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Roger Ailes Leads from the Front

By on 10.21.10 @ 11:38PM

Hear, hear to Fox News CEO Roger Ailes! The man stands by his people when they’re under fire.

NPR fires Juan Williams, so what does Ailes do? In a classy and well-timed move, he renews Williams’ contract with Fox, raises Williams’ salary, and publicizes the move with this commendable statement:

Juan has been a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints since his tenure began at Fox News in 1997. He’s an honest man whose freedom of speech is protected by Fox News on a daily basis.

Ailes is the kind of guy you want to work for and follow into battle — as I say, a class act. And, what’s more, he understands, appreciates, and respects a free press, a free citizenry, and the First Amendment.

Well done, Sir — and Semper Fi!

View all comments (66) |

Franklin| 10.22.10 @ 2:30AM

The last few days have been discouraging. Things seem to get worse every day.

But this news is so refreshing that it puts everything we are fighting for in perspective. We fight to let people like Roger Ailes do what they want. It's even more rewarding when they do the right thing!

Patriot| 10.22.10 @ 2:46AM

The Left is becoming desperate because we, the great unwashed, have awakened and are on them.

Keep up the pressure, but most of all--pray!

Jocon307| 10.22.10 @ 3:25AM

Bravo Mr. Ailes, but I am not surprised. When I heard the annoying news today about Juan Williams the first thing I said was "Roger Ailes will be getting out his checkbook...."

I like Juan Williams a lot, and the silver lining of this cloud, for me, is to learn that he really is the nice man he seems to be on TV.

Way to go NPR, fire the nicest man on the payroll, just to show what intolerant b*tches you are.

BTW, the "shrink" quote may be good for a defamation suit, I'd certainly advise a consult with a good lawyer.

Hang in there Juan, and remember, money talks and facist bullsh*t walks!

Dana Kincaid| 10.22.10 @ 4:49AM

Roger Ailes is a fat pig.

Aladdin| 10.22.10 @ 5:21AM

Typical Fascist liberal: No substance and no style.

We win, you lose!

Chris| 10.22.10 @ 6:49AM

Maybe so in your infitile mind, but the real slop in the barn yard is the liberal media who enjoy selling themselves out as they bash America and cheer for the Marxist, Pimp & Chief Obama. Rodger Ailes also has a "fat" check book and the Fox News ratings proves that hands down.

Chris| 10.22.10 @ 6:53AM

Correction; Chief Pimp Obama

Nolann Ryann| 10.22.10 @ 8:27AM

The stunning brilliance of your statist mind is laid bare for all to see with this juvenile sampling. Now go back to your refrigerator box under the overpass. Home sweet home.

rrebell| 10.22.10 @ 9:01AM

Wow. What an argument.

CalMark| 10.22.10 @ 1:19PM

"Fat pig." WoNow that's what I call political discourse!

Whatever happened to tolerance, compassion, and empathy for "excessive weight augmentation-challenged" persons?

It's enough to make you stop believing in liberalism!

Richard Baker| 10.22.10 @ 7:01AM

Chris:
Infantile. The root word is infant not infint.

Baseball Mom| 10.22.10 @ 9:07AM

Interesting isn't it, how Fox is more committed to differing opinions than the comrades at NPR?

Freer, fairer and more balanced. We're applauding Roger Ailes here in fly-over country.

dave| 10.22.10 @ 9:41AM

You inadvertantly spilled the beans when you wrote this: "The man stands by *his* people when they're under fire".

I wonder if you were so sanguine when Fox fired Dr. Marc Hill for some of his more leftist statements or the other Hill (E.H. or something like that) for her comments about Obama's fist bump.

Let's face it - the type of liberals that Fox features are barely liberals (Colmes in particular was nothing but a miquetoast). The hilarious thing is, they lose the NPR brand, which weakens their "Fair and Balanced" thing.

Having said all of that, NPR was totally wrong for firing him. As was CNN for firing Sanchez and Fox for firing the above-mentioned folks.

Warrior | 10.22.10 @ 11:08AM

Nice misinformation. Depending upon which source you believe, Dr. Hill was fired because of his support for two convicted cop killers or his inability to respond cogently to questions asked. Dr. Hill still does regular appearances on FoxNews as a guest. ED Hill was not fired but simply did not have her contract renewed.

Sanchez deserved to be fired because he is a fool. NPR has every right to fire Juan Williams when his performance and/or ratings are slipping or for any other reason that falls within employment guidelines. You miss the key point here where a liberal NPR fires Mr. Williams for comments he made on a network separate from theirs. So much for liberals being open minded and believers of free speech.

DRed| 10.22.10 @ 1:50PM

What does free speech have to do with it?

