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A few months ago, a friend suggested to me that Mitt Romney’s supporters were involved in certain behind-the-scenes maneuvers as part of an effort to stack the deck in Romney’s favor in advance of the 2012 presidential campaign. And these supporters, it was said, are especially concerned about thwarting any effort by Sarah Palin to get the 2012 GOP nomination.

That came to mind as I was reflecting on the stunning vehemence of some Republican attacks on Christine O’Donnell. Something else that came to mind: The 2012 primary calendar.

Sarah Palin endorsed Kelly Ayotte, who won a narrow victory in the New Hampshire GOP Senate primary. Palin’s endorsement was also credited with securing Sharron Angle’s win in Nevada (which holds Jan. 28 caucuses in 2012) and with lifting Nikki Haley to victory in the Republican gubernatorial primary in South Carolina (2012 primary, Jan. 28), which has been a make-or-break state for GOP presidential candidates since 1980.

Delaware — where Palin’s endorsement gave a decisive boost to O’Donnell — is a Feb. 7 “Super Tuesday” state.

The ferocity of some attacks on O’Donnell may therefore reflect the resentment of Romney supporters toward the success of yet another Palin-endorsed candidate in an early 2012 primary state. And it may be that post-primary naysaying about O’Donnell’s chances in the Delaware general election represents an effort of the Romneyites to prevent one of Mama Grizzly’s candidates from getting a Nov. 2 victory.

Palin Derangement Syndrome has been known to make people . . . well, “nutty.”

topics:
Sarah Palin, U.S. Senate Races 2010

View all comments (238) |

ggoblue| 9.16.10 @ 3:07AM

sarah will also hold IOU's from the governors of iowa, california, and texas....

ml| 9.16.10 @ 5:29AM

I hope Sarah Palin will run for President in 2012. I don't want to see Mitt Romney run. Romney is not conservative. If Romney does get the nominee, the Republican Party lose the election. Palin has doing well helping these candidates this year.

JFGalt| 9.16.10 @ 1:34PM

Mitt Who?

richard mcenroe | 9.16.10 @ 3:40PM

Some politician from the last century.

Raymond| 9.16.10 @ 4:18PM

The main agenda of Obama team is to deceive the majority of Americans that Sarah Palin is unelectable. These groups include PPP, CNN, ABC, CBS and some inner core GOP that are receiving under the table monies from Obama camps. This is Chicago style Mafia strategy.. Americans must learn a lesson well from the result of 2008 POTUS election. THE REALITY SHOW IS SARAH PALIN IS A VIABLE GOP CANDIDATE ON 2012, and the primary results are clear evidence. Obama camps, Palin's enemies, lamestream media and Romney's camp are all pushing for Romney....a sure loser against Obama in 2012 POTUS. My advice is DO NOT BE DECEIVE AGAIN...the future of young american children depends on how wise majority of americans vote on 2010 and 2012.

Rednip| 6.17.11 @ 5:25PM

I know that "The reality show is Sarah Palin...", is a typo, but you could not have been closer to the truth.

Mrs Palin will not run for office again. If you want you can go to Sara Pac and donate for her next family vacation, but you won't see her out campaigning for herself ever again.

It's always about 'doom and gloom' for 'conservatives', eh.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 6:24PM

Cal Jillson, a political scientist at Southern Methodist University in Dallas said "Palin is playing the role of kingmaker in the republican primaries. She can move people to look at a candidate that voters might not otherwise have noticed but that doesn't mean she is necessarily a strong candidate for President."

PALIN 2012| 9.16.10 @ 11:46PM

Who is Cal Jillson and why should we care what he says?

yarrrr| 9.16.10 @ 6:25AM

"Palin's endorsement was also credited with securing Sharron Angle'"

Palin didn't endorse Sharron Angle before the primary...

Dan| 9.16.10 @ 2:19PM

Not on facebook, but she put out tweets and was in contact with Angle. Her father became close with Danny Tarkanian who was also running and she did not want to stomp on him since he is a good guy.

Raymond| 9.16.10 @ 4:22PM

yarr... Sarah Palin did endorse Sharron Angle before the primaries in Nevada. Please refresh your memory. Palin and Angle, in fact, were in the same photo when Palin visited Nevada this year.

brock| 9.16.10 @ 8:10AM

Palin was also late in supporting Haley. Romney supported her early, from the very beginning in fact, in March.

Furthermore, Romney and Palin have endorsed the same candidate more often than not. And, more often than not, Palin's endorsement of the mutually supported candidate comes after Romney's endorsment.

When asked at a Tea Party rally of the prospect of a Mitt Romney - Sarah Palin ticket, she said it sounds good to her. Meanwhile, Romney's only ever said positive things about Palin.

There is no real divide or behind the scenes warfare going on. Competition, sure. But deck stacking and smearing, please. I don't even think Palin will even run, but if she does I doubt she stands much a chance to win the nomination because she is too divisive and, frankly, unaccomplished, the latter of which makes her our Obama. Not that she'd be a worse President than he is, of course, but the point is Republicans simply don't make that mistake of letting a noobie streak to the top without achieving things first.

But I do think she, like Newt and Huckabee, is more than thrilled to be prospering in the fringe of the debate rather than in the trenches of public life. If Palin or Huckabee the celebrities fade, then they will be back running for office. If Fox keeps them employed and out there, then they won't in my opinion. So maybe Murdoch's a Romney guy?

Ryan| 9.16.10 @ 8:41AM

Romney is most certainly trying to "stack the deck," - he's already trying to buy off straw polls (like down in New Orleans earlier).

David| 9.16.10 @ 12:28PM

That's ridiculous Ryan and you know it. Mitt had nothing to do with the SRLC results. The organization you're thinking of is Evangelicals for Mitt which has NO actual ties to Mitt Romney.

Dan| 9.16.10 @ 2:21PM

Romney endorses Haley and she stayed in 3rd place. Palin endorsed her and she rocketed to first place. Romney has his surrogates go out and trash Sarah saying she is UNSERIOUS etc, then Mitt comes out when there is a huge backlash.

Raymond| 9.16.10 @ 4:29PM

I totally agreed with your comment, Dan. When Sarah Palin started to endorse Nikki Haley, she was suddenly on the top based on surveys. When Haley was attacked for some adultery issues, Sarah Palin was always beside her back defending her, and Romney?? This guy is nowhere to find and in hiding avoiding such issue against Haley. Is this(Romney) the kind of leader America wants?? Always hiding and sitting in the fence when he smell troubles??

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 7:44PM

Saying that Romney has surrogates who go out and trash Sarah Palin - saying she is unserious - is a completely fallacious statement. After Mccain and Palin became the Republican ticket, there was NO ONE - one from the former field of candidates - who campaigned harder for McCain/Palin than Mitt Romney. Romney KNEW an Obama presidency would be a disaster.

Hiding? Sitting "in" [sic] the fence? Romney stuck with Haley and defended her the entire time. He donated money to her campaign and spoke out in her defense.

Romney doesn't hide. You don't want to go down that road... on who hides.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 1:04AM

Give me a break! Romney is the king of hiders.
Unfortunately for you Romneybots, we're going to keep going down that long, long road. LOL

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:17PM

Wrong. lol. Look in your own backyard... if you can find her.

Rednip| 6.17.11 @ 5:30PM

Romney also 'knew' that the auto companies needed to go bankrupt rather than bailing them out. He'll have a hard time winning in the state where his father was a popular governor this time around.

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 3:22PM

YAY for Evangelicals for Mitt!

Cindy| 9.16.10 @ 5:46PM

Brock, I beg to differ with you on Sarah having no accomplishments. She was elected to the City Council in Wasilla, AK. She was mayor of Wasilla,AK. She was elected as the youngest and first female governor of AK.
How can you compare her accomplishments to that of our Community Organizer President?
There is no comparison...she far out shines our current POTUS.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 8:14AM

Romney epitomizes the Republican Ruling Class Elite and he's swimming against a tsumani of voter fury this election cycle. He can hide all he wants, but we all know he's a big time establishment RINO.

Myth's going to have to come out from behind that rock sometime. lol

JFGalt| 9.16.10 @ 1:35PM

BINGO!

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 8:19AM

brock: One word for you--ROMNEYCARE. Good luck trying to whitewash that little Romney disaster.

Romney doesn't offer us a choice in 2012: Why vote for democrat-lite when you can vote for the real thing? Didn't we learn our lesson with RINO McCain in 2008?

David| 9.16.10 @ 12:39PM

So if Romney is democrat-lite, can you tell what policies he and Palin differ on Brooke? Please tell me.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:01PM

Who knows? Flip-flopper Romney changes directions more than a weather-vane in a hurricane.

