 1.9.11 @ 12:25AM
Well your Paul Krugman who you admire so much believes like this lunatic johnnie smith so waht do you have to say about that? I told you he was a liar and will say and do anything to advance his leftist big government agenda and will destroy people in order to do so. The proof is staring you right in the face
Todd S| 1.9.11 @ 11:29AM
So are you going to defend that evil little bearded troll Paul Krugman RCV?
LiveFreeOrDie| 1.9.11 @ 12:13AM
It's hard to believe anybody could be so dense and bigoted. Follow his logic, whenever a lunatic murders a bunch of people we should immediately discern his political views and place the blame accordingly. He mistakenly puts his faith in the political opinions of a young, 22 year-old murderer, as if that is the primary thing to be concerned with. He also completely ignores the initial evidence which points to this person's leftist views. Meanwhile, he helps to show how the left, through their biased media, prematurely and conveniently blames conservatives for murdering children. Typical, hypocritical, drivel.
Barbara Gardner| 1.8.11 @ 10:46PM
Paul Krugman, Jane Fonda, The Daily Kos and John Nichols of The Nation seem rather quick to lay blame, they must be thinking of their own tactics and are assuming conservatives play the same game...I am sure much to their chagrin, the man that shot all those people is being reported as a left wing radical liberal, and I am sure he was not doing the bidding of any conservative let alone Sarah Palin.... cross hairs my butt, how stupid and juvenile can they get in their vain imaginings... All Rubbish as are their policies and ethics!
Johnnie Smith| 1.8.11 @ 10:48PM
OK OK, I was joking! You didn't take seriously the unbelievable bullshit I was spewing profusely all over the place, did you? Listen I'm a liberal fag and I take it up the butt, so why should I give a rat's ass about a jewish female who is not even liberal and who betrayed one of her gay constituent, whereas she's almost my worst nightmare? So, I really hope my criminal nonsense will push some muslim fag to murder Palin. Get it, cunt?
Johnnie Smith (the Real One)| 1.8.11 @ 10:57PM
Whoa, there you go Nancy. Who really insane on this blog?
Nick| 1.8.11 @ 11:01PM
That should be: Johnnie Smith (the Real Stupid One)
nancy| 1.8.11 @ 10:57PM
As you can see liberals are out of control. Just read their comments. Why play the blame game when we should be mourning the loss of some really great people. Shame on you Johnnie Smith. You do not care about the victims or you wouldnt be using language like you are. You just wanted to take advantage of someones misfortune to spread hate and lies. Johnnie you make our case easy. Thank you
Johnnie Smith (the Real One)| 1.8.11 @ 11:00PM
You are a murderer, Nancy. You and Sarah and Rush and Glen ... you all pulled the trigger today.
Margie| 1.9.11 @ 3:21PM
Actually, you just lied there, Johnnie.
That makes you a son of your Father, the Devil. (Jn. 8:44).
Nice.
Nick| 1.8.11 @ 10:59PM
It's too bad Mrs. Palin's map didn't have targets of Johnnie Smith, MominCO, Kingofthenet, and Jake on it.
Then I wouldn't have wasted my time reading their ignorant babblings.
Johnnie Smith (the Real One)| 1.8.11 @ 11:01PM
That's just great. Was that a threat, murderer?
Nick| 1.8.11 @ 11:04PM
It was as much of a threat as Mrs. Palin's sign was.
Which means it was no threat at all, Johnnie the baby killer.
Barbara Gardner| 1.8.11 @ 11:03PM
From the postings I have read it seems the liberals are the ones so full of hate that the filth spews from their mouths with ease, I suspect somewhat like the shooter himself. The ramblings are senseless, racist and bigoted. Nancy I agree with you if there were a case to be made they seem to be quite good at hanging themselves...Oop's must be careful, lest someone literally hang themselves!
Johnnie Smith (the Real One)| 1.8.11 @ 11:03PM
I'm going to sleep now. You all rant on about liberals and how they are destroying America....... nite.