Patriot| 10.22.10 @ 7:04PM

How about NPR's double-standard regarding free speech? Nasty weasel, Nina Totenberg freely spews her vicious liberal propaganda and she's still at NPR--why fire Juan Williams for far less?

Hypocrite.

dave| 10.22.10 @ 12:55PM

Nice misinformation yourself. At least NPR was upfront for the reasons why they fired him. And, of course, there was also the frequent requests that they had made for him not to use their branding when he appeared on Fox. And, as far as we know, Williams might make "guest appearances" on NPR (if they offer and he wants to, which he might very well not want to). so time will tell on that. I guess that we can discount the "inability to respond cogently to questions asked" excuse if he's still making "regular appearances" (unless of course they only want liberals that can't "cogently respond"; I wouldn't put it past them since they used Colmes for so long ).

Frankly, I find not "renewing a contract" on the heels of controversial comments to be tantamount to being fired.

Of course Sanchez deserved to be fired because of his performance. He didn't deserve to be be fired because of his Stewart or CNN comments (Stewart himself says as much) although I have to wonder how long a Fox personality would last if he accused Ailes of being a white, upper-class aging Republican heavyweight guy that typifies the increasing power that right-wing media holds, or mentioned his or her discomfort with working with a company that had significant Muslim funding.

Fox has showed that their concept of free speech is just as fluid as that of NPR.

Warrior | 10.22.10 @ 2:08PM

Are you a child? Tell me where I've posted information that is not accurate. Leftitst bullshit like yours is what makes any potential at rational discussion impossible. So go ahead and continue to go through life with your head planted firmly up your ass. In your liberal dementia you are trying to compare NRP to Fox News. Fox News has shareholders and is profitable. NPR is run by a communist wannabe and can't survive without public assistance. Williams is fired because the CEO claims he made a bigoted statement, Sanchez was fired because he actually made bigoted statements. NPR cannot muster enough of an audience to make it a viable business entity, Fox News has a viewership that outnumbers CNN (Headline News included), MSNBC and CNBC combined. Not renewing a contract is not equivalent to terminating someone, unless you have some liberal business school training that enables you to make this equivocation when speaking with other left wing imbeciles. Ailes runs a business, not one person on this site is attempting to put him on a pedestal next to Mother Theresa.

Take your arguments to the Huffington Post where like minded fools can debate the meaning of the word is. The right wing media you are attempting to portray is a joke. Fox News would give Reverend Wright a show if they believed it would get ratings. You truly are pitiful.

Dana Kincaid| 10.22.10 @ 2:37PM

Im sorry. I'm on edge, I had to go to the emergency room last to remove plastic from from my rectum. I slipped and fell in living room onto a bowl of plastic fruit. Freek Accident!

dave| 10.22.10 @ 3:30PM

"Take your arguments to the Huffington Post..." So much for the desire for "free speech".

"Fox News has a viewership that outnumbers CNN (Headline News included), MSNBC and CNBC combined".

So much for the myth of the dominance of liberals in the media.

"You truly are pitiful".

So much for reasonable dialog between the Left and the Right. This is the prime example of why outlets like Fox News, Drudge, Breitbart are a major part of the schism in the country today (but I'll also agree that Huffington Post does more than its fair share as well).

I'm "pitiful" for expressing my opinion and doing it in a reasonable fashion? There's nothing that I've written that is counter to the facts. You don't like the opinions? Fine. And tough.

"Liberal dementia", "head planted firmly up your ass", "are you a child", "leftist bullshit", "like-minded fools" - all right wing slandering talking points that do nothing to further the discussion.

Warrior? nah...paper tiger. Nonetheless, have a wonderful weekend.

Warrior | 10.22.10 @ 4:46PM

Doesn't work moron. You are trying to state opinion as fact and don't like to get called on it. I give you fact and you again come back with opinion. I give you a comparison for Fox News with other cable channels and you make a feeble attempt to make it look I've compared it with all mainstream media.

Typical liberal, when the facts don't fit, argue with talking points and opinion. It is impossible to discuss as stated because you refuse to respond with fact. The discussion cannot be furthered while you keep taking the liberal low road. Also you idiot, slander is spoken, libel is written.

Paper tiger? Drop dead and screw you and your weekend. Liberal trolls do not deserve pleasantries.

Patriot| 10.22.10 @ 7:11PM

It's not slander/libel if it's the truth, dave. Sorry.

dave| 10.22.10 @ 8:38PM

Awwww, poor "warrior". Got all upset. Tried to play the bully but the "victim" wouldn't play. So now he snorts and stomps his/her feet like a two year old. Typical right wing nutjob.

As to Patriot (and warrior - not small case "w"), I was using slander in a non-legal way. I wasn't going to sue him/her. As you might or might not know, there is a second, non-legal definition of slander - "false and malicious statement or report about someone". there's no "oral" attached to it. It's just an evocative adjective. Sounds better than "libelous", at least to me.

