The American Spectator : The Spectacle Blog : Reid to Netroots: "We're Going To Have a Public Option"

Gary Johnson| 7.24.10 @ 7:54PM

Harry's "public option" is running out in November...

giatny| 7.24.10 @ 10:07PM

His one salvation is that there isn't enough time left for Angle to get a brain transplant.

BobHH| 7.24.10 @ 11:04PM

And Harry doesn't have one to donate to her.

JoeH| 7.24.10 @ 11:21PM

Well played!

Fast Eddie. | 7.25.10 @ 12:51AM

I wonder who's walking around with Pelosis' brain? Evidently she misunderstood the whole organ donor thin........

Fast Eddie | 7.25.10 @ 12:54AM

Uh, thinG.......

Bill| 7.25.10 @ 9:47AM

She's an airhead. There is NOTHING between the ears other than that fake smile which reminds me of my dog when she passes gas!

Jeanette | 7.25.10 @ 3:10PM

I'm not positive, but I think it's "E". :-)

Marylou Leeman| 7.25.10 @ 6:37PM

It's E! It's gotta be E.

Julie standish | 7.25.10 @ 10:57AM

When the brain train came by Nancy Pelosi thought they said crane train and let it pass by...

Bob Ellis| 7.26.10 @ 12:18AM

LOLOLOL - Ooooh boy you repubs are some funny people - guess that's why you've got all those comedy shows huh?

Oh wait - I forgot about faux noise - biggest comedy show ever.

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:24AM

Good one Bob....I never heard that faux noise reference to Fox News before....oh wait I did the last time I fell off my dinosaur...all I can tell you and your fellow Dem libtards is that I can see November from my house....let the clean sweep begin...

JD| 7.26.10 @ 9:16AM

Oh puleeze!!!! That's getting so old. At least 'faux" news reports BOTH views and ALL the news. Tick tock, tick tock. November is coming!!!

TERRY| 7.26.10 @ 12:55PM

Funny is having your runoff election decided by incarcerated folks, Right Frankin????

TERRY| 7.26.10 @ 12:56PM

Funny is having your runoff election decided by incarcerated folks, Right Frankin????

Jake| 7.25.10 @ 12:14PM

Angle does not NEED one to compete with dingy Harry Reid.

tom | 7.25.10 @ 1:56PM

How about we take your brain and give it to the scarecrow?

George Edward| 7.25.10 @ 10:43PM

Where did you come up with that line? The third grade?

rick| 7.25.10 @ 9:31AM

Almost the entire problem is that these "elected officials" stay in office way too long . Need 2 terms and out , just like potus . Reid , Dodd , Pelosi and many more , are old goats . They are not concerned about the future cuz they wont be here and they are bent on destroying us before they go . And go they should , at the end of a rope !

jb| 7.25.10 @ 9:36AM

Then vote them out!!! Term limits are a sorry excuse for laziness and complacency.

Newshound77| 7.25.10 @ 10:03AM

I vote in every election. Unfortunately there are too many products of the public school system who vote in opposition. It is sad, but a huge swathe of the population still votes for public officials as if they were voting for Homecoming King/Queen.

stepinfetchit| 7.25.10 @ 9:21PM

The school systems across America "brainwashed the 18 year olds" to vote for Obama in the last election. As far as I'm concerned, teachers that taught the 18 year old voters should be tarred and feathered and kicked out of the school system.
These teachers played the "race" issue by teaching the 60's discrimunation issue and then telling the 18 year olds to vote for a black. This is brainwashing, NOT TEACHING! The past is the past, everyone is free and everyone has equal rights. No one is OWED a thing! Period.

Looky| 7.25.10 @ 11:43AM

Untrue. Gerrymandering and contributions to incumbents by lobbyists severely stack the deck against challengers. Term limits have become necessary.

BigMista50| 7.25.10 @ 11:55AM

Looky...you hit it on the head with that one. Lobbyists and unions are killing our votes. They are stealing elections. Term limits would be a good start to this house cleaning.

Greg| 7.25.10 @ 5:43PM

Correct. We need to FIX the boundaries and make them by geograpic lat/lon lines across the country and get rid of the gerrymandering of districts. I am against term limits, but I am beginning to think it is the only way to get rid of these 20, 30 and 40 year politicians! It is all about power. Why do they spend MILLIONS of dollars for a 100,000 dollar a year job? Hmmm. Is it because by the time they leave office they are really rich and have managed to increase their fortunes tenfold? Charlie Rangle has been in office 40+ years and is 80 years old... Why the heck would anyone still want to be in office at 80? Money, power, greed.

fryguy| 7.25.10 @ 1:49PM

Sorry, jb, but I agree with rick. The incumbents and their corporate or union benefactors wire and rewire the system to cover for each other and deliver consistent out comes.

Time to tear it down.

bargal| 7.25.10 @ 3:15PM

Term limits will keep people that love the gravy train from having too much gravy without working for the ingreidients. JB---are you on the gravy train? or is it that you are just to darn lazy or to darn complacent to read the news and stay up with crooked deals that are constantly made in washington and don't relly give a damn if your grandchildren and great grandchildren have to pay for those that are enjoying the free trip now?

FlushTheLibs | 7.26.10 @ 2:28AM

Nevada'ns need to Vote the Right ANGLE and Flush Harry come November.

citiaen1954| 7.25.10 @ 10:59AM

Government service wasn't meant to be a career. We pay them and give them all the benefits and frills so they can: write voluminous bills, build bigger bureaucracies, cement their positions, cripple our liberty, economy and futures, and proselytize...so that...they can write voluminuous bills, build bigger bureaucracies, cement their positions...

noneofyourbusiness| 7.25.10 @ 4:28PM

Not at all sure how limiting members of the house to just four years and senators to 12 would help anything. Maybe they can run for Senate, but those opportunities will be few with senators only getting kicked out every 12 years and maybe 20, 30 or even 50 other representatives with the same idea.

More likely they would be forced to spend their time pandering to lobbyists (even more) so that they had a life after politics.

Really bad idea.

Cheers!

RANCHO DEL VALKAYRIE| 7.25.10 @ 11:30PM

Actually I contend, POTUS should be able to run as long as elected and Capitol Hill should be sujected to term limits.

chaz| 7.26.10 @ 4:44AM

lets not forget boener and mcconnell and those scum

yiddishlion| 7.25.10 @ 3:20PM

Everything he said is spot on. He listens to Rush, and you HAVE a limp dick. You worthless liberal scum!

the electrician| 7.25.10 @ 4:46PM

Rush is greatcalling him names is something a limpdick liberal does, poor old liberals hide behind your puters and call people names from afar, nothing intelligent to say....

billy adams| 7.25.10 @ 5:41PM

100 more days and this muslim communist bent on america's demise will be a lame duck!!!

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:26AM

Well said...

Joe| 7.26.10 @ 12:32AM

Stupidly said.

JD| 7.26.10 @ 9:48AM

Your IQ and vocabulary are probably match on a very low scale. Grow up!

JD| 7.26.10 @ 9:55AM

Before you jump at my typing, I mean to say "vocabulary probably ....."

jgalt| 7.25.10 @ 4:11PM

Regarding the instability of SS, and the supposed stability of retirement accounts, i.e., 401K and IRA's, I have an interesting observation. In 2009, at the bottom of the fall, I had lost around 75% of the value of my 401K. I sold it in its entirety, and immediately bought the best stocks back in a personal and non-government ruled account. I am all the way back to the pre-crash value, but without government harassment and the costs of filing forms and keeping up with constant rules changes. Plus, now any gains will be at capital gains rates, not ordinary income as those under government control will pay. Tax free accounts are a suckers game that only benefit tax accountants, lawyers, and the government, who all take your hard-earned money. Just sit down and put a pencil to paper and figure out the difference of paying the tax on any figure you wish to invest, then investing for the long term, and the cost of so-called "tax free" investing, which is anything but. By the way, I majored in Accounting, and practice law, so I do know something about the subject. Many of my friends have now abandoned their government controlled accounts to invest with after-tax dollars. No tax lawyers, accountants, or government yearly rules to deal with, a huge savings of your money each and every year. I do get SS, but SS is broke, and Algores "lockbox" is a sick joke, as the politicians have taken every dime received each and every year to pay for their favorite programs, and have brought more and more SS recipients onto the roles who have never paid a dime into the program. SS absolutely cannot survive without a massive tax increase and decrease in benefits, probably a means test despite the fact that those failing a means test would be the very ones paying the most into SS. Time to clean house in Washington, although the criminal trials that should come will not.

Greg| 7.25.10 @ 5:47PM

Excellent analogy and commentary. Thank you.

slowjoe| 7.25.10 @ 5:56PM

You should keep your thoughts to yourself. If this administration finds out someone is making money they will tax it. Good luck

Joseph | 7.25.10 @ 6:55PM

Lord willing the obamination won't be able to ram any more of his radical agenda down our throats come Nov.
http://intimatemomentswiththefather.com/blog/

TIM JONES| 7.26.10 @ 7:14AM

Bye Bye Harry.

cracker| 7.24.10 @ 8:00PM

Hope they name a port-a-let after him! Harry's unfinished business!

MaggieLyn| 7.24.10 @ 9:09PM

Harry either never learns or doesn't give a hoot what the populace wants! Go ahead Harry an spout off about providing a "public option{! I hope you have saved for your retirement. Oh, I forgot. You're one of the priviledged government employees that can retiree with as much as you made when working! Aren't you glad there are so many taxpayers out here to provide the money for your extravagant retirement?

RedTruck| 7.24.10 @ 10:56PM

Not only does Harry not give a hoot - most members of Congress do not give a hoot - in fact the President does not give a hoot.
They are so out of touch with reality it is absolutely disgusting - the arrogance is beyond belief.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 9:34AM

Who cares about the people? We (Democrats) know what's best for the people. Oh wait, I mean
we know whats best for the party, we really don't give a rats a$$ about what the people want.

Signed' Pelosi, Ried and Obama

j coneghen| 7.25.10 @ 11:56AM

The three stooges!!

WEB| 7.25.10 @ 12:43PM

I would never insult the classic 3 Stooges by comparing them to these 3 Clowns.

RANCHODELVALKAYRIE| 7.25.10 @ 11:33PM

I call them THE GANG OF THREE.

zak| 7.25.10 @ 8:19AM

They are Marxist-Socialists. Why would they care aboutl what the people want?

Bob| 7.25.10 @ 8:42AM

You are so right, they are Marxist-Socialists. I just read "Witness" by Whittaker Chambers. It explains a lot of why we are where we are.

RANCHODELVALKAYRIE| 7.25.10 @ 11:40PM

Actually The Gang of Three (The Current President, Reid, Pelosi) and there regressive minions are turning democracy into the worst form of Govt there is. Course with that, it will still be better than all the rest in the world.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 9:38AM

Hey Zak remember this, The democrats will lie cheat and do anything they can short of murder, and I'm not real sure about murder, to get elected.
Look for a lot of "stuff" at the ballot box in November, These bsatrads have no shame, none>

fruguy| 7.25.10 @ 1:53PM

Socialism is when the government owns and controls the means of production.

This crew lets private companies own the means of production, while they control the means through taxation, regulation, and coersion.

So, technically, they are fascists.

dick| 7.26.10 @ 6:55AM

wow, i am so high! and you guys, most of you make so much scence, i hope our next leader reads this shit! y makin it a good high!!

Dave| 7.26.10 @ 9:37PM

Don't forget GM, Chrysler, and much of the financial system, mortgage industry, scholastic loan industry, etc. Save yourself the trouble... I just call them what they are, communists.

CARMEN| 7.25.10 @ 6:26PM

I agree but it is funny why no reporters are asking him why the government with its already public option called medicaid pay twice the money per person than the insured? And if social security is the best entitlement ever why havent they published the yearly report of its fiscal condition that was due months ago? Is it in the red for the first time ever? These questions need to be asked and answered by lil Harry "who likes obama because he is light skinned with no negro dialect and that there are no illegals working in Nevada" Reid.

Dan| 7.24.10 @ 8:05PM

The arrogance of these progressive libs will continue until we take their keys away...after the election their homestates need to recall them of they will do serious damage in the lame duck session. They know they aren't representing the will of the US citizens...it seems to me that that should be plenty of justification...Don't give this Marxists another shot at destroying this great nation...To his credit, at least Harry's not trying to hide the plans anymore...

Bob| 7.25.10 @ 9:31AM

On the mark. The far left Marxists do not get it: they are toast in November. The public option that Harry Reid will see is the public option to send him packing, and then, the public option to repeal socialized medicine.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 9:41AM

Hey Bob, don't be too sure about November. These maggots have Acorn, welfare, racism and the will to do anything and everything to get elected.

ML| 7.25.10 @ 6:42PM

Bingo! you hit the nail on the head. I only hope we have a huge turnout to overcome them.

ML| 7.25.10 @ 6:42PM

Bingo! you hit the nail on the head. I only hope we have a huge turnout to overcome them.

Jee| 7.25.10 @ 1:12PM

The people's voice better be heard "FAIRLY" in Movenber. Any cheating and stealing this election will result in mass Revolution. We wont be "F"ed anymore.

dick| 7.26.10 @ 7:04AM

i talk to people everywhere i go, its in the air, i fan the flames. they always talk about population control 20 percent, they say are thier numbers i believe they said that last night on NPR

AnnieK| 7.24.10 @ 8:08PM

The public have an option called "Vote". Come November it will excercise it's public option. Bye-Bye Harry!