Johnnie Smith (the Real One)| 1.8.11 @ 11:05PM
Although if you really were murderers you would have kicked the shit out of my overstretched ass, long time ago and made me choke on it. I owe you guys.
Johnnie Smith & Wesson| 1.8.11 @ 11:15PM
And I also have bipolar disorder. It means I could have been the killer myself, it's just a matter of timing. So when I'm not barfing liberal slime and taking Ali's dick up the donut,, I'm also the Pink Cow Boy. Palin has won in 2012 and we're losers.
John Q. Public| 1.8.11 @ 11:27PM
If Palin did nothing wrong then why did she scrub her site of anything relating to her "targeted" dems? Her rhetoric says all anyone needs to know about the kook right.
Nick| 1.8.11 @ 11:36PM
Because, Mrs. Palin knew kooks, like you, would say asinine things about it. She was damned if she did, and damned if she didn't.
You guys are making her a matyr. Thank you.
Nick| 1.8.11 @ 11:37PM
Make that: "[...] her a MARTYR."
nancy| 1.8.11 @ 11:38PM
now that Johnnie has taken his meds and went to bed... remember fighting over this is crazy.
God Bless each and every person whom was affected by this tragedy.
Bill| 1.9.11 @ 12:32AM
Sarah Palin putting those targets on those districts was a non-story and deserves no media attention. People who try to blame this on her are only trying to score a political point. It is clear that this guy was a complete nut. To believe otherwise is to think that the government is controlling us through grammar.
Spicy Joker| 1.9.11 @ 1:07AM
All you liberal goons can kiss my ass!
Marco| 1.9.11 @ 1:25AM
So, it appears that this shooter is a nut. But liberals should not be surprised were he not completely so. The once-majority white middle class is being dispossesed by the libs, their lives are being destroyed, their country taken from them. The libs should realize that some of them will suffer violence as a consequence.
E.Beck| 1.9.11 @ 6:26AM
Did everyone forget Democrat Governor Joe Manchin of West Virginia? While running for the senate in 2010, he said " I'll take dead aim at the cap & trade bill" in a video then used a rifle to shoot it. Seems everyone who jumped to blame Sara Palin, forgot this Democrat. But I wouldnt blame Mr. Manchin who is now a senator for the actions of someone else.
Jeremiah| 1.9.11 @ 6:50AM
I have a question for those on the Left who visit this site and comment, particularly those who have made a link between this guy and the Tea Party or GOP.
Why is it not okay to use the acts of jihadists, suicide bombers, or other terrorists as representatives of Islam, but it's okay for you to use this nutjob as an example of a movement that represents millions of Americans, and is based on the founding principles of our country?
Well there are, you should understand, seldom more than a few short hours between the time that a tragic act occurs and when its perpetrator's political beliefs, if any, come to light. The Venomous Left needs to take advantage of every single minute to paint the perp as a right wing extremist, before the actual facts are known. After all, those hours are the most important in shaping the public's perceptions and recollections of the event.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to read The Communist Manifesto, which, as you know, tops every good right winger's list of favorite books
martin j smith| 1.9.11 @ 8:18AM
The attempt to politicize this horrendous situation by the Left and that includes YOU LIBERAL READER IS CRIMINAL. IT IS FLAT OUT LIBEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to know more about the perp and if he had any assistance what so ever from anyone. I would like to know what that person is and their background. I do not expect to get the truth especially once our FBI and other Federales get involved. Never the less lets see what we get and there are people out there who will dig and get as much as possible for us to make our OWN JUDGEMENT. We do not need the NYT and their fellow travelers to tell us what their version of the truth. As far as I am concerned, Krugman and the NYT are liars and provocteurs and are responsible to some to the hostility in the nation on the political scene. Even allowing this piece to be published in such a raw time in our nation is telling who these people like Krugman really are.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 1.9.11 @ 8:19AM
Jeremiah: "Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to read The Communist Manifesto, which, as you know, tops every good right winger's list of favorite books".