Palin would never have authored a government takeover of healthcare in her state--at least I know that for sure.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 2:04PM

The "flip flopper" label is what those who refused to support a mormon hid behind. They didn't want to have to admit they were religious bigots.

What politician hasn't changed his mind when coming to new awareness or knowledge?

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 2:06PM

Palin changed her mind about completing her term as governor. I guess that makes her more of a quitter then a flip flopper.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 4:10PM

Romney was pro-life until he saw it as a liability, then he became pro-abortion--or was it the other way around? Who knows? Romney changes direction more than a weather-vane in a category 5 hurricane.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 5:40PM

Governor Romney was labeled a flip flopper because he changed his position on abortion. He openly admitted that he was wrong on this issue. It is rare to find a politician that will admit he was wrong but that is what Governor Romney did. He showed great character.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 1:01AM

Romney's wrong a lot; we can't afford to run another RINO elitist like McCain. There's too much at stake.

ELECT PALIN 2012

Raymond| 9.16.10 @ 4:39PM

Tracey,
I would suggest you have to learn first to think outside of the box before commenting against Palin as a quitter. NOT ALL QUITTERS ARE FAILED LEADERS. A morally principled leader quits when he or she sees something which are immorally right within a corrupt system. A very effective employee quits his job for a greener pastures. Most of poor employees are not quitters because they cannot find better jobs elsewhere. PALIN HAS QUIT HER JOB AS GOVERNOR FOR A BETTER PURPOSE THAT WILL SERVE BEST AMERICA'S INTEREST. Her action for quitting the job has been justified as we can see the GOP primary results: Haley, Paul, Angle, Carly, Ayotte, O'Donnell, West, etc. etc.etc

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 5:46PM

I would suggest that Palin supporters think outside the box when labeling Mitt Romney a flip flopper. He showed great character in stepping up to the plate and admitting he was wrong on the abortion issue.

Mitt Romney is working hard to help the GOP win the House / Senate.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:59AM

Mitt's always admitting he's wrong on issues; that's not courageous, that's just weak!

Tracey| 9.17.10 @ 1:25PM

It takes courage to say your wrong and it shows strength of character.

On the other hand, it does not take courage to QUIT!

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:20PM

Spin, spin, spin. She won't win...

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 7:49PM

Slamming the Governor's office door and leaving Alaskans in the lurch is just about as big a politcal flip-flop as you can get. I was sorry to see Sarah do it. She should have stuck it out.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:57AM

At least Palin didn't bankrupt her state like Romney did. Unfortunately for Mass., Mitt did stick it out!

Tracey| 9.17.10 @ 1:23PM

Romney left Mass. with a surplus when he left office. That is on a TRUE FACT and FACTS don't lie. Too bad you don't want to see the truth.

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:21PM

Romney came into MA with a THREE BILLION $ deficit. He balanced MA's budget every year. Phenomenal.

You should get educated. Read. Learn.

Dan| 9.16.10 @ 2:23PM

david that is easy. Romney is on video saying he does not want to go back to reagan. He just became pro life when he wanted to run for POTUS. He says "I LIKE MANDATES" when referring to healthcare mandates. He said so in a primary debate in 2008. Sarah Palin disagrees with all of these things.

Roger| 9.16.10 @ 8:30AM

Myth Romney, LOL. So very good.

Samuel| 9.16.10 @ 8:57AM

. MITT ROMNEY

--Romney is a PROGRESSIVE!

--No difference between government run forced to buy insurance state RomneyCare and Fed ObamaCare gov’t care-one is currently bankrupting Massachusetts and the other will bankrupt our nation.

--A Recycled George Hamilton look alike sans the tan with a sprayed on fake smile.

--Romney is as arrogant as Obama

--Re-Tread Romney (couldn't win against McCain and thinks he can win a country)

--RINO = Republican in Name Only = MA Universal Care is bankrupting MA and flip flopped on abortion.

-Elegant Snake Oil Salesman

--Romney is the epitome of what the Tea-Party movement is Against

---If Romney is the general election candidate, he will face hostility from independent voters, who value authenticity

David Pulsfus| 9.16.10 @ 12:51PM

Samuel, you are just plain wrong on almost everything you say. Let's look at the facts:

- MassCare is NOT bankrupting Massachusetts. Plus, the increased costs are from changes the current governor and state legislature have made since Romney left. Do some research, don't just spew out what sounds catchy. http://bit.ly/93zO1C

- If you can't see the difference between a state program and a federal program, I am probably already wasting my time by answering you.

- Reagan changed his mind on abortion. He must have been a progressive too huh?

- Arrogant? How do you know? Have you personally spent time with him?

- You clearly haven't been looking at any current polls if you say that he will face hostility from independent voters. Mitt has the highest support from independents of any of the other potential GOP 2012 candidates (and much, much higher than Palin's support btw).

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:09PM

Oh, I see; the exploding costs and unsustainability of RomneyCare are the current Governor's fault. Nice, real nice. You Romney RINOs are weak.

State programs and Federal programs are both GOVERNMENT programs, moron. RINOs like you don't have a clue.

Face it, Romney's swimming against a Conservative tsumani--he won't be nominated.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 2:10PM

If Romney does not get the nomination then the party purist will give four more years to Obama. "Palin can't win in a sea of moderates." Romney can. Romney is fiscally conservative and he appeals to moderates. Palin turns them off. I see it all around me.

Dan| 9.16.10 @ 2:25PM

Actually a PPP poll found that Palin outperforms Obama among independents and are tied at 46 which means Obama loses.

A campaign with ads changes the numbers you fret about to much anyway.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 4:12PM

LOL!

Poor Tracy, I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 7:52PM

Poor Brooke. Has to resort to name-calling.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:55AM

Uh, I called her Tracy. That's name-calling?
Poor, delusional Romneybots are whining again.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 6:42PM

Here is a current poll: Palin is not favored for 2012. Even in Alaska.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.....AK_901.pdf

Mitt Romney leads in Alaska.

David| 9.17.10 @ 12:39AM

Well yeah, but let's be honest here, basically all republicans are ahead with independents right now because of the political atmosphere. Plus, there are less registered republicans than democrats which means that a majority of independents have to vote for them in order to win. I would expect Sarah to be leading Obama among independents right now. It would be much more of a shock if she wasn't.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:53AM

Sorry to break it to you trolls, but it's not a RINO year. Elitists like Mitt are going to take a beating--Castle just did.

David| 9.17.10 @ 12:21AM

Yes, the exploding costs are the current governor's fault because of changes HE made to the program Brooke. You can't refute that with any facts. The link I included before provides actual numbers into the costs of MassCare. I doubt you'll take a look though, because you probably don't want to risk being proven wrong with actual numbers.

What's your point about state and Federal programs both being government programs? Obviously you can generically call them both "government". The point is that there is no government run insurance with MassCare. Plus there's that thing called the 10th Amendment that allows states to do things like this, but not the Federal government. That's the difference. If you can't see that, you're the moron, not me.

Thanks for giving me a laugh by calling me a RINO though! Yes, I am a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, in favor of lower taxes and less spending, pro-military, anti-cap and tax, don't believe in global warming, anti-capital gains tax, evangelical Christian RINO. That's a good one, you really took the cake there!

My question is, what are you going to do when Sarah doesn't even run in 2012?

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:50AM

ROMNEYCARE = OBAMACARE. Sorry.

Not only will Palin run in 2012, she's going to be POTUS in 2012.

You're not much of a pro-lifer when you support a flip-flopping Pro-abort/Pro-lifer like Romney.
You never know which side he's going to take from one day to another.

David| 9.17.10 @ 1:17AM

Did you support Ronald Reagan or George H. W. Bush?

David| 9.17.10 @ 1:27AM

And again, what a state does and what the Federal government does, is completely different. If a state wants a program like MassCare, why shouldn't they be able to do it? On the other hand, the Federal government should never be able to force something like ObamaCare on the country.

Just out of curiosity, what do you propose we do about health insurance Brooke? Let's talk solutions.

JedMerrill| 9.16.10 @ 8:57AM

Romney has a question to answer about David French --- and few other questions. Romney comes in about 1/2 on this you tube.

Picking on a woman and kids, that is pretty low!

Mitt Romney and corruption in Livingston County

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss_5n7TXHWQ

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 8:59AM

MITT ROMNEY

--Romney Owns CPAC (Is it any wonder he won every year but 2010) Palin didn’t go
http://us4palin.com/why-gov-pa.....over-cpac/

LMAO!!!! Watch the video below
--There's a Bore in the Woods (LMAO) Palin beats him every time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOykmey7

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 9:01AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOykmey7-I
There is a BORE in the Woods

Apparently, Romney got the other link removed.