ML| 7.25.10 @ 6:43PM

I like the sound of this.

bruce b| 7.24.10 @ 8:22PM

the main reason the republicans are in support of the privatization of social security is to channel more money to the brokerage houses on wall street.the system needs some tweaks but not privatization.

steven larson| 7.24.10 @ 8:31PM

reply to bruce b: what planet are you on, the system is totally broke there is no money in social security, its iou"s do your homework. google it , educate yourself man. I will take private account any dayof the week. Your return on social security tax is about 1 1/2 % per year. Ignorance must be bliss

aphonse jones| 7.24.10 @ 10:39PM

poor bruce hasn'tr woken up to the fact not only will he be paying more into social security but will have to wait uintil his 70's to collect anything

That is if the illegals the hussein plans to legalize don't drain the last few pennies from a bankrupt program

AJ| 7.25.10 @ 4:04AM

You forgot the other half of the tax burden. Not only will we pay more in FICA taxes to keep the program solvent, but more in any other tax the oligarchs decide is necessary for the Treasury to repay the money it has borrowed out of the so called 'Social Security Trust Fund'.

Newshound77| 7.25.10 @ 10:07AM

Coming to your neighborhood immediately after the debt commission report: no cap on social security taxes, means testing for benefits and a retirement age that moves somewhere into the 70's.

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:30AM

Go easy on Bruce...he actually thinks that the Public Option is going to mean free quality health care for all. Someday he may see the light that the public option is going to paid for on the backs of the productive middle class that will reap none of the benefits...

jelly fish| 7.26.10 @ 7:18AM

middle class? wait till you get knocked down where the knocked me, there wont be none of you left buddy, they aim to get you too!

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:02AM

SS is solvent, and always has been. Just because greedy politicians raided the fund and replaced the money with government-backed securities, does not mean the system is not solvent.
IOU's are backed by the integrity of the US government and the system is not paying out more (currently) than it takes in.
Any imbalances can be avoided in the future with a removal of the limit on SS paid on wages over $100k (employers exempt from this part).
On planet earth, the USA SS system is not broke, because the great Ronald Reagan raised the SS rates (giving us the largest tax increase in US history) to prepare for the retiring Baby Boomers. Tell your representatives in Congress to stop stealing SS money.

CBKC| 7.25.10 @ 9:52AM

Huh? IOU's backed by the integrity of the gov't? The gov't is borrowing the money from China. They can cut us off anytime. SS does NOT currently take in more than it pays. It went in to the red recently. Guess MSM didn't report that.

Eric| 7.25.10 @ 9:57AM

Largest tax increase in US history by Reagan? Methinks you're forgetting about the likes of Woodrow Wilson and FDR.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 10:34AM

In the period since 1968, the study said, "the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 was the biggest increase." That was the tax increase signed by Ronald Reagan, rescinding some of the effects of his huge tax cut passed the year before.
That 1982 tax increase only slightly exceeded Clinton's in inflation-adjusted dollars ($37 billion a year vs.. $32 billion) but it was much bigger in relation to the size of the economy. The '82 increase amounted to 0.8% of GDP (average for the first two years) while Clinton's was 0.5%.
http://www.factcheck.org/treas.....rease.html

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:31AM

Easy Eric...how can they spew false facts if you call them out when they revise history????

Gene| 7.25.10 @ 9:58AM

By this philosophy, it is impossible for Social Security to be in default. Just increase what people have to put in. It simply is not actuarilly sound.

Gary| 7.25.10 @ 11:06AM

INTEGRITY??? In the OSAMA administration? Backed by I.O.U's??? Tell ya what there Bruce, I have a lot of integrity and I'll be glad to issue you some I.O.U's if you let me rob your bank accounts. Those I.O.U's should be a great comfort to you when or if you reach retirement age.

Surfdumb| 7.25.10 @ 1:15PM

I've been noticing a concerted attack on Reagan's legacy lately, leftists are worried, the propaganda machine found one isolated stat to run with, an increase in nat'l debt - taken out of context regarding who controlled the purse strings and ignoring that pesky Cold War thingy and the great expansion that Reagan secured for decades to come.
It's quite pathetic that leftists are now attacking the Reagan legacy and rewriting history once again. Their success is made possible by their actively dumbing down of our 'Utes' and the instant sounbite gratification and hypnotic brainwashing by the 4th estate and public edumacation system.
"The Press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of the government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free
press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people."
-– Hugo Black, Supreme Court Justice
"Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment nothing can fail. Without it nothing can succeed. He who molds public opinion is greater than he who enacts laws."
-- President Abraham Lincoln
Milton Friedman Quotes -Reagan Economic Advisor: " I am favor of cutting taxes under any circumstances and for any excuse, for any reason, whenever it's possible.
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.
A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
The Great Depression, like most other periods of severe unemployment, was produced by government mismanagement rather than by any inherent instability of the private economy.
The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom."
"The most important single central fact about a free market is that no exchange takes place unless both parties benefit." ---This is what the leftists never get-prefering to use Force to Redistribute Your Wealth as They See Fit, in their great wisdom and sense of 'fairness' & 'for the collective good'
Alas, our Utes never hear of Milton Friedman, just Keynesian hacks like Krugman. Socialists (like Hitler) loved Keynesian policies because it invariably results in more and more centralized gov't control over the economy, Keynes was, and is, the fabian socialists best friend.

Jimmee| 7.25.10 @ 12:24PM

Your return is 0%. The money that you are forced to pay in to SS is immediately spent. SS isn't an investment at all but is actually a legal, government run Ponzi scheme. Unless every generation is larger than the one that came before it the scam will eventually fail as all Ponzi schemes do.

Panayiotis| 7.24.10 @ 8:33PM

Then why do all the brokerage houses OVERWHELMINGLY support Biraq and the Democrat party?!?!?!?

SargeH| 7.24.10 @ 8:49PM

Who, pray tell, is "Biraq?" And you think anyone should take what you post seriously?

trainman55| 7.24.10 @ 9:23PM

Re: "Who, pray tell, is "Biraq?""

That is the part of the population in Iraq that can go either way!

Waste| 7.26.10 @ 9:24AM

Biraq is the mythical creature that transported the muslim 'prophet' Mohammed to the farthest mosque (which they claim is Jeruselum and hence their claim there). And is the basis for Barack's first name.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.24.10 @ 9:25PM

You may not like his spelling but his comments are spot on!

Wall Street supported dems OVERWHELMINGLY in 2008. They deserve the ass-kicking the commies gave them.

And we will kick commie ass in November!!

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:34AM

You got that right...why do you think the pharmaceuticals cut a deal with the current administration before the insurance companies could? Wall St. is getting what it justly deserves for the backing they placed.

John| 7.24.10 @ 9:54PM

If SSA is so good why isn't Harry and the rest of the congress on it? Why aren't federal and municipal workers on it? They are in the stock market and private sector with their retirement funds which produce higher return.

TxVet| 7.24.10 @ 10:45PM

Feds hired before the mid 80s don't contribute to SS, but have a decent ritirement. Those hired after that, under FERS, do contribute to SS and only get about 1% retirement for each year of service. Any Fed Emp can voluntarily contibute to the TPS (Thrift Savings Plan). It works like a 401k.

TxVet| 7.24.10 @ 10:46PM

Sorry! TSP. My bad!

Retired gov't worker| 7.25.10 @ 5:28AM

" Feds hired before the mid 80s don't contribute to SS, but have a decent ritirement. Those hired after that, under FERS, do contribute to SS and only get about 1% retirement for each year of service. Any Fed Emp can voluntarily contibute to the TPS (Thrift Savings Plan). It works like a 401k. "

True but post mid 80's are allowed to contribute more into TSP than the pre 80's can, and post 80's get some government matching which the pre's do not. So, the post 80's (they have SS in their package) are not screwed quite so bad as your message suggests.

/Keeping them honest flag is: ON

Current Gov't Worker| 7.26.10 @ 8:59AM

"get some" gov't matching... 100% of 5%, 50% for the next 2.5%. Find some private employers that do that. Vested in 3 years.

waldo| 7.25.10 @ 4:48AM

That says it all

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:04AM

They are in the stock market and private sector with their retirement funds which produce higher return.

You mean the stock market that recently crashed and destroyed the 401k's of millions.
No thanks!

Jimmy| 7.25.10 @ 8:15AM

Wiped OUT!!! Only if they stupid enough to panic sell at the bottom. Mine's back to 2006 in value, but way better than it was in 2002.
I would be way the heck better if my SS money had went in the market all these years.

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:36AM

Dan tell me you did not cash out your 401k when things tanked....way to lock in guaranteed losses...it has been a bit of a roller coaster but a significant amount of returns have been made on 401k investments....quit being a dumb ass and thinking so short term...

Lynn| 7.25.10 @ 11:46AM

Well said. Milton Freidman argued that with a third world country bordering USA, we could not afford a public option. What would Canada do if it had to pay for 10% of America's population through entitlement of health care and education. They'd put up a wall similiar to China's.

Ed| 7.24.10 @ 10:33PM

Really, we like only getting 0.01% return on our money. Why would anyone want to support privatization of SS? Those evil banks only want to pay 1.8 to 3% on a IRA, CD or even a simple savings account. Those banks, there so greedy!
I want my SS savings to grow much slower then I age so most of my money can go to someone who has never had a job to pay into SS. Idiot!!!

tcpipman| 7.25.10 @ 7:04AM

Um I beg to differ.. this year I am up over 40% since I pulled money out of Stocks in my 401 k and plopped it in my Stable Value fund. The thing about a 401K is that you have to take the time to manage it ... you can not just sock money away and expect it to grow .. you have to tend to your seed.
With SS all there is is an abyss, it has been the greatest ponisy scheme every devised and now with every 3 workers supporting every 1 retiree, unlike in the 1930s when these scheme was thought up 75:1, it is already collapsing under its own weight.

tcpipman| 7.25.10 @ 7:05AM

I would like to add .. I pulled it out in September of 08 when the VIX was crazy and put it back in when the Dow was at 6500, or lost half of its value.

dee| 7.25.10 @ 7:36AM

Being in the financial business- you are so right-- you would not believe how many people do not monitor their account-- unless you have hired someone privately- chances are - you must watch it-- I was shocked when I would offer my services to the company free- to come in once or twice a month to help their employees with their investments-- educate, and show them how to track-- they did not want to be bother-- and they liked paying the higher fees for their contracts-- the ones who took a look at what we can do - switched-- employees were happy because they are now having the chance to earn money and protect it and the HR were glad to have the burden off of them plus many of the companies were able to save money from the fees and got something better- so yes you better educate yourself- because what is about to come down the pipeline if congress gets their way-- we are going to be screwed even more-- as for congress not getting social security as I have read in some posts-- some are actually taking that while still working plus what they are entitled to through their own programs---

dee| 7.25.10 @ 7:52AM

The facts: The confusion about Social Security probably results from the fact that before 1984, Senators and Representatives did not participate in the Social Security program. Like all federal government employees at that time, members of Congress were covered by a pension plan, called the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS), that did not require payment of Social Security taxes and did not provide Social Security benefits. In 1983, Congress passed a law (P.L. 98-21) that required all federal employees first hired after 1983 to participate in Social Security. The law also required all members of Congress to participate in Social Security as of January 1, 1984, regardless of when they first entered Congress. Because the CSRS was not designed to coordinate with Social Security, Congress directed the development of a new retirement plan for federal employees, called the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), which does coordinate a federal pension WITH Social Security.

Jam| 7.25.10 @ 9:05AM

I was once a broker and offered the same free service. Even had an in with some companies and like you they stuck with high fees and no help. Was mind blowing. Now ten years removed I don't worry about ignorant people even though I tried to for many years. Funny how they don't want to make private ss. Bush had it right. It's your money 13% of your pay you will never see but hey I guess who needs a 13% pay raise except uncle Sam

CAM| 7.25.10 @ 10:41AM

You are so right! As one who was responsible for signing people up for our company's 401(K) program, I can tell you that the majority of people just arbitrarily- in moments- chose what they were investing in and never looked at it again. Many people have no idea what they can do to monitor funds. Same with IRAs. You have to take the time to learn about what's happening with your money, the control you have over investments, etc... and then take the time to make changes as the market is changing.

SB1070| 7.26.10 @ 12:39AM

Well said...good point on letting people know they need to manage their 401k. I bet more than half the people that dump money into those founds do no management whatsoever. Nothing even as simple as balancing their investments. Also, good points on SS if people realized it was originally put into place to supplement widows and not provide for care for individuals for 20 to 30 years...

CopyKatnj| 7.25.10 @ 12:19AM

Privatization keeps the money out the federal governments abusive spending of it!

Dimslie| 7.25.10 @ 12:34AM

No, the main reason the Republicans want to privatize it is so the Dims will have to tax it before they can steal it.

Skip| 7.25.10 @ 1:28AM

Bruce just remember who it was that took Social Security and moved it to the General Fund. His name was Lyndon Baines Johnson with the help from a DEMOCRAT CONGRESS, thats why it is broke

xcon| 7.25.10 @ 8:07AM

If you die before you get all your benefit who gets the money you paid in to SS?
Not your family.
Privatize it and guess what?
Your family gets to keep it.

dennis| 7.25.10 @ 8:59AM

Not after the death tax comes back.. then the govt gets it when you die

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 10:39AM

You mean the Paris Hilton tax, right, because unless you have over 5 million it won't apply to you at all.
It, in fact, applies to .01% of US families (about 400).
Lucky you to be one of them!

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 1:44PM

No one is lucky with these bloodsucking leeches in office right now--unless you're a union thug or FOO, Friend Of Obama.

lefty| 7.26.10 @ 7:51AM

hay! im a gang member, and things are lookin pretty good for me! dont forget about the guys that bring the magic dust!!!

Bob| 7.25.10 @ 9:32AM

Didn't you read it, Bruce wants to pay more taxes. I say, let him volunteer to pay all the extra tax he wants. Let him do to a government bureaucrat for his health care. Let him give away all his wealth, to spread it around.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 9:44AM

Bruce b, you poor boob, you don't have a clue as to what's going on. But take heart, a socialist regime will look after idiots like you because you obviously cannot think for yourself.