PS, wasn't it clear that I already determined that the "discussion couldn't be furthered"? You already pissed in that well.

Patriot| 10.22.10 @ 9:06PM

Like I said before--it's not libel or slander if it's the truth. Thanks for NOT reading my post!

dave| 10.22.10 @ 8:48PM

BTW, when I say "typical right wing nutjob", I'm not referring to all on the Right. I'm only referring to types like "warrior", who like to virtually dress up in military garb and talk tough and "mean" and huff and puff on the internet. Meanwhile, I'm content to know that I was *actually* a warrior, a junior NCO in the Infantry during Reagan's term, stationed 75 miles from the East German border, back when there *was* an actual border (and a big ole Wall in Berlin).

dave| 10.23.10 @ 9:37AM

"Like I said before--it's not libel or slander if it's the truth. Thanks for NOT reading my post"!

Oh, I read it. and I even wrote something about pointing out the difficulty of telling whether calling me a "moron", asking if I were "a child", if I had my head up my ass, etc. was "the truth" based on a couple of comments. But I thought that it would be gratuitious. Now you might "believe" that I am a "moron" or whether I have my head up my ass (which, considering the fact that I'm posting on a coservative website instead of hanging with "like minded fools" seems a bit of a stretch), but that has nothing to do with truth, but opinion. so I decided it would be gratuitious to point that out. However, it seemed worthy to bring up the fact that both libel and slander can be used in a non-legal, purely descriptive fashion. Thanks for reading *my* post, since I clearly pointed out that it had nothing to do with an actual legal definitions but was more a descriptive phrase, sorta like "head up the ass". Surely you don't believe that anyone can physically put their own head into their colon.

I find it funny that "warrior" tried to push my buttons and it didn't work, and it was so easy to push his/her's. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Patriot| 10.23.10 @ 10:59PM

I didn't call you a moron--Warrior did. Why blame me for another poster's insults? Perhaps Warrior is right--you do have your head up your ass.

dave| 10.24.10 @ 12:44AM

I didn't say YOU called me a moron. I was talking about all of the nastiness in "warrior's" first post (which you will figure out if you reread my post where I quote from that first "welcoming post"). You seem to have your panties in a wad for no reason. I was pointing out that your statement about "truth" determing slander or libel was misleading because of the difficulty in "proving" the truth behind all of the stupid things that 'warrior" wrote to someone he.she didn't know from Adam and based on a couple of posts.

Besides, it was irrelevant since I wasn't trying to prove slander or libel. It's funny how literal people can be when it serves their purpose.

Patriot| 10.24.10 @ 1:31AM

You've got quite a persecution complex, and waaay too much time on your hands.

You're lying about Fox News: Dr. Hill still makes appearances on O'Reilly's show and Red Eye--and E.D. Hill was not fired on the spot like Williams, her contract just wasn't renewed.

Why don't you address NPR's egregious double-standard in their treatment of Juan Williams and Nina Totenberg?
She has said far worse things, vicious things about republicans. Why wasn't she fired for her disgusting remarks?

Hey, hypocrite--your libtard bias is showing.

prolib| 10.23.10 @ 5:12PM

Into which battles does Mr. Guardiano suggest we follow Roger Ailes?
Iraq? Afghanistan? Pakistan?

John Guardiano| 10.23.10 @ 6:53PM

ProLib,

That's an easy question! We should follow Roger Ailes in the battle for free speech; free and open intellectual inquiry; and a free, fair and balanced press.

We should follow his lead and actively encourage rather than squelch and censor free speech.

Can we count on your support?! If so, whether you realize it or not, you're probably an American conservative : )

Regards,
John

Patriot| 10.23.10 @ 11:04PM

Prolib's a fascist--free speech is only a right for him.

dave| 10.24.10 @ 10:30AM

OK, now *you're* being an asshole too, so I won't hold my fire. First of all, for Dr. Hill, did he make appearances the week after he was fired? If not, then let's wait and see if NPR makes an offer to have Williams come on as a guest (and see if he decides to take them up on it). Besides, HILL WAS FIRED for his liberal views. Skip over that part all you like. As for not having your contract renewed immediately after making a controversial comment IS the same thing as being fired. You can "no-spin" all you want on that one. Also, why not speculate yourself on the future of a Fox news commentator if he or she started taking Fox News to task for having significant Muslim financial ties. You're willing to speculate on Williams' future relationship with NPR by bringing up the fact that Dr. Hill still makes occasional guest visits. Of course, nobody would be stupid enough to "follow the Fox money" on another network, so we won't ever have to praise Fox News' commitment to "The Truth" in this aspect.