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 9:07AM

Type in YouTube
"There's a Bore in the Woods"
If the link doesn't work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOykmey7-I

Patriot| 9.16.10 @ 9:02AM

It doesn't surprise me a bit that Romney's people were behind the ugly vitriol toward O'Donnell; they've been doing it to Sarah Palin since December, 2008.

Sneaky

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 2:12PM

Romney has endorsed O'Donnell and donated money to her campaign.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 12:43AM

Yes, Mitt's endorsement arrived when he knew O'Donnell was a winner.

What courage, what leadership!

Tracey| 9.17.10 @ 1:34PM

Mitt was wise to allow to stay out of the primary. Palin is playing the role of KINGMAKER. I think her decision to endorse O'Donnell was reckless and impulsive, two qualities that I DO NOT want in a person who runs for PRESIDENT. Palin actions may well have cost us a SENATE seat and that has been noted by the Republican Establishment. I guess our DEAR SARAH is going ROUGE again.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 7:55PM

Lies. Romney helped McCain/Palin more than any other candidate during the pres race. He wore out shoe leather helping those two. You know it. I know it.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 12:41AM

Romney started launching sneak attacks against Palin right after the 2008 election.

You know it, I know it.

Tracey| 9.17.10 @ 1:41PM

Most recently Romney defended her to DAVID LETTERMAN.

J Wyatt| 9.17.10 @ 3:28PM

And, this is the thanks he gets for supporting her? Your accusation is paranoid and beyond nonsensical. Name names. Give sources.

Mittsinkstothebottom| 9.16.10 @ 9:03AM

Romney stack a deck? It is a typical style for Mitt. Anything underhanded, deceptive deceitful and evil --
Romney s mission in life is himself. anyone else is expendable.

David French and Mitt Romney --- how low can you go? Mitt sinks to the bottom of the barrel.

JedMerrill| 9.16.10 @ 9:07AM

Then go to You Tube and Google in --

The Politics of Mis-Conduct in Livingston County Michigan and its courts - Political Corruption?

Part 3 in a series
might as well not remove the link, it has been viewed all through Europe, and gabbed and put on webpages.

You can run Romney but you cannot hide -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss_5n7TXHWQ

Patriot| 9.16.10 @ 9:08AM

Mitt's mission in life is to be POTUS! I mean, he looks the part, right? Isn't that enough; it worked for Obama.

John| 9.16.10 @ 9:09AM

Mitt Romney
--Rightfully Threatened by Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOykmey7-I

--Limbaugh: Jeb and Romney “Hate” Palin (about 4 minutes in)
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....ng-effort-

JedMerrill| 9.16.10 @ 9:10AM

Joan - I would not laugh -- unless you laugh when children lives are damaged. People are not laughing who have viewed the tube. It would only be very cruel ones who do.

Patriot II| 9.16.10 @ 9:12AM

Mitt Romney Threatened by Palin

--Sarah Palin Trashers Are Mostly Ex-Romney People
http://wonkette.com/404240/sar.....ney-people

--Limbaugh-says-leaders-fear-her/?fbid=iATCpQe801Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 9:13AM

I used to like Jeb Bush, but his New England Blue Blood RINO bonafides have kicked in big time. Nauseating.

Thanks, but no thanks to you, too, buster.

Romney Stinks| 9.16.10 @ 9:15AM

--Romney astoundingly unpopular among young voters

--Romney is also quite unpopular among middle- and lower-middle class voters. In poll after poll, he leads among Republicans making more than $75,000 a year. He does poorly among those who make less.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01.....ef=opinion

Patriot| 9.16.10 @ 9:25AM

Yeah, but I don't want to make less!

David| 9.17.10 @ 1:23AM

Yeah, but you know who is popular with young voters? Ron Paul. And I really don't desire to have him win the nomination. Popularity with a certain age group shouldn't determine who we choose to run for president.

The only thing that matters is overall numbers and Romney has been leading or near the top of polls for 2012.

Jim| 9.16.10 @ 9:16AM

---GOP Leadership like Romney hate Palin
http://politics.nashvillepost......ate-palin/

Ann| 9.16.10 @ 9:16AM

Joan –
Below are some of the post comments for the you tube you commented on – no one is thinking it is funny --
1.UNLAWFUL MALICIOUS VINDICTIVE PERSECUTION

2.I can only re-iterate RWRamo----How sad----& what people will do-how LOW they'll stoop is shocking enough--BUT your own family??? Abuse on kids-[& their mum]---covered up?? THAT'S BEYOND TRAGIC!!---& the joke is 'THEY' expect people to have faith/trust in them--much like the 'war on terrorism'!! Do they think were ALL stupid?!

3. Sad, truly sad.

Romney is Obama Arrogant| 9.16.10 @ 9:17AM

Why the Rapper/Romney Saga Faded Quickly

The rapper claims Romney acted like an arrogant jerk (Romney IS ARROGANT EXACTLY like LIKE OBAMA is arrogant and-Republican leaders like Huckabee and others did NOT want Romney as a nominee in part because of this.)
Romney GRABBED the guy's shoulder (to get his attention) when the guy would NOT lift his seat into a sitting position because the rapper's reclined seat bothered Romney's dumb ass wife. The rapper was TRYING TO SLEEP. Too bad for Romney's wife.

Romney is a JERK and everyone knows it but gullible voters and this rapper is getting a bad rap because he is a rapper with a few tattoos and Romney looks like an aging George Hamilton sans the tan with a receding hairline

Romney is Obama Arragant| 9.16.10 @ 9:20AM

LOL!!! Thanks for posting!!!!!
Palin shooting Romney as a metaphor for beating him politically is PRICELESS!

There's a Bore in the Woods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOykmey7-I

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 9:30AM

Hmmmm, Palinbots. Interesting.
Looks like the 2012 election cycle is starting.

GO SARAH!!

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:24AM

I like Palin but her support of a progressive RINO like Juan McShame (John McCain) in AZ was a huge blunder.

Mitt Romney is an even BIGGER RINO than Juan McShame. There is no way in HELL I would ever vote for him.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 11:36AM

Palin's support for McCain was a personal matter, she felt she owed him. I respect her for her loyalty.

Romney doesn't have Palin's integrity, and it shows.

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:42AM

I lost respect for her. She placed PARTY loyalty above the best interests of Arizona and this country.

John McCain -
a. Willing and ABLE to Thrown Gun Rights Under the Bus
www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2455683/posts

b. Was Pro Cap and Trade when he was not against it.
www.seattletimes.nwsource.com/.....in13m.html

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:43AM

I lost respect for her. She placed PARTY loyalty above the best interests of Arizona and this country.

McCain has not only supported amnesty, he wrote the Amnesty bill! ...
www.examiner.com/x-21818-Virgi.....ed-amnesty

d. Weakened our FREEDOM OF SPEECH by passing McCain/Feinstein Campaign Reform- Thank GOD the Supreme Court overturned it. .

e Weakened America’s Defenses by wanting to close GITMO

f. Weakened America Defenses by stopping enhanced interrogations

e. He flipped on the abortion issue

f. McCain VOTED FOR the TARP BAILOUT filled with those pesky earmarks he is so against

---PROGRESSIVE-ALERT = IS AN OPEN BORDER ADVOCATE www.michellemalkin.com/2008/01.....institute/

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:47AM

John McCain’s face plastered a Rhinoceros
http://angrywhitedude.com/?p=4282

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:48AM

I lost respect for her. She placed PARTY loyalty above the best interests of Arizona and this country.

----During a town hall meeting at a North Scottsdale library, a man named Richard Martin railed against McCain, saying: “We all know what happened after 9/11. Why didn’t you close this border down? Where were you, Senator?” In McCain’s 2010 campaign, the most commonly asked question was why he supported amnesty for illegal aliens. McCain’s answer…“I never supported amnesty.”
WHAT? As one of the keynote speakers at the 2004 conference, he told the zealous crowd: "It is in our national interest to bring the 8 to 12 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and allow them an opportunity to become citizens of this great nation."
Of course, McCain has not only supported amnesty, he wrote the Amnesty bill! ...
www.examiner.com/x-21818-Virgi.....ed-amnesty

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:49AM

I lost respect for her. She placed PARTY loyalty above the best interests of Arizona and this country.