Cathy| 7.25.10 @ 2:31PM

Privatization would assure anyone can designate who receives SS benefits upon death, such as a Registered Domestic (gay) partner. All of you libs could have not had to yell, harass, spend money on trying to have residents in every state vote redefine the definition of marriage and gotten the only benefit really denied by not being "married". Instead you try to push your lifestyle on us in public exhibitions, like parades and "gay day" and have to get your agenda pushed by influencing legistlators and judges in the few states to redefine marriage.

truther| 7.24.10 @ 8:23PM

Reid is clueless. Obama could not care less about him or the speaker of the house. All he cares about is obama.

psutopgun| 7.24.10 @ 8:31PM

Whats this WE are going to have a public option. Reid, you are not even covered by the health care trash you and your commie buddies passed. You coverage remains the gold plated type. Will you give it up for the great system you have rammed down our throats!

sclarke| 7.25.10 @ 9:56AM

I always wonder what these idiots are thinking... Sure, THEY have the gold-plated health care plan. But their kids don't. Their grandkids won't. We know they don't care about what they're doing to US, the little people. But don't they care that their descendants are going to be stuck with the garbage plan they're sticking the rest of us with?? I just don't get it.

Marty E| 7.24.10 @ 8:36PM

Dear President Obama. Come November, the American people will bury their collective boot so far up Pelosi's and Reid's backside they will need the Jaws of Life to extract it. Then in November 2012, Mr. President we go after you and finish the job!!

Patricia Rubic| 7.24.10 @ 9:08PM

Yeah, right on!!! They are just catching onto what is going to happen NOW. Where have they been in La-La-Land. They refused to believe that the people of this country are mad as hell. They think that it is a right wing conspiracy. You, jerks. You are going to get what is coming to you. FOOLS.

Dean from Ohio| 7.24.10 @ 10:17PM

President Obama's deliberate failure to enforce immigration law sounds like a high crime to me. Or a misdemeanor. Either one gets an impeachment. And that before 2012.

Dimslie| 7.25.10 @ 12:37AM

Someone should file a writ of mandamus every hour until he enforces the law.

RedTruck| 7.24.10 @ 11:03PM

Pray God you are right - I hope the idiot voters who elected these two have come to realize their only interest is in themself - they are both senile and utterly disgusting.
Since the election of Barack Obama Americans have lost a lot of their freedom and if action is not taken by "we the people" - we will quickly become a third world country - that is the President's plan.

MhuCao| 7.25.10 @ 12:09AM

The Obamabots cannot bring themsleves to realize their error. They will find every way to justify their choice, and to point blame elsewhere. Those who feel ethnically-bound to Obama will never face reality. They cannot. They've lived in a racist, hate-filled sub-world since the '60's. Do not underestimate the scummage of the unions, ACORN offshoots, and the blind minorities, and their ability to steal an election. Don't assume they will magically go away in November. You've got to get out there and meet them mano-a-mano, or they will be telling you how you're supposed to pay slavery reparations by 2014.

RICH| 7.25.10 @ 6:00AM

Right on a sixe twelve boot will be the right size boot and from millions of Americans, These idiots ram this crap on us and like you have said they wont even take the insurance they want all of us to have , if its that good Harry then why wont you take it Public Option get a Life you moroon

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 9:48AM

Hey Marty, are you a racist or do you simply not care for the things your President is doing? I believe the racist crap has run it's string and has no clout, I for one don't give a rats a$$ if I'm called a racist. it's overused and ineffective. Bad government is bad government no matter what
color it is.

FAIRTV| 7.24.10 @ 8:37PM

Reid is one of the most disgusting persons in Congress. His lying, corruption, and bribery are legendary.
Why does the LDS church still claim him?

sasob| 7.24.10 @ 9:03PM

Why did the Roman Catholic Church continue to claim the Kennedys? ;-)

ds80| 7.24.10 @ 11:57PM

What does "claim the Kennedys" mean?

(any bets sasob is not Catholic ... is a cafeteria Catholic ... or just holds some kind of unforgiving grudge?)

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 9:53AM

To ds80, don't cover up stupidity by trying to be stupid. Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Jew we're all on the road to Perdition when we become democrats.

Homey| 7.24.10 @ 10:43PM

It is called a "tithing"...

duckboy| 7.24.10 @ 11:00PM

Fairtv,
He may be LDS, but you don't hear any us admitting it publickly!

Mhu Cao| 7.25.10 @ 12:12AM

The LDS is hanging on to Reid because of the asinine butt-kicking the moronic ultra-Christians gave to Romney in 2008. At least Reid has power, no matter how whorish and corrupt he is.

Jeremiah| 7.25.10 @ 12:47AM

Romney got his butt kicked in '08 because he's a RINO whore.

Please don't make him a martyr--he's not.

Dimslie| 7.25.10 @ 12:39AM

Because he keeps up with his genealogy.

thatsrite| 7.25.10 @ 5:03AM

That's a very good question, and one that makes me wonder why I should support Romney.

Janice| 7.25.10 @ 1:46PM

Romney's a weak RINO--his religious beliefs are irrelevant.

Robert | 7.24.10 @ 8:38PM

What are they going to do? Add in the public option behind our backs like they did with the 1099 lingo? What does a 1099 for ANYTHING you pay someone over $699 a year for have to do with healthcare? These politicians think they can do anything they want with OUR money. Social Security is working? Who do they think we are? Social Security is the BIGGEST bust of a social program we have. Ask them where the money is? oh,, and tell them an IOU doesn't count.

Dr. Pepper| 7.24.10 @ 8:39PM

For goodness sake, it's spelled "its" unless you're making a contraction of "it is" like I just did.

Libertarian | 7.24.10 @ 8:59PM

Dr.
"It's" is also used to show possession, yes?

Anthony | 7.24.10 @ 9:15PM

Its is the possessive form of it. It's is the contraction for "it is" and "it has."

Evad| 7.24.10 @ 10:33PM

No

p3orion| 7.25.10 @ 3:06AM

No , it's not. The possessive form of "it" is "its."

LN| 7.25.10 @ 5:45AM

No, "its" is possessive, "it's" is the contraction -- here is my rule to get it right -- never use the contraction, never use the apostrophe.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 10:04AM

Let me weigh in on this one:
it's = it is...... its = belonging to.
example: it's a nice house you've built for the cat.
The cat can be found in its house.

See dick run, see the cat run after dick, really!

It's the Democratic party that can be found in the cat house, and they will have a million reasons why it's a good thing.

sclarke| 7.25.10 @ 10:04AM

Or, as I've heard it put, "possessive its never splits."

buster| 7.25.10 @ 11:53AM

It's a stupid grammatical rule -- if English were at all consistent it would be either "it's" or "Obamas" to show posession.

ASL| 7.24.10 @ 8:42PM

Maybe Harry needs to read how England is trying to do away with their socialized medicine. they can't afford it and neither can we.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:10AM

"You Lie"
They are reorganizing it (too much bureaucracy) not doing away with it!

Jamie| 7.25.10 @ 1:48PM

ASL didn't lie--neither England nor the US can afford garbage Socialized Medicine.

Death Panels anyone?

ADM | 7.24.10 @ 8:47PM

Right, Social Security is successful, because redistributing wealth from a shrinking working class to an expanding group of people drawing from the pool is sound economics. I wonder if he's delusional enough to believe what he says or is just pandering to the senior citizen lobby for votes.

Rob| 7.24.10 @ 10:21PM

Since we the working class deserve this, I suggest him and all the very well to do dems donate all there income. Sounds fair to me.

Dimslie| 7.25.10 @ 12:43AM

What you're saying is true only because the Dims stole the FICA taxes that seniors paid in for decades.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:12AM

What you're saying is true only because the Dims stole the FICA taxes

Not true, and you cannot back this up.
Politicians of both stripes raided the fund, but the fund is solvent and will be for decades with just a little 'tweaking'.

atlas| 7.25.10 @ 8:14AM

Dan,
there are NO DOLLARS in the fund.
The "fund" contains treasury IOU's for future taxpayers to pay.

LBJ and the great society congress were the first to co-mingle the SS funds with the general fund.

buster| 7.25.10 @ 12:04PM

Dan, which place do you normally store your head, the sand or your *ss?

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 1:51PM

Mingo's a troll who lies his/her ass off all of the time.

Only an idiot and/or a lying schmuck troll would claim that SS is "solvent!" Fool.

NOBAMA| 7.24.10 @ 8:47PM

GOD help us all! Harry Reid is an idiot and these people are going to find out how far off base they are with the American People in 2010 and 2012. We will NOT be taken over by facists from the left.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 10:15AM

I hope you're kidding.

{unkindrublic| 7.24.10 @ 8:52PM

The entire DNC is clueless; the crapstorm will relegate this pack of theiving bastards to the dust-bin of history...unless an asteroid takes the whole lot of them and the rest of their moochers (particularly in DC) out before November.

Screw you Harry, Joe, Barney, Nancy, Chris, and Obama. (Did I forget Bill Nelson? Screw you too Bill.)

BILL| 7.24.10 @ 8:56PM

This fellow needs thrown out immediately. Social Security is BROKE !!!

Jay Dee| 7.25.10 @ 7:39AM

Ummmmmm, if SS is so solvent, why didn't seniors get their COL this year? Were the printing presses too busy cranking out stimulous, cash for whatever money they forgot the seniors? Does China hates seniors and wouldn't float them another big loan?

DanMingo what flavor is the kool-aid?

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 10:45AM

DanMingo what flavor is the kool-aid?
Reality flavored!
We have an economic crisis because the worlds' bankers have ripped us off for a few trillion dollars.
Unless the US government itself collapses and defaults, SS is solvent, and taking in as much now as it pays out without taking into account the reserve.
When Reagan raised SS contributions in '82 it was to put in the money needed for the baby boomers to retire on.
Other than the 8 years of Clinton (who ran a SURPLUS) Republicans have been in control of the exploding national debt which necessitated their raiding of the SS trust fund.
Yet, even with that, the fund is solvent (which you could find out for yourself in the provided links)

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 1:53PM

You're a liar. SS is broke and you know it, clown.
Go drown in your Marxist propaganda Kool-Aid.

Walt| 7.25.10 @ 7:48AM

As long as we keep raising taxes on workers, the Ponzi scheme can continue!

WhatThe?| 7.24.10 @ 8:57PM

What is the world are we doing? Wake up people and clean up these AH from office

HG| 7.24.10 @ 8:57PM

We the People are going to have a public option in November!

Rich| 7.25.10 @ 6:05AM

No we will not take your Public Option and shove it far up your anus. You Moroons want this then tell Reid and company to drop their coverage and take what they have Rammed down our throats , see they wont they no they screwed every American alive except those who want hand outs thier whole life.

WhatThe?| 7.24.10 @ 9:01PM

OK- should be What in the world are we doing? So jacked up I can't type.

VIVA LA RAZA | 7.24.10 @ 9:02PM

"We Are The Ones We've Been Waiting For...To Kick The Gringos OUT!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM

Dimslie| 7.25.10 @ 12:46AM

Mexicans are fine in their place. But, their place is Mexico.

jef | 7.24.10 @ 9:03PM

No your not Harry, your going to be siting in Nevada getting your nuts tucked. Hussein will be impeached or removed from office in 2012. You can gas bag your lies all day and all night Harry, but your gone in Nov. and the rest of you liars and criminals will follow. There will be no public option, there will be no government funded health care, it will all be gone in 10 years max.

kvetch| 7.24.10 @ 9:07PM

The really REALLY sad thing about the anger Americans feel at the moment is that they will vote against the democrats and republicans will win the seats - not on their merit and without a mandate to better or die. The republicans will roll back a few of the most egregious acts of the current load of idiots, but they will do things equally bad. What we must have to survive as a nation is a constitutional revision to limit the power of Congress, the Courts and the Executive. Government should all be virtually local - or as close to it as possible. That way you know where to deliver the manure when it's called for.

MaggieLyn| 7.24.10 @ 9:14PM

What you have stated is already in our Constitution! What we need is an electorate that will remind our officials, and candidates, of their responsibility to enforce that Constitution. There is no need for a Constitutional revision. Messing with our Constitution is getting into dangerous area and is unnecessary. Just enforce what we have.

Patricia | 7.24.10 @ 9:16PM

If the Republicans don't do what is expected of them by the citizens of this country, then their asses are out! We need term limits, immediately. No more that four years. I think that they are the smarter of the two parties and they see the light. The Dems don't give a damn. They just keep spending and pushing through bad legislation before the Nov. elections. They will all get theirs.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:21AM

If the Republicans don't do what is expected of them by the citizens of this country, then their asses are out!

That's why they are out right now; the policies the current crop of republican politicians advocate are the ones that led to the current financial crisis and they are not the right people to solve the problems.

Jay Dee| 7.25.10 @ 8:00AM

What planet are you living on? Google - Community Reinvestment Act - Clinton - Reno - Frank - Dodd - Shay-McCain Act from '07

Yes Republicans have their share of the blame but from '06 the Dem controlled Congress ramped up the over spending by Bush/Repubs to a level that is unsustainable.

Taking the government back from Rinos and Dems is the #1 priority of anyone who wants this country to be #1 in the world again. Corruption, either party, must be stopped.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 10:51AM

Corruption, either party, must be stopped.
Ditto!
Your other points, not so much. Example: trying to blame the reinvestment act for the real estate bubble and collapse requires ignoring some facts.
If the problem stems from poor people unable to make house payments, then the rates of foreclosure would be highest in areas where the poor are concentrated.
But they are not.
Fact; millionaires are the ones defaulting on their mortgage obligations.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07.....=2&hp;
"Whether it is their residence, a second home or a house bought as an investment, the rich have stopped paying the mortgage at a rate that greatly exceeds the rest of the population. "
You neglected to mention two unfunded wars, an unfunded medicare part 'D' and the $1 trillion added to the debt by the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 1:58PM

Frank and Dodd are the two democrat traitors who pushed the CRA which led to our financial meltdown, and they are are the two sponsors of the latest intrusive Fascist-Liberal, UNCONSTITUTIONAL power grab of the financial industry.

Democrats are traitors! Tar and feathering is too good for garbage like them!

