The Orange County Register has a
must-read from Gabriel Calzada, the Madrid econ prof who
responded with research to President Obama audaciously, serially
citing Spain as his lead model for centrally planning the US
economy. I treat how he was treated in response, in
Power Grab.
What Calzada addresses is California’s consideration
of Proposition 23, to delay its ‘world’s first’ global warming
law which oddly looks an awful lot like those trains wrecks piling
up around Europe, like Spain (such that, as Calzada notes,
this talking point is possibly to distract people from actually
examining the result where it has been tried, after Obama’s
embarrassment).
Which is also a nice example of the candor these people employ
to get their way. Sort of like all of those interests standing to
profit on the California’s back as this suicidal policy
(‘Assembly Bill 32’) drags the bankrupt state further down
toward a federal taxpayer bailout, shrieking that anyone who
supports delaying the scheme might have an economic interest in
that position. Like, say, they employ people and have long-term
capital investments in California and don’t feel like having those
costs stranded by a political class that’s proven it’s not up to
handling issues to which emotional campaigns are applied.
Jim| 10.17.10 @ 9:52AM
Can someone teach Chris Horner how to write? I have no idea what he means, in this piece or most others he posts here.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.17.10 @ 11:47AM
Jim,
Let me make is simple for you to understand the article.
Spain Stupid...now broke.
California stupid...now broke.
Except for Texas holding bag...US now broke...and stupid.
WJ| 10.17.10 @ 12:45PM
Except for Texas which is receiving huge amounts of federal money through the military, NASA and numerous other federal redistribution agencies. The Lone Star state would be broke without the feds.
Booger | 10.17.10 @ 2:50PM
I checked with an acquaintance of mine (my younger brother) currently serving in Iraq, rank of E-6. He informs me if the military is a "federal redistribution agency" he must have missed his cut. Does "WJ" stand for "Whack Job" by any chance? Just curious.
Cordially,
Booger
Texas Mom 2010| 10.18.10 @ 8:44AM
I would be surprised if Texas received more in red funds than we pay in fed taxes...
Not to mention that if the Feds would get out of our business and let us drill, we wouldn't need them. Instead Texas oil shales are being sold to China! And west Texas is overrun with those stupid incredibly ugly noisy wind farms while Feds caused such regulatory nightmares that no new nuke power plants have been built since the 70s.
If the Feds would enforce the border Texas could probably finance NASA on our own....
believer| 10.17.10 @ 6:20PM
Ken(Old Texican)-Please come to California and run for Govenor, you have my vote.
PattyMor| 10.17.10 @ 12:11PM
I'll add: Illinois stupid: Illinois broke
Illinois Governors: mostly in jail or going to jail
Illinois keeps electing liberals, and keeps expecting different results.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.17.10 @ 12:58PM
WJ,
Do you truly enjoy parading your ignorance?
Heh, you really need to check your sources.
On the other hand do not.
Please do not join the three thousand Americans a month moving here for the low taxes, business friendly atmosphere, great manufacturing jobs, and the huge balance of trade surplus.
Texas Mom 2010| 10.18.10 @ 8:57AM
AMEN! I don't want any more libs moving here!
Every blue state and blue city is a financial, educational and moral disaster... I do not want to import that here, we have enough trouble dealing with the costs of out of control illegal immigration.
Enlightened One| 10.17.10 @ 3:29PM
I love how crazy right-wingers just don't check their facts or sources. Gabriel Calzada is a thoroughly discredited man -- even by conservatives in Spain. This guy's not my cup of tea (he's a hamiltonian scalia type) but he pretty much sets the record straight about Calzada, not to mention the fact that Calzada's own students question his résumé.
The article is in spanish but basically Calzada receives public subsidies for his work from the Madrid regional government, lies about his work, and can't speak English as well as he claims to on his resume.