---No pork for McCain??
McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.
It all depends on what your definition if is IS:
"You can have an issue with what the Rehnquist bill says, but it has gone through exactly the process that should be followed," said Pablo Chavez, general counsel to Mr. McCain. "It doesn't have the marks of an earmark."
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/.....n-earmark/

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:50AM

I lost respect for her. She placed PARTY loyalty above the best interests of Arizona and this country.

---In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona.

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:52AM

I lost MORE respect for Palin after she stumped for McCain AFTER HE threw her and her family under the bus and supported Obama DURING the 2008 campaign.

Defended Obama during the 2008 Campaign while Throwing Palin under the bus

Video ONE Booed: McCain Booed For Calling Obama A "Decent Man You Don't Have To Be Afraid Of"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTMloaj6b68

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:53AM

I lost respect for Palin for endorsing McCain

John McCain
---Laid down like a lamb to slaughter during the campaign - Total Wimp
---RINO = Republican In Name Only
----The most inept candidate for the presidency since Bob Dole
Voters do NOT forget how McCain's fat dirt bag of a daughter went around TRASHING Palin and HER FAMILY on every liberal network. Meagan McCain touted herself as a PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN. Megan McCain was following up the Palin trashing McCain and Romney already did. Romney was 2012. ... the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
He flipped on abortion
He flipped on the border fence
He flipped on amnesty
He flipped on Cap and Tax
He flipped on giving illegal’s an AZ driver's license
HE is a LIAR when it comes to gun rights
Even BECK calls him a progressive

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:17PM

I understand your point, I also understand why Palin supported McCain. BTW, I can't stand him either.

What do you mean, "even Beck?" Beck detests Progressives.

Now, don't go all bonkers on me again, okay?

David| 9.17.10 @ 12:44AM

Just to point it out, Mitt only endorsed McCain AFTER Juan publicly asked for his support. I guess you could say it was a "personal matter" Brooke :)

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 12:42PM

It was hypocritical for Palin supporters to HATE anyone who supported Scozzafava, but then as soon as Palin endorsed AYOTTE, nothing was said about it at all. You do realized AYOTTE was a Scozzafava supporter, do you not?

Jonah| 9.16.10 @ 1:54PM

What hate? You're projecting again.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 2:19PM

And you, sir, are dodging the hypocrite question.

Jonah| 9.16.10 @ 4:14PM

There was no hate so your question is pointless.

hrh| 9.16.10 @ 9:56AM

Brooke: Palinbots?

You make the case for how Romney is like Obama.

Obama's followers also do not answer legitimate policy challenges of their guy. They resort to insults.

Just like you.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 10:28AM

Easy, now, hrh--I'm on YOUR side, I just don't like your style.

I'm a huge Palin fan and your immature, gotcha posts are embarrassing me. You mention Obama's folks don't answer legitimate policy challenges, they just resort to insults--how are you any different ?

You made my point for me. Sarah deserves better.

David| 9.17.10 @ 1:14AM

I agree with you here Brooke, Sarah does deserve better. Do you think your vicious attacks on us Romney supporters is helping her out? I don't have anything against Sarah, I agree with her on 99% of the issues. But you calling me a moron, RINO (seems to be your insult of choice), etc., makes me want to support her less. I am just responding to YOUR attacks against my candidate of choice and haven't said anything negative about Sarah Palin.

I don't have a personal vendetta against Palin, I just feel that based on his experiences and beliefs, Mitt Romney is extremely well-qualified to be POTUS. We need someone who has experience turning things around (because this country needs it!), someone who thoroughly understands the economy because they have been an active part of it, someone who understands the importance of the family, someone who has creatively and successfully addressed problems, and someone with executive experience. We have all of those things in Mitt Romney. That's why I think he should be our nominee in 2012.

Sarah will have her chance later on if she wants it, and I and many of the Romney supporters here would support her. I actually think time would help her odds of winning the presidency. But the nastiness and name-calling is not helping her out Brooke. Sarah does deserve better.

Jed Merrill| 9.16.10 @ 10:05AM

Joan –
Misunderstood your post – you were laughing at Romney – he needs to be laughed out of this country, better yet ran out.
The comments are linked to the You Tube below-----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss_5n7TXHWQ
Below are some of the post comments for the you tube you commented on – on one is thinking it is funny --
1.UNLAWFUL MALICIOUS VINDICTIVE PERSECUTION

2.I can only re-iterate RWRamo----How sad----& what people will do-how LOW they'll stoop is shocking enough--BUT your own family??? Abuse on kids-[& their mum]---covered up?? THAT'S BEYOND TRAGIC!!---& the joke is 'THEY' expect people to have faith/trust in them--much like the 'war on terrorism'!! Do they think were ALL stupid?!

3. Sad, truly sad.

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.16.10 @ 10:05AM

Hey Dummies!

Sarah was NOT shooting at Romney. The thing that makes the whole tape hilarious is that Romney is running from the Bear.
Sarah calmly shoots the bear, probably eats the bear, stuffs the bear, and uses the bear for a couch cushion.
ILOVE IT AND HAVE PUT IT IN MY FAVORITES
Thanks for the clean link, Joan

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 10:16AM

Romney has been actively supporting conservative candidates. Mass Care is popular in Mass. Obama care is going to become a single payer system. Mass care will never be a single payer system. Mass care was not forced on the whole nation. Romney believes in the states rights to solve their problems. Romney will work to appeal Obama care. Romney has proven time and time again that he is a leader. He is successful in his academic life, his personal life and he has been successful in both the public and private sector. He is the men for these difficult times. He is a conservative that appeals to moderates and independents. Romney 2012.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 10:37AM

Geez, now we hear from another delushional Romneybot. Stop lying, Tracey; ROMNEYCARE is an unmitigated disaster that is bankrupting Mass. and you know it.

States Rights--what a joke. Romney's a Big Government, Nanny State Progressive Statist like Obama; if we elect the lousy RINO we will deserve the beatdown we get.

PLEASE! Just tell the truth for once, you morons aren't fooling anybody but yourselves.

Nate Gunderson | 9.16.10 @ 10:58AM

Brooke - perhaps you don't believe in states rights? Let's dissect your claims against Romney?

MassCare is bankrupting the state? Let's see it comprises only 1.5% of the state budget, but the budget gap is much wider than that. No Brooke, liberal spending is bankrupting the state. Romney built and left an enormous rainy-day fund when he left the state. Patrick very quickly used it all up.

Big Government? There were 600 less employees on the State payroll when he left office than when he started.

Nanny state? In what way? In Mass free care is handed out in ERs to those who aren't insured and it cost the state and fed a bundle. Mitt tried to stop that "nanny" practice and get people to be responsible for their own care and insurance.

MassCare a disaster? Why because insurance rates are skyrocketing? I live far from MA in an very conservative state. My family is perfectly healthy and my premiums have DOUBLED in the last four years. Is any state not experiencing this?

Now Brooke, please tell the truth... in what way is Romney a RINO progressive?

JP| 9.16.10 @ 11:36AM

Nate,
Nice try. Mass. State Treasurer said earlier this year that Mass Medicaid costs have skyrocketed to $9.7 billion dollars since RomneyCare was instituted (an increase of over $2 billion). Yes, since RomneyCare was made law 407,000 additional people are now covered. But only 32% now pay for health care without state subsidies. The other 68% recvieve either recieve subsidies or out right payments from the taxpayers. To make matters worse, Cahill said that only 23% of the state employees enrolled in RomneyCare pay any premiums. And the state has added $4 billion to its budget to cover costs. Despite your spin to the contrary, premium costs in Mass have gone up 12% each year since RomneyCare was passed. The costs of increased access has been passed on to the taxpayers in premium increases, and the $4 billion increased costs to the state will only get larger, the Treasurer complained. He also noted that there has been no decrease in the number of ER visits.

So Nate, please take your misinformation somewhere else.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 11:49AM

Hey, JP--thanks for the nice assist, I appreciate it!

Looks like the Romney camp is busting out the big guns to do his RINO lying for him. Someone's running scared! Love it.

GO SARAH 2012!

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 11:57AM

What a bunch of numbskulls!!!! Do you people not realize that the situation in Mass. was MUCH MORE SOCIALISTIC before Romneycare passed. Prior to its passage, anyone without healthcare could come in and get FREE healthcare on the backs of the taxpayers. Now, MANY of them have to pay their own premiums, and MANY more have to pay a portion of their premiums. NO MORE FREELOADERS in Massachusetts!!!! AND, you people claim to be CONSERVATIVES?
I like Sarah Palin as a person, but her supporters are proving the polls to be right....the uneducated part of our party.