As for Totenberg, feel free to offer some quotes that are as bad as what Williams said in terms of social context. I know you guys like to feed fear as a political tool and all that, but "bashing Republicans" is nothing new at all such since "party and political orientation bashing" goes on 24-7 on Fox News (and I have no problem with any of them showing up on other networks and promoting their anti-liberal/progressive/Democratic/populist/whatever your pinheaded political view doesn't like, and I have to admit that I like a sobbing Glenn Beck and snarling Stewart Varney as much as anyone). when Nina Totenberg gets away with pushing fear buttons (Muslims, airplanes, Muslim garb), then we'll talk. You shouldn't be so sensitive if she calls you mean or whatever it was that made your little thin-skinned hypocritical whiny-boy personna crawl to a corner and stop sobbing.

Frankly, if I had someone moonlighting in a rival company, using my brand as a cachet to help said rival company make themselves look better, and they continued to do that after being asked repeatedly not to do it, I'd fire their ass just for that. And if they threw a stinkbomb while doing it, they would certainly be fired.

BTW, your inbreed intelligence has blinded you to the fact that I wrote this in my very first post - "Having said all of that, NPR was totally wrong for firing him". I don't know how I could have been more specific - I even emphasized the wrongness of it by modifying it with TOTALLY.

Finally, people who call themselves "patriot" fall into the same self-aggrandizing category as someone who calls themself "hero". To me, patriot is a sobriquet that someone else bestows on somebody else. Someone who calls THEMSELF a patriot is just a poser.

PATRIOT| 10.24.10 @ 8:18PM

If you disagree with NPR's firing of Williams why do you defend their obvious unfair double-standard and try to bogusly equate it with Fox's policies? Typical weak liberal.

Nice try lying about Dr. Hill. Fox obviously didn't fire him if he's still appearing on the network.

NPR IS WRONG PERIOD.

I don't care what a POS libtard traitor like you thinks--you belong to the party of perverts, freaks and losers--and we're going to kick your stupid libtard asses on November 2. Cheers, stupid!

dave| 10.24.10 @ 11:02PM

"If you disagree with NPR's firing of Williams why do you defend their obvious unfair double-standard and try to bogusly equate it with Fox's policies"?

Because, unlike you, I haven't drunk the Right Wing koolaid and don't equate Totenberg making critical comments about Republicans with the statement that Williams made.

"Typical weak liberal".

Typical chest thumping Neatherthal whining.

"Nice try lying about Dr. Hill. Fox obviously didn't fire him if he's still appearing on the network".

According to Wikipedia, and backed up by numerous sources:

"Dr. Hill was fired from Fox News Channel on October 16, 2009. News Corp CEO Rupert Murdoch publicly declared that Hill no longer worked for Fox during a shareholders meeting, in response to a question about Hill's "reputation of defending cop killers and racists"[7]. The question was a reference to Dr. Hill's support for Assata Shakur, who Hill says "is not a cop killer – I would never support a cop killer – but a wrongfully convicted political activist."[8] Hill, however, remained oblivious to the sudden termination of his employment, even taking to his Twitter account to deny reports: "Relax y'all. Don't believe the internet rumors."[9]

However, later that day, Hill confirmed reports to the Huffington Post, saying: "I am no longer employed by Fox News and grateful for the opportunity and I have nothing bad to say."[8]

It was later revealed during an interview with conservative radio host Steve Malzberg that Hill had no information on why he had been fired, and that he learned of his termination via Google alert.[7] On how he felt about being fired from Fox News, Hill said that he was "a little puzzled" and told Malzberg that he had no more information than the general public".

You lose. He was fired. By the boss. Spin it all you want.

"NPR IS WRONG PERIOD".

I already said that. Try to keep up.

"I don't care what a POS libtard traitor like you thinks--you belong to the party of perverts, freaks and losers--and we're going to kick your stupid libtard asses on November 2. Cheers, stupid!"

Wow. Spoken like a true third grader. Bet you didn't even serve your country like I did. Now run along - mom needs her computer back.

Oh yeah, I heard some bonehead analyst on Fox moaning about all of the state and local dollars that NPR gets, since he had to admit that NPR doesn't get very much direct federal money. Funny how he failed to mention all of the NY tax breaks that Fox has received. Talk about hypocricy. Of course, you probably don't mind that, just as you don't mind all of the Muslim money that Fox gets through Fox's second largest shareholder, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a guy who has donated $300,000 to Iman Rauf, the guy building the "Ground Zero 'Mosque' " (mosque in quotation marks since it's clearly NOT a mosque, just a hospital isn't a church because it has a chapel and Ground Zero also in quotations since it clearly isn't at the Ground Zero site in the same way that a Shinto temple isn't adjacent to Hickam Field, which is adjacent to Pearl Harbor :g: .

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 2:03AM

You haven't been drinking the moonbat Kool-Aid--you've been swilling it, libtard.

