As Secretary of State Clinton, echoing President Obama, chides
Israel for construction in what the New York Times
calls "East Jerusalem" -- even though, as the photo caption
next to the story correctly notes, the neighborhood
in question is actually in southern Jerusalem -- Michael Weiss
offers a nuanced and historically literate
rebuttal to some widespread misconceptions:
Of all the problems bedeviling Israeli-Palestinian peace talks,
the status of Jewish settlements in the West Bank -- thrown into
the spotlight again this week by Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu's visit to the United States -- has surely attracted the
most attention. But that does not make it the most important or the
most pressing issue.
Contrary to what many believe, Israelis are largely in agreement
over the terms and circumstances under which they would compromise
over the settlements -- a consensus that is surely larger than that
which exists in Palestinian society over how to reconcile the
feuding Islamist and secular nationalist factions in Gaza and the
West Bank. While Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has
used settlements as an excuse to disrupt the latest round of peace
talks, the open secret in today's Middle East is that the issue is
one of the least problematic obstacles to a final-status
agreement.
To claim that Har Homa isn't really in East Jerusalem because
it's geographically in the southern part of the city is like saying
that Bayreuth and Regensburg weren't in West Germany because a
glance at the map shows that they were in southern Germany (and
even to the east of parts of East Germany).
What people miss is that Israel is currently under something
close to a DE FACTO settlement freeze. And it's because of a
different Barak - not Obama, but Labor defense minister Ehud Barak.
If we make it official, then the goernment falls; if we don't do it
unofficially, the government falls. So we do the opposite of the
PA; we make believe we are hard-line, but we really aren't.
And this is all STUPID. None of the building would be outside of
existing settlements, anyway. All we are doing is making people's
lives miserable for no reason. Reminds me of cap-and-trade,
actually.
mzk1| 11.11.10 @ 4:53PM
BTW, the U.S. Congress long ago declared that Jerusalem should
be undivided, and that it is the capital of Israel. Yes, I know,
they don't get to do foreign policy, but it is an important
statement.
And from Israel's point of view, it is our capital, period. ALL
OF IT. It is not a settlement. It was taken from us by the
Jordanians in 1948 in an unprovoked war of extermination, and we
got it back. In an agreeement (if you like fantasy), we might let
the PA make a capital out of some of the Arab vliilages annexed on
the east, but that's it. Please stop dreaming, and stop listen to
the extreme left, it's ours, and you can't have it.
Seamus| 11.11.10 @ 3:11PM
To claim that Har Homa isn't really in East Jerusalem because it's geographically in the southern part of the city is like saying that Bayreuth and Regensburg weren't in West Germany because a glance at the map shows that they were in southern Germany (and even to the east of parts of East Germany).
explosion proof light| 11.13.10 @ 12:40AM
Anything that reduces the deficit is okay
mzk1| 11.11.10 @ 4:46PM
What people miss is that Israel is currently under something close to a DE FACTO settlement freeze. And it's because of a different Barak - not Obama, but Labor defense minister Ehud Barak. If we make it official, then the goernment falls; if we don't do it unofficially, the government falls. So we do the opposite of the PA; we make believe we are hard-line, but we really aren't.
And this is all STUPID. None of the building would be outside of existing settlements, anyway. All we are doing is making people's lives miserable for no reason. Reminds me of cap-and-trade, actually.
mzk1| 11.11.10 @ 4:53PM
BTW, the U.S. Congress long ago declared that Jerusalem should be undivided, and that it is the capital of Israel. Yes, I know, they don't get to do foreign policy, but it is an important statement.
And from Israel's point of view, it is our capital, period. ALL OF IT. It is not a settlement. It was taken from us by the Jordanians in 1948 in an unprovoked war of extermination, and we got it back. In an agreeement (if you like fantasy), we might let the PA make a capital out of some of the Arab vliilages annexed on the east, but that's it. Please stop dreaming, and stop listen to the extreme left, it's ours, and you can't have it.