Patriot| 9.16.10 @ 1:21PM

No respectable Republican would ever author a huge Government take-over of private industry.
RomneyCare is as unsustainable as ObamaCare.

Sounds like you're the one who is a dummy.

Dwight| 9.16.10 @ 6:57PM

You're wrong Patriot. There was no government take-over of a private industry with MassCare. If it had been adopted exactly as Mitt has envisioned (without the veto overrides and changes made since 2007), it would not be unsustainable. MassCare relies solely on private insurance.

Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 12:37AM

Sorry, Romney's responsible for RomneyCare, no matter how much you try to dodge it.

It's unsustainable and you know it.

Dwight| 9.17.10 @ 1:34AM

It is now that Governor Patrick has had his hands on it for 3 years with a Democratic legislature to boot. Remember that the Heritage Foundation also had a key role in developing MassCare.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 12:23PM

Romney is not for big government and he is not a Rhino. He is a fiscal conservative.

Your rhetoric reflects that of someone who lacks knowledge and is filled with hate.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:23PM

We are haters because we disagree with RINO Romney's fiscal policies? You're a liberal whackjob.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 1:58PM

I am far from liberal. Your kind will not get our country back on track. You are a divider not a builder. Your name calling reflects your poor character.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 3:31PM

Liars like you have poor character; I'm merely calling you out on your lies.
Stop calling people haters because they disagree with you on policy issues.

We're tired of RINOs who have no core and are willing to compromise their principles for power and position. Romney's an elitist and unworthy of the presidency.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:11PM

How is Romney an elitist? Because he STUDIED REALLY HARD and earned good grades? Because he WORKED REALLY HARD and became successful? Because he DONATED all of his time to save the SLC Winter Olympics and helped restore America's pride because the games sooned followed 9-11? Because he donated ONE MILLION of his own money to the Olympics? Because he didn't take a salary for his term as MA governor and saved that progressive state from bankruptcy? Because he demonstrated real team spirit and campaigned harder than any other pres candidate to help McCain/Palin? Because he donates so much of his time and money to help conservatives around the country? Because he is charitable? Tell me how Romney is an elitist.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:35AM

Romney is an elitist RINO and member of the ruling class. We don't need to run another RINO like McCain and get slaughtered in 2012.

We need some new blood--not blue blood.

J Wyatt| 9.17.10 @ 3:37PM

I imagine you at your computer with fingers stuck in both ears screaming 'la la la la la' as loudly as possible. There is no intelligent dialogue with you. Again, how is Romney elitist?

Dwight| 9.16.10 @ 6:58PM

You're calling Romney a fiscal RINO?! Lol! That's pretty funny Brooke. Care to back that up with anything that resembles reality?

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 12:32AM

RomneyCare is a fiscal disaster that is bankrupting Mass. Unfortunately for Romney--it's his reality.

Joan| 9.16.10 @ 11:19AM

What a load of crap! RomneyCARE was FORCED on ANYONE who lives in MA!!! ObamaCARE was FORCED on anyone who lives in the U.S.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 6:39PM

People in Mass have been happy with their healthcare. It is having problems primarily because democrats vetoed measures that Romney wanted that would have prevented the problems they are having. The states are like laboratories in which programs can be put into place and modified if necessary. What Mass needs is republican leadership. The dems are running the place and they are not doing a good job.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:14PM

Romneycare? There is NO Romneycare. The Massachusetts' private-market INSURANCE plan was voted on by the state legislature who represented the citizens of MA. They also over-rode portions of Romney's original proposal.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 12:30AM

Romney's responsible for RomneyCare just like Obama is responsible for ObamaCare--both of them will wear their disgrace for years to come.

Especially Romney.

albert constantine jr.| 9.16.10 @ 10:38AM

Not that things wouldn't be different in 2012, but inasmuch as this relates to the Delaware race, the early declared chair (in 2007) of the McCain campaign (he won the early Delaware presidential primary) was Mike Castle.

Warrior | 9.16.10 @ 10:39AM

We encourgage Mr. Romney to continue his successful academic and personal life. The rest of your post is just political bullshit.

Nate G. | 9.16.10 @ 10:45AM

This blog post is nothing more than red meat for conspiracy theory Palinites.

Stacey, I've read your stuff I'm know you can and have done much better than this story. My point is that you are basing this on a "suggestion" from a friend AND an outdated and inaccurate 2012 calendar.

If you have any proof of Romney supporters have an organized effort to ferociously attack Palin's endorsees that spit it out. Otherwise, for the good of the party, I'd suggest shutting it up and don't rile up the brainless lemming-hearted hoards to battle where there is none.

I'm as staunch of Romney supporter as you can find. I have absolutely NO resentment for Sarah Palin. I do however resent the members of the anti-Mitt echo chambers that constantly spew the same tripe with seemingly little independent thought. I swear they are as bad as democrats sometimes. When Romney immediately jumps behind O'Donnell as suggests to others that they should too because it's important for unity, he is slandered as an opportunist, instead of thanked for his efforts to bring on the GOP majority in November.

FYI- there is no 2012 calender yet. There is merely a primary guideline. Only four states will be in Feb (IA, NH, NV, and SC). The other states may start in March. Those that go in March must have a proportional distribution of delegates. The winner-takes-all states must wait until April. Thus states will have to choose how to best exert their influence and will have a choice to make. Point: There is no certainty whatsoever that DE will be a super-Tuesday state and your theory is bunk.

For the sake of unity lets lower the rhetoric levels and save it for the Dems in November.

Rodney King| 9.16.10 @ 11:55AM

Can't we all just get along? Nah, we're going to cut your RINO nuts off first!

Cheers.

J Waytt| 9.16.10 @ 8:16PM

So, this is the caliber of Palin’s supporters? Vile.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 12:26AM

Politics ain't beanball, whiny boy, and Romney knows how to play dirtier than anybody else.

J Wyatt| 9.17.10 @ 3:38PM

Proof of my earlier comment...

Jason| 9.16.10 @ 11:55AM

I cannot stand Mitt Romney and will not vote for him. I am also not really a Palin fan.

Mitch Daniels/ Paul Ryan 2012 sounds good to me.

Jonah| 9.16.10 @ 1:24PM

Good luck with that one, Jason. Sorry.

Dan| 9.16.10 @ 10:53AM

I like Sarah Palin a lot, and I like Mitt Romney a lot as well. Once we take back the house and hopefully the senate in November, we will owe both of them a great deal for all of the hard work they have done electing conservatives.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 11:55AM

Dan, well said!

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 11:55AM

Dan, well said!

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 11:25AM

Mr. McCain, you say “A few months ago, a friend suggested to me that Mitt Romney's supporters were involved in certain behind-the-scenes maneuvers as part of an effort to stack the deck in Romney's favor in advance of the 2012 presidential campaign. And these supporters, it was said, are especially concerned about thwarting any effort by Sarah Palin to get the 2012 GOP nomination.” A friend… who? Romney’s supporters… who? Behind-the-scene-maneuvers – what are they? Vague. Gossipy. No specifics – no named sources = no credibility.

Good grief, get a grip, folks. Romney has been working his tail off helping conservative candidates and organizations – giving time and money to them - so we can get America off the socialist freeway we’re speeding down.

As for health care in Massachusetts – there isn’t any health care. There is a private-market INSURANCE plan in place for MA residents – designed to get freeloaders to stop abusing MA taxpayers. That’s it. It’s a plan for MA residents – not for America, and it’s saving lives. The insurance plan is right on budget. Obama crafted a sinister plan to hi-jack the MA insurance private plan to use as cover for his own obsession to take over our HEALTH care system and take down a formidable potential candidate at the same time. Obama and cohorts have instituted a bastardized, bloated, blown up socialist plan to ruin health care in America. Obamacare and MA private-market insurance are NOT the same. And, Romney is a staunch believer in states’ rights and is adamantly against Obama’s health care power grab.

Romney has always been respectful toward Sarah Palin and appreciates what she has done/is doing to energize Republicans. They’re on the same side and have similar desires to help our country survive and overcome the Obamination. Romney is one of the nicest, down-to-earth guys you’ll meet; kind, genuine, and generous.

As for Romney’s skin tone – laughing out loud. Romney spends a lot of time outdoors for a variety of reasons, but especially with his wife, Ann, who rides horses to help manage her multiple sclerosis.

If you are truly concerned about our indebtedness to China and Japan, our Mt. Everest debt, our unsustainable entitlements, influence of corrupt unions, wasteful and frivolous use of taxpayer dollars, the loss of American jobs to foreign nations, our floundering economy, the hostile business environment, growing number of welfare recipients, and the drain of illegal immigrants, be grateful Mitt Romney is out there working so hard for America. He knows what to do to save us and how to get it done.