Totenberg wished AIDS on Senator Helms and his grandchildren and Williams stated he personally felt unsafe boarding an airplane with Muslims wearing Muslim wear and behaving as Muslims first after the traumatic events 9/11. Williams also went on to say that he believed Muslims are generally good people and just an extremist few are the problem. He defended them, fool!

Only a hopelessly dishonest and ideological cretin could equate these two statements. Totenberg is a typical vicious liberal, and Williams is a decent liberal giving his honest opinion . Obviously, you have more in common with the nasty Totenberg.

I've seen Hill on Fox several times since his alleged "firing" regardless of the obvious BS you've read at HuffPo. Duh!

Fox News is a hugely successful enterprise--it must burn your liberal butt! LOL!!

See you November 2, tool.

dave| 10.25.10 @ 9:12AM

Calling me (or anyone) "vicious" is hiliarious after reading all of your swill. You should look in the mirror, hypocrite.

Only a fool would say something like this: I've seen Hill on Fox several times since his alleged "firing" regardless of the obvious BS you've read at HuffPo". Wiould you believe Andrew Breitbart?

http://www.breitbart.tv/fox-ne.....mont-hill/

You sir are simply a fool.

As to Totenberg's FIFTEEN YEAR OLD COMMENT (which I have heard about for the first time, BTW) - while it's not quite "wishing AIDS on Helms and his grandchildren", it wasn't a nice thing to say. does it rise to the level of Williams' comment? You right that "only a hopelessly dishonest and ideological cretin could equate these two statements". since you are doing exactly that, saying that if NPR should have fired Totenberg if they fired Williams, I guess you're being honest about yourself. The fact that you are hopelessly dishonest AND an ideological cretin is a bit stronger than I would have said, but it's pretty clear from your comments that you are both dishonest AND ideological.

It's funny how you use the word vicious as if it were a bad thing while spewing invective after invective yourself. Don't forget what's good for the goose and all that.

Now take your huffing and puffing and try to blow down another strawman. You're the wolf that couldn't blow down a matchstick man.

BTW, you're right, the "Ground Zero Mosque" will never be built. Now on the other hand, a community center *might*.

You're just another paper tiger like "warrior". You're dimissed now. Run along.

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 3:46PM

Hopefully we can purge dishonest liberal crap like from the congress soon. Americans have rejected your lies and perfidy.
See you November 2, libturd--just cast one vote please.

Cheers!

dave| 10.25.10 @ 6:42PM

Happy to. Just make sure you don't have your cronies at Fox News fix the election, 'k? Have them at least hold the victory announcement for an extra hour or two so that you don't give anything away.

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 7:16PM

Fixing elections is something you liberal losers excell at--you couldn't get elected otherwise.

Cheers!

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 3:55PM

You are an idiot. What's the point of trying to make you understand how unfair it was for NPR to fire Williams and not Totenberg? People like you who are blinded by ideology are destroying our country.

Get a job, loser; your welfare payments are going to be cut by the new Republican congress.

Cheers!

dave| 10.25.10 @ 6:46PM

"What's the point of trying to make you understand how unfair it was for NPR to fire Williams and not Totenberg"?

I don't know, but you sure seem to spend a lot of your spleen doing it.

"People like you who are blinded by ideology are destroying our country".

Hey, you're the one spewing the "ideology". It's funny how you have so little faith in our country. Are you a Communist or something?

"Get a job, loser; your welfare payments are going to be cut by the new Republican congress".

Got one, thank you very much. Been working for 38 years now, including 4 protecting your sorry ass from the Red Horde. Why don't YOU step up to the plate and put your life on the line, faux patriot?

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 7:14PM

Lickspittle liberals like you always claim to have military experience. Sure.
The closest you've ever gotten to the military is playing video games in your step-mom's basement. LOL

Better get a job before the Republican congress cuts off your welfare checks, loser boy. You can't live in the basement forever.

Cheers!

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 2:12AM

Oh, BTW--that triumphal Ground Zero Mosque will NEVER be built. Count on it.

Someone has to stand for the 3000 innocent Americans slaughtered on 9/11. Obviously, it's not vicious liberal traitors like you and Totenberg.

Don't forget to vote on November 2--just try to limit it to one vote unlike your fellow lying and cheating liberal skunk buddies at ACORN.

dave| 10.25.10 @ 9:32AM

Oh, just wanted to add a couple of things.

If you assume that I read the Huffington Post, you're making a typical ideologue's mistake. I don't. The only time I see an article by HP is when I get there while researching a subject, just like I wound up here at The American Spectator while looking into the Williams' thing. You should be careful about making such mistakes because it just makes you look silly.