Fascist Liberal Democrats are destroying our Republic and they have got to go!

sylvan frank| 7.24.10 @ 9:27PM

Kwetch has it correct.
Smaller, responsible government is the final answer. Our wonderful USA is sooo big and growing daily in population that we need smaller governments to govern more efficiently. Even "States Rights" are too removed from the accurate needs of the citizenry
in some situations. Certainly the present administration is taking the country in the wrong direction.

Retort| 7.24.10 @ 11:40PM

kvetch| said:
"What we must have to survive as a nation is a constitutional revision to limit the power of Congress, the Courts and the Executive. Government should all be virtually local "

Kvetch you are wrong! All my local Govt. officials are already in prison.

Jsmith| 7.24.10 @ 9:11PM

Reid is right (he may also be unemployed soon). As long as Republicans remain spineless, the progressive march to universal slavery for Americans will continue.

Anthony| 7.24.10 @ 9:19PM

Both excellent, albeit scary, points. It's easy to feel animosity towards the Dems and the tired "big government" policies they keep spouting but I wish the Repubs would grow a collective spine and actually start to stand for something. Where are Newt and Pete du Pont when you need them? The current Repub leadership makes me believe they don't understand the meaning of the word "leadership." Depressing, at best.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:24AM

the progressive march to universal slavery .
The universal slavery has come about through policies that allowed US based corporations to move their operations overseas where labor is much cheaper.
This has led to our current economic malaise and the lowering of average wages; this is the slavery that corporations have brought us, not 'progressives'.

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 2:01PM

Socialism pushed by Fascist Liberal Democrats is the REASON for the "PROGRESSIVE" march to universal slavery.

Socialism has NEVER worked where it's tried--and it won't work here; it will destroy us, too. Just look at Greece and Europe.

Jaydog| 7.24.10 @ 9:12PM

Since Reid is soon to be unemployed, he ought to be spending his time preparing his resume.

Wendy in OK| 7.24.10 @ 9:20PM

That's why he wanted the unemployment benefits extended (making them almost welfare), so he would have some money coming in after he's ousted in November.

Dunebug| 7.24.10 @ 10:20PM

Resume?? This turkey Reid will retire on over $25K/month for the rest of life....and with golden healthcare benefits. How will this compare with your retirement??

skyehawk| 7.24.10 @ 9:15PM

test 1

Chuck Booksh| 7.24.10 @ 9:16PM

Social Security might possibly been solvent if the 50+ Million babies aborted since 1973 were alive and working and paying into the fund. Us selfish babyboomers will pay the price for killing all these innocents!

Wendy in OK| 7.24.10 @ 9:21PM

Sadly, you already are paying the price. Sadly, we're ALL paying that price today and tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that... etc.

Randy| 7.25.10 @ 7:57AM

Right on Chuck! I have been thinking this a long time. I haven't heard any conservative talk show host, including Rush Limbaugh mention this in a long time.

skyehawk| 7.24.10 @ 9:24PM

if reid says single payer ..I'd believe him.!! these people are insidious ..just a day ago they rammed thru a un-employment bill supposedly to help people ,but these cads, rascals , evil doers made sure that only CERTAIN Americans were eligible .Americans that live in Utah are NOT eligible for the extension...nice huh ? next it will be your state ..remember /november

OBAMANATION @ NOTRE DAME | 7.24.10 @ 9:26PM

How's this for a public option?
88 JALIED, for refusing to partake in Adoration of "THE ONE" - http://www.FreeTheND88.org

skyehawk| 7.24.10 @ 9:29PM

ONLY 30 STATES are eligible for the extension ...(un-employment )

JoeMac| 7.24.10 @ 9:29PM

The Dems in Congress ought to get an absolute clue. Obama didn't invite Bubba to the WH to talk about this election, it was to talk about "triangulation" and all the other strategies that Morris et al. put together for the Clintons to protect their butts at the expense of their fellow travelers in Congress. The result was that B&H got reelected despite the blood-letting suffered by wretches down PA Ave., who suffered historical losses in '94. Obama's handlers are planning to use the same strategy - blame Congress. It's coming.

JM

lblanks| 7.24.10 @ 9:32PM

Is Harry Reid that stupid or does he believe the American people are?
Social Security is broke because Lyndon Johnson merged the trust fund into the general fund back in t he 1960's and congress has spent it! Or actually has given it away to illegals and others who never contributed.
Wake up folks, these guys are lying to you!

Cloward Piven| 7.24.10 @ 9:35PM

"You must have the courage to change."
Bubba, 1992

"Now let me be clear...Change has come to Amerika."
B.O., 2008

Comrades, we have won!
Communist International, 2010

Mike| 7.24.10 @ 9:38PM

I think it is time for the people of the United States to call for a Continental Congress and pass term limits, de-fund politicians health and pension funds, and put what politician make (salaries) back into the hands of the people who elect them. November is coming and the first step is to stop this Obama agenda before he can accomplish this agenda. Folks you can get out and vote in November or take up a musket with me in December.

Skip| 7.25.10 @ 1:36AM

I am with you brother

Walt| 7.25.10 @ 7:52AM

Except right now the delegates would all be democrats who could re-write the constitution as they please.

CAM| 7.25.10 @ 10:47AM

They already are rewriting the Constitution as they please!

George| 7.25.10 @ 2:02PM

What Constitution? Democrats use it for toilet paper.

Dion| 7.24.10 @ 9:40PM

He touts SS as the most succesfull social program ever. (long pause) hmmm.
I guess that is why the beltway crooks never want to address SS. Its just soooooooooo dam good why mess with. Lets give it to Mexicans to!!

ACE | 7.24.10 @ 9:44PM

They really need to drug test these politicians. He is the only one who believes the social security isn't going broke beside "Nutty." Pelosi. He has absolutely lost touch with reality to say social security isn't going broke. As Nurse Rachett would say it's medication time ,Harry.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:28AM

As I have commented above, SS is solvent for the next 3 decades at least.

"G"| 7.25.10 @ 10:54AM

WRONG!!!!You Believe the Propagandists. The SS fund is full of IOU's. When our spending overtakes our GNP in a few years, tell me then that it is good for another 3 decades. Do the math "Dick"

George| 7.25.10 @ 2:04PM

Mingo is a propagandist. Ignore the lying piece of excrement.

Everyone knows SS is dead--and our Republic is close behind.

richard| 7.24.10 @ 9:45PM

When all the countries in Europe that have almost gone bankrupt due to nationalized healthcare and similar socialist programs and are now moving away from socialism, Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the other democrats are transforming the US into a socialist state. They are the true enemies of the United States and must be stopped. But that will not be easy because over the last 50 years, the socialist democrats have built their ranks by pandering to the the elderly (who are now the greediest rather than the greatest generation), the slackers, overpaid government employees at all levels, lazy, unproductive unions , illegal immigrants and all the other groups that feed on the government. Those are the groups that continue to support Obama and the democrats and their numbers are legion. But in the end, their theft of the wealth from the productive members of society will reach it's limit and they will be doomed. The wealthy, who are constantly vilified by the socialist democrats, will ultimately be fine because they will move their money and their families elsewhere. That's already occurring within the US as the more productive and wealthy people have been leaving the bankrupt "blue" states in droves to states that are more business friendly and, accordingly, have less onerous taxes. I hope the blue states continue to suffer from their decades of over spending and over taxing. That's the only way this failed socialist movement will be stopped.

Lone Gunman| 7.24.10 @ 10:37PM

Sorry Nate, but you're one of "them" with that talk. How about the CBO scores on this "obummercare" (sic) health care bill that was suppose to be deficit neutral? NADDA according to the newest CBO scores now! And that "executive" order that supposidly forbids my tax dollars being used for abortions? Since when can a president issue an "executive order" that nullifies a Constitutional law? And since when is it acceptable to cut 500 BILLION dollars out of my Medicare to pay for coverage of 32 MILLION people that are either too stupid or too lazy to provide for themselves? I worked over 40 years, all the while paying into a system that is not bankrupt and I'm not happy about ANY of what went down, and, I'm spending money like a drunk sailor in a bunch of different states trying to get conservatives elected that promise to repeal this (sic) "obummercare" circle jerk ASAP!

Nah Nate, I'll keep my God, guns and guts, you can keep the "change" you can believe in!

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 7:32AM

You appear to be misinformed on a few things.
For instance; I hope the blue states continue to suffer from their decades of over spending and over taxing.
Fact; red states take more aid from the federal government, while blue states pay for it!
http://taxprof.typepad.com/tax....._feed.html
The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States.

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 2:05PM

California is bankrupt because of the Leftist policies of socialist traitors like Mingo. Tar and feathering is too good for Fascist Liberals like him/her.

Nate| 7.24.10 @ 9:45PM

Folks, listen:

We already HAVE a public option.

A federal law -- that no Republican has suggested we repeal -- requires that people be treated for serious illness or injury without regard to their ability to pay for treatment.

Why?

Because when countries become wealthy they purchase -- civilization. And it's not civilized to have the poor dying on sidewalks outside of hospitals.

No one wants them to, and no one wants to repeal the law that sees to it they don't.

O.K.? So far, so good?

About 10% of every DIME you pay for insurance or out of your pocket at a doctors goes to cover the uninsured who are protected by the law I alluded to above. About 50 billion dollars a year worth. The OTHER 50 billion or so it costs comes from local and federal funds -- from TAXES.

So we pay about 100 billion a year for the poor to receive treatment when they are seriously ill.

For LESS than that amount of money we could give these people regular medical care, which gets more bang for the buck, which is more humane, more cost efficient, and all around a better idea. Naturally, we're not really doing that, but we're doing something like it with the new health care reform.

Essentially, we're starting to make the public, socialized health care system we already have more cost efficient.

FREECracker| 7.24.10 @ 10:26PM

What a bunch of BS

Nate| 7.24.10 @ 11:11PM

What's BS?

Do you disagree that the law I refer to exists?

Do you disagree with my numbers?

Look: as a society, we've decided we are not going to let the poor die on city sidewalks.

We have MORE than a public option.

We have SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

Only we don't administer it efficiently.

And no one -- NO ONE -- is saying we should repeal that law. No one. Thus, everyone agrees we have and should have socialized medicine. Right now, it's set up so that insurance companies profit enormously from this system. We could make the same amount of money -- or less -- go further and do more with less complexity, stress, and waste. That would be what we on the left want.

ds80| 7.25.10 @ 12:04AM

Lovely brown eyes you have, darling, sweetie Nate.

"NO ONE -- is saying we should repeal that law. No one. Thus, everyone agrees we have and should have socialized medicine."

I say we repeal the law. Ergo, in the appropos words of Vinny Gambini, everything you just said is bullish*t.

Wally| 7.24.10 @ 10:54PM

Go back to your slimeball convention, freak.

JD Erickosn| 7.25.10 @ 1:15AM

Couldn't have said it better myself Nate. Spot On.

JD Erickson| 7.25.10 @ 1:17AM

Nate, didnt realize that your comments got all the lefties upset until I read their pathetic attempts at a reply. Liberalism is a disease.

Nobama| 7.25.10 @ 3:08AM

Now all of us will be left to die on the sidewalk because of ObamaCare. They're called "DEATH PANELS!"

Walt| 7.25.10 @ 8:04AM

Nate,
Partially correct. Non-paying individuals do get health care under the current system.

However, you make a very large assumption that putting gov't in charge is the way to make it work better. Government is not a model of efficiency as you claim it is. Even when well intentioned it is full of mismanagement, career people who hide behind incompetence, etc. Not to speak of corruption.

How is the current health care law going to work? By forcing people to buy insurance, but only insurance with benefits explicitly dictated by the government. Want a more comprehensive plan? Well I hope you are OK with a 40% tax surcharge on that.

If as you say it is less costly and more efficient to just public option the uninsured, why all the new taxes in the health care bill? Why force everyone to buy insurance? Why limit (through crazy taxation) private plans that fall outside the gov't mandate? Why can't they just sail through on current tax revenue if it's going to "save" money?

The reason is that there is a big difference between a basic minimum and a complete health entitlement. Non-payers are being equated in terms of plan with those who work all their life. It is a redistribution of the property (money, etc) of workers, and the gov't always takes its cut as well as the increase in power and control over the populace.

Our skyrocketing medical costs are due to patients being disconnected from the costs of their care. That is why HSA's work. When a patient can get a "free" MRI, sure why not. But in an HSA many patients will elect not to if it is not really critical; after all that money comes out of their pocket.

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 2:09PM

Nate and Mingo always include a little bit of truth in their BIG LIE! Goebbels is their mentor and hero; they learned well from the Master of propaganda.

Government intrusion seriously ijured our health care system and ObamaCare will kill it.

marty| 7.24.10 @ 9:51PM

Who is we? Those who would profit most from it? To an utter, dead certainty that would not be the American people. The people are as good as dead anyway if this Congress sits any longer. Isn't it time to go on vacation? Is there even one milligram of honesty or honor in Washington? No, sorry, it's one endless flood of disgusting deception, and the whole government should resign in one shuddering spasm of penitence and shame.

David| 7.24.10 @ 9:53PM

Mr Reid and his cronies (Nobama & Pelosi) are hell-bent on taking the US down that socialist slope.
England just announced that it is looking at moving away from socialized medicine and going to the private sector again.
What fools we have for political leaders.

Josh| 7.24.10 @ 9:58PM

What planet is Harry Reid on? WTF does he think that Americans are so stupid to swallow is lies. He needs to be voted out of office.He is talking like an enemy of the state.

JekyllIsle| 7.24.10 @ 10:06PM

Wall St likes the O Man because he paid them heavily & the general public cheered him while he did it.
All you need to look at is the Reserve Rate, the Multiplier Effect and the trail of money from Large Banks like Citi to see what is going on.
We just got robbed out of $1 Trillion Dollars and the Politicians want to do it again, while the most ignorant people who can't grasp where money comes from thinks Obama is saving us

Logic| 7.24.10 @ 10:06PM

This is what needs to be done to really drain the swamp (including pelosi):

- Vote in a Republican majority in Nov
- If they dont get their act together, start bringing in Independents and third party in two years.