Romney is NOT a Christian| 9.16.10 @ 11:28AM

Statement of the Presbyterian Church (USA)Do NOT believe Mormons are Chrisitans
http://www.pcusa.org/interfaith/study/lds.htm

Statement of the Roman Catholic Church - Do NOT believe Mormons are Christians
http://www.vatican.va/roman_cu.....ni_en.html

Romney is NOT a Christian | 9.16.10 @ 11:29AM

Statement of the Southern Baptist Convention Do NOT believe Mormons are Christians
http://www.namb.net/atf/cf/{CDA250E8-8866-4236-9A0C-C646DE153446}/BB_Mormons.pdf

Statement of the United Methodist Church Do NOT believe Mormons are Christians.
http://www.gc2000.org/pets/cal/TEXT/c0806.asp

Romney is NOT a Chrisitan| 9.16.10 @ 11:32AM

Lutherans do NOT believe Mormons are Christians
http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=2239

Romney is NOT a Christian| 9.16.10 @ 11:34AM

http://www.irr.org/mit/is-mormonism-christian.html

9 reasons mormons are NOT Christians

Is Mormonism Christian? This may seem like a puzzling question to many Mormons as well as to some Christians. Mormons will note that they include the Bible among the four books which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their official name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Furthermore, many Christians have heard the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing Christian hymns and are favorably impressed with the Mormon commitment to high moral standards and strong families. Doesn’t it follow that Mormonism is Christian?
"To fairly and accurately resolve this question we need to carefully compare the basic doctrines of the Mormon religion with the basic doctrines of historic, biblical Christianity."

To fairly and accurately resolve this question we need to carefully compare the basic doctrines of the Mormon religion with the basic doctrines of historic, biblical Christianity. To represent the Mormon position we have relied on the following well-known Mormon doctrinal books, the first three of which are published by the Mormon Church: Gospel Principles (1997), Achieving a Celestial Marriage (1976), and A Study of the Articles of Faith (1979) by Mormon Apostle James E. Talmage, as well as Doctrines of Salvation (3 vols.) by the tenth Mormon President and prophet Joseph Fielding Smith, Mormon Doctrine (2nd ed., 1979) by Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie and Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith.

1. Is There More Than One True God?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that there is only one True and Living God and apart from Him there are no other Gods (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 43:10,11; 44:6,8; 45:21,22; 46:9; Mark 12:29-34).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that there are many Gods (Book of Abraham 4:3ff), and that we can become gods and goddesses in the celestial kingdom (Doctrine and Covenants 132:19-20; Gospel Principles, p. 245; Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 130). It also teaches that those who achieve godhood will have spirit children who will worship and pray to them, just as we worship and pray to God the Father (Gospel Principles, p. 302).

2. Was God Once a Man Like Us?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that God is Spirit (John 4:24; 1 Timothy 6:15,16), He is not a man (Numbers 23:19; Hosea 11:9; Romans 1:22, 23), and has always (eternally) existed as God — all powerful, all knowing, and everywhere present (Psalm 90:2; 139:7-10; Isaiah 40:28; Luke 1:37).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that God the Father was once a man like us who progressed to become a God and has a body of flesh and bone (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22; "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!" from Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-347; Gospel Principles, p. 9; Articles of Faith, p. 430; Mormon Doctrine, p. 321). Indeed, the Mormon Church teaches that God himself has a father, and a grandfather, ad infinitum (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373; Mormon Doctrine, p. 577).

3. Are Jesus and Satan Spirit Brothers?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that Jesus is the unique Son of God; he has always existed as God, and is co-eternal and co-equal with the Father (John 1:1, 14; 10:30; 14:9; Colossians 2:9). While never less than God, at the appointed time He laid aside the glory He shared with the Father (John 17:4, 5; Philippians 2:6-11) and was made flesh for our salvation; His incarnation was accomplished through being conceived supernaturally by the Holy Spirit and born of a virgin (Matthew 1:18-23; Luke 1:34-35).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that Jesus Christ is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary (D&C 93:21; Journal of Discourses, 1:50-51; Gospel Principles, p. 11-13; Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 129; Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 546-547; 742; Ezra Taft Benson, Come unto Christ, p. 4; Robert L. Millet, The Mormon Faith: Understanding Restored Christianity, p. 31). Mormon doctrine affirms that Jesus, all angels, Lucifer, all demons, and all human beings are originally spirit brothers and sisters (Abraham 3:22-27; Moses 4:1-2; Gospel Principles, pp. 17-18; Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).

4. Is God a Trinity?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost are not separate Gods or separate beings, but are distinct Persons within the one Triune Godhead. Throughout the New Testament the Son and the Holy Spirit, as well as the Father are separately identified as and act as God (Son: Mark 2:5-12; John 20:28; Philippians 2:10,11; Holy Spirit: Acts 5:3,4; 2 Corinthians 3:17,18; 13:14); yet at the same time the Bible teaches that these three are only one God (see point 1).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate Gods (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370; Mormon Doctrine, pp. 576-577), and that the Son and Holy Ghost are the literal offspring of Heavenly Father and a celestial wife (Joseph Fielding McConkie, Encyclopedia of Mormonism, vol. 2, p. 649).

5. Was The Sin Of Adam and Eve a Great Evil Or a Great Blessing?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that the disobedience of our first parents Adam and Eve was a great evil. Through their fall sin entered the world, bringing all human beings under condemnation and death. Thus we are born with a sinful nature, and will be judged for the sins we commit as individuals. (Ezekiel 18:1-20; Romans 5:12-21).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that Adam’s sin was "a necessary step in the plan of life and a great blessing to all of us" (Gospel Principles, p. 33; Book of Mormon — 2 Nephi 2:25; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 114-115).

6. Can We Make Ourselves Worthy Before God?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that apart from the saving work of Jesus Christ on the cross we are spiritually "dead in trespasses and sins" (Ephesians 2:1,5) and are powerless to save ourselves. By grace alone, apart from self-righteous works, God forgives our sins and makes us worthy to live in His presence (Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:5-6). Our part is only to cling to Christ in heartfelt faith. (However, it is certainly true that without the evidence of changed conduct, a person’s testimony of faith in Christ must be questioned; salvation by grace alone through faith, does not mean we can live as we please — Romans 6:1-4).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that eternal life in the presence of God (which it terms "exaltation in the celestial kingdom") must be earned through obedience to all the commands of the Mormon Church, including exclusive Mormon temple rituals. Works are a requirement for salvation (entrance into the "celestial kingdom") — Gospel Principles, p. 303-304; Pearl of Great Price — Third Article of Faith; Mormon Doctrine, pp. 339, 671; Book of Mormon — 2 Nephi 25:23).

7. Does Christ's Atoning Death Benefit Those Who Reject Him?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that the purpose of the atoning work of Christ on the cross was to provide the complete solution for humankind’s sin problem. However, those who reject God’s grace in this life will have no part in this salvation but are under the judgment of God for eternity (John 3:36; Hebrews 9:27; 1 John 5:11-12).

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that the purpose of the atonement was to bring resurrection and immortality to all people, regardless of whether they receive Christ by faith. Christ’s atonement is only a partial basis for worthiness and eternal life, which also requires obedience to all the commands of the Mormon church, including exclusive Mormon temple rituals (Gospel Principles, pp. 74-75; Mormon Doctrine, p. 669).

8. Is The Bible The Unique and Final Word of God?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that the Bible is the unique, final and infallible Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16; Hebrews 1:1,2; 2 Peter 1:21) and that it will stand forever (1 Peter 1:23-25). God’s providential preservation of the text of the Bible was marvelously illustrated in the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that the Bible has been corrupted, is missing many "plain and precious parts" and does not contain the fullness of the Gospel (Book of Mormon — 1 Nephi 13:26-29; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, pp. 190-191).

9. Did The Early Church Fall Into Total Apostasy?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have believed that the true Church was divinely established by Jesus and could never and will never disappear from the earth (Matthew 16:18; John 15:16; 17:11). Christians acknowledge that there have been times of corruption and apostasy within the Church, but believe there has always been a remnant that held fast to the biblical essentials.

By contrast, the Mormon Church teaches that there was a great and total apostasy of the Church as established by Jesus Christ; this state of apostasy "still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" of the Mormon Church (Gospel Principles, pp. 105-106; Mormon Doctrine, p. 44).