Two of my closest friends are staunch conservatives, one a member of the Tea Party Patriots (and yes, I've kidded him about calling himself a "patriot" too). They are bright, funny and successful (one is the CFO of a major regional insurance company, and the other a Captain in the intel branch of the Army). They know their shit and I like sparring with them because they're actually smart about the issues. Sparring with a knee-jerk right winger like you is just dull. You sir are the sludge at the bottom of the barrel. I will admit to having fun at your expense though.

Oh yeah, you bet I'm going to vote on Nov. 2. As it turns out, one of my votes will be for a Republican governor. Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it (because what you're smoking right now isn't working for you).

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 3:49PM

Whatever. I couldn't care less what a lying leftwing apologist like you does. You're a worthless dirtbag.

How do you know a liberal is lying?
His/her lips are moving.

Cheers!

dave| 10.25.10 @ 6:41PM

"Whatever".

Wow, that's a great comeback.

"
I couldn't care less what a lying leftwing apologist like you does. You're a worthless dirtbag".

Hey, you're the one who urged me to vote. Apparently you DO care what I do. Turns out that you have been wrong at every turn about me, and you've certainly got a lot of nerve to judge me based on a couple of posts. Frankly, I just think you're a blowhard and not the anger merchant that you pretend to be, but who knows? You might actually be screaming at the world from your Barcalounger.

"How do you know a liberal is lying?
His/her lips are moving".

Wow, that's original. And basically a rewriting of the oldest lawyer joke in the world. so here's one back at you?

What do you call a busload of dickhead Right Wingers at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start.

Poor "patriot" - bested at every turn by a poor widdle wiberal. How will you ever show your face at the Klan meeting. Oh wait - you don't have to.

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 7:26PM

Haha! I know I've beaten a loser liberal like a rented mule when they bust out the predictable "KLAN" or NAZI accusation! Fail. You lost.

You mean a klanner like your precious KKK democrat Robert Byrd, a onetime Grand Kleagle in the KKK? Yeah, sure. Democrats like you were the Klan, you were responsible for slavery, lynchings, segregations and Jim Crow laws, too, moron.You haven't changed, either; look at the way you treated Juan Williams! My party freed the slaves--nice try rewriting history, bonehead.

You've got nothing. Crawl back under the slimy rock you call home. Better get a job!

Cheers!

dave| 10.25.10 @ 8:53PM

"You mean a klanner like your precious KKK democrat Robert Byrd, a onetime Grand Kleagle in the KKK?"

Yep. CONSERVATIVE Dixiecrat. Fillibustered against the Civil Rights Bill. Voted to censure Clinton. Bashed gays. About the only things that he was "liberal" about was being pro-choice and voting against the invasion of Iraq.

"Yeah, sure. Democrats like you were the Klan, you were responsible for slavery, lynchings, segregations and Jim Crow laws, too, moron".

Boy, you must have the word moron saved as a cut 'n paste. But yes, Democrats were responsible for those things. CONSERVATIVE Democrats. Once again, you prove that conservativism is nothing more than a mean, reactionary political ideology. Political party has nothing to do with it.

"My party freed the slaves--nice try rewriting history, bonehead".

Ahhh, a new epithet. You're branching out. Yes, your party freed the slaves. When did I "rewrite history"? The answer? Never. You're losing the plot.

"Haha! I know I've beaten a loser liberal like a rented mule when they bust out the predictable "KLAN" or NAZI accusation"!

The only one who has mentioned Nazis is you. You lose.

Again.

Damn, sparring with you is like sparring with a blind, one-armed man.

Now, prove that you're a patriot and join the Infantry like I did.

"You've got nothing. Crawl back under the slimy rock you call home. Better get a job"!

And you can't read either. A plus.

Patriot| 10.25.10 @ 10:40PM

You conveniently failed to mention your hackeyed "KLAN" accusation, libtard. Why is that? Because you lost the argument, because moronic liberals like you bleat KKK and NAZI everytime you're losing an argument. You lose.

Your party has the ugly memory of Klan violence, not mine. Nice try though. Of course, I can understand why you'd want to run away from the memories of the horrific savagery you democrats visited upon Black Americans. I would be deeply ashamed if I were you, too. But then, I could never be as mean and cruel as you and the nasty varmint, Nina Totenberg.

Cheers!

Patriot| 10.26.10 @ 1:08AM

******hackeyed = hackneyed******

dave| 10.26.10 @ 1:38PM

"Your party has the ugly memory of Klan violence, not mine".

Tell that to David Duke (who was a Democrat for a short period of his life until he "found the light"). Or you might ask Karen Pack.

"Of course, I can understand why you'd want to run away from the memories of the horrific savagery you democrats visited upon Black Americans".

Who's running away from it? Not me. Heck, you dodn't even mention Hugo Black. What's wrong with you?