The minute you have a congress fighting more amongst themselves, the less time they have to conspire against the public.

Don Hawkins | 7.24.10 @ 10:07PM

This man and his Progressive parricides are bringing this once great country to its knees. We are on the edge of its destruction and no one seems to care. Why doesn't anyone seem to care what they are doing to us. Is it to late to save us?

Marty| 7.24.10 @ 10:12PM

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world," Only a complete idiot would say that a bankrupt government ponzi scheme is anything but a total disaster.

Al Phresceaux| 7.24.10 @ 10:15PM

I do wish everyone would stop referring to those people as 'progressive'. Progress means advancement or improvement. What they are after is merely change and change is never betterment .

Lone Gunman| 7.24.10 @ 10:49PM

No Al, they are Progressives after the movement started with that American Destroyer Woodrow Wilson! Hell, even Hitlery Clinton claims to be a Progressive!

They were run out of town on a rail back then and now, 80 years later they are back in force to try to turn the USA into a third world country! So far, looks like they are doing a good job of it but INHO the "jig" is up and November will tell the tale. Buy lots of guns and ammo people cuz you're going to need them!

Captain Ahab| 7.24.10 @ 10:15PM

The dogs are not eating the dog food....Obama et al are doomed......soon!

james boyd| 7.24.10 @ 10:19PM

Nobody will believe it. But the anti-American Obama, Reid, Pelosi thugs shall meet their doom in a barage of bullets that recovers the American freed0m and Constitution from the hands of traitors who should be shot on sight. Ballots are useless when the voters are brain dead, immoral racist parasites, communists and pro-Islam and the elections are corrupted by Acorn, felons, illegal immigrants, etc.. But bullets won freedom in 1776, has preserved freedom in many wars since then, and will again- if there are enough Americans left that have the conviction and guts to fight for it. It will take a bloody civil war but freedom is worth it. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition and we'll all stay free. Nothing else will do it.

FREE| 7.24.10 @ 10:29PM

I stand with thee.

Nate| 7.25.10 @ 12:22AM

This is interesting. This barely misses being a threat to the life of the president -- a felony.

Thanks, American Spectator! You guys really show your love of country in such beautiful ways.

Interloper| 7.25.10 @ 1:02AM

Stop whining, loser. You're the big tough guys, right?

WGAS| 7.25.10 @ 8:24AM

Where were all you oh so sensitive lefties when GWB was threatened in every thread???

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 11:07AM

That does'nt count, when Bush was threatened it
was celebrated but when the anointed one is threatened that's another matter.

cuthean| 7.25.10 @ 11:18AM

We are with you. 500 cells of 3 men could decapitate this communist threat. Spread the word. God Bless.

jumbo jim | 7.24.10 @ 10:20PM

Social Security would be solvent if the politicos hadn't been robbing the money out of it since 1980. I love Ronald Reagan, but he was the one that began the robbery. He convinced the Supreme Court that the monies in the Social Security accounts were really just general fund money and should be spent. wahoo! just one of the republicrats.

BillyBob117| 7.24.10 @ 10:39PM

Hey JJ, you are dead wrong
The vote to move the SS$ into the general fund was tied.-------VP Al Gore broke the tie and the funds were never seen again---------The dems also passed the bill to tax SS$-------sorry but this is the truth--

Interloper| 7.24.10 @ 10:56PM

Forget it BB--old Jumbo is sitting on his brains, and the sight ain't pretty.

Steve| 7.25.10 @ 8:28AM

It was the democRATS who started to use SS funds in the 60's. Look it up jacka$&.
Reagan never had a republican controlled congress.

Barack Mugabe| 7.25.10 @ 4:23PM

Was also the Democrats -- who claim every election that Republicans want to cut social security -- who actually DID cut social security, when they taxed benefits.

Marc M| 7.24.10 @ 10:24PM

If Reid wins re-election it is a testament to how stupid this country has become.

FREE| 7.24.10 @ 10:32PM

No it isn't, it is a testament to the total corruption with the people counting the votes.
I think it was a German in the 30's that said it doesn't matter who votes but who count the votes.

HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMM

Joe Doakes| 7.24.10 @ 10:41PM

Stalin said that. And if you counted wrong they would shoot you. Sound familiar?

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 3:11AM

Sorry FREE; Jefferson said it best, "People get the government they deserve."

It's up to us to clean house in November--no excuses.

Beerman309| 7.24.10 @ 10:29PM

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world,"

WTF? Social Security is a goners. I'm 32 and never gonna see an SSI check if things keep going the way they are now. Anything run by government is going broke. Look at the postal service too. Either these jerks have NO clue or they really are commies trying to completely take over.

BillyBob117| 7.24.10 @ 10:35PM

The said thing is there are those in NV who will vote for this person.

During a question and answer session, Reid also argued against "fear tactics of those who say Social Security is going broke. It's not."

This is part of a strategy I described earlier this week, with Democrats renewing the spectre of Social Security cuts to use as an issue to use against Republicans.

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world," he said.

Case is closed on Dingy Reid and all the libs.

Anthony| 7.24.10 @ 10:39PM

Harry Reid is and absolute 100% JACKASS!!! Someone needs to bitch slap him s0 hard it knocks out his taxpayer paid dental work.

2discern| 7.24.10 @ 10:43PM

What in the world is this moron thinking? Did he forget his meds or what? Th healthcare bill is going to be repealed. Why? Unconstitutional. Plainly and simply defined.

The agenda by barry soertero is clearly being recognized as a socialist/Marxist platform. Not to mention he has not even been vetted. And to that you say-yes he has. Really. Show any documentation of his past, school records, passport, original birth cert., college thesis, name change since adoption in Indonesia , etc. Produce the authentic documentation and all is fine. So far to date- zero, nada, zilch, only an executive order on 1/21/09 umm? 24 hrs. in office sealing all records of his past.

The charges of MISPRISON of FELONY are far reaching. The complicity is immense. Oh, wait what is that smell -sniff, sniff, the odor of fraud and deceit coming from the sewer of the white house and oval office. The liar-in-chief is a teleprompter reading puppet. He is the actor for the elites of global power.

TGT| 7.24.10 @ 10:54PM

"We're going to have a public option," Reid said. "It's just a question of when."

Yeah, because the watered down version of Obamacare that the Dems barely wrangled through was SOOOOO popular with the American people. The Dems lost Ted Kennedy's seat (whose "life-long cause" was health care) beacuse the republican Scott Brown ran as the 41st vote against Obamacare. The republicans are set to make HUGE gains in the fall elections as a result of, among other things, Obamacare. Keep it up Harry!

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 10:57AM

And Scott Brown, much to the teabaggers dismay, has been voting with the democrats.
Health care reform was so unpopular in large part because it did not include a public option.
You, apparently oppose a public option, and thus side with the insurance companies about to get 35 million new customers.

Jeremiah| 7.25.10 @ 2:12PM

Mingo, I'm sure perverts like you are experts at teabagging. Enjoy the political bloodbath coming your way in November. You lying, cheating Fascist Liberals deserve it.

Barack Mugabe| 7.25.10 @ 4:27PM

"Health care reform was so unpopular in large part because it did not include a public option."

So a majority of people favor repeal because it doesn't include a public option?

Yeah, sure, OK. I'm sure that hilarity plays well on your favorite fringe blog.

"You, apparently oppose a public option, and thus side with the insurance companies about to get 35 million new customers. "

No, we oppose the Marxist, unAmerican, unconstitutional bill in its entirety -- as does a majority of the country -- and want it completely repealed.

ralph schlitzenliker| 7.24.10 @ 10:56PM

Reid is to stupid to realize that the entire country is going broke

Nate| 7.24.10 @ 11:26PM

Ralph --

The entire middle class is going broke, not the entire country. The upper 2% of earners have been doing fine for a decade; they took a little hit in 08, but don't worry, everything's going just fine for them now. It's only if you have to work hard to cover your mortgage or send your kids to school that you face going broke. And no, the Republicans aren't doing anything to help you -- don't worry! Everything's fine! Have a nice day! Freedom Fries! Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! If we don't fight them over there, they'll follow us home! See? Aren't you feeling better?

Interloper| 7.25.10 @ 1:01AM

You commie aholes have screwed everybody except your corrupt cronies on Wall Street and the filthy Union boss thugs who own you.

The political blood-bath coming your way can't come too soon!

Dave| 7.24.10 @ 10:58PM

These F-ing jerks do anything they want regardless of what sensible Americans desire. It still amazes me that some people are such dolts that they think Democrats are doing the will of the people. I can not wait for the next time I come face to face with a Democrat congressman. We want our republic back, and will work very hard to get it back.

Dave| 7.24.10 @ 10:58PM

These F-ing jerks do anything they want regardless of what sensible Americans desire. It still amazes me that some people are such dolts that they think Democrats are doing the will of the people. I can not wait for the next time I come face to face with a Democrat congressman. We want our republic back, and will work very hard to get it back.

Timothy Crump| 7.24.10 @ 10:59PM

Sure...they can keep Social Security afloat....by refusing benefits to American workers. A legally immigrated alien who never worked anywhere, can get monthly benefits, but if you earn benefits as an American Worker, and then later earn a pension as a civil servant, you get screwed out of most of the benefit you worked for.

Dave| 7.24.10 @ 11:04PM

Hey Nevada, don't take the short bus to the voting booth this time.

GinaC| 7.24.10 @ 11:11PM

Angle needs to use that quote in her ads!

RicardoCabeza| 7.24.10 @ 11:12PM

IF only Nevada hadn't acted like a bunch of babies throwing a fit and nominated somebody who could win against Reid this wouldn't be a problem. Instead the state had a hissy fit and nominated Angle who is a nut case and will lose. Good job Nevada in proving a "point" You screwed over the rest of us. And for the record Thanks Connecticut for doing the same you morons.

Rick| 7.25.10 @ 12:42AM

Ricardo, get a clue! I am a Nevada voter / Angle voter and she is a regular conservative person not a polished and fake politoco like Sue Lowden. Angle believes in small govt and will fight for it. Too bad you swallowed Harry's expensive and dishonest ads depicting her as a nut case. Harry loves your kind of voter, easily swayed by utter BS!! BTW Angle WILL win in Nov.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 12:58AM

Ricardo's probably an illegal.

Nate| 7.25.10 @ 8:11AM

That does it, Remember.

You've had plenty of competition, but you've one the day.

You are, the most obnoxious and foolish douche bag to post on this site.

With utterly NO evidence, you've accused someone of being "an illegal," showing just what a bigoted, stupid creep you are.

Tim*| 7.25.10 @ 10:52AM

" The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Nevada finds Angle with 46% support, while Reid earns 43% of the vote. Six percent (6%) like some other candidate in the race, and five percent (5%) remain undecided. "

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 11:09AM

Cool it Nate, you're showing your liberal tolerance.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:23PM

"..you've ONE the day." Your mean insults would hurt my feelings terribly and make me cry (sniff, sniff) if you had half a brain, libtard. Try not to butcher our English language when you shoot off your dumb democrat troll mouth.

You're a perfect, stupid example of so many puked out by our disastrous public school system destroyed by Fascist Liberal Teachers' Unions.

I wish you were all illegal so we could kick your traitorous asses out of our country.

Barack Mugabe| 7.25.10 @ 4:38PM

"With utterly NO evidence, you've accused someone of being "an illegal," showing just what a bigoted, stupid creep you are. "

LMAO -- gotta love the feigned indignation of the leftist who is offended by charges not backed up by evidence (in this case, on a freakin Internet forum).

This coming from the party whose leaders attribute opposition to Maobama as "racist," whose corrupt media apparatus conspired to tar as "racist" any journalist who reported honestly about Reverend Wright, Ayers, and all of Maobama's radical associations and activities, which concocted fake documents in an effort to smear Bush, and which tried to peddle the laughable lie that Bush was involved in 9/11.

But a message on an Internet forum is what it takes to get him all worked up.

Great stuff!

LN| 7.25.10 @ 5:58AM

I'm a NV voter too; although I voted for Tarkanian in the primary I do not think Angle is a nut and I am definitely going to vote for Angle.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 11:00AM

Haha, good one.
Angle had her own web page put up by Reid and she complained.
Haha. Her own words, and she complained it was unfair.
Too bad you swallowed Harry's expensive and dishonest ads depicting her as a nut case
He used her own words to expose her as a nutcase.
What a tool!

Nate| 7.25.10 @ 7:29PM

Harry Reid's Nevada has the HIGHEST unemployment rate in the country at 14.2%!!

Good job, hapless Harry.
THROW HARRY OUT!!

ELECT SHARRON ANGLE 2010!!

MAC59| 7.25.10 @ 12:11AM

Progressives are like cockroaches. They sneak in every so often, gorge themselves, and p00p all over the place. The only recourse is to call an exterminator, i.e. the energized, thoroughly-disgusted electorate.

Nate| 7.25.10 @ 12:17AM

MAC
Always good to hear from an explicitly fascist reactionary. I wish more of your compeers were at least decent enough to let everyone know the tenor of their thoughts.

MAC59| 7.25.10 @ 12:27AM

You're most welcome although I don't see how expressing outrage at overtaxation and government intervention eroding my liberties is fascist. It's quite the opposite.

Jeremiah| 7.25.10 @ 12:54AM

You're lucky the ugly little Goebbels troll didn't call you a racist!

Racist/Fascist are the only two words in the Commie's vocab.

Interloper| 7.25.10 @ 12:56AM

I just thank God we have the 2nd Amendment--it's the only thing between us and Commie violence.

They know we will defend ourselves against their treachery.

Barack Mugabe| 7.25.10 @ 4:43PM

It's even more fun hearing fringe leftists trying to defend the government's fascist act of forcing citizens to purchase commercial products against their will.