Conclusion: The above points in italics constitute the common gospel believed by all orthodox Christians through the ages regardless of denominational labels. On the other hand, some new religions such as Mormonism claim to be Christian, but accept as Scripture writings outside of the Bible, teach doctrines that contradict the Bible, and hold to beliefs completely foreign to the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.

Mormons share with orthodox Christians some important moral precepts from the Bible. However, the above points are examples of the many fundamental and irreconcilable differences between historic, biblical Christianity and Mormonism. While these differences do not keep us from being friendly with Mormons, we cannot consider them brothers and sisters in Christ. The Bible specifically warns of false prophets who will teach "another gospel" centered around "another Jesus," and witnessed to by "another spirit" (2 Corinthians 11:4,13-15; Galatians 1:6-9). Based on the evidence presented above, we believe Mormonism represents just such a counterfeit gospel.

It has been pointed out that if one claimed to be a Mormon but denied all the basic tenets of Mormonism — that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, that the Book of Mormon is true and divinely inspired, that god was once a man who progressed to godhood through keeping the laws and ordinances of the Mormon Church, and that the Mormon Church was divinely established — the Mormon Church would reject such a person’s claim to being a Latter-day Saint. One cannot fairly call oneself a Mormon if one does not believe the fundamental doctrines taught by the Mormon Church. By the same token, if the Mormon Church does not hold to even the basic biblical truths believed by the greater Christian community down through the ages, how can Christians reasonably be expected to accept Mormonism as authentic Christianity?

If the Mormon Church believes it is the only true Christian Church, it should not attempt to publicly present itself as a part of a broader Christian community. Instead it should tell the world openly that those who claim to be orthodox Christians are not really Christians at all, and that the Mormon Church is the only true Christian Church. This in fact is what it teaches privately, but not publicly.

Romney is NOT a Chrisitan| 9.16.10 @ 11:37AM

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Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 12:00PM

What part of the Article 6 do you all not understand? Seems like you missed the WHOLE thing our forefathers stood for.

Jonah| 9.16.10 @ 1:27PM

It's a troll like you.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 11:46AM

And, as a last resort - pull out the religion card... How pathetic! In the United States of America - freedom of religion is a RIGHT, guaranteed by our Founding Fathers:
United States Constitution — Article VI:

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

How Un-American that some feel a religious litmus test is the benchmark to determine who is qualified to be president.

Regardless of all what is said about Romney's religion, he has said he believes in Jesus Christ. And, more importantly, he LIVES a Christian life. Give me the person who actually LIVES gospel principles instead of just talks about them.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 11:53AM

Romney is not a Christian?

I attended the baptist church as a child, went to a catholic school and joined the mormon church at age 17. I learned at a very young age the Jesus loves me and I have carried that testimony with me through out my life and I have a testimony of that this day. I am a mormon and I believe in Christ...so that makes me a Christian.

I can conclude that you do not support Romney because he is a mormon. It is to bad that you can't see his potential to be a great American President. He is the man for these very difficult times. Romney 2012.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 12:03PM

I grew up United Methodist, and attended Disciples of Christ Christian from 19 through 32. At that point I joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I love Jesus Christ much more now than ever. He is my Creator, Redeemer, and Savior. I also live 10 times better Christian life now than ever before. God bless America.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 12:13PM

Looks like the Romney trolls have busted out the old "You won't vote for Myth because he's a Mormon so you're religious bigots!" Typical liberals; you can't win on the issues, so you have to lie and obfuscate.
Won't work, morons--we're on to you. It's not Mitt's religion, it's his flip-flopping RINO policies that we find revolting. Nice try though.

We know you're scared--you should be.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 12:17PM

We can win on the issues Brook. Romney is a conservative that is popular with moderate and independents. Facts don't lie. You and your buddies are distorting facts and lying about Romney's record.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:32PM

Cite me one lie, Tracey. Stop whining and face the facts--we don't want RINOs this year or next.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:18PM

One doesn't get anymore RINO than walking out on the constituents who voted you into the Governor's office... That is REAL Republican-In-Name-Only. Real Republicans finish what the voters sent them to do.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:24AM

No. "REAL" Republicans did not send MYTH to socialize healthcare and bankrupt their economy. RINO Republicans like you maybe, but not "REAL" Republicans.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 12:33PM

Not true at all. We were just responding to the vitriol against Mitt's religion freely allowed to display on this site. Our natural response was to testify of our love for our Savior, Jesus Christ. I will have to say though, that he probably doesn't appreciate me calling some of you names like idiots. :) Have a good day all!

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:30PM

If you can win on the issues why are you pulling this Religious bigotry crap? You know you did it! You clowns are so transparent it's laughable.

I'm embarrassed for you.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:21PM

I'm embarrassed for you because you don't know what is in the United States Constitution:
From our Founding Father - United States Constitution — Article VI:
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:20AM

Whose Constitutional rights were violated, clown?
Well?

You're delusional--you can't win on the issues so you cry bigotry. Just like liberals.

J Wyatt| 9.17.10 @ 2:53PM

Your name-calling is immature. You obviously didn't read what I wrote. I haven't "cried bigotry" but HAVE reminded you of one of the most important reasons why many first came to America and an ESSENTIAL principle our Founding Fathers believed in. If you support the United States Constitution, you should know what is in it. Article VI is fundamental.

South Park Parody of Mormons| 9.16.10 @ 12:01PM

Hilarious episode and if you don't like it, stuff it up your hat. (what to understand)

South Park parody of Mormons
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103933/

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 12:33PM

To No-Name,
Such a Christian comment... mocking and scorning.

Bible – Isaiah 28:14

King James Bible
For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed…

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Tyrants will be gone. Mockers will be finished…

American King James Version
For the terrible one is brought to nothing, and the scorner is consumed…

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 12:14PM

The person leaving the anti mormon comments does not have the guts to leave their name. It is obvious the poster is anti mormon therefore he is anti Mitt. This is about religion not politics .

Mitt Romney is a stellar candidate for President.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 12:19PM

No, Tracey, the person leaving the anti-mormon comments is obviously YOU. It's wrong to lie, remember? You're making Romney look even worse.

Pathetic.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 12:23PM

It's only obvious to an idiot....what a bazaar posting. Again the fact that Palin does well with the uneducated seems to be very accurate. WOW! Sarah Palin is fine, but her supporters are mostly idiots it seems.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:35PM

"Bazaar?" And you're calling us idiots?

You RINO Romney Robots are pathetic and poorly educated, too.

Angelo| 9.17.10 @ 6:19PM

Ilinoisguy,
Your comment is so sharp that it reflects on your real personality... I am a supporter of Palin and I am a grad of MIT, and my annual pay is USD 300,ooo.oo a year. Are you earning this much??

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 12:32PM

BROOK

I am not leaving the anti mormon comments. Any lies being told here are by you.

Romney would be an excellent President. He has all the right credentials and skills to get our nation on track.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:39PM

Thou shall NOT lie, Brooke!

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 2:09PM

Don't post under my name, Tracy--it just makes you look even more desperate than you are.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 6:56PM

I think we both know who is lying here.

Tracey| 9.17.10 @ 12:18AM

I'm sorry for my many lies on this thread, but I would do anything to get my RINO boy Romney elected in 2012.

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:45PM

lol. Brooke, you should chill.

TRW| 9.16.10 @ 12:15PM

The South Park bastards ridicule everybody.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 12:36PM

Those who -repost South Park crap are part of the ridicule.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:40PM

I agree--who did it?

Meg in Philly| 9.16.10 @ 12:46PM

Great article! I'm sorry to irritate Romney supporters, but this Ivy-League educated, country club gal, former Democrate woman just loves Sarah Palin! She'll get my money and my time now and through 2012!

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 12:48PM

Congratulations on your education. Polls show you to be in the great minority as a Palin supporter. Maybe the key words of your posting are 'former Democrate (sic) woman'.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:43PM

Welcome, Meg--Palin is bringing everyone together!

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 1:55PM

No! Palin is dividing the party. This could cost us the house and the senate.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 2:11PM

Tracy lies again! No one wants a RINO like Romney this time.

Sorry.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 2:30PM

Representative Jack Kingston urged Sarah Palin to stay clear of endorsing candidates in the primaries. "What she is doing is dividing the Republican Party at a time when we don't need to be divided."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38508

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 3:18PM

Sez you, RINO. Who cares a flip what Kingston said? He's irrelevant.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 4:59PM

What makes him irrelevant?

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 1:07AM

The fact that you brought him up and your judgement is tainted.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:27PM

There you go again... The real RINO in the room is Palin. She should have finished her Governor's job. She lied to Alaskans by quitting. Alaskans deserved better.