You make the idiotic mistake of forgetting that it isn't about "Democrats" or "Republicans", it's about *conservativism". You might take a look at the voting record for the Democratic inititive, The Civil Rights Act of 1964. Not a single southern Republican voted for it. And a bunch of northern Republicans also voted against it. It's *you* who is running away from that fact, ignoring that it's modern conservativism that breeds organizations like the modern Klan. Which is why I say that you'd fit in just fine at a Klan meeting, especially since you can spew invective from behind a sheet.

"But then, I could never be as mean and cruel as you and the nasty varmint, Nina Totenberg".

You have to be kidding. Just look at the trail of invective and meanness you've spewed in this conversation. Look in the mirror, buddy.

BTW, I'll see your Nina Totenberg and raise you Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

Now, run off to the military recruiter and prove your patriotism.

Slainte!

Patriot| 10.27.10 @ 1:47AM

Poor widdle liberal--did I hurt your tender feelings? Don't be so sensitive,baby. Be a big tough guy like Joy "B1tch" Behar. Truth hurts. You are the party of slavery, segregation and Jim Crow.

You're lying about The Civil Rights Act, loser. It was your favorite democrat klanner Senator Robert Byrd who filibustered the legislation until REPUBLICAN Senator Everett Dirksen intervened to help pass the bill.

There was only one republican senator from the South--who voted with the 18! democrat senators to stop the Civil Rights legislation.

1 southern Republican senator vs 18! Democrats who fought Civil Rights legislation. You're a filthy liar, which further proves the saying, "How do you know when a liberal like "dave" is lying?
He posts a comment.
LOSER!

Haha! David Duke, an ex-democrat who became a klanner when he was a democrat. Further proof that democrats are the party of fascists and racists. Who is Karen Pack? Probably one of your dirtbag fantasies.

That's it? That's all you got? Weak, libtard.

dave| 10.27.10 @ 2:25AM

"You're lying about The Civil Rights Act, loser. It was your favorite democrat klanner Senator Robert Byrd who filibustered the legislation until REPUBLICAN Senator Everett Dirksen intervened to help pass the bill.

There was only one Republican senator from the South--who voted with the 18! democrat senators to stop the Civil Rights legislation".

Where did I lie?

First of all, you're wrong. There were TWENTY Southern Demos that voted against it, not 18. Second, the only southern Republican Senator voted against it. That means that no southern Republican Senators voted against it. And, the last time I checked, Illinois isn't a southern state, so it's irrelevant whether the great Senator dirkson voted for it. I only said that a lot of northern Republican voted against it. 29 Senators and Representatives to be exact, opposed to only 10 Northern Senators and Representatives.

Also, 8 Southern Democrats in the House and Senate voted for it, as opposed to exactly ZERO southern Republicans. Facts suck, don't they?

Looks like the conservative has his facts wrong and is willing to distort what I wrote, which is typical for the dishonest side of the Conservative movement (not a diss on HONEST Conservatives). Turns out that it's YOU who's the filthy liar. Bummer for you.

"Haha! David Duke, an ex-democrat who became a klanner when he was a democrat".

And decided that the Republican party was more his cup of tea (pun intended). Ha!

Personally, I have nothing against Republicans when they are reasonable. That would figure, since I'm not a Democrat (I hold some of their views but disagree with some of them as well). Of course, I'm not a Republican either (don't have much in common with their views). I'm not even a Libertarian, although I hold some of their views. I also fought against Communists, so I'm not one of them either.

Unlike you, I don't swallow the party line.

Patriot| 10.27.10 @ 5:09AM

BS. You swallow the Marxist party-line hook, line and sinker, troll. I knew you were a liberal toad when you tried to pull the predictable klanner gambit on me. Next you were going to call me a Nazi. Liberals like you always hurl nasty names when you're beat. You got nothin' else.
You're lazy AND you're a klan loving clown, just like Ninny Totenberg and your hero, Grand Kleagle Byrdy.

Don't cry now, widdle baby. So glad a big bad libtard like you is protecting me from all of the monsters out there in the evil world. I feel a whole lot safer now!

Patriot| 10.27.10 @ 5:22AM

Actually, you're a mealy-mouthed moderate. You stand for nothing.

What a man!

dave| 10.28.10 @ 2:01PM

Boy, you got nothing. but lies and John Birch party-line bullshit. Continue cowering in the corner, afraid of your own shadow.

"Liberals like you always hurl nasty names when you're beat".

You've been hurling nasty names since the first time. So you admit that you've been beat like a three-legged racehorse. Cool.

"Don't cry now, widdle baby"

So desperate that it's down to plagiarism now.

"So glad a big bad libtard like you is protecting me from all of the monsters out there in the evil world. I feel a whole lot safer now"!

Finally some truth. You're welcome.

"You got nothin' else".