Dave| 7.25.10 @ 12:14AM

The Democrats are safe in November. Unfortunately, the electorate is easily led astray, and the Republicans just aren't playing the game to win.

Nobama| 7.25.10 @ 12:51AM

Screw yourself, Concern troll. The loser libs are going to get their sorry arses kicked in November.

Dave| 7.25.10 @ 1:05AM

Yeah... I have heard that line before. How come Obama is President and the Nan & Harry show is getting ready for its third season. I give you a B- at calling me names. But you get a solid F at knowing why the "loser libs" are winning against Republicans. I would love to be proved wrong, but "Screw yourself" isn't gonna work very well as a conservative campaign slogan.

Nobama| 7.25.10 @ 3:16AM

What are you doing besides complaining?

I'm sick and tired of whiny, weak willies on our side. Get off your lazy butt and be constructive; your fatalism is destructive.

Grow a pair!

Dave| 7.25.10 @ 1:08AM

please note... there are multiple Dave posters on this thread.

Lance| 7.25.10 @ 10:41AM

It doesn't matter WHO wins in the fall, this COUNTRY will lose if we keep putting the same brand of crap into office. VOTE INDEPENDENT OR LIBERATARIAN OR ANYONE OTHER THAN THE TWO PARTY ASS HATS WE ARE STUCK WITH!!! Reps and Dems have destroyed this once great country with their "party first" crap. Time to wipe them all out and start again!

Nobama| 7.25.10 @ 2:52PM

Sorry, Lance; if we vote third party the Fascist Liberals will win. Happens every time.

Vote for the most CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN you can find if you want to save our republic; otherwise we are doomed!

SubjectofUSSA| 7.25.10 @ 12:27AM

Anyone who's under 40 knows Social Security is an absolute joke

Nobama| 7.25.10 @ 12:50AM

Plenty of Americans over 40 know SS is a joke, too.

ken| 7.25.10 @ 12:31AM

Can anyone seriously doubt that Harry Ried's comment, in his capacity as Majority leader, that the war in Iraq was lost, gave some degree of comfort to the enemy (even a little).

Good! Now open up your pocket copy of the Constitution of The United States to section 3 of the 14th amendment, and you will see that Harry Reid is not a US Senator, nor can he be, unless he gets 2/3 of both houses to remove this burden from him.

He continues to hold on to the post, showing his contempt for the Constitution and the people that it protects.

veteranoutrage | 7.25.10 @ 12:32AM

www.veteranoutrage.com
God has already shown me the forth comming economic collapse
it is imminent..
Your only real hope is in God now..
For ALL democrats have turned AGAINST the american people and become our SWORN ENEMIES..

Same thing for the republicans who sold out to obama
They are all the enemies of the citizens of the united states of america..

Jasonn| 7.25.10 @ 12:42AM

Harry means to say, "Stupid American people, we're going to ram health care up your arse whether you want it or not!"

Dave| 7.25.10 @ 12:53AM

He could actually say what you suggest and it would work. It is a little like yelling "hey Stupid" on a crowded sidewalk. Most of the people who turn around figure you are talking to someone else and want to see who you are calling out.

Historyshowsus| 7.25.10 @ 12:53AM

This senile old fool needs to go. Harry Reid still clinging to the viability of a failed system while Great Britain just announces they are going to decentralize health care......because it doesnt work. Get a clue Harry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07.....=2&hp;

WTXPatriot| 7.25.10 @ 12:54AM

Former Senator Harry Reid will never see a public option or anything else Odumbo and his minions are trying to force on Americans. They will be in the unemployment lines themselves come November 2010 and 2012. God help us all until that time. No more piling on of unsustainable debt. They all have to go, or we can say to the America we all love-- R.I.P.

Rob V.| 7.25.10 @ 12:56AM

Reid...your a ScumBag! Happy job hunting in November.

Rowdy Boots| 7.25.10 @ 1:04AM

This is getting more BIZARRE by the minute. Am I crazy or does Big Mouth Biden actually think that the Republicans are "wildly out of step" with the country?

WE ARE THE COUNTRY AND THE CONSERVATIVES AND INDEPENDENTS ARE WELL INFORMED, INTELLIGENT AND WE DO NOT FALL FOR YOUR PHONEY HAIRBALL COMMENTS THAT CHOKE FROM YOUR MOUTH BIDEN.

yep.

'nuff said.

Rowdy Boots

Carl| 7.25.10 @ 1:05AM

Harry Reid is a henchman of Lucifer himself.

ringmaster76120| 7.25.10 @ 1:11AM

My SS money is completely safe...It is in a Congressional "lock box"...Ted Kennedy told me so...And...I have some Beach Front property in Nevada that I am going to sell you.

stevereenie| 7.25.10 @ 1:39AM

So Harry doesn't think that Social Security is broke. I wonder what he is smoking. Did he know it is under funded by $50 Trillion at least.

amplitude jones| 7.25.10 @ 1:40AM

he may be surprised when the public opts to hang the god damned scum traitor pig democrats.

Leo| 7.25.10 @ 1:44AM

Complaining on here won't do a think . We need to vote these bums out of office. We MUST donate $$$ to conservative candidates and all of you who NEVER EVEr were active in politics need to shut down your computers and get out and participate. Join a Tea Party Group , work for conservative candidates and cough up a few bucks for the cause. If we don't the likes of Reid and Pelosi will continue to spit in our faces and destroy life as we know it in America.

Tommy| 7.25.10 @ 1:59AM

The reasons SS is going broke is that congress have raped the fund and so many people are on SS disability now it is unbelievable. Worse thing government allowed was letting lawyers advertise on TV, you get turned down for SS disability and they will get it for you, I guess that means they will tell you how to lie right so you get it. Lets get these people checked out and kick off the drug addicts and drunks. We paid for this all our lives and before long if we don't watch it they will raise the age so high we will be almost dead or dead before we qualify.

smb12321| 7.25.10 @ 8:33AM

NO, SS is broke (not "going") because of simple economics. Fewer and fewer workers are paying in vs more collecting. When established the birth rate was much higher. Europe is having even a worst time since their population is actually declining. Eventually, all private capital will be consumed and we reach the dead end.

Jim| 7.25.10 @ 2:02AM

Arrest all the Traitors! Enough of these anti-American Commies!

Mike| 7.25.10 @ 3:06AM

I think that most of the patriotic voters in this country would much rather have a public hanging than a public option.

Interloper| 7.25.10 @ 3:19AM

---Public HANGINGS!---

DAnMingo| 7.25.10 @ 11:07AM

Hangings are only appropriate for really serious crimes, and greedy stealing, unfortunately, is not a hanging offense in the US. In fact, it is often admired (Wall Street anyone?)
Treason (like revealing the identity of an intelligence officer/operation), crimes against humanity (illegal wars and genocide, war crimes and torture) are and should be hanging offenses.
Clinton (Bill) side by side with Bush (W) for a start

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 2:49PM

Trolling should be a hanging offense, too--don't ya think, Mingo?

Mike| 7.25.10 @ 4:13AM

Definitely! Make it plural, as in HANGINGS.

Thomas| 7.25.10 @ 4:22AM

VOTE! VOTE! VOTE and get rid of these people. VOTE for candidates that will represent you the people. If there was ever a time in history when each and every vote counted this is that time. VOTE!

Thomas| 7.25.10 @ 4:24AM

I am HOPING there will be a CHANGE in November! V-O-T-E them all OUT!

Janet| 7.25.10 @ 5:18AM

England is decentralizing health care because they know it doesn't work. Why are we going to do a failed program? Because
King Odumbo,Prince Harry and Pope Pelosi say so.
Vote the bums out. They are ruining this country.

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 11:10AM

England's system is totally socialized and an entirely different entity from the system recently passed.
There is no valid way to compare the two.
England is trying to put the decisions into the hand s of doctors instead of a centralized board, but they will still have the same basic socialized system.

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 2:48PM

YOU LIE!

rowley| 7.25.10 @ 5:27AM

The progressives are pounding nails in our coffins with death panels while England revives Health to the people.

Larry| 7.25.10 @ 5:28AM

A VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBER IS A VOTE FOR CONTINUED UNEMPLOYMENT.

Al| 7.25.10 @ 6:59AM

I keep reading all these comments about ousting the Dems in Nov. From what the polls say they are leading in the race. The American people have the attention span of a nat. They will surcome to all the rederick in Nov.

greyfox| 7.25.10 @ 11:16AM

"They will surcome to all the rederick in Nov."
Is there any hop?

Middle of the roader| 7.25.10 @ 7:14AM

Hooray Harry and Nancy. You guys I love. Obama needs to go thought. Hillary 2012.

Mark| 7.25.10 @ 7:32AM

"Law Enforcement" is the great enabler for this swill. Be sure to thank them appropriately!

Rick| 7.25.10 @ 7:41AM

The dems are toast, Harry Reid is toast, they will not see any power again for many, many years and after the election in November, the socialists and Marxists will crawl back under the rocks they have been hiding under for decades. Good riddance.

DrJ| 7.25.10 @ 7:46AM

Take everything DanMingo said during his 7:02AM post on 7.25.10, reverse it completely, and you will have the truth.

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 2:47PM

Exactly! Mingo's a Fascist Liberal troll paid to lie.

Ignore the lying creep.

Cliff| 7.25.10 @ 8:49AM

Isn't it interesting that when a Republican is in the Whitehouse, the Dems claim SS is in deep trouble, when they are in control, it seems just fine.

justin| 7.25.10 @ 9:40AM

Not true. Republicans have been trying to fix SS for years, but the Democrats always block their efforts. You and your Democratic friends continually try to rewrite history. Sad to say you are more often than not successful at this strategy, due to the uninformed public.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:45PM

LiberalSodomy (good name--it fits!) is a Fascist Liberal troll trying to incite violence.

Ignore the POS!

liberalsodomy| 7.25.10 @ 9:04AM

These people won't stop until their families begin to pay the price with targetted assassinations. This is the only way. Our problems cannot be addressed at the ballot box. We're going to have to hit the communists with asymmetric warfare.

justin| 7.25.10 @ 9:37AM

This is utter and complete nonsense. Register to vote them out of office and then they will stop.

liberalsodomy| 7.25.10 @ 10:12AM

The penalty for treason is death. Time to remind "our" representatives.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:42PM

Don't give in to Fascist Liberals pushing violence--it's exactly what Obama wants so he can declare Martial Law.

Why do you think he sent the NAACP out to call Tea Partiers racists? Fascist Liberals want us to become violent so they have an excuse to call out their BrownShirts.

Obama's a race hustling, race baiting pimp.
Don't get mad, get even.

BillyBob | 7.25.10 @ 9:19AM

The liberal (progressive marxist) does not care. Harry will go to work for George Soros at a million dollars a year salery when he loses as will the the other democrats.

Charlie Wooster| 7.25.10 @ 9:21AM

Mr Reid you said "the Iraq war is lost". You were wrong then and you are wrong now. Your days are numbered.

L| 7.25.10 @ 9:25AM

We need term limits on congress.... we need to make sure they is never more of one group over another. BUT first we need to get rid of pelosi. reid. franks obama, all the ppl that screwed up and now we have to go back and fix

YankeeI| 7.25.10 @ 9:49AM

We already have a public option! It's called an election. The corrupt lifers like Reid need to be cleared out now! This bull about my guy is OK no matter how corrupt he is because he brings home earmarks has got to stop if we want a clean fresh government. Wake up people! Does a bridge or a museum celebrating corrupt politicians help the general public? Whose money is anyway? They simply steal it and redistribute it amongst their friends. Enough already!

David Raiford | 7.25.10 @ 3:04PM

You know, I agree with most of the comments here but it's hard to keep blaming the politicians (both democrats and republicians) when we, yes WE are stupid enough to keep on electing them. Maybe we need to form a "Pitchfork and Broom Brigade". All of us who served with the 101st in Nam know what that means. Yes I'd call it term limits.

leftnutterhater| 7.25.10 @ 9:53AM

That SS is a bankrupt ponzi scheme is for even the most mindless twit plain to see. Don't forget that farcical "clinton surplus " which was nothing more than grabbing SS and putting it in as a debt payment to make their numbers scheme a political football of lies. You know if an accountant tried this in the real world he'd be in jail !!!. Lord Oblahma and Darth bite me have done more damage to the private sector and government at all levels than any predecessor before..oh maybe excepting FDR.... and we all know how much FDR screwed the pooch !.

I hate progressives| 7.25.10 @ 9:54AM

If we can not vote them out in Nov, we must execute them one by one!

Lance| 7.25.10 @ 10:39AM

I do not condone actual assisinations but I DO condone killing their careers as tax sucking leeches and then detroy their financial lives as they have destroyed ours. Killing this asshole would only relieve him from the disaster he and his peers have foisted upon the country. Let him suffer with the rest of us.

cuthean| 7.25.10 @ 12:12PM

go after the children and spouses. Let them live.

NO HATERS HERE!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:38PM

Another "TOLERANT" Fascist Liberal troll.

Go away, loser.

dan gillen| 7.25.10 @ 10:03AM

i am strongly for term limits. living here in the people's republic of taxachusetts i can't vote reid, pelosi, dodd, or all the other libs out. i can't even get john (boat dock cheat) kerry out because of all the left wing loons here

DG11 | 7.25.10 @ 10:03AM

These parasitic bufoons must be voted into oblivion!!! God, what is happening to our Nation?

Yosemeti Sam| 7.25.10 @ 10:04AM

This small man will be remembered as the small man on a leash that he is!

RS| 7.25.10 @ 10:05AM

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world," - Harry Reid

If you consider "success" to be a Ponzi scheme at the point of a gun - which has created generations of dependents and help to drive $13+ trillon in debt - then senator is correct ...

... if you believe otherwise, then this statement should hang around his neck like a millstone this election season

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 11:16AM

SS does not in any way add to the debt.
You can not back up your claim.
Post your proof here that SS increased the debt.You cannot. You cannot because somebody (you?) made that up.
It was Wall Street banksters that buried the economy, not your retired grandparents, so why aren't you angry with them?