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:15AM

Sorry, we're not interested in running a RINO in 2012; we tried that and failed miserably in 2008.

RomneyCare disqualifies Myth.

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 3:05PM

Okay. I'll play... Half a governor's job, writing notes on hand, and 'refudiation' disqualifies SCAREah. lol.

Angelo| 9.17.10 @ 6:24PM

Yeah, me too.. My annual earnings are too much for me and for my family. It is now time to give back something for America by giving monthly donations to SARAHPAC so that Sarah Palin is to become our next POTUS 2012-2o2o

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 1:03PM

http://www.frumforum.com/how-t.....enate-seat

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:46PM

Who cares what David Frump thinks? He's a back-stabbing RINO, too. You just made your argument worse.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 1:53PM

Perhaps the tea party and Palin supporters have lost site of the goal of winning the senate and the house.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 2:13PM

That's "sight" Tracy.

With Palin as POTUS we will win Congress!

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 2:26PM

We need to win congress in 2010. If Palin were to be POTUS, it would in 2012.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 3:20PM

Duh! I thought that was pretty obvious.

Tracey| 9.16.10 @ 6:59PM

So what you are saying is we can wait for Sarah to be Pres and then we will win the house in 20__?

I do not follow you logic...

Brooke| 9.17.10 @ 12:13AM

2010 AND 2012--is that clear enough now?

Telling it Like it Is| 9.16.10 @ 1:04PM

Just so you'll know the type of front page poster allowed here, "Robert Stacy McCain writes for VDARE and Takimag, two disgusting, openly racist websites. And he’s a friend of Richard Spencer, a self-avowed white nationalist. McCain is a member of the white supremacist group League of the South, and he’s associated with the deeply racist American Renaissance."

Is this the kind of person you like to follow folks?

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:49PM

Liar. You RINO Romney Robots are bottom feeders--and you wonder why we detest you.

Your vicious lies show your ugly desperation.

SARAH PALIN 2012!

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:28PM

Classless.

Jeremiah| 9.17.10 @ 12:07AM

Someone who stands by and approves of vicious slander toward a good man is not only indecent but immoral. Brooke's right, your desperation is ugly. You do a grave disservice to your boss.

Brad| 9.17.10 @ 3:19PM

From all I've read here, the grave disservice being done is to Sarah Palin by her supporters who resort to name-calling and aren't representing her with intelligent dialogue. I'm a fan of hers but I'm now seriously considering Mitt Romney.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 1:14PM

Hmmm, wondering why American Spectator would allow this guy to front page post for them?

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 1:50PM

Buzz off, scum-sucker.

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:23PM

If you are a representative of Sarah Palin, you ought to communicate with more dignity.

PALIN 2012!!| 9.17.10 @ 12:12AM

If you have to lie and slander others to get Romney elected, he deserves to go down in flames. Not very Christian of you.

You should be ashamed.

J Wyatt| 9.17.10 @ 3:13PM

What are you talking about? I haven't lied or slandered anybody. You either can't read well or just like jumping to conclusions.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 2:14PM

Brooke: Google it! It's all over the internet the kind of person your little hero is here.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 3:22PM

You're reading the lies of huffPo again, troll.

You're probably one of those nasty SEIU thugs from Chicago.

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 3:34PM

I don't EVER go to Huffington Post. I am a three legged stool conservative. If you had actually googled, you would see this guy is a BIGOT through and through. Instead you accuse in ignorance. I would hope Sarah would be ticked at you for supporting a story like this from this bigot.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 4:25PM

A three legged tool more like it.

RS McCain has been writing for American Spectator for a long time and is one of my favorite columnists. I've heard about your lies before and they've been disproven.

You're a liar and should be banned from commenting here.

Bo Darville| 9.16.10 @ 3:01PM

Isn't Jim DeMint the real kingmaker in all of this? I think Palin & Romney are the fluffy come latelies who are trying to take credit for everything when its more safe.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 3:24PM

Works for me! DeMint and Palin are true Conservative allies.

PALIN/DEMINT 2012!

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 3:40PM

Jim DeMint is a staunch Romney supporter. He was in 2008 and will be again in 2012.

Brooke| 9.16.10 @ 4:26PM

Wanna bet?

Illinoisguy| 9.16.10 @ 4:29PM

YEP!! If I win, you support Romney. If you win, I support Palin if she wins the primary! :) Actually, I'm one of those people who don't bet. But if I were to, I'd bet on it. Btw, if you like to bet go to intrade. You can buy Palin for at about 6 to 1 odds....Mitt will cost you almost 3:1

Angelo| 9.16.10 @ 4:49PM

I can bet for this in favor of Palin. You will be surprise if Palin runs 2012 GOP primary. She will surely have huge financial backings from a leading Japanese automaker based in America. How come I know this? I work with these guys, you betcha!!

J Wyatt| 9.16.10 @ 8:25PM

DeMint is a patriot and will do what is best for the country. He is a big fan of Mitt Romney. Romney/DeMint 2012!

Jeremiah| 9.16.10 @ 11:56PM

DeMint will make a great VP for another true Conservative: Sarah Palin.

PALIN/DEMINT 2012!!

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:29PM

It would be worthwhile to read 'No Apology: The Case for American Greatness' by Mitt Romney. Give you a better idea of who he is.

Oldefarte| 9.16.10 @ 4:36PM

It has been reported that Romney has now endorsed O'Donnell and that Rush Limbaugh has requested contributions toward her campaign. With the support of Palin and hopefully more Republican heavyweights, she should now be off and running against the Democratic candidate!!!!!!!

Purple Lips| 9.16.10 @ 4:54PM

Tracey,
Who wants a united GOP if it means a return to the 1996-2007 status quo ante. I think people are finally waking up to the fact that the GOP has been run by Statists, Progressives, Liberal Wannbes, effette bedwetters, and an entire army of political careerists and operatives that wish for nothing more than growing the federal government. The MSM and the GOP have put on a nice 2 decades long charade. The GOP by and large is run by the so-called Moderates. Just today, 3 "Moderates" (Lugar, Corker,Isakson) to pass Obama's new START treaty.

The GOP is under fire for the same reasons Obama and his party is. Conservatives don't want power, they want reform.

Tracey | 9.16.10 @ 5:05PM

We have a better shot at getting reform if we win the house/senate. We need to repeal Obama care and reverse the course to socialism. We need to win the house / senate and we need to nominate candidates that can win. Is it smart to fall on our ideals and risk losing the senate? I am all for getting the bums out of Wash. and if we are going to do that we need to think strategically not just ideally.

Jeremiah| 9.16.10 @ 11:54PM

We ran a RINO in 2008; we all know how badly that turned out for us. We can't risk another loss in 2012 by running another RINO--Romney.

If we want to take our country back we need to elect a true Conservative in 2012--Sarah Palin.

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:37PM

What good will it do America to elect someone who isn't ready to be President of the United States? Who doesn't have deep, solid knowledge and experience in economics, geography, world affairs, doesn't do well with the mainstream press, who writes notes on her hand, and who is distracted by her family's fiascos?

Break through your blindspots. Learn more about Romney. He IS a dedicated conservative.

somnolence| 9.16.10 @ 9:39PM

Sarah Palin is my favorite for President, but if this anti-Mormon tripe continues I could very well find myself in Romney's camp. I like the man a lot, but I agree that he will really have to articulate the difference between the health care he advocated in Mass. and the national tragedy/travesty of Obamacare. BTW Daniels/Ryan is unelectable, and believe me, would be a potential PR disaster, especially with Daniels' Bush connections. Palin/Romney or Romney/Palin is a sure winner. One out of seven currently in poverty under a socialist, DEMOCRATIC administration which constantly blames Bush for its problems. Palin/Romney, please.

Jeremiah| 9.16.10 @ 11:49PM

The anti-Mormon tripe was posted by pro-Romney commenters looking for sympathy; no one else cares about his religion. Wise up.

2thePoint| 9.17.10 @ 2:24PM

The anti-Mormon tripe ISN'T being posted by Romney people.

Tracey | 9.17.10 @ 2:11PM

Jeremiah That is just not true. Pro-Romney supporters did not post the anti - mormon / Mormons are not Christians.

Romney is not a RHINO. His record reflects that of someone who is PRO-LIFE, PRO TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, ANTI CAP AND TAX, AND FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE.

Nick| 9.17.10 @ 7:42PM

Tracey,

Nice try!

When he was running against the Swimmer Kennedy, in '94, Romney was a pro-abortion candidate.

Tracey| 9.17.10 @ 9:28PM

Hey Nick,
I think we've established that Mitt is Pro - Life.

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