I wish there were more respectable conservatives around like this guy who actually says the truth rather than the libertarian ron paul/conspiracy nut types.
http://liberalismodemocratico......-mentiras/
Nick| 10.17.10 @ 5:56PM
The only people "thoroughly discredited" on this subject are Lil' Jimmy Hansen, Mikey Mann, and the gang of lying hoaxers at East Anglia, thanks to the ClimateGate e-mails.
Chris Horner| 10.18.10 @ 1:48PM
Where to begin with ritual non-rebuttal rebuttals? How about the Spanish socialist government, which also tried going down the ad hom route, privately admitted Calzada was right. Like that Clinton aide who testified he was lying to his diary but telling the committee the truth, these guys were probably lying in their internal presentations and telling the press the truth... See here and go to the PPT http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/l.....xclusive/. You read Spanish so you'll see they think the job losses are probably a little higher than the Calzada team found. And here on the effort to discredit the study, before the embarassing socialist admission was leaked, http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/b.....een-jobs/, if well after that April 2009 Royal Decree affirming its conclusions. But you're right. Avoiding substance in favor of ad hom is convincing. To college students.
Patriot| 10.17.10 @ 3:45PM
We already know the truth--the Eco-Nazis are a joke!
PAco| 10.17.10 @ 3:47PM
Spain is the ninth largest world economy and the sixth largest world investor. Just before the crisis hit, in 2007 it was the 4th major investor in the US and the second in the UK. It has world class multinationales like Banco Santander, Iberdrola, Telefonica, Zara, eight out of the ten world largest infrastructure companies and so on. And, by the way, its budget and external deficitls are lower than in the US or the UK. So be informed before telling stupid things about countries you know nothing.
Purple Lips| 10.17.10 @ 6:59PM
Oh Yes,
Spain the land of the etnernal siesta; where 20% of the 18-20 year olds are prepetual students; a nation that must import tens of thousands of African Muslims each in order maintain a stable population; a nation that has a fertility rate of 1.1 children per female. A nation without a future - unless you consider Sharia a future.
Juan22| 10.17.10 @ 4:53PM
Spain's government according to economist.com http://www.economist.com/node/.....d=14973182 is attempting to euphemize its economic woes. Even PBS agrees: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb.....07-23.html It took me ten seconds to google this. Paco, I think this is real!
believer| 10.17.10 @ 6:30PM
Jerry Brown is relying on younger voters who actually believe what he say's, Im old enough to remember when he took office there was a surplus and when he left we were in debt 800 million. Space doesnt allow the lies he's telling about his time as Govenor, dont take my word, look it up.
R Martin| 10.18.10 @ 9:36AM
And now he's running again and appears to be leading in the polls. What's his campaign slogan, "More Of The Same"? If Californians elect Brown again their subsequent pleas for a federal taxpayer bailout should be resolutely ignored.
Saint| 10.17.10 @ 9:41PM
Jim's right. Horner’s prose is often impenetrable and detracts from what otherwise would be good stuff.
Metoo| 10.18.10 @ 9:33AM
Enlightened One,
So you link to basically a troll (if you had an idea of the Spanish blogosphere you'd know), and this proves what, exactly?
They guy only says that the Calzada study is full of errors, full stop. He doesnt even mention one or support the allegation by one single fact.
So nice try trying to generalize from an example from the fringe to make a point knowing that most readers here can't understand Spanish. Nice try, but ultimately failed.
Enlightened One| 10.18.10 @ 10:55AM
@metoo: Actually if you used google translate you'd see there are links to English sites that disprove calzada's so called "study". It's not my fault right wingers in general aren't cultured enough to know languages. Oh and I do know "something" about the blogosphere in spain as Im german living in Spain. Nice try but you're the one who failed to learn how to read.
Tim| 10.18.10 @ 12:45PM
40 years ago I learned in elementary school that California, once a great desert, had been transformed by Americans into a wonderland of civilization and a producer of foodstuffs for the whole world.
Now it seems that we are transforming her back into a desert and feeling quite proud of it.