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:36PM

More lies from the Astroturfing whore. SS is dead!!

JerryinTampa| 7.25.10 @ 10:07AM

Harry you are a living POS! Here is YOUR public option Harry! If you are to have a chance at legislating such a disaster better get it voted in before 11/2. Harry while you are in your native State spewing your BS you should sign up for Dealer school in the Gaming Industry. Only a fool would play at YOUR table. Again Harry can you say POS?

D.Triebel| 7.25.10 @ 10:23AM

"social security most successful program ever"!?

It's a ponzi scheme! 15% of my income the government loans to itself at 2% interest. We would be so much better off if we put it in stocks, bonds, T-bills.....but no they use it to feed the governments addictive need to spend our money.

DanMingo | 7.25.10 @ 11:18AM

We would be so much better off if we put it in stocks, bonds, T-bills
Those T bills are what back the SS trust fund, so it's good right?

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:35PM

SS is dead and everyone knows it. How much is Axelrod paying you, astroturfing whore?

Lance| 7.25.10 @ 10:36AM

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world,"
Is this jack ass SERIOUS??? No wonder this administration is taking us down the toilet with idiots like this at the helm!! Someone needs to put a bullet in this idiot's last functioning brain cell to make room for someone who can see FACTS for what they are!! What an ass!

DanMingo| 7.25.10 @ 11:21AM

Someone needs to put a bullet in this idiot's last functioning brain cell to make room for someone who can see FACTS for what they are"
Please provide the facts that disprove the claim that SS is the most successful social program in history.
Facts, not what you heard on Hannity or Limbaugh.
Facts

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 7.25.10 @ 2:34PM

Lance makes a good point, Mingo. Sorry.

Michael| 7.25.10 @ 10:37AM

It's not a public "option" when the rules outlaw high deductible plans and FORCE people into the "public option" for other reasons as well.

This, as well as many other new laws rammed through by the liberals, goes much deeper than politics, it is an outright coup of our system of government. The PEOPLE will NOT tolerate it!!

Mikejpss| 7.25.10 @ 11:03AM

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

Glenn Koons | 7.25.10 @ 11:06AM

Harry is a true socialist progressive of the Henry A. Wallace era. Just as Britain is dumping govt. controlled healthcare, of course, liberal Dems want it to bankrupt and control the USA all at the same time. No reform of SS and Medicare , of course, just tax all those good white Pubs. A problem of course is that NE Pubs like Snowe, Brown,Collins think this is a grand idea. The answer is to un-elect every Dem possible on local, state and Congressional elections in Nov. Vote out Dem guvs too. Remember, redistricting is going to take place and no one with a brain wants any progressive Dem to redraw those lines.

Oldefarte| 7.25.10 @ 11:07AM

NO YOU'RE NOT, REIDRAT! You'll be sitting home in Nevada watching Sharon Angle on C-Span after November. As to the SPEAKERQUEEN, she'll lose to Republican Boehner once Republicans take over the House in November. So, as the song states, %%%%%SO LONG, HARRYARS, IT'S BEEN NICE TO KNOW YA%%%%

Spider| 7.25.10 @ 11:21AM

How typical of Leftists to get together and lie to each other. It's all they have left. But come Nov, they'll get a taste of reality, and a pink slip. So long Harry. Soon you'll have to work full-time, rather than just part time, at stealing peoples land. Wake-up sheeple, it's time to flush this toilet bowl that America has become.

hay you all| 7.25.10 @ 11:40AM

Come November I hope all of America does not forget what got us in this shape. It was mainly Democrats but many Republicans helped also. If an incumbent is at fault vote them out. The we need to put in term limits so it does not become a "dead brain society" as we have now - 50 to 60 years in congress!!! Many of these people have no clue as to whats happening in this country. It's time "We the People" took it back before the Chinese call in their notes and we wake up being under "COMIE" rule! Kreschev said he would bury us without a shot!!! How close are we?

MarkJ| 7.25.10 @ 11:51AM

Amazing: Harry Reid has just produced a great gift-wrapped quote for a Sharron Angle campaign ad that will mercilessly beat Fast Harry about the head and shoulders from now until November.

Pwnt| 7.25.10 @ 12:08PM

Search: General Colin Powell what social security is really used for.

Jbaby| 7.25.10 @ 12:15PM

Mr. Reid, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!

LibsAreCommies| 7.25.10 @ 12:42PM

Commie liar Reid should be dragged from office and jailed. Then Pelosi... then Obama...

Flyoverman| 7.25.10 @ 1:22PM

Reid is correct. The public option will be exercised nationwide on November 2. I can see it from my house. The Pain Train is coming Harry.

Jersey Dave| 7.25.10 @ 1:24PM

Libsarecommies - Why call Reid a liar? He is being honest here.

Now, if you want to call him a liar for saying "This War is Lost" about Iraq but saying how wonderful things are there now that Obama is in the Oval Office, there's a point you could make.

(McCain pushed for the surge, Bush finally embraced it, Reid and Obama opposed it the whole way but didn't prevent it when the time for votes came. Today Iraq is much better. Thanks McCain and GWB.)

British health care will now be severely rationed. A US public option could be subject to the same.

yumadj| 7.25.10 @ 1:36PM

Sharon is the Angle....Sarah will be the Hammer!

Christopher| 7.25.10 @ 2:35PM

The only thing Sarah is going to hammer will be the final nail in the coffin of the Republican party.

Do us all a favor and please nominate her.

Interloper| 7.25.10 @ 11:25PM

Yeah sure. If Palin's no threat why do you libtards freak out every time her name is mentioned?

Afraid of a girl? What a weenie dummocrat.

Chinaz| 7.25.10 @ 1:36PM

All politicians in DC or across the country for that matter should be limited to one terms. No more career politicians. Make lobbying illegal and public fund all elections so no private money influences our government. Then maybe these crooks would start working for the people who vote for them!

Bill| 7.25.10 @ 2:19PM

The Pelosi and Reid show (normally referred to as the dog and pony show) continues to be staged each and every day. Good grief. When will America wake up and move onto the next abomonation?

Christopher| 7.25.10 @ 2:33PM

Move the Drudge rock and all the fear and hate comes pouring out.

Healthcare is a human RIGHT, not a privilege for a select few. The time has long since come and past for people to stop having to choose between medicine and food, to have healthcare for all in the richest nation in the world.

Keep feeding your hatred and your fear, teabaggers. You're sealing your fate each and every day as your party runs farther and farther to the right.

BarackMugabe| 7.25.10 @ 4:14PM

Pick a leftist's nose and charges of "hate" and "racism" come tumbling out.

Yes, we hate -- absolutely despise -- what the radical left is doing to this country, against its will.

But which part of the Constitution states that health care is a "right"? Whatever shortcomings the system had COULD have been addressed without tearing apart a system that a huge majority was happy with -- even if they wanted some reforms -- and turning it over to the incompetent, hapless government.

The people didn't -- and DON'T -- want your "reform." And frankly, that's the only thing that matters. But then, when has the will of the people ever mattered to the fascist left?

And last time I checked, it is the radical left's sharp move to the extreme left that the country is rejecting out of hand.

Time to open your eyes, while your finger is deep up your nose.

rbblum| 7.25.10 @ 2:49PM

Harry Reid's mindset might not be a bad thing . . . for, to have the public option would accelerate the need to address America's unsustainable financial path, allowing 'the people' to start anew in refounding the United States of America according to the US Consitution and adhering to sound fiscal & monetary principles.

Adam| 7.25.10 @ 11:26PM

Why don't you do us all a favor and STFU???!!!

Moron.

noneofyourbusiness| 7.25.10 @ 4:33PM

You do a disservice to those of us in here are sane.

You just give the loons on the left evidence for their claims.

Go away.

Cheers!

NovTwo| 7.25.10 @ 3:18PM

Reid has a lot of Union backing. From her comments, Angle doesn't seem to be the brightest lamp out there when it comes to politics, but I think she is honest, whereas Reid is not. We really need to get rid of Reid, but we shall have to wait until November to see.

yiddishlion| 7.25.10 @ 3:23PM

There are going to be a lot of elections like Al Franken's TOTAL frauds. And what will be done about it? Not a damn thing.

MarioG| 7.25.10 @ 3:48PM

Harry Reid's comments reported above prove what a corrupt and despicable human being he is at his core.

dave c | 7.25.10 @ 3:56PM

heres a better option, GET RID OF PELOSI, REID and OBAMA, along with all of CONgress

2010 CENSUS IS ILLEGAL

http://second-amendment.tripod.com

BarackMugabe| 7.25.10 @ 4:07PM

The fascists just don't know when to quit.

RobbieK| 7.25.10 @ 4:28PM

Oh, there won't be a Public Option, Harry! All your criminal buy offs to pass unconstitutional legislation is going to come crashing down on you and the other Marxists in less than 100 days.

Jack| 7.25.10 @ 4:38PM

I find it very odd that the super libs who don't want creationism taught in schools, just evolution taught, want to pass all this anti-Dawinist legislation. What a contradiction! Or, maybe it is just that they want to control us. I bet Orwell wishes he were alive to see this.

Dan| 7.25.10 @ 4:44PM

I spoke with some folks in the medical field in the area of billing (they were Hispanic) I told them about this public option Harry Reid is talking about. They hadn't heard about it and instant fear was on there faces. They said most government payments do not cover the shots/treatments and nothing for the doctor. Thats why many refuse Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Charlotte| 7.25.10 @ 5:02PM

You know - when I see remarks about Social Security being broke (or in Harry's words - not going broke), it angers me. The politicians have STOLEN the money that was to be in those coffers. That was OUR future, our money...we paid for the generation before us and they took the money from a fund that was for SOCIAL SECURITY ONLY and moved it to fund pork projects. So - we paid for it once, we are still working to pay for it again, ....if that were in the private sector - jail time. It's just wrong!

jimbolini| 7.25.10 @ 7:37PM

Bernie M...off is in jail for what the politicians are doing to SS!!!!

doninLA| 7.25.10 @ 5:03PM

Harry Reid and all such "career politicians" must bear the burden of why were are where we are. The real problem is this: even if somehow the Republicans win both houses of Congress (a long shot at best), they have POTUS and thousands of czars and bureaucrats lined up to do Obama's bidding. We cannot vote them out. Even Bush had to wade through 8 years of Clintonites in State and other departments who were more than willing to subvert every move he made. Sad fact is, we cannot vote all those systemic parasites out. If the coming election isn't totally a house-cleaning (including RINOs who went along to get along), then I am afraid we've had it as a nation.

jimbolini| 7.25.10 @ 7:36PM

Be serious! Bush did absolutely shit! Why didn't he veto all the spending and then there is the occupation of Iraq!

Wally| 7.25.10 @ 11:31PM

I'm no apologist for big spending RINO GWB, but he never took over whole industries like MaObowma.

Obama is a Marxist revolutionary who seeks to destroy our Republic. The traitor is close to achieving his goal. Obama and his minions are a true threat to our liberty.

Robert Ehring Grasshopper Jct | 7.25.10 @ 5:23PM

What does this eliteist bum know about public opinion. He and his cronies such as pelosi, Mccain and the rest of the congressional thieves think we are not capeable of thinking for ourselves.
The way they put it: we will do the thinking for you little man beause your to ignorant and we are the chosen ones.

wheninthecourse| 7.25.10 @ 6:12PM

Alex Jones
Ron Paul in 2012

Sam| 7.25.10 @ 11:33PM

It'll never happen, moron. Keep smoking that weed.

doninLA| 7.25.10 @ 6:04PM

Some people need to turn off the caps function. Shouting and screaming in a blog is not going to win friends and influence liberals.
Save the shouting for the real thing - rallies and protests, and if necessary, the barricades ...

doninLA| 7.25.10 @ 6:19PM

How about Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal as a team for 2012 Presidential race? I'd go for that big time!

Andy Ohar| 7.25.10 @ 6:43PM

Best cure is to pass a law that for bids lawyes to run for office, also to forbid them to practice law.
They'er nothing but a bunch of dishonest jerk-offs.

A.N. American| 7.25.10 @ 6:49PM

Scary Harry Reid is a total moron! Almost in the same league as Nancy Peelosee!

When will Americans wake up and see the DAMAGE that Reid and Peelosee and Nobama are doing to this great country!

I can't wait until November and even moreso until 2012 to get rid of these radical communists!!

A. N. American| 7.25.10 @ 6:51PM

Jindal and Rubio and Bachmann and Palin......now THERE are some hopeful bright lights!!

November cannot come soon enough! And Obama and Reid and Peelosee and all the other RADICAL Democrats cannot be GONE soon enough!!!

jimbolini| 7.25.10 @ 7:33PM

Harry Reid you major POS! I hope they bury you next to Dick-less Cheney so we can piss on both of you scumbags at the same time!

Jules| 7.25.10 @ 9:16PM

Cheney is a patriot unlike the traitor Reid.

gary Padgett| 7.25.10 @ 8:04PM

It should be mandated that all government employees be in the public health care option that they so want to shove down everyones throats.
It is absolutely criminal what these politicians have gotten away with. Voting them out is not even commensurate with their crimes against the public.

Craig eliot| 7.25.10 @ 8:12PM

Of course we will have a public option one day, and one day soon ... because everyone has already become so poor amid a corrupt US government that fewer people than ever can AFFORD insurance. Dopes!

dump28usn| 7.25.10 @ 8:16PM

Harry Reid is an evil little man with a twisted outlook on our country. He will certainly not be missed after he loses in November! Good by Harry, don't go away mad, just go away!

Jane Smith| 7.25.10 @ 8:42PM

Reid thinks the public option is a question of "when"?? If the Dems lose in November, then the "when" is during the lame duck session. If the Dems win, then the "when" will come later.....Either way, it's coming....

jamie| 7.25.10 @ 8:47PM

REPEALING HEALTHCARE BEGINS IN NOVEMBER!!