You do realize that sarcasm sometimes doesn't always come through when you write it, like it does when you say it, especially on a topic such as this? I think it gets lost in translation or something.
Now I'm a member of the "Right-wing", a part of the Tea Party too (actually I'm President of my local chapter-although I'm still its only member), and I like to use sarcasm every now and again (actually, it's more like a breathing to me), but the Communist Manifesto is "not" one of my favorite books, nor should it ever be for any American. And that goes for Mein Kampf too, Hitler's book is "not" on the Tea Party reading list either, mostly because it's insane, but also because it's all about how great Socialism is, and it isn't great (and yes, the Nazi were Socialist, which is from the "Left", not the Right). But your right about one thing, the Left is doing all it can do, to paint this guy as being from the Right so that they don't have even more blood on their hands than they do already, like Jane Fonda hanging out with her Viet-Cong friends. Maybe Bill Ayers will write a book for this guy someday, that will explain away his actions, and make him sound like a moderate (that Loughner can then release under his own name)?
I'm relieved that this guy wasn't an Afghanistan Army Veteran, like the early reports were saying he was, because that would've fit perfectly into the Left's narrative, that returning Veterans are the biggest Terrorist threats that we face today (not the Muslims, but the Army Vets). The Left would've just loved it if he had been in the Army, who had just returned from killing Afghanistan Children, but alas he was just a Leftwing, Communist Manifesto reading. anti semitic pothead (not really what the Army is looking for in a Soldier).
Martin j smith| 1.9.11 @ 8:30AM
We are seeing the Left's true face: In the environment of tremendous grief what do we see group of Lefties do: politicize. They DO NOT CARE AT ALL ABOUT THE VICTIMS OR THE FACT OF THE SHOOTING ITSELF. NO, NEVER FAIL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A CRISIS. RIGHT GUYS ( OR IS IT left guys ? ). THAT IS YOUR MOTTO ? TIME TO CALL OF THESE LEFTIES OUT AS LIBELOUS,CRIMINALS AND ANTI AMERICAN.
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.9.11 @ 9:23AM
Folks,
This reaction from the communists, (pardon the shorthand), and their dupes, is as predictable as sunrise......isn't it?
Hassan the muslim terrorist wasn't a muslim terrorist at all in their view...but simply a deranged individual.
Conversely,
Of course they point their fingers straight at the TeaPartiers and/or Sarah when a deranged individual loses it.
In the end, the Left is made up of toddlers; dangerous toddlers to be sure, with their open boxes of matches.
This shooting was a tragedy, and my condolences go out to those hurt and killed, and to their families and loved ones. They will be in my prayers.
The irony in all of this is that those victims and loved ones are in Sarah's prayers as well.
nohype| 1.9.11 @ 9:51AM
Those famous cross hairs are actually the unicode character for position indicator. It lives at unicode 2316 and you probably have it on some font on your computer so that it will display correctly when used on a web page. If you want to illustrate positions on a map, it makes sense to use the position indicator symbol.
Kingofthenet| 1.9.11 @ 10:11AM
You got 'baggers' trying to go to meetings with members of Congress with guns? What is the message there?
I guess you 'Baggers' got your 'Second Amendment' Remedy like Sharron Angle wanted, you happy now?
Kingofthenet| 1.9.11 @ 10:22AM
THIS video is made by the shooter, 'Let the Bodies hit the floor indeed':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1lsLU-kUw
The ONLY people who like 'Drowning Pool' are Skinhead Ultra-National Military Types.
Nick| 1.9.11 @ 11:08AM
Go away, King of the Morons!
martin j smith| 1.9.11 @ 10:24AM
I have another idea about the trolls. They are purposely trying to provok ea reaction that they can get their teeth into. Kingofthenet: you are fulll of crap and take your garbage elsewhere. It stinks!!!
smith-wesson| 1.9.11 @ 11:43AM
Palin is down, obviously.