Funny coming from the guy/gal who can't address the painful facts about his/her ideology. Can't come to grips that his/her hero Goldwater voted against and actively opposed the Civil Rights Bill and played on fear in a losing bid for the presidency. It's a shame that the only conservatives involved in civil rights were on the other side of the water cannon, attack dogs and guns. Just as southern Democrats have an enormous amount to answer for, so to the spineless conservatives who couldn't bother to get their hands dirty like liberal Democrats of both north and south did.

"Actually, you're a mealy-mouthed moderate. You stand for nothing".

So now you admit your defeat. You've been wrong about EVERYTHING. You've used lies, invective and spleen to attempt to hold your own and you've finally seen the light. Congratulations. I know it's painful when the truth hits you, but hopefully you'll get over it. You were kind of slow getting to the truth, but maybe if you eat more fish, you'll get brighter.

"What a man"!

Awww shucks - I'm just a guy who loves his country enough to put my life on the line for it. Plus, I can probably still field-strip a .50cal Browning in my sleep. That in itself dates me .

dave| 10.27.10 @ 2:35AM

PS, you forget that it was actually a Democrat, Humphrey, who actually led the breaking of the fillibuster, along with Dirksen (and Mansfield, another Democrat and Kuchel, a Republican). and you forget that the Republican Senator Russell from Georgia, was the Republican who helped in the fillibuster. and you completely forget that it was a Democratic president who started the process and his successor who manhandled both houses of Congress to assure its passage. So, in a way, it was a Democrat who freed the slaves a second time. Redemption time, and a slap in the face to my fellow southerners who passed the atrocious Jom Crow laws,killed civil rights workers and generally acted like scum, people who I hold in lower esteem than even you.

Oh wait, you probably didn't forget any of that - you just pulled a Stalin and rewrote history to suit your own needs.

Patriot| 10.27.10 @ 5:15AM

You're the one who first mis-represented the truth, toad.

And it was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who lost his life fighting to save Black Americans from the savagery of Democrats. Now, that was heroism.

Take your klanner BS and shove it.

Patriot| 10.27.10 @ 5:19AM

And Republicans like Dirksen helped Democrats pass the Civil Rights laws--unlike Southern Democrats who killed to keep slavery.

dave| 10.27.10 @ 9:22AM

"And Republicans like Dirksen helped Democrats pass the Civil Rights laws--unlike Southern Democrats who killed to keep slavery".

Yes, CONSERVATIVE assholes. You keep ignoring that. I wonder why you keep denying the heritage of your ideology. It was liberals like Rabbi James Wax of Memphis who stood arm in arm with other liberals, black civil rights supporters and Dr. Martin Luther King. The conservatives in both parties were nowhere to be seen. they either were cowards or they just didn't care or think it was important.

"You're the one who first mis-represented the truth, toad".

Wrong. But even it it were true, which it isn't, your statement admits that you are a liar. You might want to reread your own statement .

"And it was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who lost his life fighting to save Black Americans from the savagery of Democrats. Now, that was heroism."

No doubt. Lincoln is a hero to me. But you keep using the term "Democrats" when you should be saying southern Democrats. Your ideology has blinded you and made you tar everyone with the same brush.

Take your klanner BS and shove it".

What's wrong? Hit a little close to home? Are you washing your sheets right now or something?

dave| 10.27.10 @ 9:40AM

"But you keep using the term "Democrats" when you should be saying southern Democrats" and "conservatives".

And even more importantly, you should be saying "some southern Democrats" (and more than a few Republicans as well, because, if you think that there were no Republican racists in the south as well, you're incredibly blind and stupid).

There were plenty of liberal Democrats who fought the insanity of southern racism; people like the brave John Seigenthaler, who fought not only bigots and actually shed blood in that cause, but also took on Jimmy Hoffa. You might take his example and realize that both parties have things to answer for.

Your silence on the legacy of conservatism in institutionalized slavery and racism and hatred is staggering.

PS, to bring this back to williams - you DO know that his son worked for one of those people that you decry, the Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond, who once said, " I wanna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there's not enough troops in the army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigra race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches". Fortunately, not only did he, like Byrd, finally come around and realize how wrong he had been, he ended up letting the very people who he used to hate into his bedroom!

SECUNT| 1.12.11 @ 7:14AM

roger ailes is a POS

Jonah| 4.5.11 @ 10:57PM

Roger Ailes has beaten your liberal asses and you're mad. LMAO!

Byrd and Thurmond were both Democrats--sorry.

Admit it: Democrats created slavery, Jim Crow laws and segregation. It's YOUR legacy--Lincoln is OURS.

Jonah| 4.5.11 @ 10:59PM

Democrats are responsible for the scourge of slavery period. Liberals like you always try to pass the blame for your evil ways.

Jonah| 4.5.11 @ 11:06PM

You democrats are still killing today--you've murdered 50 million babies, prick.

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