Jubal | 7.25.10 @ 9:16PM

With term limits should come a simple statement: no (as in absolutely zero) retirement benefits of any kind for serving as an elected official. Absolutely none, no matter how long they are in office.

Jubal| 7.25.10 @ 9:19PM

Like on the playground as kids without a teacher around, wars have only one objective: win. We either fight a war to win, or walk away before it starts. And, BTW, it is cheaper to provide every man, woman and child in Afganistan with solar-powered shortwave, or television, or satphones, with computers, than to continue this stupidity. Tyrants hate free communication and education. Tends to ruin their control.

Titainiumman| 7.25.10 @ 9:29PM

Not only are term limits needed every elected representative should be audited upon election and each year they serve.

R. Crawford| 7.25.10 @ 9:30PM

Deceit is the only approach that works with liberals. Their philosophy of governing is the state over the individual. Wealth re-distribution is the ultimate objective of virtually every program.

Thankfully, they've exposed themselves to mainstream america in the last two years and the madness will now stop in November. Just wait and see.

Titainiumman| 7.25.10 @ 9:33PM

When are the republicans going to call for the attorney generals resignation?This racist should have been canned when he dismissed the black panther case.He has shown himself to be just another incompetent Obama psychophant.

Greg Miller| 7.25.10 @ 9:49PM

America is mad, mad, mad because Obama can't fix America now. He was hired to fix it and he was on the way then BP spread oil all over the Gulf. He has made some movement in America towards decent health care. He is trying to get us out of two wars started by them and he is trying to bail us out of a total world depression, caused by them, and to fix the system so that it doesn't happen again.

We are mad because the Government does not work. We keep forgetting that takes a couple of years to fix a broken Government Work Force.
And we are mad at him because he can't create employment other then Government jobs. Folks he can't bring the jobs back, they are gone. Either you demand jobs from the financial sector or you work for the government or go on welfare, there are not a lot of options.
America was created because we wanted something better and we were willing to work fore it. We took over a land that was like Eden and we moved here to better our selves. We moved to America from all over the world because we wanted something better for ourselves and our children. And we worked for it. In the beginning we had great leaders who tried to set up a government that was structured to benefit every citizen of America, and they did a very good job. It is too bad that they did not realize that Capitalism needed to be controlled from the beginning. They did not realize that men would create a world where businesses had the same rights as citizens and were not responsible for their actions as citizens are. The founding fathers did not realize that Capitalism is too addicting to left uncontrolled.
If you want to help fix this problem you can starting telling Capitalism that this is a Democracy. If not you can move to Panama where you can afford to live well with very little money plus they have a good national health care system with very skilled medical people.

Sam| 7.25.10 @ 11:36PM

As if your idiocy wasn't torture enough to read posted once--you had to repeat it.
Gawd, what a hopeless moron--our disastrous Public School System strikes again!

No wonder our country is in such a mess.

Greg Miller| 7.25.10 @ 9:49PM

America is mad, mad, mad because Obama can't fix America now. He was hired to fix it and he was on the way then BP spread oil all over the Gulf. He has made some movement in America towards decent health care. He is trying to get us out of two wars started by them and he is trying to bail us out of a total world depression, caused by them, and to fix the system so that it doesn't happen again.

We are mad because the Government does not work. We keep forgetting that takes a couple of years to fix a broken Government Work Force.
And we are mad at him because he can't create employment other then Government jobs. Folks he can't bring the jobs back, they are gone. Either you demand jobs from the financial sector or you work for the government or go on welfare, there are not a lot of options.
America was created because we wanted something better and we were willing to work fore it. We took over a land that was like Eden and we moved here to better our selves. We moved to America from all over the world because we wanted something better for ourselves and our children. And we worked for it. In the beginning we had great leaders who tried to set up a government that was structured to benefit every citizen of America, and they did a very good job. It is too bad that they did not realize that Capitalism needed to be controlled from the beginning. They did not realize that men would create a world where businesses had the same rights as citizens and were not responsible for their actions as citizens are. The founding fathers did not realize that Capitalism is too addicting to left uncontrolled.
If you want to help fix this problem you can starting telling Capitalism that this is a Democracy. If not you can move to Panama where you can afford to live well with very little money plus they have a good national health care system with very skilled medical people.

Diane Martin| 7.25.10 @ 11:07PM

Nancy...I have given up on trying to understand what she tries to communicate...I watch Nancy's hands for sheer entrtainment - her hands never stop. Nancy Hands. Nancy Magic hands. Nancy Silly Hands. Nancy Handy Hands. Nancy Busy Hands.

Missy| 7.25.10 @ 11:38PM

Don't bother trying to analyze Pelosi, Diane; Nanzi is like Oakland--there's no there..there.

John Vickers| 7.25.10 @ 11:57PM

Despite what you hear about Canada's healthcare system through the US media, over 80% of Canadians would rather have our system vs. the American system.
To think America has more people without health care than there are Canadians.
Then again, how is America to know much of anything when factual news is obsured by special interests.
If Americans do want their country back, they should do what Canadians did and limit corporate contributions to federal parties to $5,000.00. If you sell out to money, you will always be sold out.

Osamas Pajamas| 7.26.10 @ 12:11AM

Wrong, sport. If "over 80% of Canadians would rather have the Canadian medical system rather than the American medical system, that's the Stocholm Syndrone --- they're brains have been pizzed on for so long that they don't know which end is up. And where did you get that "over 80%" figure --- a random sample of socialists? Now, I represent what YOU would call "a special interest" --- the privtaley-employed taxpayers of America. They are not eager to let a bunch of government bloodsxckers hijack their medical insurance in order "Spread Da Wealf Aroun!" in OhBummer's ignorant words. And limiting corporate political contributions for any reason is a violation of constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech, the lies of the Democrats notwithstanding. In short, you are pixxig America's soup with your bad ideas. Get out. Go die in your stupid, government-run medical system.

John Vickers| 7.26.10 @ 12:40AM

Your hate is typical of what we see up from south of our border. Angry and uneducated.
Try and comprehend this:
a) The average Canadian lives three years longer than in your great America due to universal access to health care.
b) We have provinces with lower tax rates than many US states.
c) Minimum wage is $10 and we have a lower national unemployment rate
d) We have social programs like your media aid hwoever we are not a socialist state. Then again, does your average American even know what socialism is? I think not!

Patriot| 7.26.10 @ 1:37AM

Hate? doesn't take much to get your pretty pink panties in a pinch, does it, little weenie?

You inserted your nose in a conversation that is none of your business, so don't whine and complain when you get it tweaked!

You Canadians are predictably tedious; smug, arrogant and thin-skinned. We don't care what you think!

Sam Adams| 7.26.10 @ 12:05AM

Reid says we're gonna "have a public option" [socialized medicine]. I have a better idea. Let's get the Sons of Liberty together with a list of names and a bunch of rope, and have a few lynchings. The only good socialist is a dead one.

Patriot| 7.26.10 @ 12:24AM

Go away, troll. Your Fascist Liberal hate is not welcome here.

We are NOT the aggressors--you are!!

Osamas Pajamas| 7.26.10 @ 12:13AM

Wrong, sport. If "over 80% of Canadians would rather have the Canadian medical system rather than the American medical system, that's the Stockholm Syndrone --- their brains have been pizzed on for so long that they don't know which end is up. And where did you get that "over 80%" figure --- a random sample of socialists? Now, I represent what YOU would call "a special interest" --- the privately-employed taxpayers of America. They are not eager to let a bunch of government bloodsxckers hijack their medical insurance in order "Spread Da Wealf Aroun!" in OhBummer's ignorant words. And limiting corporate political contributions for any reason is a violation of constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech, the lies of the Democrats notwithstanding. In short, you are pixxing in America's soup with your bad ideas. Get out. Go die in your stupid, government-run medical system.

Patriot| 7.26.10 @ 12:27AM

Canadians die of cancer at a much greater rate because their "wonderful" socialized medicine system rations expensive drugs that cure certain cancers. "DEATH PANELS" if you will.

Thanks, but NO THANKS!!

Patriot| 7.26.10 @ 1:31AM

Triple posts? What a loser.

John Vickers| 7.26.10 @ 12:54AM

Is that why we live three years longer than Americans? The only death panel on the continent of North America is the American policy of not providing health care to a population of people greater than that all of Canada!

Patriot| 7.26.10 @ 1:30AM

No you don't--your figures are skewed because we try to save the sickest people and tiniest babies among us.

You ration medical care and allow those who are the sickest to die or don't even bother fighting for the tiniest preemies like we do. Your wait times and cancer death rates are much higher than ours, too.

Every American gets medical care if needed--it's already the law; usually at the Emergency Room.
Our system is not perfect, but neither is yours, and most Americans abhor the intrusive Nanny State--unlike you State-dependent Canadians.

Besides, we could help more Americans get medical coverage without destroying the great medical care that 80% of Americans already enjoy. ObamaCare is a Fascist Liberal power grab, pure and simple. The traitorous democrats don't give a damn about the American people--it's all about power and control with them.
Obama is ruling, not governing, against the will of the American people, and he and his treacherous party will pay a steep price for their deceitful arrogance.

The Government just makes things worse--where will you go for good medical care when our health care system stinks, too?

Harry Weed| 7.26.10 @ 12:25AM

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world," -H. Reid

This Person is not only STILL in the senate, but majority leader. I would vote for a goat before I would vote for this suspicious character.
Yes, I am a Nevada resident and NOT proud when I hear his name - especially in context to representation.

ringmaster76120| 7.26.10 @ 1:45AM

Public to Harry Reid; If we have a "public option", we are also going to have a public "political lynching". If you would only listen, you could hear the lynch mob already willing and eager now.

ZerObama| 7.26.10 @ 1:58AM

Knock off the hate, fascist liberal troll ringmaster. Violence ALWAYS comes from YOUR side.

Ruler4You| 7.26.10 @ 1:54AM

Who didn't know this was going to happen?

Anonymous| 7.26.10 @ 6:56AM

Is Harry Reid insane?? If he wants his "public option", he better hurry up and force it through in 3 months. Come November, this fascist regime will come tumbling down.

Steven the patriot| 7.26.10 @ 7:10AM

Hey harry, take your public option and shove it where the sun don't shine. You are a pinko/comunist and soon to be unemployed along with the other 18% of Nevada. 2010 & 2012 we take out country back from you facist/communist/progressives/anti-American democraps.

Cabllero361| 7.26.10 @ 7:37AM

Public, fixed price, rationed systems cannot survive alongside truly private alternatives. This has proven to be true in other economic sectors where there is public ownership or even a few private actors with a state sanctioned monopoly (e.g. utilities). Stop the public option!

Caballero361| 7.26.10 @ 7:39AM

In other words, since the public option cannot co-exist with private alternatives, they will inexorably kill off the private alternatives in order to keep the public system, not as an option, but as the only available system.

JCIll| 7.26.10 @ 8:06AM

How ironic that in the same week that Britain figures out that public health doesn't work, Dirty Harry decides that it is right for the US. What a dork!

skyehawk| 7.26.10 @ 8:27AM

Can anyone imagine Harry Reid giving the motivational speech to our troops going into battle ??He start out by saying "Men this War is LOST !" This piece of useless human debris , that evolved out of the afterbirth of a camel that was gang raped by a group of taliban communists /facists ..needs to quit trashing our troops by calling them "losers" and move on with his pathetic life ..in some remote prison..

skyehawk| 7.26.10 @ 8:45AM

Wondering if Dirty Harry realizes that "public option " means , The public gets to deal with him and his treasonable activities during his tenure as senator , including his sketchy land deals , giving his family union and gov. jobs , to the detriment of regular folks ..This blight needs to be removed from Nevada......

Margaret| 7.26.10 @ 9:39AM

Yes, Reid is correct. We WILL have a public option. It will come in November when all the liberals are thrown out of office and Obamacare is nullified! Bye, bye libs!!

Eagle35| 7.26.10 @ 9:49AM

Obama continues to lie. No tax increases for middle class. My company just informed me of the following. No over the counter drugs can be claimed on my Medical Reimbursement Account. My Medical Reimbursement Account is now limited to $2500 annually instead of current $5000. That is a $700 tax increas just for the new limit. To that add your tax percentage to all the over the counter drugs you buy. Another tax increase. On top of that no Medical Accounts. Reid and Obama-CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.... WHAT A CROCK.

Lancer| 7.26.10 @ 11:59AM

Folks, I am sad to say that Harry Reid will win in November. Angle is running a terrible campaign and the seasoned politician, Dingy Harry, will take advantage of her campaign incompetence.
Additionally, I don't want to sound wacky, but I believe we are in the midst of End Times and the bizarre, upside down things we are witnessing in this country are not arbitrary.
It will get worse, much worse!

Wally| 7.29.10 @ 3:59AM

No one ever said we were going to get out of this alive, Lancer.

James William | 8.21.10 @ 6:45AM

Obama, now what to say about him... He is no different from Bush, rather worst ever to hold the post. Amnesty, increasing tax, no new steps for creating jobs and what else he has done nothing except delivering some great speeches which he is really good at...

Magiesuemalone| 9.14.10 @ 7:02PM

I have voted for years, and have always voted Republican. I'm just wondering if we have a strong Republican canidate that will run for president. I was all for Ron Paul, till I read where he approves having the mosque built near ground zero. Whats up with that?

Louis Vttion handbags | 12.9.10 @ 2:19AM

Would you be so understanding if two or three armed KKK members treated black voters in the same threatening way? Hmmmmm?

And if not, why not, Sue? Careful, your ugly liberal bigotry toward white folks is showing. Shame on you, hypocrite.

timerland boots | 12.21.10 @ 7:09PM

Obama, now what to say about him... He is no different from Bush, rather worst ever to hold the post. Amnesty, increasing tax, no new steps for creating jobs and what else he has done nothing except delivering some great speeches which he is really good at...

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