Alaska?
Oldefarte| 1.9.11 @ 12:50PM
I, along with others, have simply had it with liberals. Blaming Palin, the tea party movement, etc for this tradegy is a typical radical reaction by them, when in fact, it is their followers who should be blamed [since they are mostly STUPID]. Conservatives' reaction to this is/would be to assist [if present] the victims medically etc, to pray for their survival and healing, to donate their money toward the victims' recovery efforts, to moarn the injury and loss of life,etc. The left alternatively is to [as the Chicago candidate for mayor suggested] take full political advantage of these tradegies, and that is exactly what this old bag, washed-up, worthless former B-grade actress and her liberal followers are now attempting to do, by blaming Palin and the tea party. It is the stupidity of the left that is being manipulated by their leftist MSM, west coast radicals, etc into believing that conservatives are to blame. Their followers are simply STUPID, and there is no kind way of disguising same. The left's leaders brainwash their stupid followers into believing their propaganda, and in this case it is that conservatives' use of political wording like TARGETS and AIM covertly to achieve their radical political purposes. Conservatives go to their churches and pray and grieve, while liberals take to their leftist dominated airwaves and newspapers to propagandize their brainwashing messages to their stupid followers/constituents. The Daily Kos uses wording like MISSPELLED TEA PARTY SIGNS is a joke [at least tea partiers know how to make their own signs and don't have to depend upon their leaders and machines to spell/print their signs like the liberal movement's protesters do]. It is this STUPIDITY and BLIND IGNORANCE that tea partiers are protesting against, and why the liberals' futile attempt to pin the tail of this tradegy upon conservatives is so utterly sad!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sweeney| 1.9.11 @ 1:05PM
Good job!
Ned the Red| 1.9.11 @ 1:11PM
Just be glad the Republicans took back the House, otherwise we might see another attempt at disarming citizens. We might see it anyway, and I am sure we will hear calls for it.
I understand the Congresswoman is pro-gun rights, like President Reagan. This will throw a huge monkey wrench in the freedom grabber’s (liberals) agenda.
She, the other victims, and the families and friends of those lost and injured are in my prayers.
Simon Templar| 1.9.11 @ 3:33PM
Let me make it clear for liberal reader and all the other deranged lying wackos that make up the left...the shooter is one of your boys! Every hour that this story is being covered more information is coming forward to the shooters obsessions and political orientation....he was fascinated and obsessesed with left wing rhetoric and ideology...he loved burning the American flag and spouting off with the usual left wing rants. Hey, maybe he could guest host for Olbermann when he takes vacation?
Simon Templar| 1.9.11 @ 3:48PM
Newsmaxx reports, "ABC News reported Saturday night that Loughner had identified among his favorite books "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and the fiction classic "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" -- hardly the reading list of a Palin supporter.
Other clues have emerged about Loughner's persona from Arizona press reports:
He is "described by friends and former classmates as a loner, prone to dressing in black regalia of boots, trench coat and baggy pants even on the hottest days." He was removed from Pima Community College for causing disruptions in classrooms and the library, college officials said. His dispute with college officials led him to post a bizarre YouTube video declaring the college illegal under the U.S. Constitution and culminated in his suspension from campus.
His rants against the government that have surfaced on the Internet don't suggest he had a conservative perspective on big government. Instead Laughner's MySpace featured a photo "showing a close-up picture of an automatic handgun sitting atop a book or paper titled 'United States History.'" Another video shows a masked man burning the American flag.
"I can't trust the current government because of fabrications," Loughner wrote in a YouTube slideshow. "The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar." Loughner suggests that he was rejected from entering the U.S. Army to which he applied because he was offered a 'mini Bible' during the recruitment process, but that he declined to 'write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.'"
Negro X | 1.9.11 @ 6:26PM
All of you miss the message, this was a liberal telling his liberal leaders to keep in line or else you will be replaced with someone who will.